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Other => General Topics => Topic started by: honda2010 on July 11, 2013, 07:44:04 PM
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I am a die hard FireFox user but I see Avast recommends chrome. I downloaded chrome todays it seems to smoke ff by a long shot as far as speed but just gotta learn all the settings and such. What is you alls opinion on this. Do you use ff or chrome for your browsers? Any imput is appreciated. Thanks!!
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You may well of opened a can of worms with this one. I use both. May I suggest you get certain add-ons/extensions.
AdBlock Plus, Virus Total, Do No Track Me are just a few. But to each their own.
You will find forum members prefer FF over Chrome and the other way around.
We have some who use only Chrome and some that use only Firefox.
Side note Chrome seems to be the most popular browser anymore. See http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp :)
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I'm just wanting some opinions. I've never used chrome before until about a hour ago. I seem to like it and speed is amazing.
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I used Firefox for a while and since moved to Chrome. I like it's speed and how each tab is opened under a different process. FF, for some reason, liked to freeze up often on my computer. So, speed, separate processes, and lack of freezing caused me to make the switch. If Chrome starts freezing up for whatever reason, I would switch back to Firefox.
To me, both are very nice browsers that are easily customized to your liking. Speed and functionality determined my final decision.
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I used Firefox for a while and since moved to Chrome. I like it's speed and how each tab is opened under a different process. FF, for some reason, liked to freeze up often on my computer. So, speed, separate processes, and lack of freezing caused me to make the switch. If Chrome starts freezing up for whatever reason, I would switch back to Firefox.
To me, both are very nice browsers that are easily customized to your liking. Speed and functionality was my final decision.
This freezing up issue is 1 of the reasons I'm trying chrome. Another is Avast recommends it. Thanks for your input.
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I haven't experienced this freezing up of firefox that you talk of, but my guess it would probably a misbehaving add-on.
I would try running it for a while in safe browsing mode, e.g. all add-ons disabled and see if it still occurs.
As for the FireFox VS Chrome question, it is a matter of personal choice and needs of your browser. I have been using firefox for some considerable time now and have on occasion installed chrome and I really haven't been able to get on with its interface. So firefox suits my needs and I like its highly configurable interface and add-on support.
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I started as a fervent firefox or rather flock user, but after some security extensions came available to Google Chrome also like adblocking, a script and pop-ip blocker etc., I have come to appreciate that browser also. Both browsers have the Google Safebrowsing protection. Matter of choice and what feels good to you,
polonus
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I'm quite happy using Chrome as my default browser for a long time.
I also have all of the other popular browsers available to me.
Browser popularity and which one is the best one, depends entirely on who you ask the question.
Current the most recent version of any of the popular browsers are safe to use.
We each have our favorite and a lot of which is your favorite depends on which one you use
and which one get get familiar with.
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1373598941154-93628.png)
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What is you alls opinion on this. Do you use ff or chrome for your browsers? Any imput is appreciated. Thanks!!
See my sig.
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Thanks for the replies.
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I prefer google chrome, as its much faster compared to any of the browsers i have used so far. Firefox has some nice utilities though that google chrome is missing out on.
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I use Firefox (just habit + my bookmarks is complex and large. Therefor is not possible for me just to switch to Chrome) and though I know that Chrome it quicker and more stable browser, I somehow do not like some of its settings.
P.S: Did you know that IE10 (soon 11 ) is much faster, more stable and more secure browser than Chrome is. ;D
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P.S: Did you know that IE10 (soon 11 ) is much faster, more stable and more secure browser than Chrome is. ;D
Your not really pulling my bloody leg are you magna86 ;D or it just your IMHO ;)
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P.S: Did you know that IE10 (soon 11 ) is much faster, more stable and more secure browser than Chrome is. ;D
Your not really pulling my bloody leg are you magna86 ;D or it just your IMHO ;)
Its actually very true Speedy :)
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P.S: Did you know that IE10 (soon 11 ) is much faster, more stable and more secure browser than Chrome is. ;D
You not really pulling my bloody leg are you magna86 ;D or it just your IMHO ;)
Haha, no it's not my opinion. ;D It has been proven many times in various tests. In Windows Phone v8 too you have IE v10 browser that is very fast and very stable.
IE 11 is even better. Much better...
Think about it. Who knows Windows OS's better than Microsoft does.
Please do not get me wrong, I indeed do not like to use IE. Like all Microsoft products, IE is too "locked up" and it's not allowed to user to set the IE browser and to be used as we wants but we must use it as Microsoft has imagined. Like a MAC OS's ... ::)
For this reason IE is not popular, and they (MS) do not want to listen the users desires so ... theyfor I do not like IE and not use it.
But when we talk about security and stability, IE is ...
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OT: Is their any link that you can prove to me that IE is becoming more secure browser, I mean I find that very hard to believe from MS ;D
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I know how you feel. ;D And I found it hard to believe too but it happens since IE9. Microsoft with IE8 has start working hard to improve they web browser.
http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/web/ie10-isn-t-the-coolest-browser-on-the-block-but-it-may-well-be-the-safest-1151388
http://www.zdnet.com/ie10-beats-chrome-safari-firefox-at-blocking-web-malware-7000015409/
http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/05/14/latest-study-finds-ie10-is-better-at-blocking-malware-than-chrome-safari-firefox-and-opera/
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ie10-firefox-chrome-safari-secure-browser,18719.html
http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-talks-more-about-ie10-security-features
..etc
PS: good title
IE10 isn't the coolest browser on the block, but it may well be the safest
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Thanks magna86 8)
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Well just an fyi from my experience, I've been using IE since 8 and in the years I've used IE, I've never had one security issue or breach.
I use IE10 along side FF 22. :)
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Interesting discussions to follow. Well I have latest IE on windows 8 now, very fast.
I have a smartphone that comes with a Chrome OS - chrome there is very fast.
Now for Poland, where firefox has 44,4 % of the market, they gonna introduce the firefox OS smartphones.
Gonna be very fast and tweakable.
I can understand the IE position on a windows platform, as it is part of the OS, it must be fastest,
else coders and developers did a lousy job.
All browsers bend standards on the curves, IE has a bad reputation there.
What I miss in IE are security applications like NoScript and Safescript for firefox and chrome...
How is bing security versus google safebrowsing protection?
polonus
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Hi all,
I believe that Firefox's freezing has to do with the amount of ram available. From my experiences, Firefox keeps some memory even after you close the tab.
~!Donovan
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Good observation,
Uncheck Use hardware acceleration when available. There still are glitches.
A known bug is that firefox can hang on an unresponsive script, especially when using NoScript...
the script may give a hint on what extension may be involved here...
Damian
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I believe that Firefox's freezing has to do with the amount of ram available. From my experiences, Firefox keeps some memory even after you close the tab.
~!Donovan
I have recently upgraded my memory to 4GB and firefox generally uses the same RAM as when I had 2GB, but it can get up to very high amounts. Earlier today on checking the task manager firefox had a Peak Mem Usage of 750MB, so on a system with less resources it could have a negative effect on performance/firefox.
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I have not tried google chrome myself,but i have used comodo dragon which is a sort of chrome in different clothes.
Although dragon was fast and everything i still prefer firefox purely for its stunning good looks and incredible array of extensions.
Ive been loyal to mozilla for a couple of years now.
So firefox is my preferred browser and choice.
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Jusdt my experience:
The reason Chrome is faster than Ff are the addons. Try Ff without addons and you will see for yourself.
I would really love to get rid off Ff myself, it does too many things I do not want ot do, and as you also experienced it freezes all too often, because the addons need too much time. But Ff without addons is useless. An insult is the so-called "do not track" function, that does not prevent tracking, it simply asks the advertisers that I would prefer not to be tracked. So, would they kindly not... What an idiotic insult!
But all of this will certainly not make me use anything from Google or M$, it is a simple and easy choice.
I wish there was a reasonable alternative, but there is not....
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P.S: Did you know that IE10 (soon 11 ) is much faster, more stable and more secure browser than Chrome is. ;D
Your not really pulling my bloody leg are you magna86 ;D or it just your IMHO ;)
I find IE10 a big dinosaur. Google is fastest even with the same extensions and add-ons than Firefox 22 on my Win7 SP1 (64bits) system. IE10 smart filter is as secure as is MSE4 and with the Webguard part of most AV I simply rely on fast Chrome. It's simply the fastest... ;D
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Firefox runs the fastest on my computer. I hate both Google Chrome and IE10.
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I still believe that it depends on the amount of ram your computer has and your overall usage of Firefox everyday. I usually hit over 2gb memory easily by opening various tabs throughout the day since most of my work is web-orientated. This used to cause lots of problems with only 1gb ram.. the only solution I found was to restart Firefox and monitor it's overall ram usage until it needs to be restarted again. Firefox lags even more on my mother's XP with 512mb ram,
~!Donovan
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I highly doubt that this topic was meant to start a piss??g contest
Both are good browsers you choose the one you prefer.
All the current top Browsers are safe to use and we all have our favorites.
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I highly doubt that this topic was meant to start a piss??g contest
Both are good browsers you choose the one you prefer.
All the current top Browsers are safe to use and we all have our favorites.
"All the current top Browsers are safe to use..."
What is this? An entry to a comedian contest? Google and Micrososft are "safe"?
That is a good one, congratulations.....
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Well John Grey,
Why the ironic comment, we have passed that station a long, long time ago, say from 1997 onwards.
Whatever the browser, it comes now with the same rendering machine,
and is to be used under the same present day data retention laws...
and will soon have EME (Encrypted Media Extensions) DRM to be used from possibly a unique user InternetID,
pushed by Google, MS and Netfix and going to be implemeted whether W3C likes it or not...
What do you inspect the discussion to be about then, we are discussing browsers!
polonus
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I highly doubt that this topic was meant to start a piss??g contest
Both are good browsers you choose the one you prefer.
All the current top Browsers are safe to use and we all have our favorites.
"All the current top Browsers are safe to use..."
What is this? An entry to a comedian contest? Google and Micrososft are "safe"?
Could you please explain why microsoft is unsafe please.?
That is a ridiculous thing to say.
That is a good one, congratulations.....
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@Arnold72
Was there a reason to repeat John Grey's post ???
Unless you have something to add, simply repeating a post is simply useless information.
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I didnt repeat his post bob.
The post came out wrong..
Apologies...its late here and have tired eyes lol.
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WOW thanks for all the replies. I think I found something better than both. Well for me I should say. You all tried Comodo Ice Dragon? Its Fire Fox but faster and safer. I have to say I like it better than Chrome or FF. There is also just Dragon which is Chrome but faster and safer. Check it out.
http://www.comodo.com/home/browsers-toolbars/icedragon-browser.php
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WOW thanks for all the replies. I think I found something better than both. Well for me I should say. You all tried Comodo Ice Dragon? Its Fire Fox but faster and safer. I have to say I like it better than Chrome or FF. There is also just Dragon which is Chrome but faster and safer. Check it out.
http://www.comodo.com/home/browsers-toolbars/icedragon-browser.php
Using any of these negates the protection built into avast! when you're browsing on the internet.
You may use what you please, I'll stick with what's safely protected by avast!. :)
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WOW thanks for all the replies. I think I found something better than both. Well for me I should say. You all tried Comodo Ice Dragon? Its Fire Fox but faster and safer. I have to say I like it better than Chrome or FF. There is also just Dragon which is Chrome but faster and safer. Check it out.
http://www.comodo.com/home/browsers-toolbars/icedragon-browser.php
Using any of these negates the protection built into avast! when you're browsing on the internet.
You may use what you please, I'll stick with what's safely protected by avast!. :)
So my Avast Internet Security inst keeping me safe using the IceDragon FF browser? Is that what your saying?
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WOW thanks for all the replies. I think I found something better than both. Well for me I should say. You all tried Comodo Ice Dragon? Its Fire Fox but faster and safer. I have to say I like it better than Chrome or FF. There is also just Dragon which is Chrome but faster and safer. Check it out.
http://www.comodo.com/home/browsers-toolbars/icedragon-browser.php
Using any of these negates the protection built into avast! when you're browsing on the internet.
You may use what you please, I'll stick with what's safely protected by avast!. :)
So my Avast Internet Security inst keeping me safe using the IceDragon FF browser? Is that what your saying?
You've got it backwards. IceDragon isn't allowing avast access and therefore avast! can't do it's job.
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WOW thanks for all the replies. I think I found something better than both. Well for me I should say. You all tried Comodo Ice Dragon? Its Fire Fox but faster and safer. I have to say I like it better than Chrome or FF. There is also just Dragon which is Chrome but faster and safer. Check it out.
http://www.comodo.com/home/browsers-toolbars/icedragon-browser.php
Using any of these negates the protection built into avast! when you're browsing on the internet.
You may use what you please, I'll stick with what's safely protected by avast!. :)
So my Avast Internet Security inst keeping me safe using the IceDragon FF browser? Is that what your saying?
You've got it backwards. IceDragon isn't allowing avast access and therefore avast! can't do it's job.
I don't understand bob? Why doesn't it allow avast to do it job? If I don't need to use it I wont.
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What bob3160 is saying is also being discussed here:
https://forums.comodo.com/general-security-questions-and-comments/which-is-better-avast-or-comodo-internet-security-only-2-things-holding-me-t93717.0.html;wap2=
Consider the avast! Shields technology you miss, and also consider Comodo's inferior virus definitions.
What is tipping the balance for me is clear (the avast! Shields)...but again you are free to decide for yourself,
polonus
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What bob3160 is saying is also being discussed here:
https://forums.comodo.com/general-security-questions-and-comments/which-is-better-avast-or-comodo-internet-security-only-2-things-holding-me-t93717.0.html;wap2=
Consider the avast! Shields technology you miss, and also consider Comodo's inferior virus definitions.
What is tipping the balance for me is clear (the avast! Shields)...but again you are free to decide for yourself,
polonus
Am I missing something here?? I have not installed CIS I have AIS. All i have installed is a internet browser IceDragon. I'm lost on what you guys are saying.
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What bob3160 is saying is also being discussed here:
https://forums.comodo.com/general-security-questions-and-comments/which-is-better-avast-or-comodo-internet-security-only-2-things-holding-me-t93717.0.html;wap2= (https://forums.comodo.com/general-security-questions-and-comments/which-is-better-avast-or-comodo-internet-security-only-2-things-holding-me-t93717.0.html;wap2=)
Consider the avast! Shields technology you miss, and also consider Comodo's inferior virus definitions.
What is tipping the balance for me is clear (the avast! Shields)...but again you are free to decide for yourself,
polonus
Am I missing something here?? I have not installed CIS I have AIS. All i have installed is a internet browser IceDragon. I'm lost on what you guys are saying.
In order for avast to check your internet activity, you need to use a browsers whos information can be read by avast!.
The IceDragon doesn't permit that. Simple if you use IceDragon you depend on it's ability to protect you on the net without any help from avast!.
I much prefer avast! to anything coming from Comodo. You can make your own choice.
IceDragon is not a browser I would recommend to any one who asks me for advice.
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What bob3160 is saying is also being discussed here:
https://forums.comodo.com/general-security-questions-and-comments/which-is-better-avast-or-comodo-internet-security-only-2-things-holding-me-t93717.0.html;wap2= (https://forums.comodo.com/general-security-questions-and-comments/which-is-better-avast-or-comodo-internet-security-only-2-things-holding-me-t93717.0.html;wap2=)
Consider the avast! Shields technology you miss, and also consider Comodo's inferior virus definitions.
What is tipping the balance for me is clear (the avast! Shields)...but again you are free to decide for yourself,
polonus
Am I missing something here?? I have not installed CIS I have AIS. All i have installed is a internet browser IceDragon. I'm lost on what you guys are saying.
In order for avast to check your internet activity, you need to use a browsers whos information can be read by avast!.
The IceDragon doesn't permit that. Simple if you use IceDragon you depend on it's ability to protect you on the net without any help from avast!.
I much prefer avast! to anything coming from Comodo. You can make your own choice.
IceDragon is not a browser I would recommend to any one who asks me for advice.
Thanks for the info. I didn't know this. So whats my options on browsers to stay safe with my Avast Internet Security? Just Chrome and FF? No way would I ever use IE again I hate it.
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Hi honda2010,
Well the difference is between the Google Chrome where avast av functionality can be installed (web rep, shields etc.) and the Comodo Dragon Ice Comodo fork browser where this is not possible.
Comodo Dragon Ice has beefed up Comodo SSL cert verification (that you can have in Google Chrome also with an added extension) and the unique identifiers and usage tracking were taken out of Google Chrome, just like with the German iron browser, a Chrome clown to make a more privacy friendly browser concept possible (as Comodo's Chrome variant), which is just partly so because of all sort of scripts and fingerprinting going on under the hood, more security through obscurity as you ask me. For these reasons I launch Google Chrome from Chrome Privacy Guard with almost the same results. There is not much difference with security updates, Comodo's Chrome clown is not far behind official Chrome downloads and patches...
Also see here for proactive security reports: http://www.matousec.com/projects/proactive-security-challenge-64/results.php
polonus
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In order for avast to check your internet activity, you need to use a browsers whos information can be read by avast!.
The IceDragon doesn't permit that. Simple if you use IceDragon you depend on it's ability to protect you on the net without any help from avast!.
I much prefer avast! to anything coming from Comodo. You can make your own choice.
IceDragon is not a browser I would recommend to any one who asks me for advice.
You would recommend or you wouldn't recommend to any one who asks you for advice Bob ;D
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In order for avast to check your internet activity, you need to use a browsers whos information can be read by avast!.
The IceDragon doesn't permit that. Simple if you use IceDragon you depend on it's ability to protect you on the net without any help from avast!.
I much prefer avast! to anything coming from Comodo. You can make your own choice.
IceDragon is not a browser I would recommend to any one who asks me for advice.
You would recommend or you wouldn't recommend to any one who asks you for advice Bob ;D
Read what I wrote:
IceDragon is not a browser I would recommend to any one who asks me for advice.
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In order for avast to check your internet activity, you need to use a browsers whos information can be read by avast!.
The IceDragon doesn't permit that. Simple if you use IceDragon you depend on it's ability to protect you on the net without any help from avast!.
I much prefer avast! to anything coming from Comodo. You can make your own choice.
IceDragon is not a browser I would recommend to any one who asks me for advice.
You would recommend or you wouldn't recommend to any one who asks you for advice Bob ;D
Read what I wrote:
IceDragon is not a browser I would recommend to any one who asks me for advice.
I tried Ice Dragon but didn't like it so uninstalled it.
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In order for avast to check your internet activity, you need to use a browsers whos information can be read by avast!.
The IceDragon doesn't permit that. Simple if you use IceDragon you depend on it's ability to protect you on the net without any help from avast!.
I much prefer avast! to anything coming from Comodo. You can make your own choice.
IceDragon is not a browser I would recommend to any one who asks me for advice.
You would recommend or you wouldn't recommend to any one who asks you for advice Bob ;D
Read what I wrote:
IceDragon is not a browser I would recommend to any one who asks me for advice.
It isn't a web browser?
Perhaps you should read the whole sentence. :)
"Read what I wrote:
IceDragon is not a browser I would recommend to any one who asks me for advice."
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Back on my FF now. Thanks for all the info. ;D
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I use firefox as i like it better than this icedragon which to all intents and purposes is just firefox dressed in comodo clothing.If comodo are going to issue a browser then i wish they would come up with something original rather than taking chrome and firefox and dressing them up for a ball.
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Hi Arnold72,
With this extension in fx you have the same verification standard as for the IceDragon thingie: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/certificate-patrol/
In Chrome it will be ported by default (on demand): https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=49469
The Comodo Propaganda Train: http://patrol.psyced.org/
Taken from that link following:
Comodo, GeoTrust, GlobalSign, QuoVadis, RSA WebTrust and StartCom are known to offer intermediate CA for money. Still StartCom is extremely popular with small and private web sites for its free services. One Comodo reseller was hacked into, resulting into a plethora of counterfeited certificates for Gmail, Skype, Hotmail, Yahoo and Mozilla. GoDaddy has been notoriously lax in checking the validity of signing requests. DigiNotar is entirely unknown except for the MITM attack on Gmail .....
polonus
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Thank you very much for the links polonus. ;)
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Well, Chrome has all of the features that are supported from Firefox, also it is faster(maybe you noticed this) and you can view more details for the webpage than the Mozilla browser. And of course, it is more beautiful. But some people are concerned about their privacy. So, try it and make the decision by yourself. ;)
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In terms of browsing speed,I have not noticed any significant difference between the 2 browsers.
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Tried Chrome for a bit, did not like it as it was very cumbersome to me, so went back to FF. I'm a die-hard FF user along with my Avast! Long live both of them!!!!!! :)
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I have Comodo FW and AVIRAFREE with Webguard shield. It's protecting also the Dragon browser evenif Comodo...!!! Sounds weird to me that Avast's webshield don't protect Ice 8)
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I have Comodo FW and AVIRAFREE with Webguard shield. It's protecting also the Dragon browser evenif Comodo...!!! Sounds weird to me that Avast's webshield don't protect Ice 8)
Why mention "avira" on an avast forum? ???
The OP is asking about browsers "not" a/v's.
@ Omega40 Chrome is anything but cumbersome. Chrome is super light and extremely easy to use. BTW I use both for different reasons. 8)
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@ Omega40 Chrome is anything but cumbersome. Chrome is super light and extremely easy to use. BTW I use both for different reasons. 8)
How people perceive a browser will be different. I don't like the Chrome interface, I have tried it several times in the past and I just don't like it. So much so that I have gone to the if it isn't broke don't fix it view of the browser you use currently, until it no longer meets your needs why look elsewhere.
So the experience is going to be user based, how you get on with it will differ from user to user.
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I have Comodo FW and AVIRAFREE with Webguard shield. It's protecting also the Dragon browser evenif Comodo...!!! Sounds weird to me that Avast's webshield don't protect Ice 8)
Why mention "avira" on an avast forum? ???
The OP is asking about browsers "not" a/v's.
@ Omega40 Chrome is anything but cumbersome. Chrome is super light and extremely easy to use. BTW I use both for different reasons. 8)
I'm happy for you, darling. ;)
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I use Firefox because I have a huge feeling it is going some where better then google chrome.. It has many more features built in that you have to get an addon for in chrome.
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I use Firefox because I have a huge feeling it is going some where better then google chrome.. It has many more features built in that you have to get an addon for in chrome.
I think you have that backwards. :)
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I use Firefox because I have a huge feeling it is going some where better then google chrome.. It has many more features built in that you have to get an addon for in chrome.
I think you have that backwards. :)
Not really last time I checked in Google Chrome it didn't have support for RSS but there is an addon for that.
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I use Firefox because I have a huge feeling it is going some where better then google chrome.. It has many more features built in that you have to get an addon for in chrome.
I think you have that backwards. :)
Not really last time I checked in Google Chrome it didn't have support for RSS but there is an addon for that.
What does RSS have to do with the quality of a browser ???
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I use Firefox because I have a huge feeling it is going some where better then google chrome.. It has many more features built in that you have to get an addon for in chrome.
I think you have that backwards. :)
Not really last time I checked in Google Chrome it didn't have support for RSS but there is an addon for that.
What does RSS have to do with the quality of a browser ???
I don't think it does have anything to do with the quality of a browser :P
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I have Comodo FW and AVIRAFREE with Webguard shield. It's protecting also the Dragon browser evenif Comodo...!!! Sounds weird to me that Avast's webshield don't protect Ice 8)
Why mention "avira" on an avast forum? ???
The OP is asking about browsers "not" a/v's.
@ Omega40 Chrome is anything but cumbersome. Chrome is super light and extremely easy to use. BTW I use both for different reasons. 8)
I pointed out that Avira offers me protection on any browser. I was running Avast for many many years but it simply won't stay on my system but it's OT...! Avira is stable and I'm happy with it. Hope only Avast will improve and stop looking its belly button all the time...!!!
You're right. Chrome and Dragon are way faster and secure (some kind of sandbox...). For privacy, I won't dream surfing the web without sending any info to Google for sure (google analytics etc...). Just tested it on the internet speed page (google it!) and Google won the prize!!! :)
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If you're so happy with your new AV, why aren't you on their support forum ???
Since you don't have avast! installed, you really can't offer any one any hands on help in this forum.