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Title: AVAST 2014 R2 Beta1 (9.0.2009)
Post by: sedina on December 02, 2013, 09:16:36 PM
Hi all,

We are more than happy to announce AVAST 2014 R2 BETA1 (build number 9.0.2009).

We're introducing several important pieces in this release:
* GrimeFighter -- performs a scan to identify ways to speed up, clean up, and better protect your PC.  GrimeFighter will run the scan and show you where you can improve the performance of your PC.  It then sedates your PC and performs all of the cleaning functions.  This need feature is a result of our acquisition of Jumpshot earlier this year.  It is an early stage integration into our user interface and we really need your feedback on it :-)
IMPORTANT NOTE: DON'T RUN GRIMEFIGHTER ON WINDOWS 8/8.1, ENCRYPTED OR RAID DISKS! WE WILL FIX THESE ISSUES SOON...
 
* SavePrice -- we added a new function to the browser plugins that helps you save money when you are shopping online.  It finds better prices for items you are searching for.  At the moment, Chrome, Firefox, and Safari are supported.  Internet Explorer should be supported in the near future.
 
* avast! tutorial -- for users who run avast! trials, a tutorial is now available explaining all the great things avast! can do to protect your PC
 
* Stream Filtering -- a completely rewritten function that is part of the new Web Shield launched in v2014.  The three main components of Stream Filtering are a rewritten scanner, new kernel mode inspection techniques, and a new HTTP parser.  All of these functions lead to more effective detections of threats
 
* Firewall -- most importantly, we the previous issues with Java have been solved.  The firewall should be more stable and with better compatibility with other network applications

Download locations
http://files.avast.com/beta9x/avast_free_antivirus_setup_full.exe
http://files.avast.com/beta9x/avast_pro_antivirus_setup_full.exe
http://files.avast.com/beta9x/avast_internet_security_setup_full.exe
http://files.avast.com/beta9x/avast_premier_antivirus_setup_full.exe

avast! cleaner:
http://files.avast.com/beta9x/avastclear.exe

Known issues
- Ignoring process or specifying “well know browsers only” has not effect
- Redirect settings in troubleshooting have no effect
- USB rescue disk sometimes fail
- avastClear not localized to all languages
- IE plugin compatibility problem with IE 11
- Some coloring issues in IE and FF plugin
- no localizations have been updated yet - so there are some English texts in non-English versions; that's normal, no need to report that

It should be possible to install this version on top of your existing avast! installation (all settings should be preserved).

Any feedback is appreciated! https://feedback.avast.com/response/add

thanks a lot,
Pavel
Title: Re: AVAST 2014 R2 Beta1 (9.0.2009)
Post by: GreggH on December 02, 2013, 09:55:46 PM
Installed over 9.0.2008. GrimeFighter displays multiple items, but does not tell me what any of them are. I won't use it if a) I don't know what it intends to "clean up" and b) I do not have a say in what it does clean up. I am also suddenly running in to Browser Cleanup finding something that it can't remove and it won't continue properly when I tell it to remove the item. It continuously comes up with it.

Gregg
Title: Re: AVAST 2014 R2 Beta1 (9.0.2009)
Post by: essexboy on December 02, 2013, 10:43:36 PM
An over the top install was queried by the hardened mode :)  But I thought it was safe to allow it through

Also experiencing the same browser cleanup problem, again hardened mode blocking it.  Disabled hardened mode .. still did not run

 
Decided to run Grimefighter as I know what it is and it stuck when downloading image ???

EDIT : Found a little popup under the Avast UI asking for a reboot.. Well hidden :)

Rebooted and 8.1 is not supported
Title: Re: AVAST 2014 R2 Beta1 (9.0.2009)
Post by: Staticguy on December 02, 2013, 10:55:54 PM
Hi Pavels

Will there be a fix for this issue soon as mentioned here http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=141125.0

Well I have come up with a workaround. Open up google chrome settings, click on extensions, and under AOS click options.

My question is why that wouldn't come up (mentioned above) when I just click on the AOS located at the top right hand corner and click on settings and it comes up as a blank page. I have sent a support ticket about this to Avast Support along with support ticket but haven't got their reply.

Support package is 20131127 0012 2838903305.zip and support ticket number is #GOY-238-41632.

I don't run beta programs as I use Avast at home and don't want to take any risks.
Title: Re: AVAST 2014 R2 Beta1 (9.0.2009)
Post by: DavidR on December 02, 2013, 11:22:48 PM
I have downloaded the 9.0.2009 build and will install over the top of 9.0.2008 on my XP Pro system.

However, I won't be installing SavePrice as I feel this has nothing to do with security. Now if this means that I have to uninstall the browser plugins because this is embedded and can't be disabled then that means the end for the avast online security as SavePrice has nothing to do with security.

I also have concerns about GrimeFighter as I feel this is more bloat in a security program (is this in the paid products anyway ?). I'm always wary of and generally advise against applications that say they will "to identify ways to speed up, clean up, and better protect your PC." For me these tweaking make your system faster are generally not worth the hassle.

So I will be doing a custom install as normal and may well be doing some culling.

EDIT: Install over the top went well.
Didn't see SavePrice mentioned as an individual so BrowerProtection not installed.
Didn't see GrimeFighter as an option, so I can only think my assumption that this is a paid option is correct.
Title: Re: AVAST 2014 R2 Beta1 (9.0.2009)
Post by: DavidR on December 03, 2013, 12:03:56 AM
Well Considering I really did have a bloody good search of the Installation steps and did a custom install specifically looking for GrimeFighter and it was not found, it was installed and has run. See image1, the items that were meant to have been installed on my custom install, no sign of grimefigher there.

I'm not impressed that it was installed. This XP Pro system is pretty tight, I don't have lots of cr4p installed or grime, yet it supposedly found 11 and it can supposedly give me back {P_JGB} on my hard disk.

I find both of these statements to be highly suspect - I have no idea what disk it scanned, presumably only c:\ which has a grand total of 12.3GB of data to recover X GBs is somewhat dubious. I don't like undocumented stuff like this that you have to take on faith, with no supporting evidence of what it found ?
Which pretty much confirms my thoughts on these speed up your PC type tools, snake oil.

My main issue is how did GrimeFinder get installed when I really went out of my way to make sure it didn't get installed ?
See image3 which supposedly shows GrimeFighter not installed, yet it ran!
Title: Re: AVAST 2014 R2 Beta1 (9.0.2009)
Post by: bob3160 on December 03, 2013, 12:08:25 AM
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=93544.msg1029629#msg1029629 (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=93544.msg1029629#msg1029629)
Haven't tried GrimeFighter and am still looking for SavePrice
Title: Re: AVAST 2014 R2 Beta1 (9.0.2009)
Post by: DavidR on December 03, 2013, 12:13:02 AM
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=93544.msg1029629#msg1029629 (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=93544.msg1029629#msg1029629)
Haven't tried GrimeFighter and am still looking for SavePrice

See my updated post, I didn't want to try it, it wasn't installed, yet it still ran.
Title: Re: AVAST 2014 R2 Beta1 (9.0.2009)
Post by: Staticguy on December 03, 2013, 12:21:26 AM
So i assume that SavePrice is integrated with Avast Online Security? To me SavePrice has nothing to do with security, so when the final version of this update is released I will not be installing the Browser Plugin via custom install.

Will Avast still protect me from web threats by using web browser without installing the browser plugin?
Title: Re: AVAST 2014 R2 Beta1 (9.0.2009)
Post by: Alikhan on December 03, 2013, 12:23:15 AM
It's best to get rid of the bugs and then add new features... these will cause more problems.
Title: Re: AVAST 2014 R2 Beta1 (9.0.2009)
Post by: Rohugh on December 03, 2013, 12:25:40 AM
Installed over the top of 2008,  download and installation went without problems.

The only setting that didn't transfer as far as I can see was my weekly scheduled scan.

In Statistics>Your Stats the network traffic graph is not working  (tried several reboots as that solved the problem in the last update).

In Settings>Update it shows "Connection not established"  (Attachment)

Will check it out further tomorrow as it is late here.  :)
Title: Re: AVAST 2014 R2 Beta1 (9.0.2009)
Post by: Rohugh on December 03, 2013, 12:29:03 AM
Further to my above post I had this pop-up.  I am not going to follow it up for the moment as I am not sure what it is going to do.  ;)
Title: Re: AVAST 2014 R2 Beta1 (9.0.2009)
Post by: DavidR on December 03, 2013, 12:39:47 AM
So i assume that SavePrice is integrated with Avast Online Security? To me SavePrice has nothing to do with security, so when the final version of this update is released I will not be installing the Browser Plugin via custom install.

Will Avast still protect me from web threats by using web browser without installing the browser plugin?

The web shield is the main protection against web threats
Title: Re: AVAST 2014 R2 Beta1 (9.0.2009)
Post by: avast@@dvantage77.com on December 03, 2013, 12:49:27 AM
Dear DavidR, I assume you feel like I feel about this?

More crapware!

Why don't we fix the problems 1st?
Title: Re: AVAST 2014 R2 Beta1 (9.0.2009)
Post by: propheticus on December 03, 2013, 12:52:21 AM
Good news, so far this beta's firewall seems to be behaving better. Since installing the beta ver.9.0.2009 I have not yet encounterd the high DPC latency spikes that I had with ver.9.0.2008 which caused audio crackling.
I'll check again after a few hours of uptime and after some torrenting & browsing to see if the DPC values stay at an acceptable level.


As said before, grimefighter can't be disabled via options-> tools. I'm using win 8.1 and it installed after warning be about possible 'grime' but upon running the boottime cleaning routine it suddenly told me it isn't compatible with my version of windows yet.... Why the hell did it install itself in the first place then? This windows version check surely could have been performed beforehand. Also, there's no way to uninstall it via the modify installation option.
How about you fix the current issues before adding new ones?
Title: Re: AVAST 2014 R2 Beta1 (9.0.2009)
Post by: Staticguy on December 03, 2013, 12:58:47 AM
Further to my above post I had this pop-up.  I am not going to follow it up for the moment as I am not sure what it is going to do.  ;)

I think this is what it does! Found a cute video about jumpshot (Grime Fighter) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXZ0bZV3fzk

 :)
Title: Re: AVAST 2014 R2 Beta1 (9.0.2009)
Post by: bob3160 on December 03, 2013, 01:00:57 AM
For me, Avast! Online Security didn't install.
That's also the reason I wasn't able to see it at work.
I removed the old version and installed the new version of this extension
by dropping the C:\Program Files\AVAST Software\Avast\WebRep\Chrome\AswWebRepChrome.crx
onto the chrome://extensions/ .
I now have version 9.0.2009.61 of that chrome extension running.


( This is a feature that some people may like but, I highly doubt that it can be considered protection
and therefore think it should be a free add-on for those that want it. )
Title: Re: AVAST 2014 R2 Beta1 (9.0.2009)
Post by: Staticguy on December 03, 2013, 01:01:37 AM
So i assume that SavePrice is integrated with Avast Online Security? To me SavePrice has nothing to do with security, so when the final version of this update is released I will not be installing the Browser Plugin via custom install.

Will Avast still protect me from web threats by using web browser without installing the browser plugin?

The web shield is the main protection against web threats

Well that's good, but it will suck if we don't install AOS due to social networks, Ad tracking, Web Analystics, and others being blocked in the AOS settings and protecting our privacy.
Title: Re: AVAST 2014 R2 Beta1 (9.0.2009)
Post by: bob3160 on December 03, 2013, 01:11:35 AM
So i assume that SavePrice is integrated with Avast Online Security? To me SavePrice has nothing to do with security, so when the final version of this update is released I will not be installing the Browser Plugin via custom install.

Will Avast still protect me from web threats by using web browser without installing the browser plugin?

The web shield is the main protection against web threats

Well that's good, but it will suck if we don't install AOS due to social networks, Ad tracking, Web Analystics, and others being blocked in the AOS settings and protecting our privacy.
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1386029375000-58508.png)
Disable what you don't want and keep the rest and also still keep the phishing protection
this extension gives you.
Title: Re: AVAST 2014 R2 Beta1 (9.0.2009)
Post by: DavidR on December 03, 2013, 01:18:03 AM
Dear DavidR, I assume you feel like I feel about this?

More crapware!

Why don't we fix the problems 1st?

Other than the problem with the auto update notifications issue I had no problem with 2008, for me I didn't think there was anything bloat/cr4pware.

Personally I think avast being a security company should keep their security programs security related. Any thing like this if included should be opt-in not installed by default. The more non-security related functionality the more people will complain of bloat, etc. Worse when you get something that you didn't install, yet runs.
Title: Re: AVAST 2014 R2 Beta1 (9.0.2009)
Post by: bikemanAMD on December 03, 2013, 01:27:59 AM
Is there a way to disable Grimefigther prior to installing in the future for 8.1, I got some encrypted flash drives so I guess i'll wait on installing at this point on the Desktop, will probably test a bit on the older laptop, and see how it performs. 

Personally I feel being a security company, Save Price should be an optional free add on, instead of installed by default as it currently is.  Been using Avast since version 4.5, so adding more bloatware oriented items I feel is gonna maybe cause more issues or more stuff to trouble shoot in the program

Plan to Eventually get an Android phone so I can use Avast Mobile Security as well, and feel safe surfing on the phone, and storing music files and such, but can't upgrade til 2015, so I guess for now will continue using Windows Phone 8

Which Version of Avast will Include Grimefighter? 
Avast Free?
Pro?
Internet Security?
or Premier

(Currently installed beta on XP Laptop, and so far don't see a sign of Grimefighter on that install)



Title: Re: AVAST 2014 R2 Beta1 (9.0.2009)
Post by: propheticus on December 03, 2013, 01:33:05 AM
The irony isn't lost on me... Avast becomming more bloated each update and then adding to the bloat: an anti-bloat grimefighter...
Title: Re: AVAST 2014 R2 Beta1 (9.0.2009)
Post by: Staticguy on December 03, 2013, 01:50:48 AM
So i assume that SavePrice is integrated with Avast Online Security? To me SavePrice has nothing to do with security, so when the final version of this update is released I will not be installing the Browser Plugin via custom install.

Will Avast still protect me from web threats by using web browser without installing the browser plugin?

The web shield is the main protection against web threats

Well that's good, but it will suck if we don't install AOS due to social networks, Ad tracking, Web Analystics, and others being blocked in the AOS settings and protecting our privacy.
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1386029375000-58508.png)
Disable what you don't want and keep the rest and also still keep the phishing protection
this extension gives you.

Oh that's sweet az  :D
Title: Re: AVAST 2014 R2 Beta1 (9.0.2009)
Post by: bikemanAMD on December 03, 2013, 02:24:57 AM
Ok Originally didn't see Grimefighter on XP Laptop, after finished a first scan it showed up, letting it run on that PC to fully test it, as really nothing important on the XP Laptop, and see how it behaves, so far got to Downloading image 99 percent, and that's where it stands for now.

Scan was clean as well

Title: Re: AVAST 2014 R2 Beta1 (9.0.2009)
Post by: DavidR on December 03, 2013, 02:36:31 AM
I now see why even though GrimeFighter wasn't installed/enabled it was run after installation and reboot.

Now you can get Grime Ads in the User Interface, attached image. Interestingly it differs greatly from the first GrimeFighter popup I got after it ran.
Title: Re: AVAST 2014 R2 Beta1 (9.0.2009)
Post by: Rompin Raider on December 03, 2013, 07:19:09 AM
Like essexboy, Grimefighter stuck downloading image (99%). Will try again.....
Title: Re: AVAST 2014 R2 Beta1 (9.0.2009)
Post by: frg on December 03, 2013, 07:49:31 AM
Would you please consider un-blocking the size of the avast main window?

This can become very annoying, when installed on small  computers, like netbooks f.i., that use 1024x600 screen
Title: Re: AVAST 2014 R2 Beta1 (9.0.2009)
Post by: Rompin Raider on December 03, 2013, 08:05:20 AM
Like essexboy, Grimefighter stuck downloading image (99%). Will try again.....
Ran fine and took about 30 minutes to complete the process; can't tell what it cleaned or refined. Still checking.
Title: Re: AVAST 2014 R2 Beta1 (9.0.2009)
Post by: miguelgrado on December 03, 2013, 10:08:43 AM
I don't want to install Grimefighter.. It should not be mandatory. I hope that the final version we have option to install it or not, nor do I want to install if you upgraded from the program interface. Not what i want and don't need it. Guys avast, i know they have good intentions and is welcome but have to give the option of doing it or not.. Thanks and if you can answer this question we have been a long time deliberating http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=140730.0
Title: Re: AVAST 2014 R2 Beta1 (9.0.2009)
Post by: hectic-mmv on December 03, 2013, 11:45:28 AM
Hi guys,

thanks a lot for the feedback with grimeFighter
- it is available in all avast! editions
- it is premium feature, will be offered under separate license, similar to avast! secureLine
- there are few UI issues - will be fixed
- also custom installation will be improved
- right now it works in a way, when you click optimize my PC, grimeFighter is downloaded first

Please feel free to try it and make your opinion.
really looking forward for your feedback


Title: Re: AVAST 2014 R2 Beta1 (9.0.2009)
Post by: propheticus on December 03, 2013, 11:51:34 AM
Scans, installs then reboots in linux environment and only then tells me windows 8.1 is not supported.... This check should be performed before installing.
Title: Re: AVAST 2014 R2 Beta1 (9.0.2009)
Post by: irongod on December 03, 2013, 11:55:33 AM
Dear DavidR, I assume you feel like I feel about this?

More crapware!

Why don't we fix the problems 1st?


 :o yep! I fully agree! ... they have tons of tickets in their Support System and the this forum is like a blob of complaints and problems since they introduce v9 more than 40 days ago!   .... and now I see that most of the "improvements" with this new build are modules to clean, speed up the pc and save money online!?!?!? of course I hope that the improvements to the Web shield and firewall will solve most of the issues, but still what's the idea behind including these unuseful (to me) features?? I already had doubts on the real utility of the SW updater (since many times resulted in error, or not updated timely)  ... can they just try to have a fast, efficient and light fully functional product instead of loading builds with these components that they do not have anything to do with Security!

It seems to me that (already after v7 and mainly since v9 was out) the AVAST guys are loosing the right direction in their products!!  :-[
Title: Re: AVAST 2014 R2 Beta1 (9.0.2009)
Post by: propheticus on December 03, 2013, 12:07:24 PM
Issue with developers wanting to prove their worth. When they would limit to the AV/security alone they would have far less (development) work to do -> less jobs/make yourself obsolete. Also partnerships with jumpstart (grimefighter) and other services are lucrative. Small chance they want to stop making (easy) money.
Title: Re: AVAST 2014 R2 Beta1 (9.0.2009)
Post by: Vlk on December 03, 2013, 12:48:20 PM
Guys, please let's start over here: http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=141743.0

This is the same build, but I think we didn't do a good job communicating the changes. Of course, the main point was to fix all the outstanding issues (and that's what we're doing with this build).

If you still have any kind of issue with this build, we would love to hear about it. Otherwise, please stay on subject.

Thanks.