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Title: EMET Notifier
Post by: Avastfan1 on September 26, 2012, 03:29:58 PM
Dear Forum,

I installed the EMET notifier before downloading and installing the Window$ Update with EMET included this month.

Questions:
- Has EMET been installed twice on my system?
- When can we uninstall EMET?

Thank you in advance!

Avastfan1
Title: Re: EMET Notifier
Post by: essexboy on September 26, 2012, 04:38:07 PM
It would have overinstalled so you just have one copy.  For the security that it gives you and the negligable overheads I would keep it
Title: Re: EMET Notifier
Post by: schmidthouse on September 26, 2012, 09:20:40 PM
How exactly does this Tool work? ???
Title: Re: EMET Notifier
Post by: essexboy on September 26, 2012, 10:28:05 PM
The outlined area in the screenshot is how zero access changes services.exe without being caught.  But with this tool that route is blocked

It is a DEP tool with a touch of aggro .. No-one messes with the files protected by this  ;D
Title: Re: EMET Notifier
Post by: Avastfan1 on September 26, 2012, 11:59:25 PM
Thank you for the informative responses.

Do we need to configure EMET after the Window$ Update install?
Title: Re: EMET Notifier
Post by: essexboy on September 27, 2012, 12:03:50 AM
No need the windows updates one came in fully configured
Title: Re: EMET Notifier
Post by: DavidR on September 27, 2012, 01:16:58 AM
So as a result of the EMET/KB update are we likely to see less or no instances of zero access or similar rootkits (on fully updated systems) ?
Title: Re: EMET Notifier
Post by: flashgamer001 on September 27, 2012, 02:21:04 AM
Is this something the average user should install? And how low is low overhead? (Running Win7 Starter here...)
Title: Re: EMET Notifier
Post by: DavidR on September 27, 2012, 03:11:00 AM
You don't have to install anything, as the EMET Notifier was an early fix prior to the official Windows Security Update.

So if you are keeping windows up to date it is done for you.
Title: Re: EMET Notifier
Post by: flashgamer001 on September 27, 2012, 03:13:07 AM
I asked because I couldn't find any references to emet in control panel or search. considering installing it anyway.
Title: Re: EMET Notifier
Post by: Vladimyr on September 27, 2012, 11:19:59 AM
How exactly does this Tool work? ???

EMET provides extra protection by adding new virus mitigation tools and enhancing existing capabilities.
E.g. for Windows XP it enhances existing DEP by overriding the need for software to notify the OS for it to be used. It also adds Windows Vista/7 features like Structured Exception Handling Overwrite Protection (SEHOP) and Mandatory Address Space Layout Randomization (ASLR).
There is an understandable increased risk of compatibility problems.

MS KB Article: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2458544
EMET 3.0: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=29851
EMET 3.5 "Tech Preview": http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=30424
Title: Re: EMET Notifier
Post by: bob3160 on September 27, 2012, 02:20:28 PM
Here's some further explanation:
http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/protecting-pcs-from-the-next-zero-day-threat/ (http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/protecting-pcs-from-the-next-zero-day-threat/)
It isn't a magic bullit and can cause some serious problems with trying to run some of your programs.
Title: Re: EMET Notifier
Post by: essexboy on September 27, 2012, 03:12:20 PM
It should greatly reduce the instances of services.exe being subverted on Vista and 7 systems
Title: Re: EMET Notifier
Post by: schmidthouse on September 28, 2012, 12:05:29 AM
How exactly does this Tool work? ???

EMET provides extra protection by adding new virus mitigation tools and enhancing existing capabilities.
E.g. for Windows XP it enhances existing DEP by overriding the need for software to notify the OS for it to be used. It also adds Windows Vista/7 features like Structured Exception Handling Overwrite Protection (SEHOP) and Mandatory Address Space Layout Randomization (ASLR).
There is an understandable increased risk of compatibility problems.

MS KB Article: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2458544
EMET 3.0: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=29851
EMET 3.5 "Tech Preview": http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=30424

Thanks for your time Vladimyr
And Bob1360

Appreciate the info. :D
Title: Re: EMET Notifier
Post by: bob3160 on September 28, 2012, 12:58:00 AM
You're welcome. Stay safe.  :)
Title: Re: EMET Notifier
Post by: Vladimyr on September 28, 2012, 03:00:05 PM
No worries!
Title: Re: EMET Notifier
Post by: schmidthouse on September 29, 2012, 04:42:34 AM
I have a number of "Windows\System32" entries that aren't setup in EMET
See Screenshot.
Are these applications something that should/could be entered in protection?? ???
For example: the numerous "scvhost" entries.
Thanks :)