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Re: Avast home vs CIS (Comodo Internet Security)
« Reply #180 on: March 03, 2009, 07:09:57 PM »
I read all comments about CIS and it is difficult to compare it to Avast. Avast is a mature product and CIS is very young, sill improveing. One I can not agree, CIS inst't weak! Anyone who says that is mistaken or blind. CIS has still some bugs, there are problems with false positives in heuristics and  database have to be increased but in the future it can be very powerful antivirus with advanced heuristics and proactive defence.. for free. I'm looking forward to see Avast 5 and CAVS 4, I think they can be one of the best.

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Re: Avast home vs CIS (Comodo Internet Security)
« Reply #181 on: March 03, 2009, 07:46:29 PM »
when avast 5 will be out its will still own so hard comodo and other anti virus lol
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Re: Avast home vs CIS (Comodo Internet Security)
« Reply #182 on: March 03, 2009, 07:54:49 PM »
Hi gun,

That is why I have combined avast with Comodo BoClean 4.27. You can get it here:
http://www.comodo.com/boclean/boclean.html
Works like a charm together, together with RUBotted,

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Re: Avast home vs CIS (Comodo Internet Security)
« Reply #183 on: March 03, 2009, 11:20:12 PM »
Hi gun,

That is why I have combined avast with Comodo BoClean 4.27. You can get it here:
http://www.comodo.com/boclean/boclean.html
Works like a charm together, together with RUBotted,

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Too bad it would be discontinued and be included with the CIS suite.

http://forums.comodo.com/comodo_boclean_antimalware/boclean_to_be_discontinued-t34653.0.html

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Re: Avast home vs CIS (Comodo Internet Security)
« Reply #184 on: March 03, 2009, 11:35:49 PM »
Hi bluestring,

If that is going to materialize, and it appears so from what you are reporting, what alternative to combine with avast do we have here? I have SAS and MBAM as non-residential scanners, but I will find Comodo BoClean hard to replace. Do you have a suggestion? The proggie had quite some detection-array for trojans...it did not detect much because I am SafeHex, but anyways will miss it running silently in the background,

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Re: Avast home vs CIS (Comodo Internet Security)
« Reply #185 on: March 03, 2009, 11:49:27 PM »
Well avast 5 would be good :P
It is meant to be getting its own behavioural module.
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Re: Avast home vs CIS (Comodo Internet Security)
« Reply #186 on: March 04, 2009, 12:46:31 AM »
I read all comments about CIS and it is difficult to compare it to Avast. Avast is a mature product and CIS is very young, sill improveing. One I can not agree, CIS inst't weak! Anyone who says that is mistaken or blind. CIS has still some bugs, there are problems with false positives in heuristics and  database have to be increased but in the future it can be very powerful antivirus with advanced heuristics and proactive defence.. for free. I'm looking forward to see Avast 5 and CAVS 4, I think they can be one of the best.


Will it be free? Or is everyone being used as extended beta testers,prior to going shareware?
Considering  statements from Abdulhayoglu,
that BOClean would be available for stand-alone,even after its incorporation into CIS, I am not sure how much store can be put in the "free forever" rhetoric from the same guy.
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Re: Avast home vs CIS (Comodo Internet Security)
« Reply #187 on: March 04, 2009, 10:25:28 AM »
I read all comments about CIS and it is difficult to compare it to Avast. Avast is a mature product and CIS is very young, sill improveing. One I can not agree, CIS inst't weak! Anyone who says that is mistaken or blind. CIS has still some bugs, there are problems with false positives in heuristics and  database have to be increased but in the future it can be very powerful antivirus with advanced heuristics and proactive defence.. for free. I'm looking forward to see Avast 5 and CAVS 4, I think they can be one of the best.


Will it be free? Or is everyone being used as extended beta testers,prior to going shareware?
Considering  statements from Abdulhayoglu,
that BOClean would be available for stand-alone,even after its incorporation into CIS, I am not sure how much store can be put in the "free forever" rhetoric from the same guy.
Well, changing plans about software and changing licence are different matters. I think Comodo choose freeware path knowingly and if they break their own words it will be suicide for company, and that's why it is not going to happen.

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Re: Avast home vs CIS (Comodo Internet Security)
« Reply #188 on: March 06, 2009, 02:40:41 PM »
I use CIS on on machine and avast with SRP (software restriction policy) on another. Avast cannot (in its present state) guard against 0-day stuff while CIS D+ can. On the other hand Comodo's anti-virus is to Avast a fist is to a gun.

But, CIS is improving like mad.. When BoClean added it'll be really good. CIS's D+ is a monster.

I think Avast should take it up a notch by introducing a Behavioural Blocker or Protection Guard for c:\windows* and/or startup registry keys (i put this in the wishlist too). This would make Avast directly comparable and competable. But as it stands CIS is awesome/the best, if a user knows what he's doing, whilst avast is awesome/the best, if they dont. I make my sis and girlfriends use avast... whilst i use cis myself.   ;D

Firewall.. etc. shouldnt be a priority IMO. thats just gimmicks.XP/Vista firewall is good enough and besides whatever firewall you make it'll leak in some form or another. why get bad publicity.

Get the Anti-Virus with Protection for 'Core' files/registry and you're through to the top.....



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Re: Avast home vs CIS (Comodo Internet Security)
« Reply #189 on: March 06, 2009, 03:31:37 PM »
Then your hopes for avast to have a behavioural module will be realised in avast version 5.

However, avast 4.8 also uses algorithmic and generic signatures so it isn't entirely correct that it can't protect against 0 day attacks, but it can certainly use some improvement in that area. It also uses heuristics in the anti-rootkit scan.
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Re: Avast home vs CIS (Comodo Internet Security)
« Reply #190 on: March 06, 2009, 05:49:18 PM »
Thanks. i am eagerly looking forward to avast 5...  8)

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Re: Avast home vs CIS (Comodo Internet Security)
« Reply #191 on: March 06, 2009, 05:58:47 PM »
Defense+ is terribly overrated, requires experienced user behind it and it plain simply failed to prevent Virut infection. Not to mention it's annoying and badly designed.
While avast! detected each and every Vitro sample withouth all the crap around it. So much for avast! cannot prevent 0-day stuff because it lacks heuristics checkbox...

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Re: Avast home vs CIS (Comodo Internet Security)
« Reply #192 on: March 06, 2009, 06:45:44 PM »
Defense+ is terribly overrated, requires experienced user behind it and it plain simply failed to prevent Virut infection. Not to mention it's annoying and badly designed.
While avast! detected each and every Vitro sample withouth all the crap around it. So much for avast! cannot prevent 0-day stuff because it lacks heuristics checkbox...
you are right, agreed. personally I don't like it to answer 100-200 question of defend plus because maybe (just Maybe!) one of them be related to a malware... it need to completely new design and a preset database :)
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Re: Avast home vs CIS (Comodo Internet Security)
« Reply #193 on: March 06, 2009, 07:12:20 PM »
Defense+ is terribly overrated
I can not agree 100%,  but of course D+ isn't perfect and needs a lot of improvement. I can say that in ver 3.8 D+ works much better than in previous versions of CIS, I had maybe 1 or 2 alerts, nothing more! I wish ver 3.9 D+ to be quiet as a mouse :-X. But if someone thinks that D+ is piece of c.. can simply deactivate it.

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Re: Avast home vs CIS (Comodo Internet Security)
« Reply #194 on: March 06, 2009, 10:20:14 PM »
Well, Melih and bunch of die hard followers (sorry but there always has to be a limit to something, i've come to that conclusion even here on avast! forums) advertise Defense+ as best thing after sliced bread. But after thorough testing i found out it's nothing special, it's buggy and hard to operate.
If i were them, i'd strip Defense+ out of CIS all together when they implement CIMA heuristics. If they'll be as good as those online, they don't need this broken Defense+...

 

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