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Re: Does Avast 5 detect ZeuS.Zbot.aoaq banking trojan virus
« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2010, 10:40:12 PM »
So, after all that, the long and the short of it is that Avast! does not detect Zeus !  Why could someone not have said that in the first place, and it would have saved all this lengthy chat ?

All I wanted to know when I first asked the original question "Does Avast! detect ZeuS.Zbot.aoaq banking trojan virus" was does Avast! detect Zeus ?

How much easier it would have been just to say "No", instead of which I got a long winded technical dissertation which I did not need !  I now know that Avast! does not detect Zeus, that Zone Alarm's claims are therefore not unreasonable, and that Zone Alarm's extra security products may be worth considering if they can actually do the job that Avast! cannot.  As Left123 evidently concludes "If the exploit is not detected before it is executed, by the time the system meltdown begins to show symptoms it is probably already too late."
Thanks nevertheless at last. ::) ::)

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Re: Does Avast 5 detect ZeuS.Zbot.aoaq banking trojan virus
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2010, 10:50:29 PM »
Do you have Zone alarm by any chance - as they have started a new scareware advertising programme - there is no such animal

http://forums.zonealarm.com/showthread.php?t=75328

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Re: Does Avast 5 detect ZeuS.Zbot.aoaq banking trojan virus
« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2010, 11:24:25 PM »
Do you have Zone alarm by any chance - as they have started a new scareware advertising programme - there is no such animal

http://forums.zonealarm.com/showthread.php?t=75328

i hope this crap av will be deleted from the "map",it's lame what they do,THEY FORCE YOU WITH THEIR OWN WAY TO PURCHASE THEIR PRODUCT JUST TO HAVE PROTECTION  AGAINST PROBABLY THE WORST VIRUS EVER,it would be free!
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Re: Does Avast 5 detect ZeuS.Zbot.aoaq banking trojan virus
« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2010, 12:24:30 AM »
Thank you Essexboy for sharing the za "scareware" information again.  I posted something similar in the original thread on the 4.0 / 5.0 page more than 12 hours ago with these and other users of za, but people were too emotional at the time and directed their anger at me instead.  I hope things have settled down at this point after reading the threads and educating themselves about this this situation.  Thank you.  :)

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Re: Does Avast 5 detect ZeuS.Zbot.aoaq banking trojan virus
« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2010, 01:42:59 AM »
people were too emotional at the time and directed their anger at me instead. 
Nobody directed their anger at anyone.  I could not have been more diplomatic in my original question but you just would not answer the question that several other people also politely asked.  Instead, you kept dancing round the issue, which made everyone suspicious.  It has now been answered, and it is evident that Avast! unfortunately does not detect Zeus.  So please do not blame other people.  Thanks.

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Re: Does Avast 5 detect ZeuS.Zbot.aoaq banking trojan virus
« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2010, 01:59:22 AM »
@ shermans
As you are a Newbie you should take advice from the avast Evangelists.

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■ avast! antivirus Home Edition
■ Microsoft Security Essentials
http://www.malwarehelp.org/find-and-remove-zeus-zbot-banking-trojan-2009.html


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Re: Does Avast 5 detect ZeuS.Zbot.aoaq banking trojan virus
« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2010, 02:02:22 AM »
people were too emotional at the time and directed their anger at me instead. 
Nobody directed their anger at anyone.  I could not have been more diplomatic in my original question but you just would not answer the question that several other people also politely asked.  Instead, you kept dancing round the issue, which made everyone suspicious.  It has now been answered, and it is evident that Avast! unfortunately does not detect Zeus.  So please do not blame other people.  Thanks.

It isn't quite so simple as that.

Avast has many different zbot/Zeus detections, the problem is that no one can equate what ZA are calling this ZeuS.Zbot.aoaq as there is no standard naming convention. So it could have many different aliases across all of the different AVs.

Trying to find what avast might be calling this (or any other AV for that matter) would require a sample to be sent to virus total with 43 different scanners and first see if avast and other AVs are detecting it and what other aliases are given.
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Re: Does Avast 5 detect ZeuS.Zbot.aoaq banking trojan virus
« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2010, 02:55:33 AM »
Hey guys

Done some looking up on this virus it is a bad one alright
it's hard to detect.
I have a few security apps that I scan my PC with the more the better

Avast 5
ThreatFire
SUPERAntiSpyware Free Edition
A-squared or the new one Anti-malware free
Malewarebytes Anti-Malware

The way I look at it if one does not detect something bad maybe one of the other security apps I have might.

I also have KeyScrambler free for firefox it encrypts your keystrokes deep in the kernel so it defeats known and unknown keyloggers by giving them "scrambled," logs!!!

Here is the link for anyone that would feel a little bit safer have there keystrokes encrypted.

KeyScrambler free http://www.qfxsoftware.com/index.html

Lets hope Avast can do something about this.

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Re: Does Avast 5 detect ZeuS.Zbot.aoaq banking trojan virus
« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2010, 03:39:51 AM »
The one thing that I don't see mentioned in your list is a a hard drive imaging application, if all else fails you have to have a fall back and system restore simply isn't up to the task.

Yesterday whilst doing a little testing I trashed my system, wouldn't reboot missing hal.dll and no doubt lots of other stuff but without hal.dll you can't get in. I broke out my Drive Imaging application Boot CD and fired it up, 30 minutes later I'm sitting working at my system again. I do a weekly image back-up of my primary hard disk partitions (and the last one being 3 days before) and I do daily (of more frequently) back-ups of volatile files, like emails, bookmarks, documents, etc.

To cut a long story short my loss was negligible and 30 minutes of time. I bought this software many years ago, it still works great on my XP Pro system and has more than paid for itself over the years.

If you don't have a back-up and recovery strategy, you could be in a world of hurt.
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Re: Does Avast 5 detect ZeuS.Zbot.aoaq banking trojan virus
« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2010, 04:14:46 AM »
Just a quick suggestion to anyone who may be concerned about a possible infection (and I don't intend for this to spiral into a Windows vs. Mac vs. Linux argument  ;D )....

You can download and use a live CD / USB key version of Ubuntu.  You can even set it up so that it's NOT persistent (i.e. it won't save any changes on logout) and that way you can always be assured that you'll always have a "clean" OS to do your banking or any other "critical" things.

Just my two cents....
« Last Edit: September 18, 2010, 04:20:55 AM by dulait »

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Re: Does Avast 5 detect ZeuS.Zbot.aoaq banking trojan virus
« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2010, 08:47:11 AM »
So not being infected is the main concern then? Hope it's easier to detect that...thing.

Instead, you kept dancing round the issue, which made everyone suspicious.

LOL, dramatic. Calm! ;D

Avast! actually got Zeus in it's definitions. The thing is that this virus keep changing form.

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Re: Does Avast 5 detect ZeuS.Zbot.aoaq banking trojan virus
« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2010, 09:16:56 AM »
quote from Shermans
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It has now been answered, and it is evident that Avast! unfortunately does not detect Zeus.
How  do you know ? what version is that


ZeuS and Its Continuing Drive Towards Stealing Online Data
http://threatinfo.trendmicro.com/vinfo/web_attacks/ZeuS_and_its_Continuing_Drive_Towards_Stealing_Online_Data.html

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Since 2007, Trend Micro has been monitoring the ZBOT family. The number of ZBOT detections has substantially grown over the years. To date, Trend Micro has seen over 2,000 ZBOT detections and the numbers continue to rise.


Time to Revisit Zeus Almighty
http://blog.threatexpert.com/2009_09_01_archive.html

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One way or another, the wave of new Zeus/Zbot samples being distributed every day is alarming. It's kind of an "attack of the clones" when multiple modifications of the bot are being produced in-the-wild, packed and encrypted on top with all sorts of packers, including modified, hacked, or private packer builds. Before being released, every newly generated and protected bot is uploaded into popular multi-AV scanner services to make sure it is not detected by any antivirus vendor. Hence, quite a bit of a problem in terms of its distribution scale.

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Re: Does Avast 5 detect ZeuS.Zbot.aoaq banking trojan virus
« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2010, 09:25:59 AM »
why do you keep posting av's to remove zeus?1-2 days is enough to steal your "whole life" ^^,format just to make sure that this piece of destruction has rly gone ;D
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Re: Does Avast 5 detect ZeuS.Zbot.aoaq banking trojan virus
« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2010, 11:43:40 AM »
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why do you keep posting av's to remove zeus?
and  what AV have i posted to remove Zeus   ???



most people would understand that i am posting ZEUS INFO that just happens to be on Trend Micro`s web
but you did not read it...did you...
« Last Edit: September 18, 2010, 06:03:19 PM by Pondus »

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Re: Does Avast 5 detect ZeuS.Zbot.aoaq banking trojan virus
« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2010, 01:33:14 PM »
I now know that Avast! does not detect Zeus, that Zone Alarm's claims are therefore not unreasonable, and that Zone Alarm's extra security products may be worth considering if they can actually do the job that Avast! cannot.

Wait, what? You believe some dumb scammy popup from some weird firewall? Now this is funny.

oh, and zonealarm SUCKS if they need stupid popups with fake warnings to make people buy their products.