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Title: Traces of antiviruses softwares after online scans
Post by: kamulko on April 27, 2005, 12:33:35 AM
On Internet Magazine (italian version) of this month, I read :" after online scanning, the Panda, Trend-Micro, McAfee, Norton (etcetera) leave some traces on your HD".
So, I ran in search of this hidden traces but I nothing founded about. Can some evangelist say me more?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Traces of antiviruses softwares after online scans
Post by: Lisandro on April 27, 2005, 03:02:36 AM
On Internet Magazine (italian version) of this month, I read :" after online scanning, the Panda, Trend-Micro, McAfee, Norton (etcetera) leave some traces on your HD".
So, I ran in search of this hidden traces but I nothing founded about. Can some evangelist say me more?

I don't know about McAfee and Norton. Trend-Micro is safe and does not left trash behind as far I know.

But, these are false detections due to Panda on-line scan  :P :'(
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=12432.msg104932#msg104932

IMSCAN.DLL
PAVDLL.DLL
PAV.SIG
APVXD.VX2
APVXD.VXD
Title: Re: Traces of antiviruses softwares after online scans
Post by: MFB on April 27, 2005, 04:33:05 AM
Avast detected a virus in Panda Active Scan for me as well.  After that I stop using Panda Active Scan and remove the Active X controls for it cause it keeps showing me two Adwares in programs that I never see in my hardrive.  Spybot and Ad-aware SE didn't detect it, I had Microsoft Beta Antispyware for a few weeks before I remove it and that didn't detect it, not even McAfee detect it before I remove that.  Avst! didn't detect these adwares as well so I just though it was a false alarm.
Title: Re: Traces of antiviruses softwares after online scans
Post by: kamulko on April 27, 2005, 10:05:55 AM
Thanks for share your experience. Maybe this traces (except activeX, yhat I deleted immediately after the scan) are deleted from automatic cleaning by CCleaner... ???
Title: Re: Traces of antiviruses softwares after online scans
Post by: DavidR on April 27, 2005, 01:25:41 PM
I doubt that they would be deleted by ccleaner as they are out into folders other than the system temp. Mostly what causes the problems are on-line scans that download their virus pattern signature file and it hasn't been encrypted so the signatures are detected as a virus.

Panda's on-line scanner would appear to be the worst for this, leaving unencrypted VPS file left on your HDD after the scan.
Title: Re: Traces of antiviruses softwares after online scans
Post by: Lisandro on April 27, 2005, 01:46:31 PM
I doubt that they would be deleted by ccleaner as they are out into folders other than the system temp.
Kamulko, listen to David, I agree with him  8)
CCleaner could take other files away (maybe the ActiveX, etc.).
Trust Trend-Micro on-line scanning  :)
Title: Re: Traces of antiviruses softwares after online scans
Post by: kamulko on April 27, 2005, 01:52:36 PM
Ok, guys, after your counseiling I'm in peace-of-mind now!!!

Thanks!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Traces of antiviruses softwares after online scans
Post by: TedNelly on April 28, 2005, 09:45:03 AM
Kamulko

Trend-Micro does indeed leave remnants of itself on your hard drive after an
on line scan!!


C:\Windows\Downloaded Program Files -: ActiveX (HouseCall Control)
C:\Windows\AU_Backup
C:\Windows\AU_Log
C:\Windows\AU_Temp (Not temp enough)

Take a look for yourself
Title: Re: Traces of antiviruses softwares after online scans
Post by: kamulko on April 28, 2005, 01:54:42 PM
Thanks for your note.. I don't find nothing. I have checked also in TEMP folder. maybe I have some hidden ghost-cleaners files in my PC:  mistery!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Traces of antiviruses softwares after online scans
Post by: Lisandro on April 28, 2005, 02:07:25 PM
Thanks for the info, P3t3rb0nn.
But in my system, for any reason, Trend-Micro does not left behind these files  ??? ::)
Title: Re: Traces of antiviruses softwares after online scans
Post by: whocares on April 30, 2005, 11:52:05 PM
@ Trend micro:

it's behaviour might also depend on which browser you use, and whether you use the IE/ActiveX version, or the JAVA-version of Housecall

With IE, it definitely leaves the above entries on a W2k-system
 ;)
Title: Re: Traces of antiviruses softwares after online scans
Post by: Lisandro on May 01, 2005, 01:07:40 AM
With IE, it definitely leaves the above entries on a W2k-system
With IE and XP SP2 it could not leave anything behind... Maybe I'm just the lucky guy  8)
Title: Re: Traces of antiviruses softwares after online scans
Post by: MFB on May 01, 2005, 02:24:19 AM
Kamulko

Trend-Micro does indeed leave remnants of itself on your hard drive after an
on line scan!!


C:\Windows\Downloaded Program Files -: ActiveX (HouseCall Control)
C:\Windows\AU_Backup
C:\Windows\AU_Log
C:\Windows\AU_Temp (Not temp enough)

Take a look for yourself


Thanks for the heads up call, I found them all and remove it, sheesh one of those files is over 3,000 kb  :o
Title: Re: Traces of antiviruses softwares after online scans
Post by: TedNelly on May 01, 2005, 08:00:44 AM
In all honesty I think there my have been a problem with the Trend-Micro on-line scan removal tool.

I am on dial-up and have tried to use Trend-Micro on-line before, being impatient I terminated before

it was correctly downloaded,this may have contributed to the problem. I feel sure that if I had allowed

for the correct installation the first time the removal .exe would have done its job correctly.

Glad I could be of assistance
Title: Re: Traces of antiviruses softwares after online scans
Post by: Abraxas on May 02, 2005, 06:47:49 PM
 It may be related to what system you have, but I have stopped doing online scans : Housecall, Panda, etc. because of the junk left behind. I'm running Win98 SE. and on dial up. ???  This was a month or so ago after reading that it was a good idea to use these scanners.
After running jvPowertools & Regcleaner (4.3.0.780) you could see lots of bits and pieces hanging around in the Registry from these scanners.
Title: Re: Traces of antiviruses softwares after online scans
Post by: Lisandro on May 02, 2005, 07:18:08 PM
I'm running Win98 SE. and on dial up. ??? 
Maybe, in this off-line computers, the better will have a second (backup, non-resident) scanner. But the user must know what he's doing to not mess the things. AntiVir and AVG (without the resident) or BitDefender (free) won't harm the system (again, if the user know what he's doing...).