Avast WEBforum

Consumer Products => Avast Free Antivirus / Premium Security (legacy Pro Antivirus, Internet Security, Premier) => Topic started by: Antigen on April 10, 2005, 08:49:23 PM

Title: Avast Personal Vs Kaspersky Personal 5
Post by: Antigen on April 10, 2005, 08:49:23 PM
Dear user of Avast Antivirus, I have some problem with the good antivirus Kaspersky (for detection) and now I need a new alternative.... Avast is comparable with Kaspersky PErsonal 5 for detection of viruses and malware ecc....
Thanks.  ;)
Title: Re: Avast Personal Vs Kaspersky Personal 5
Post by: kamulko on April 10, 2005, 08:57:35 PM
I tried thousands of AV... I like Avast!. It don't have the coloured interfaces of Norton or McAfee...also nor simple configuration like AVG or other software... but I like it for the high customization and the powerful engine. (full colour and rounded GUI steals a lot of memory and slow down the OS, I think). This is the voice of the brain.
The voice of the heart says: "AVAST! THE ONLY, THE ONE, THE BEST AV OF THE WORLD!!!"   ;D
Title: Re: Avast Personal Vs Kaspersky Personal 5
Post by: Antigen on April 10, 2005, 09:01:22 PM
Thanks  :)
Another Italian user! Ciao!
Title: Re: Avast Personal Vs Kaspersky Personal 5
Post by: kamulko on April 10, 2005, 09:04:19 PM
anche tu? Prima niente per mesi... poi 2 nel giro di due giorni... bene bene... la crociata per diffondere Avast! in Italia sta procedendo.  ;D
Title: Re: Avast Personal Vs Kaspersky Personal 5
Post by: Antigen on April 10, 2005, 09:10:15 PM
L'importante è che funzioni anche!!!  ;D
Ho comprato la licenza di Kaspersky Personal ed ora per un bug mi sa che devo cambiarlo!!! >:( O utilizzare la vecchia release (sempre la 5)... ma si sa che usare un software non patchato correttamente espone a rischi...  >:(
Title: Re: Avast Personal Vs Kaspersky Personal 5
Post by: kamulko on April 10, 2005, 09:22:39 PM
io sono talmente soddisfatto che ho comprato la licenza per 2 anni. Tra poco uscirà la nuova versione ma il Team ci tiene all'oscuro... tranne per qualcosa che si deudce dalle rare risposte nel Forum. I bug di Avast! esistono e ogni tanto ne viene fuori uno di minore importanza e viene patchato immediatamente. Ti assicuro che in molti, qui, stanno usando la versione beta (me compreso che non sono un mostro di competenza come alcuni) e ti assicuro che è salda come una roccia.
Title: Re: Avast Personal Vs Kaspersky Personal 5
Post by: Antigen on April 10, 2005, 09:26:08 PM
Nuova versione!??! Ma non è appena uscita la 4.6? Scusa la domanda che potrei risolvere da me... quanto costa la licenza biennale?
Title: Re: Avast Personal Vs Kaspersky Personal 5
Post by: kamulko on April 10, 2005, 10:53:08 PM
Scusa il ritardo con cui ti rispondo, ma era andata via la luce... blackout! beh, non ricordo quanto ho pagato la licenza biennale, ma puoi trovare chiarimenti sul sito del distributore italiano di Avast! Non ci sono certezze, ma credo che sul finire 2005-2006 ci saranno novità. Non me l'ha detto nessuno, sia chiaro, ma mi sono fatto un'idea da certi elementi.

distributore in italia: http://www.blufile.it/
Title: Re: Avast Personal Vs Kaspersky Personal 5
Post by: Lisandro on April 11, 2005, 12:26:28 AM
If you don`t keep the English you`ll be alone...  :P
Oh, read the forum policy, here English is the language  ;)
Title: Re: Avast Personal Vs Kaspersky Personal 5
Post by: kamulko on April 11, 2005, 12:35:18 AM
Sorry, Tech, I knew it... but I see an Italian user who is evaluating to come into "Avast! Brotherood" and for us is more easy to explain: if you look at a quick babelfish translation, you'll see how I'm an ... EVANGELIST!!! ;D
Title: Re: Avast Personal Vs Kaspersky Personal 5
Post by: americano on June 11, 2006, 10:44:00 AM
anche tu? Prima niente per mesi... poi 2 nel giro di due giorni... bene bene... la crociata per diffondere Avast! in Italia sta procedendo.  ;D

Chiedo scusa ma non ho capito bene DOVE dovevo inviare questa mia richiesta..
perdonatemi l'errore per favore. Ho un problema(credo): da un po' di tempo la
finestrina che in automatico mi appariva sul desktop avvisando che era stato fatto un aggiornamento..NON compare piu'. Ho controllato: tutto risulta al riguardo impostato fin dall'inizio in "automatici".Non mi spiego quindi. 7 gg. fa accendendp il pc mi trovai un messaggio di Avast che diceva solamente: Spegnere e riavviare il computer".
Nient'altro. Mi pare proprio che da quel periodo non appare piu' la finestra di avviso dell'aggiornamento. Qualcuno puo' aiutarmi o spiegarmi,per favore ?
Gradirei una risposta personale,per cortesia...come sia capitato qui NON lo
saprei ripetere---:) Grazie..sono preoccupato..
pgiorgio.m@tin.it
Title: Re: Avast Personal Vs Kaspersky Personal 5
Post by: TAP on June 11, 2006, 12:16:29 PM
Kaspersky Anti-virus is state-of-the-art scanner, IMHO. The proactive defense module (behaviour blocker) in Kaspersky 6 can stop/block 99%+ of the malware collection conducted by AV-Comparatives.org, hope avast! will have such feature in its next version.
Title: Re: Avast Personal Vs Kaspersky Personal 5
Post by: Vlk on June 11, 2006, 11:51:52 PM
JerryM, I've been watching your posts here and over at Wilders' for some time, and frankly, I don't really know what your point is.

This forum is not a "which AV to use / not use" discussion board. Instead, it's a place meant to support those who have, and are using (or planning to use) avast! antivirus. This is why it was created and this is why we (well, most of us) come here.

I think the confusion is that you think that avast "is a second tier AV product" while most of people here don't think so.

Cheers
Vlk
Title: Re: Avast Personal Vs Kaspersky Personal 5
Post by: Thorny on June 12, 2006, 12:03:11 AM
I am sorry I do not understand Italian, but I did an on-line translation of Americano's post earlier today that re-ignited this thread. 

"I ask excuse but I have not understood well WHERE I had to send to this my demand.
you pardon the error please to me. I have a problem (creed): they give a little time
finestrina that in automatic rifle appeared to me on the desktop informing that it had been made a modernization. .NON appears piu'. has controlled: all it turns out with regard to set up from the beginning in “automati to us”. I do not explain therefore 7 gg. it makes accendendp the PC I found a message of Avast that only said: To extinguish and to riavviare the computer”.
Nient'altro. It seems just to me that from that period the window of warning of the modernization does not appear piu'. Someone puo' to help me or to explain to me, please?
I would appreciate a personal answer, for cortesia...com and is capitato here NOT
I would know to repeat---:) Thanks. .sono preoccupied.
pgiorgio.m@tin.it"[/i]

Hmmm.... Looks to me as if Americano did not know where to post a request for help in Italian so he tacked it on to this 14 month old thread which also contains posts in his own language. Although the translation is not very clear, it would appear he has a problem with an Avast update causing an error message?

Not one mention of Kaspersky anywhere!
 
Is there any chance anyone on the forum can actually help this guy?

Cheers,

Thorny
Title: Re: Avast Personal Vs Kaspersky Personal 5
Post by: JerryM on June 12, 2006, 12:18:50 AM
JerryM, I've been watching your posts here and over at Wilders' for some time, and frankly, I don't really know what your point is.

This forum is not a "which AV to use / not use" discussion board. Instead, it's a place meant to support those who have, and are using (or planning to use) avast! antivirus. This is why it was created and this is why we (well, most of us) come here.

I think the confusion is that you think that avast "is a second tier AV product" while most of people here don't think so.

Cheers
Vlk

Hi Vik,
I have no point. I am not here to criticize Avast per se. If you permit such discussions and questions I am just participating. They make up a very small part of the forum.

I have no  quarrel with anyone who thinks Avast is the best AV for his use. But one is blind to think it has the best protection, since when it gets down to it detection is what I have an AV for.

My definition of a second tier AV has to do with detection rates. The single best and most objective test organization is AV Comparatives. It is obvious which AVs are rated Advanced +, Advanced, and Standard. It is purely detection rates, and that is an objective number.

The most important thing about this forum is to help solve Avast problems for Avast users. That is only one part of Wilders.

I was using Avast, and came here to keep up with how it does, and what problems might be encountered. I have no motive other than that.

As to Wilders, do you find that I have zeroed in on Avast? If so post a few lines where I have been unfair. I  enter into the discussions as I think I can add something or ask questions, or contribute.

I have no emotional attachment in my own mind about software, nor are my posts emotional. I am willing to abide by the rules of the forum as long as I know what they are. I am sure that this forum was not started to bash Avast, and I  have not done that.
I recommend that you quickly close threads that either start or begin to make a comparison of AVs.

Best,
Jerry
Title: Re: Avast Personal Vs Kaspersky Personal 5
Post by: Vlk on June 12, 2006, 12:33:52 AM
Quote
My definition of a second tier AV has to do with detection rates. The single best and most objective test organization is AV Comparatives. It is obvious which AVs are rated Advanced +, Advanced, and Standard. It is purely detection rates, and that is an objective number.

Well, I can't agree with this statement.
Av-comparatives (and most other test institutions) only test one part of the AV products, namely the on-demand scanner. But the product consists in a number of other important parts, such as

- on-access scanner (with or without some proactive/heuristic/behavioral blocking features)
- mail/web scanner (with or without some proactive/heuristic/behavioral blocking features)
- updater (the speed/reliability of updates is very important)
- healing of inftected systems

etc. This is why I think that while avast may not be in the first league detection-wise, it has many other advantanges that can make it "first-tier".

Quote
As to Wilders, do you find that I have zeroed in on Avast? If so post a few lines where I have been unfair. I  enter into the discussions as I think I can add something or ask questions, or contribute.


I'm sorry I didn't mean to say you were bashing avast...

Quote
I recommend that you quickly close threads that either start or begin to make a comparison of AVs.

No reason to do that, they show that avast is continuously improving... ;)


BTW I didn't remove your previous post - it must've been some other mod. Sorry... :-\


Thanks
Vlk
Title: Re: Avast Personal Vs Kaspersky Personal 5
Post by: JerryM on June 12, 2006, 12:43:23 AM
Hi Vik,

I did not even notice the removal, but I would not  have been offended. As a mod you have the right to do as you think best for the forum.

I wrote a review of Avast in the not too distant past. I am reproducing it here. I think that will show that I have respect for Avast regardless of how I may be coming across.

Quote.
    For several years I have recommended Avast Home to those who want to get rid of Norton, and do not want to pay for an AV. I have used it some, and currently have it on my laptop. My own experience is that it downloads and installs without incident, the updates are also without problems, scan times are short, it is compatible with all my programs, and none of us have had an infection.

    I also am using KAV6 on my desktop, and there is no question in my mind that KAV and NOD32 and others have a higher detection rate than Avast. However, the area in which AV Comparatives shows that Avast falls short is in the area of trojan, and other detection. I am persuaded that Avast in combination with a good AT, such as Ewido Plus, provides as much real world security as the others for those of us who are safe surfers.

    Avast is a great AV. What more can one ask that to go for months and even years with no infection. That is the proof of the pudding as far as I am concerned.

Added: May 8th 2006 End Quote

Hope there are no hard feelings to date. I have none, and hope also that folks can discuss disagreements without making them pesonal.

In the spirit of wanting to contribute and not be detrimental I will refrain from such discussions in the future. I'll pretend I do not see such questions. ;D ;D

How about that?
ADDED. The review was posted at Castle Cops. Maybe I am not consistent since I am using another AV, but I still hold to that review.
Best,
Jerry

Title: Re: Avast Personal Vs Kaspersky Personal 5
Post by: polonus on June 12, 2006, 01:11:02 AM
Hello JerryM,

There is no way in comparing apples and pears. That is so for AV solutions as well. I see AV as part of a total solution, and I am opportunistic enough to use what kind of scanning gives me a good result. Avast is at the basis of this, and the basic line here is. It has kept me free of malware period.
I have used Norton in the past, and experienced a lot of things I would not like to wish an end-user to experience (slow-ups with certification-verifying problems, while some-one loaded the wrong database). DrWeb's heuristics make me jittery, that is the only part of that AV that gives me the creeps (FP on things like toolbarcop, and other normal anti-malware tools). On the other hand their plug-in for scanning every hyperlink inside a browser, that could connect you to malware on their very frequently updated servers in St.Petersburg is the work of a genius (cannot live without that service now). I also welcomed Siteadvisor, I use the online scanner by Bitdefenders (like it a lot to have a montly scan there), and still use McAfee' free stinger.exe for instance.
But in a total solution of multi-layered protection Avast is a good and reliable product. But believe me those who understand the protection of malware swear by their own brew of protection measures of which avast is the axis.

polonus
Title: Re: Avast Personal Vs Kaspersky Personal 5
Post by: TheWhiteknight on June 12, 2006, 01:13:51 AM
JerryM

Yep no hard feelings I guess we just have different view points , I take onboard your review on castle cops .

Take easy

Darkloardsparda

I understand why mods cleared our posts fair play !
Title: Re: Avast Personal Vs Kaspersky Personal 5
Post by: TheWhiteknight on June 12, 2006, 01:19:46 AM
Yeah I second that polonus ! :)

Darklordsparda