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Title: Die, Dial-Up, die!
Post by: YLAP on May 16, 2005, 06:24:04 PM
Starting next month my time limited dial-up connection will be upgraded into unlimited DSL, so avast! forum - hold on! I'll come here for a long time!  ;D

PS. I'm not an expert, but i hope so that I don't have any problems with avast or kerio, then internet connection will be upgraded.  :-\ I don't think so!  ;D But until 1st of June, i'll be very slow with my old dial-up... :'(

 ;D
Title: Re: Die, Dial-Up, die!
Post by: xistenz on May 16, 2005, 06:37:41 PM
You only have 16 (agonizing) days left!  ;D
Title: Re: Die, Dial-Up, die!
Post by: YLAP on May 16, 2005, 06:41:10 PM
Seems to be long long days.... But after that - heaven! No more hell!  ;D
Title: Re: Die, Dial-Up, die!
Post by: xistenz on May 16, 2005, 07:00:47 PM
 ;D

If you have an old computer lying around, you can turn it into a linux router and connect your DSL to that.
See http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=13389.0
Title: Re: Die, Dial-Up, die!
Post by: YLAP on May 16, 2005, 07:12:20 PM
Thanks for link, but I've sold my 300 mhz oldie one year ago...  ;D My internet povider gives all dsl equipment for free, so seems everything included.
Title: Re: Die, Dial-Up, die!
Post by: szc on May 16, 2005, 07:51:13 PM
Congratulations Ylap !

Have a fast surfing !!! I'm enjoying my ADSL and I have to tell you... you'll be amazed how fast everything is.

@ xistenz - what are you experiences with self-built Linux-based firewall my friend ? I've read so many discussions about it, but no one said anything what are those experiences from the "first hand"...

Cheers !
Title: Re: Die, Dial-Up, die!
Post by: Hopismum on May 16, 2005, 07:53:53 PM
zoom zoom zoom!!    Congrats Ylap...  you'll enjoy the speed.     

On the occasion that I wind up using someones machine with dialup I get soooooo frustrated with it after being on cable for 3 years now
Title: Re: Die, Dial-Up, die!
Post by: xistenz on May 16, 2005, 08:14:30 PM
@ sZc

If you see this topic (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=13389.msg114266#msg114266), you can have a look at my router + firewall.

@ xistenz - what are you experiences with self-built Linux-based firewall my friend ? I've read so many discussions about it, but no one said anything what are those experiences from the "first hand"...

Its extremely satisfying knowing almost exactly how it works. You can add extra bits like virus scanning (clamav) etc which I believe you can't do with a purchased router. I have it set up so that all web browsing is content filtered (dansguardian), virus-scanned (clamav) and ads are removed (adzapper). I am planning on having all POP3 mail virus scanned and implementing spam filtering (spamassassin). All this before before anything reaches my home network!  :D. It also has an Intrusion Detection System (snort) and a proxy (squid). It even works as a router.  ;D

If you have an old PC lying about, I would suggest that you try it out. Its the best way to learn about it.
Title: Re: Die, Dial-Up, die!
Post by: szc on May 16, 2005, 08:24:26 PM
OK thanks, I'm always amazed with your simple-but-right-to-the-point explanations. No unnecessary blabing, just straight facts. Wonderful...

Yes, I have one spare system in my home, but I bought it for my wife, so that one is out of question. I'll see if I can find something else in next few weeks. This really sounds like highly configurable thingie... I would really like to play with setting it up. Best of all, you don't have to spend any of your precious system resources on your main machine. You have a "wall" that blocks everything and anything that is trying to reach your central system.

It's only... if we could just make it little bit smaller, and everything would work perfect... well, I was into computer cases modding before, so I don't see any reason not to start again.... hihihihi... I already have some crazy ideas... make something small as normal regular firewall/router or maybe little bit bigger... on that old system, we don't need floppy, CD/DVD burner, right... we just need one CD-ROM, few fans, motherboard, processor, memory, HD, Power supply, few cables and that's it...

I believe it could fit nicely into something much smaller than normal PC case... hmmmm...

Cheers !

EDIT: I wasn't able to connect to http://xistenz.homelinux.org:81

Is access disabled already ?
Title: Re: Die, Dial-Up, die!
Post by: xistenz on May 16, 2005, 08:29:28 PM
All that's needed is a CD-ROM to install smoothwall (unless you do it via HTTP), a small hard drive (laptop will do), power, any CPU, at least 64 MB ram and a network card. All the configuration can be done from windows.

Sounds like you could make money selling these things, Sasha! (Just send me the blueprints so I can sell them as well  ;D)
Title: Re: Die, Dial-Up, die!
Post by: szc on May 16, 2005, 08:37:09 PM
Hahaha, you're funny my friend... but, that shouldn't be too far from reality, although I would like to make money on some other people's great ideas...

Anyway... did you say that Linux is base of a whole project ? Unbelievable... I guess that thing should be much more secure than "normal" routers/firewalls we use everyday...

Another thing came up to my mind... just like you said... laptop... some old laptop. They sell them for as less as 60-100 dollars now. It doesn't have to be some hi-tech machine. Something with enough memory like you mentioned, and that's it... it's much smaller than normal PC case, and much easier than to go into modding of some case... hmmmmmmm.... hmmmmmm... my wife will go crazy... and you are the quilty one, you know that ? You started all this... what should I tell her now ? Why did you have to do this to me ? Why ?  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Die, Dial-Up, die!
Post by: xistenz on May 16, 2005, 08:42:39 PM
Have your wife listen to these,

http://www.5fm.co.za/downloads/fm/aletterfromronpart1.mp3
http://www.5fm.co.za/downloads/fm/aletterfromronpart2.mp3

I'm sure she'll be sympathetic to your cause.  ;)
Title: Re: Die, Dial-Up, die!
Post by: szc on May 16, 2005, 08:53:14 PM
Haha, those are good... and unbelievable clean sound (voice)... Thanks pal !

I was joking of course... I'm sure she will understand it. I will tell her: "...hunny, it's for our own security...", and if she still won't understand it, I'll tell this: "...this will protect our things... goodies... like your makeup for example. If we have that linux-thing, your makeup will not melt down... never, ever !"  ;D  ;D  ;D I'm sure that will make her say: "...oh well, I didn't know it's so useful to have it... what are you waiting, go and buy it..."

Cheers !
Title: Re: Die, Dial-Up, die!
Post by: Hopismum on May 16, 2005, 09:02:48 PM
*cut paste*       sending this all to Sashas wife..  Im sure she'll love it  hehe   lol
Title: Re: Die, Dial-Up, die!
Post by: szc on May 16, 2005, 09:23:30 PM
Please don't Connie... please don't... I will let you spank me again if you don't do that...  ;D  ;D  ;D

You did it once already... see here:

http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=13417.msg114298#msg114298

 ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Die, Dial-Up, die!
Post by: MFB on May 17, 2005, 12:27:41 AM
Wondeful, I got rid of dail-up last year.  Welcome  to the DSL family  ;D
Title: Re: Die, Dial-Up, die!
Post by: xistenz on May 17, 2005, 08:10:02 AM
@ sZc,

You're right, I can't connect to my router from university. Mmmm. Maybe there is a setting to allow access from the internet. I'll have a look when I get home.
Title: Re: Die, Dial-Up, die!
Post by: TedNelly on May 17, 2005, 10:04:34 AM



Just out of curiosity How much a month are you charged?  are there any download limits?
Title: Re: Die, Dial-Up, die!
Post by: YLAP on May 17, 2005, 11:53:41 AM



Just out of curiosity How much a month are you charged?  are there any download limits?

I have to pay about 8 Eur/month ( in my currency 26 Litas per month) + fixed charge of phone. In all it's about 12-14 eur per month.  On wokrdays i can use it from 5 pm till 7 am, and in weekends all day without limited time or download limits. The speed is 256/128 kbs. Sorry for my english.  ;D
Title: Re: Die, Dial-Up, die!
Post by: YLAP on May 17, 2005, 11:54:57 AM
Wondeful, I got rid of dail-up last year.  Welcome  to the DSL family  ;D

Yep. Thanks. Soon, very soon.
Title: Re: Die, Dial-Up, die!
Post by: TedNelly on May 17, 2005, 12:16:02 PM



Ylap  at 26 Lithuanian Lita that converts to about $12.60 Aust$ 12-14 Euros Per month is about $23.50 per Mth

Our costs are about $30 per mth with a 500meg limit if you go over you are charged more for the same speed

256/128 kbs
Title: Re: Die, Dial-Up, die!
Post by: szc on May 17, 2005, 12:34:08 PM
These are my results (ADSL):

(http://img239.echo.cx/img239/6056/untitled18xf.jpg)

$37 CAD / month... no upload or download limit at all. Connected 24/7

Cheers !
Title: Re: Die, Dial-Up, die!
Post by: xistenz on May 17, 2005, 02:51:17 PM
Sasha, I have unblocked port 81 on my router, can you try to connect again?

EDIT: Link Removed
Thanks
Title: Re: Die, Dial-Up, die!
Post by: szc on May 17, 2005, 03:07:51 PM
Just a second... I'll be right back...
Title: Re: Die, Dial-Up, die!
Post by: szc on May 17, 2005, 03:10:19 PM
OK, I just connected... see screenshot:

(http://img220.echo.cx/img220/659/untitled10zj1.jpg)
Title: Re: Die, Dial-Up, die!
Post by: xistenz on May 17, 2005, 03:13:38 PM
Excellent! What do you think of the interface?
Title: Re: Die, Dial-Up, die!
Post by: szc on May 17, 2005, 03:16:21 PM
It looks so smooth  ;D I think the name fits perfect. Yes, it's very neat, and I'm sure other configuration options are nice as well. Really feels different, almost like ordinary web page, not those stiffed ordinary router/firewalls configuration pages...

Also, I like the fact that everything is based on Linux... almost bullet proof...
Title: Re: Die, Dial-Up, die!
Post by: szc on May 17, 2005, 03:20:42 PM
I also like my D-Link DI-604 configuration page, but it's not as good looking as Softwall's... that's for sure...

(http://img233.echo.cx/img233/5787/untitled10bg.jpg)
Title: Re: Die, Dial-Up, die!
Post by: kamulko on May 17, 2005, 04:05:44 PM



Just out of curiosity How much a month are you charged?  are there any download limits?

I have to pay about 8 Eur/month ( in my currency 26 Litas per month) + fixed charge of phone. In all it's about 12-14 eur per month. On wokrdays i can use it from 5 pm till 7 am, and in weekends all day without limited time or download limits. The speed is 256/128 kbs. Sorry for my english. ;D
WOW!!! Is like a dream this price. In Italy we have high prices: my DSL  is EUR 29,99 month - Flat- unlimited traffic and time. We have many different range of prices 'cause it depends by the amount of the minimum granted bandwidth.

Welcome to the Speedy Communityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!! :-)
Title: Re: Die, Dial-Up, die!
Post by: YLAP on May 17, 2005, 05:11:13 PM



Ylap  at 26 Lithuanian Lita that converts to about $12.60 Aust$ 12-14 Euros Per month is about $23.50 per Mth

Our costs are about $30 per mth with a 500meg limit if you go over you are charged more for the same speed

256/128 kbs

Correction: just recalculated the price with current exchange rate in euros: it will cost me 7,53 + 6,37 = 13,9 eur per month. I was wrong! And I hate dial up, because minutes ago had problems with connection and had to restart my pc twice to detec my modem, because it is very sensitive sometimes.

 If you wrote right (500Mb) it seems to quite expensive. I have no limits on monday-friday 5 pm-7am and all weekends...
Title: Re: Die, Dial-Up, die!
Post by: YLAP on May 17, 2005, 05:15:18 PM



Just out of curiosity How much a month are you charged?  are there any download limits?

I have to pay about 8 Eur/month ( in my currency 26 Litas per month) + fixed charge of phone. In all it's about 12-14 eur per month. On wokrdays i can use it from 5 pm till 7 am, and in weekends all day without limited time or download limits. The speed is 256/128 kbs. Sorry for my english. ;D
WOW!!! Is like a dream this price. In Italy we have high prices: my DSL  is EUR 29,99 month - Flat- unlimited traffic and time. We have many different range of prices 'cause it depends by the amount of the minimum granted bandwidth.

Welcome to the Speedy Communityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!! :-)

Look at reply #29 . There is correctly calculated prices. Seems to be...
Title: PS. 1:30 what does it means??
Post by: YLAP on May 17, 2005, 05:51:57 PM
It is also mention numbers 1:30. I can't translate it from lithuanian description corectly. It is something said about limitations in foreign countries.

I would be very grateful for explanation in human language!  ;D

I've already found it!  ;D (2005 05 18)