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Title: Why is Avast free so bloated
Post by: rayi34 on September 25, 2013, 03:05:42 AM
I installed Avast on this Dell Latitude D610 Pentium M 1.9 running WinXP pro and I couldn't get the laptop to respond. This a freshly installed WinXP where I deleted the hard drive. I had a heck of a time uninstalling the latest free Avast. Once I got Avast uninstalled, I knew Avast was the problem because the laptop was responsive again. I am experimenting with other free anti virus programs.  I just helped a friend restore his laptop. I know it's an older computer but? I personally don't use such older computers anymore; I don't run anything lower than a DualCore and don't even run WinXP. But I have noticed that Avast has become very bloated and I really don't want to even use it anymore. I have been thinking of trying something else. I've used Avast for a long time. I don't know if it's because of all  the ads. It's almost like Avast has become what we are trying to get rid of. Sorry but it has to be said.
Title: Re: Why is Avast free so bloated
Post by: iroc9555 on September 25, 2013, 05:03:09 AM
No problems here in my faithfull XP workhorse. As you can see in the image just 10 MB of memory and no CPU usage with a bunch of windows open.

Where did you download your installer from ?  http://files.avast.com/iavs5x/avast_free_antivirus_setup.exe
Any other security program running ?
What firewall ?

To uninstall avast! just run  aswclear.exe (http://www.avast.com/uninstall-utility)
Title: Re: Why is Avast free so bloated
Post by: mchain on September 25, 2013, 04:45:47 PM
hi rayi34,

Also, did you check for any other a/v's, past or present:  http://www.avast.com/faq.php?article=AVKB11#artTitle (http://www.avast.com/faq.php?article=AVKB11#artTitle)  Use link to completely remove any left-over drivers from uninstalled a/v's used in the past, including any old trial versions that came with the system when new.  Reboot.
Title: Re: Why is Avast free so bloated
Post by: Bobblink on September 25, 2013, 05:08:39 PM
Running the latest version of Avast! Free here on a similar machine. DELL Latitude D610, 2GHz Pentium M and 2GB RAM. XP pro SP3 No problems with Avast! and for an old machine it flies  :)
Title: Re: Why is Avast free so bloated
Post by: Neeneewan on September 25, 2013, 05:28:11 PM
I had this problem with another free antivirus and my computer ultimately crashed. I have a new hard drive and someone recommended Avast. I've had it for a couple months now, and yesterday it was telling me I needed an update (even tho everyday I hear the voice in the morning saying Avast Antivirus has been updated).  So I clicked to update and it required a reboot. When I rebooted a screen came up saying something about DOWNLOADING GOOGLE CHROME AND THE GOOGLE CHROME TOOLBAR!! I canceled that and went in and uninstalled Google Chrome and the toolbar but ever since,  my computer has been acting strange, just like it did with the other free software. This really pisses me off. I think I'm going to have to get rid of Avast.  With the previous software, someone had told me it was a "bloated" software and now it appears that Avast is as well. So annoying.....
Title: Re: Why is Avast free so bloated
Post by: rayi34 on September 25, 2013, 07:53:30 PM
I don't know what happened and why. We are talking about a machine that was freshly reinstalled with no software added yet; but the one person who said he has a similar Dell Latitude D610 has 2 gig of memory. This one only has 1 gig of memory. I guess 1 gig of memory is not enough. So Avast must consume a lot of memory. I will leave it up to the person who owns this laptop to add more memory but I personally wouldn't spend the money to buy 2 more gigs.
Title: Re: Why is Avast free so bloated
Post by: aztony on September 25, 2013, 08:22:59 PM
I currently run avast on a Dell Dimension 2350 desktop, XP3. This pc is limited to 1Gb ram, and I have tried different touted lite AVs to get the best performance out of it. AVG performance was about the same as avast, Panda Cloud about the same, Bitdefender free had noticeably better performance, but the program was/is too buggy at present. 
Title: Re: Why is Avast free so bloated
Post by: Para-Noid on September 25, 2013, 08:24:06 PM
The cost of adding RAM is worth it since 1GB isn't that much.
I wouldn't use any machine with less than 2GB.
RAM is doesn't cost all that much. IMHO  :)

If you want to see bloatware check out CIS v6.2.xxxx.  ;D
Title: Re: Why is Avast free so bloated
Post by: Arnold72 on September 25, 2013, 08:26:22 PM
The cost of adding RAM is worth it since 1GB isn't that much.
I wouldn't use any machine with less than 2GB.
RAM is doesn't cost all that much. IMHO  :)

If you want to see bloatware check out CIS v6.2.xxxx.  ;D
indeed.
comodo is putting on weight as it grows older unfortunately.
Title: Re: Why is Avast free so bloated
Post by: True Indian on September 26, 2013, 12:42:33 PM
Bloat? What is bloat in Avast and CIS? Are there any useless features from end user point of view? NO is the answer.

Nothing is bloated its just some people's dilemma.
Title: Re: Why is Avast free so bloated
Post by: rayi34 on September 26, 2013, 04:58:01 PM
You just have to get a better computer to keep up. Now we can add 32 gigs of RAM and more in even newer motherboards. But lately, due to trends in smaller devices like iPhones, ipads, etc, hardware and software developers are thinking more in terms of making things less resource demanding. Everything adds up like pop up ads and so forth in Avast. There is always competition to make something take up less resources. But yes, bloat is someones dilemma.. I personally am frustrated with older computers and hate to work on them. Some people hang on to them. I recently bought a decent Dell Latitude Core2duo on ebay for $85 rather than spending money to upgrade older machines. Windows 7 runs core2duos very well for general use, rather than fighting with older Pentium 4(M).
Title: Re: Why is Avast free so bloated
Post by: Para-Noid on September 26, 2013, 05:08:54 PM
Bloat? What is bloat in Avast and CIS? Are there any useless features from end user point of view? NO is the answer.

Nothing is bloated its just some people's dilemma.
CIS v5.12   93.60 MB Download
CIS v6.3   204.34 MB Download

110 MB difference is not a dilemma?
Nope, it's bloatware.  :)
Title: Re: Why is Avast free so bloated
Post by: True Indian on September 26, 2013, 06:18:23 PM
Nope, it's bloatware.  :)

That is download size,no bloat lol  ;D
Title: Re: Why is Avast free so bloated
Post by: Para-Noid on September 26, 2013, 06:47:03 PM
Nope, it's bloatware.  :)

That is download size,no bloat lol  ;D
The download size "is" bloated indicating that the software "is" bloated.  ;D
Title: Re: Why is Avast free so bloated
Post by: cooby on September 26, 2013, 06:48:53 PM
I disagree on having to get rid of old or small XP because  Avast is "bloated".
Avast runs perfectly here, XP-Pro-Sp3 Pentium4, 1g RAM. Runs ok on Pentium3 with 500meg Ram, but that is slow by definition and xp-pro not even supported on it, though runs just fine.
Just defragment once a year or so, don't pile up zillions of security products, disable unnecessary windows services, don't let every installed program to run at startup, use CCleaner to get rid of accumulated trash and I hardly ever see more than 60-65% RAM use, 37% at most if not surfing the wild web.
Title: Re: Why is Avast free so bloated
Post by: Arnold72 on September 26, 2013, 10:29:47 PM
Nope, it's bloatware.  :)

That is download size,no bloat lol  ;D
Comodo is bloated.
Could you please explain why the latest update is over 200mb.Thats more than the actual program itself and yet its only an update.And interestingly there are over "200" bugs fixed..
What does this say about version 6.2?

It gets worse and is bloated.
Title: Re: Why is Avast free so bloated
Post by: iroc9555 on September 26, 2013, 10:48:41 PM
I believe that more than half of that size for the installer be Comodo or Avast! is the virus data base. Comodo download from fileHorse is just over 90 MB and when avast! opens its defs folder, it over 140 MB. I think it is about 70 MB in the installer but I might be wrong. So most of the installer is data and not extra programs to bloat it out.
Title: Re: Why is Avast free so bloated
Post by: Cast on September 28, 2013, 07:59:40 PM
Back on topic, Im currently using a Dell Latitude D610 XP SP3 with 1gb ram and I have no problems with it but not much is installed on it program wise, just openoffice, avast, adobe reader and thats about it.

Malwarebytes and ccleaner are used often enough as well.
Title: Re: Why is Avast free so bloated
Post by: Para-Noid on September 28, 2013, 08:16:30 PM
I believe that more than half of that size for the installer be Comodo or Avast! is the virus data base. Comodo download from fileHorse is just over 90 MB and when avast! opens its defs folder, it over 140 MB. I think it is about 70 MB in the installer but I might be wrong. So most of the installer is data and not extra programs to bloat it out.
With Comodo it's bloated. When you download CIS it has the firewall, av, dragon browser.
You are correct in that CIS has an in-program white list. Whereas avast uses the cloud, thus
reducing the download/installed software.  :)
Title: Re: Why is Avast free so bloated
Post by: autowah on March 17, 2014, 12:56:18 PM
I'm also experiencing the 'bloatation' of Avast.

Have been using it for several years now and it has always worked flawlessly.
But the last year or so it has become more and more a bit of a PITA, I'm sad to say.

Whenever I log in to Windows 7 (x64), Avast puts everything else on hold for a couple of minutes.
And the amount of pop-ups from the system tray has increased dramatically with all these commercials for Grimefighter and so on.

Updating virus definitions, especially considering it's incremental and I use my PC (Intel Core  i7 2.67GHz, 16GB, Intel SSD 320) every day with my 100mbps broadband, can't hardly be the only reason for Avast occupating all PC resources for several minutes at every log in.

I really hope that Avast will go back to their old philosophy; small, fast and so smooth that you never notice it.

Title: Re: Why is Avast free so bloated
Post by: bob3160 on March 17, 2014, 01:41:37 PM
I'm also experiencing the 'bloatation' of Avast.

Have been using it for several years now and it has always worked flawlessly.
But the last year or so it has become more and more a bit of a PITA, I'm sad to say.

Whenever I log in to Windows 7 (x64), Avast puts everything else on hold for a couple of minutes.
And the amount of pop-ups from the system tray has increased dramatically with all these commercials for Grimefighter and so on.

Updating virus definitions, especially considering it's incremental and I use my PC (Intel Core  i7 2.67GHz, 16GB, Intel SSD 320) every day with my 100mbps broadband, can't hardly be the only reason for Avast occupating all PC resources for several minutes at every log in.

I really hope that Avast will go back to their old philosophy; small, fast and so smooth that you never notice it.
You've received replies and some suggestions in your other thread. I suggest you check it out and follow some of the suggestions offered.
Knowing what happens on your computer and what programs do what at certain times can quite often clear up a logjam.