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Consumer Products => Avast Free Antivirus / Premium Security (legacy Pro Antivirus, Internet Security, Premier) => Topic started by: danny96 on February 11, 2011, 04:20:58 PM
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I noted that microsoft windows updater offers me to download microsoft security essentials. I cannot download It, right? They cannot be both installed with avast I think. So should I have to ignore this update?
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i've noticed the same thing, im still offered MSE even though i have Avast installed. :-\ i think its best to ignore that optional update personally
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You can actually choose to hide it if you like, then you will not be bothered everytime you update, right click on it and choose hide.
And if you ever want to download it just go to hidden update's and unhide :)
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This means that Security Center isn't detecting avast! as installed. You can ignore this. It's a optional update.
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I strongly suggest you do not install MSE. :)
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I noted that microsoft windows updater offers me to download microsoft security essentials. I cannot download It, right? They cannot be both installed with avast I think. So should I have to ignore this update?
Are you sure it is MSE, as I haven't been offered that on either my XP Pro or win7 windows updates.
You get offered the usual monthly Microsoft Security Tool (MST) that just does a scan, which I decline every month and because it is a monthly issue, regardless of if you elect to hide it, next months is different so you get offered it again and again and a(bl**dy)gain.
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I noted that microsoft windows updater offers me to download microsoft security essentials. I cannot download It, right? They cannot be both installed with avast I think. So should I have to ignore this update?
Are you sure it is MSE, as I haven't been offered that on either my XP Pro or win7 windows updates.
You get offered the usual monthly Microsoft Security Tool (MST) that just does a scan, which I decline every month and because it is a monthly issue, regardless of if you elect to hide it, next months is different so you get offered it again and again and a(bl**dy)gain.
On both of my Windows 7 HP x64 computers I have been offered MSE.
I accepted the offer on one of the computers.
I removed it less than a day after installing it.
I strongly recommend against installing it.
MST is not an optional update in Windows 7 HP X64.
It is part of MSFT regular monthly security updates
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I think MS have a brass neck offering MSE a resident AV when you already have one as in the OP and first respondents case.
I know MST isn't an optional update, it gets palmed off as a security update which you have to decline every sod*ing month. This again is I feel a bit of a cheek when MS knows you have anti-virus and any anti-spyware installed via the Windows Security/Action Center.
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I don't like MSE. It's bad antivirus. Avast is 1000x better than MSE. In detection, in features and in all other ways... And I personally think that the MSE appeared in Windows updates because my system wasn't detect Avast 6 (maybe?). Anyway I will not install any stupid mse.
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MSE had a poor reception when first released, but the reviews I've seen all agree that it's a lot better now and strongly recommended. However, Avast continues to be approved as well so it's down to personal choice.
I've recently removed Avast and Spyware Doctor from one machine and replaced them with MSE and Malwarebytes, while keeping them both on my other machine. I'll be interested to see how they all perform!
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I think MS have a brass neck offering MSE a resident AV when you already have one as in the OP and first respondents case.
I know MST isn't an optional update, it gets palmed off as a security update which you have to decline every sod*ing month. This again is I feel a bit of a cheek when MS knows you have anti-virus and any anti-spyware installed via the Windows Security/Action Center.
I believe MST scans your computer, for exactly what I don't know :) when it is downloaded as part of the monthly updates. I have never seen it identify anything bad. I know when I had XP I downloaded MST monthly when it updated and saved it to my desktop. I would then run it and it would scan. Again it never indicated that it found anything or that I had any problems with my system.
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It as far as I'm aware also gathers data, how do you think Microsoft get all that data on infected systems, etc.
But again if your system is already protected and the windows update has got to know that from the Windows Security/Action Center. It shouldn't be offered as either Important or Critical (I can't recall the one it is under) when your system is protected.
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on a side note, I don't know what's going on, at Windows Update checks, MS keeps prompting me as an option (that I did hide a thousand times)to update MSE... hmm... when MSE has been installed, and is not anymore for quite a while here ;D
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I don't know what you think guys...
But I think that MSE is much worse than avast. Can MSE protect you on the internet? Can you set-up excludes, create custom scans or schedule boot-time scans? is MSE protect you from known IM infections? Does It blocks bad websites? What about website reputation? How number of viruses have MSE in database? Is MSE heuristics good? Isn't It higher than avast? Have It behavioral shield? These all things are missed in MSE. Avast! have only 1 competition - Avira personal. Avast! is the best free antivirus. You cannot found better. 8)
And MSE is totally fail from microsoft. :-X
So problem is fixed. Thanks
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I noted that microsoft windows updater offers me to download microsoft security essentials....
Can you give the number and the name of the update, it should be something like (KB000000) ? And the link to the related info URL ?
Thanks. :-[
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I don't know what you think guys...
But I think that MSE is much worse than avast. Can MSE protect you on the internet? Can you set-up excludes, create custom scans or schedule boot-time scans? is MSE protect you from known IM infections? Does It blocks bad websites? What about website reputation? How number of viruses have MSE in database? Is MSE heuristics good? Isn't It higher than avast? Have It behavioral shield? These all things are missed in MSE. Avast! have only 1 competition - Avira personal. Avast! is the best free antivirus. You cannot found better. 8)
And MSE is totally fail from microsoft. :-X
So problem is fixed. Thanks
sorry what ??? ::) I hate useless and blind bashing.
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Can you give the number and the name of the update, it should be something like (KB000000) ? And the link to the related info URL ?
Thanks. :-[
Microsoft Security Essentials - KB2267621
File size: 10,8 MB
Next informations:
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=155239
Help and support:
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=151935
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Thanks. :-[
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I don't know what you think guys...
But I think that MSE is much worse than avast. Can MSE protect you on the internet? Can you set-up excludes, create custom scans or schedule boot-time scans? is MSE protect you from known IM infections? Does It blocks bad websites? What about website reputation? How number of viruses have MSE in database? Is MSE heuristics good? Isn't It higher than avast? Have It behavioral shield? These all things are missed in MSE. Avast! have only 1 competition - Avira personal. Avast! is the best free antivirus. You cannot found better. 8)
And MSE is totally fail from microsoft. :-X
So problem is fixed. Thanks
I think that MSE is much worse than avast.
Your opinion, Ok.
Can MSE protect you on the internet?
Yes. Also, its protection is built-in in IE(SmartScreen Filter).
Can you set-up excludes, create custom scans or schedule boot-time scans?
Yes, but not include boottime scan.
is MSE protect you from known IM infections?
Of course, this is related to virus database, NOT a special shield.
Does It blocks bad websites? What about website reputation?
Again, included in IE(SmartScreen Filter)
How number of viruses have MSE in database?
There are no numbers, only encyclopedia (http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/Threat/Encyclopedia/Browse.aspx).
Is MSE heuristics good? Isn't It higher than avast?
Yes, see AV-Comparatives (http://www.av-comparatives.org/) tests to stay in tune.
Have It behavioral shield?
Yes. Since MSE 2.0
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I don't know what you think guys...
But I think that MSE is much worse than avast. Can MSE protect you on the internet? Can you set-up excludes, create custom scans or schedule boot-time scans? is MSE protect you from known IM infections? Does It blocks bad websites? What about website reputation? How number of viruses have MSE in database? Is MSE heuristics good? Isn't It higher than avast? Have It behavioral shield? These all things are missed in MSE. Avast! have only 1 competition - Avira personal. Avast! is the best free antivirus. You cannot found better. 8)
And MSE is totally fail from microsoft. :-X
So problem is fixed. Thanks
Actually almost all of those things are done by MSE but in a different way. The only things not in MSE are the IM shield and the mail shield. A lot of people will say that a mail shield in an AV is not needed anyway. If you also use Internet Explorer, MSE integrates with that to provide some very good browsing protection. MSE's heuristics may also even be better than Avast!'s right now.
The reasons why I don't use MSE are very slow scans, a perceived performance hit, and the fact that on the other machine here, MSE totally failed to upgrade both times program updates were offered. It got stuck during the process of urgrading and left the machine with no functioning AV protection until MSE was completely uninstalled manually and the new version redownloaded and installed. That was just not acceptable so that machine now also runs Avast! free.
I have never received an option to download MSE from Windows update. All I see is it listed as a category but when I click on that, there are no downloads offered.