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New browser security test
« on: December 14, 2011, 12:29:23 AM »
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/new-study-claims-that-chrome-is-the-most-secure-browser/9839?tag=nl.e539

The testing was commissioned by Google so keep that in mind. It shows IE9 as having the fewest vulnerabilities however. Firefox fails miserably.

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Re: New browser security test
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2011, 12:49:01 AM »
No matter, I'll still continue to use FireFox as a happy user. :)


Google might of picked those things to test in because they knew that their browser supported most of it. ::)
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Re: New browser security test
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2011, 12:59:02 AM »
No matter, I'll still continue to use FireFox as a happy user. :)


Google might of picked those things to test in because they knew that their browser supported most of it. ::)
I have no doubt of that.

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Re: New browser security test
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2011, 05:54:23 AM »
That info certainly conflicts with the information we've been discussing on the malwarebytes forum where the tests show Google Chrome as being the least secure http://forums.malwarebytes.org/index.php?showtopic=99893

Test your browser here http://www.yourbrowsermatters.com/#/home
« Last Edit: December 14, 2011, 05:59:39 AM by craigb »

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Re: New browser security test
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2011, 06:22:26 AM »
well i left IE and firefox long ago and shifted to chrome  ;D

IE and firefox are totally unstable in themselves i had problems with both...u can search for my posts u will see my probem with IE pss..thanks again craigh for solving that problem  :)

Firefox-well i uninstalled it long ago on my old pc this laptop is running with IE and chrome...IE is just a backup chrome is the boss  ;D
« Last Edit: December 14, 2011, 06:31:20 AM by true indian »

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Re: New browser security test
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2011, 06:57:29 AM »
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/new-study-claims-that-chrome-is-the-most-secure-browser/9839?tag=nl.e539

The testing was commissioned by Google so keep that in mind. It shows IE9 as having the fewest vulnerabilities however. Firefox fails miserably.

Counting patched vulnerabilities is meaningless when it comes to assessing security- as the report actually points out.

ZDNet is all about sensational journalism- no wonder they didn't put the graphic up without this caveat- and any claim that "Firefox is less secure" or "IE is more secure" is of course lapped up by people with an ideological axe to grind.

Go and read the actual report your story links to for the full facts.



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Re: New browser security test
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2011, 07:05:56 AM »
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Given all this information, we can conclude that the browsers are different. Development
methodologies, corporate structure and patch release infrastructure all play a role in making dissimilar
graphs. However, none of these pieces of information can be used to draw a security related conclusion.

Accuvant Labs report.

Firefox fails miserably.

Amazing how people can see what they want to see in a report like this. Strange how some people have an ideological problem with Firefox.

http://dontsurfinthenude.blogspot.com/2011/07/safest-web-browser.html


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Re: New browser security test
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2011, 08:16:30 AM »
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/new-study-claims-that-chrome-is-the-most-secure-browser/9839?tag=nl.e539

The testing was commissioned by Google so keep that in mind. It shows IE9 as having the fewest vulnerabilities however. Firefox fails miserably.

Counting patched vulnerabilities is meaningless when it comes to assessing security- as the report actually points out.

ZDNet is all about sensational journalism- no wonder they didn't put the graphic up without this caveat- and any claim that "Firefox is less secure" or "IE is more secure" is of course lapped up by people with an ideological axe to grind.

Go and read the actual report your story links to for the full facts.




According to the study, which I clearly said may be biased, Firefox does fail (in the particular study) compared to the other two. Just reading what they posted leaves no other conclusion. I agree that the number of vulnerabilities doesn't matter much but I just pointed that out to all the IE bashers who always say it has the most. It may have in the past, but not any more. I did read some of the full report and it pretty much backs up the summary given at ZDnet. I didn't have the time, (or the desire) to read all 140 pages though.

If you use Chrome and read the release notes for all the new versions, you will see many vulnerabilities being patched. Many more than for IE and a lot are rated as critical. I don't use FF so can't say about that one. They also used old versions of Chrome and a boatload of things have been patched since then in that browser. We're now on 16 and they were testing 12 and 13.

I like Chrome on my XP machine because it is a lot faster than IE8 but on this one, Win7, and the Vista machine, we use IE9 and are totally satisfied.
« Last Edit: December 14, 2011, 08:32:05 AM by Dch48 »

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Re: New browser security test
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2011, 10:10:44 AM »

According to the study, which I clearly said may be biased, Firefox does fail (in the particular study) compared to the other two. Just reading what they posted leaves no other conclusion.

That you obviously haven't done, because it states:

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Given all this information, we can conclude that the browsers are different. Development methodologies, corporate structure and patch release infrastructure all play a role in making dissimilar graphs. However, none of these pieces of information can be used to draw a security related conclusion.
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Re: New browser security test
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2011, 10:14:40 AM »
I didn't have the time, (or the desire) to read all 140 pages though.

That says it all.

I did read some of the full report and it pretty much backs up the summary given at ZDnet.

No it doesn't. It flat out says that the summary at ZDNet should not be drawn from their study.
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Re: New browser security test
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2011, 10:32:11 AM »
All I can say is two words only it completely B**L S**T, when Firefox release the next version soon say v9.0 or v10.0 maybe and it will become a secure browser very much like Chrome their no proof at moment until we see the version and we can judge for ourselves ;)
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Re: New browser security test
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2011, 01:46:32 PM »
It is also by Accuvant
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Accuvant is the only research driven information security partner delivering alignment between IT security and business objectives, clarity to complex security challenges and confidence in enterprise security decisions.
http://www.accuvant.com/about-us

Get the reports:
Supporting Tools + Data
http://www.accuvant.com/capability/accuvant-labs/security-research/browser-security-comparison-quantitative-approach

I agree with Dch48

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Re: New browser security test
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2011, 02:03:29 PM »
Test your browser here http://www.yourbrowsermatters.com/#/home
I scored 4 out of 4 with IE9 64bit and 32bit.  :)

I do use SpywareBlaster as well.

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Re: New browser security test
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2011, 03:09:30 PM »
The computer I'm on right now uses IE 10. (Windows 8) But I'm using Chrome 16.
The only reason I'm not using FF is because of the problem with add-ons not working when new
versions come out.
I never have that with Chrome.
We are still talking about a browser and we all have favorites.
The article itself sounds like a political statement and not exactly based on
actual facts but simply on something that grabs attention even if it's not exactly
the truth.
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Re: New browser security test
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2011, 03:44:00 PM »
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/new-study-claims-that-chrome-is-the-most-secure-browser/9839?tag=nl.e539

The testing was commissioned by Google so keep that in mind. It shows IE9 as having the fewest vulnerabilities however. Firefox fails miserably.

There is still hope for Firefox. I hope they don't end up like Netscape.

Version 9, 10 and 11 looks promising.
« Last Edit: December 14, 2011, 03:45:44 PM by Chris Thomas »