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Title: Download.com Warning - Dangerous
Post by: Amgeek on July 27, 2013, 07:36:42 PM
I have just noticed that the Avast Software updater is now  using Cnet's Download.com to deliver the updates.

Download.com has long been know to "wrap" its downloads with dangerous (but profitable - for them) crapware (I am trying to be kind).
In fact, Download.com (and others) have been in the news this month (July 2013) for that very issue (including by Tom Merit - former Cnet employee - on "Tech News Today" and Steve Gibson during "Security Now".

While I do appreciate that it must be difficult to provide such a valuable resource (Avast) to so many for so little (free!) can you really justify sending these unsuspecting (and trusting) users into the jaws of the very people they, we (techs) and you (Avast) are trying to protect them from?

Who should I contact at Avast to have them change or remove these links.

Thanks
Ed Barnat
Amgeek.com

Title: Re: Download.com Warning - Dangerous
Post by: alan3333 on July 27, 2013, 07:58:33 PM
Amen to this post. Download.com used to be a great site however they have went woefully downhill and are utterly untrustworthy.
Title: Re: Download.com Warning - Dangerous
Post by: DavidR on July 27, 2013, 08:06:56 PM
@ Amgeek
Deliver what updates and what makes you think this is the case (e.g firewall logs, etc.) ?

Even if this is correct - If it is virus definitions, that could well be hosted on a download.com the download is controlled by the avast.setup function and the data downloaded is validated/verified.
Title: Re: Download.com Warning - Dangerous
Post by: Amgeek on July 27, 2013, 08:14:39 PM
I know it because I am seeing it ( for the past several days) with my own two eyes.
Just to check I have just gone to the avast on a machine I have here. I checked its software updater. It reports several available including one or more for Jave. Clicked on it and was brought here:

http://download.cnet.com/Java-Runtime-Environment-JRE/3014-2378_4-10009607.html?part=runtime_32

You try and and see for yourself.

Ed
Title: Re: Download.com Warning - Dangerous
Post by: Asyn on July 27, 2013, 08:18:50 PM
Clicked on it and was brought here:

http://download.cnet.com/Java-Runtime-Environment-JRE/3014-2378_4-10009607.html?part=runtime_32

The link is OK.
Title: Re: Download.com Warning - Dangerous
Post by: Amgeek on July 27, 2013, 08:21:39 PM
The "link" is not the issue. Where it takes you is.
Title: Re: Download.com Warning - Dangerous
Post by: Asyn on July 27, 2013, 08:28:51 PM
The "link" is not the issue. Where it takes you is.

The download is OK as well.
Title: Re: Download.com Warning - Dangerous
Post by: AntiVirusASeT on July 27, 2013, 08:35:52 PM
I believe Amgeek is saying that downloads from cnet contains adware due to their bundled installer.

I have not seen updates provided for softwares directed to cnet's website but i would indeed prefer the original software publisher's download page compared to cnet's.

Edit: Thus, to Amgeek, the fact that Avast software updater is directing to cnet for software updates is not right.
Title: Re: Download.com Warning - Dangerous
Post by: Amgeek on July 27, 2013, 08:38:21 PM
Asyn, did you read my original post?

Ed
Title: Re: Download.com Warning - Dangerous
Post by: Asyn on July 27, 2013, 08:38:42 PM
I believe Amgeek is saying that downloads from cnet contains adware due to their bundled installer.

Well, I downloaded and checked the file. Everything is OK.
Title: Re: Download.com Warning - Dangerous
Post by: Asyn on July 27, 2013, 08:39:27 PM
Asyn, did you read my original post?

Ed

Sure.
Title: Re: Download.com Warning - Dangerous
Post by: Amgeek on July 27, 2013, 08:49:48 PM
Then you understand that it is not the link or file that is in question but that the lambs are being sent into the lion's den to get them that is the issue and the question is who do we contact to get that changed.
Title: Re: Download.com Warning - Dangerous
Post by: igor on July 27, 2013, 08:54:51 PM
What Asyn is saying is that those files are not wrapped with anything.
Or do you see anything that is?
Title: Re: Download.com Warning - Dangerous
Post by: Asyn on July 27, 2013, 08:56:11 PM
Then you understand that it is not the link or file that is in question but that the lambs are being sent into the lion's den to get them that is the issue and the question is who do we contact to get that changed.

Well, I don't like Cnet/Download.com as well (because of the facts you already mentioned), but if you get redirected there by the avast! SU, you shouldn't have any problems.

Anyway, you can contact Avast here: http://www.avast.com/contacts
Title: Re: Download.com Warning - Dangerous
Post by: Amgeek on July 27, 2013, 08:56:58 PM
What I am saying, Igor, is that it is dangerous to send the unsuspecting to that site. Period.
Title: Re: Download.com Warning - Dangerous
Post by: Amgeek on July 27, 2013, 09:00:50 PM
Thank you, Asyn.

Title: Re: Download.com Warning - Dangerous
Post by: Asyn on July 27, 2013, 09:09:44 PM
Thank you, Asyn.

You're welcome.
But as Igor joined the topic you can talk directly to him. ;)
Title: Re: Download.com Warning - Dangerous
Post by: Amgeek on July 28, 2013, 03:28:34 PM
Thanks again, Asyn. Looks like I just did.

So... I will leave it at that in hopes that my concerns will be considered when next reviewed by greater minds than mine at "Avast Central" :)

Ed