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Title: Avast Grime Fighter vs. other pc cleaning tools.
Post by: Staticguy on December 10, 2013, 08:08:45 PM
Good morning folks  8),

Just a question that popped into my head. Is GrimeFighter any different from many other pc cleaning tools such as Advanced System Care, Revo uninstaller, and CCleaner.

In the past i used those programs to clean up my laptop from junk files and etc unwanted files and at the end my home laptop started to act abnormally, restart randomly at random times (system error at boot), and etc. So i had to re-format my laptop to fix those issues.

So from there I started to avoid those programs for cleaning up my pc? Will GrimeFighter be any different? I really hope 2014.9.0.2009 final version doesn't have GrimeFighter pre-installed and only available as a standalone/custom installation?
Title: Re: Avast Grime Fighter vs. other pc cleaning tools.
Post by: Rohugh on December 10, 2013, 08:15:51 PM
Good evening  (here)  :)

There is a lot of discussion on Grimefighter in the Beta forum - http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=141747.0.  From what I understand it will be a separate part/opt in or out of part of the new version.  If you read through that thread this has been confirmed by Vlk.  :)

At the moment it is something I don't want to have installed,  although we will see as the betas/RCs progress.
Title: Re: Avast Grime Fighter vs. other pc cleaning tools.
Post by: propheticus on December 10, 2013, 09:26:30 PM
BTW: Advanced System care is at least 50% bloat and uses stolen intellectual property (IObit has stolen MBAM's malware detection algorithm). I wouldn't recommend it.
Title: Re: Avast Grime Fighter vs. other pc cleaning tools.
Post by: Staticguy on December 10, 2013, 10:05:07 PM
BTW: Advanced System care is at least 50% bloat and uses stolen intellectual property (IObit has stolen MBAM's malware detection algorithm). I wouldn't recommend it.

Yes, I am fully aware of that since it was disclosed. I just want to get my question answered.
Title: Re: Avast Grime Fighter vs. other pc cleaning tools.
Post by: propheticus on December 10, 2013, 10:36:40 PM
I have no idea about grimefighter other than what Rohugh already answered. I'm in it the same: not something I currently want to use (if ever).
Title: Re: Avast Grime Fighter vs. other pc cleaning tools.
Post by: Arnold72 on December 11, 2013, 12:30:00 AM
BTW: Advanced System care is at least 50% bloat and uses stolen intellectual property (IObit has stolen MBAM's malware detection algorithm). I wouldn't recommend it.

That was certain signature databases.
I fail to see how this has anything to do with the advanced system care program.?

Does system care incorporate some sort of anti-malware engine.
I have never used their products as i dont need them.
Title: Re: Avast Grime Fighter vs. other pc cleaning tools.
Post by: thekochs on December 11, 2013, 03:45:11 AM
The only "credible" one: CCleaner
Also, absolutely the ONLY registry cleaner I would trust on my PCs.
Been doing this ALONG time and as stated above....most of these other programs cause more problems than help.
Title: Re: Avast Grime Fighter vs. other pc cleaning tools.
Post by: Eddy on December 11, 2013, 03:53:19 AM
I use CCleaner for the easy part of cleaning up things.
The rest of the cleaning I do manually since over the years I never have found any tool that does it as thorough as I do.

It is a fact that all those "cleaning tools" in fact do less than you can do manually.
They only make some things easier/faster for the user.
Title: Re: Avast Grime Fighter vs. other pc cleaning tools.
Post by: Ѕeeкɘя on December 11, 2013, 05:25:12 AM
I use CCleaner for the easy part of cleaning up things.
The rest of the cleaning I do manually since over the years I never have found any tool that does it as thorough as I do.

It is a fact that all those "cleaning tools" in fact do less than you can do manually.
They only make some things easier/faster for the user.

+1
Title: Re: Avast Grime Fighter vs. other pc cleaning tools.
Post by: Staticguy on December 11, 2013, 07:26:34 AM
Am and I know all Avast users are hoping the make Grime Fighter either a standalone download/custom installation in the next Avast version.
Title: Re: Avast Grime Fighter vs. other pc cleaning tools.
Post by: Staticguy on December 12, 2013, 04:02:05 AM
Is IObit Driver booster any good? I installed it and only updated one driver for my Intel drivers. It got installed, but I feared it would do harm, give random BSOD, or etc. So i decided to bring up the previous version of my intel drivers via IObit driver booster GUI by system restore so it will bring back my old Intel driver version. Then IObit driver booster bought back my old Intel driver version and I then restarted my laptop. I then checked again to see if it would detect a new version of the Intel that I decided to reverse into the old driver and again it detected that my Intel drivers are out-of-date. After that I uinstalled IOBit driver booster.
Title: Re: Avast Grime Fighter vs. other pc cleaning tools.
Post by: Staticguy on December 12, 2013, 04:13:50 AM
So am i safe from my laptop doing random things i.e. BSOD and etc, because I already did a system restore point for that Intel driver by making IOBit driver booster bring back up the old version of the Intel driver version
Title: Re: Avast Grime Fighter vs. other pc cleaning tools.
Post by: RejZoR on December 12, 2013, 08:40:28 AM
I wouldn't use anything other than CCleaner.  Maybe it cleans the least but for a good reason. Have been using it for years and it never ever caused a problem because of its usage. All other tools eventually cleaned something more than they should and they wrecked the system instead of fixing it. Not so with CCleaner.
Title: Re: Avast Grime Fighter vs. other pc cleaning tools.
Post by: Staticguy on December 12, 2013, 09:37:20 AM
So am i safe from my laptop doing random things i.e. BSOD and etc, because I already did a system restore point for that Intel driver by making IOBit driver booster bring back up the old version of the Intel driver version?

Yes/No
Title: Re: Avast Grime Fighter vs. other pc cleaning tools.
Post by: abruptum on December 12, 2013, 09:48:32 AM
I believe you are safe.I am also using Driver Booster without any problems.
Title: Re: Avast Grime Fighter vs. other pc cleaning tools.
Post by: Staticguy on December 12, 2013, 11:36:28 AM
Oh thanks for the confirmation! Oh really, how long you have been using it for?
Title: Re: Avast Grime Fighter vs. other pc cleaning tools.
Post by: abruptum on December 12, 2013, 11:59:45 AM
Since first or second beta version.I don't remember.
Title: Re: Avast Grime Fighter vs. other pc cleaning tools.
Post by: Arnold72 on December 12, 2013, 03:23:35 PM
Driver Booster and other junkware products like it are pure rubbish and will lead to issues eventually.There is absolutely no need to update drivers on a regular basis unless the drivers are causing noticeable problems.
Title: Re: Avast Grime Fighter vs. other pc cleaning tools.
Post by: Staticguy on December 12, 2013, 09:04:11 PM
Yeah I agree on you with that? Once the Intel drivers got updated, i immediately reversed the operation via Driver Booster to do a system restore only for the Intel driver to uninstall the new driver that got updated and re-install the old version of the Intel driver. That way, I know my laptop will not cause unnecessary issues i.e. BSOD and etc
Title: Re: Avast Grime Fighter vs. other pc cleaning tools.
Post by: propheticus on December 12, 2013, 10:29:52 PM
Driver Booster is cr*p, DevID does work kinda okay. Still caution is necessary when such a tool wants to replace/update drivers that are brand and/or specific for a certain product series (i.e. intel hd graphic drivers that are Acer laptop specific) with the default drivers from the device manufacturer.
Title: Re: Avast Grime Fighter vs. other pc cleaning tools.
Post by: Cast on December 13, 2013, 05:18:12 AM
Ive used Slim Drivers and most of the time never had a problem. Only update I had an issue with was a wireless card update that I just undid and it worked fine after wards.
Title: Re: Avast Grime Fighter vs. other pc cleaning tools.
Post by: Lisandro on December 13, 2013, 02:38:19 PM
Ive used Slim Drivers and most of the time never had a problem.
Is it still a freeware or you need to pay to download the drivers?
Title: Re: Avast Grime Fighter vs. other pc cleaning tools.
Post by: AntiVirusASeT on December 13, 2013, 04:41:43 PM
SlimDrivers is still a freeware, all driver updates are free as well, just that there is no batch update 8)
Title: Re: Avast Grime Fighter vs. other pc cleaning tools.
Post by: Lisandro on December 15, 2013, 07:35:21 PM
SlimDrivers is still a freeware, all driver updates are free as well, just that there is no batch update 8)
Thanks.
Title: Re: Avast Grime Fighter vs. other pc cleaning tools.
Post by: thekochs on December 15, 2013, 09:52:16 PM
IMHO the best cleaner out there is CCleaner.
http://www.piriform.com
They are Microsoft certified........been around a LONG time.
You can pay for the scheduler version or use the FREE.
I use the FREE and various times during the day I'll right click on Recycle Bin & run CCleaner instead of just "empty recycle bin".
It takes just a few minutes and since a lot of viruses hide in temp folder this ALSO helps out there too.
My "defense" on PCs is Avast 8 (hope to upgrade to v9 when stable), MBAM PRO (no conflict with Avast), CryptoPrevent and CCleaner.
This combo keeps me well armed against most things....and also good habits of not going or downloading what I should not.

The problem with new software like Grimefighter or others is that they cause more problems than fix.
Plus, the problems they can cause because of the nature of what they do can BRICK a PC.
I would never run a reg cleaner from any 3rd party but if you must use CCleaner's....it does good job and does not jeopardize your PC.
Title: Re: Avast Grime Fighter vs. other pc cleaning tools.
Post by: RocketNut on January 08, 2014, 09:31:25 PM
The only problem I have with Grime Fighter is the internet hookup it needs. I connected to web through a 4G USB port. I do not have a WiFi connect at home. Meaning I have to go some where that has a WiFi signal ???
Maybe the next version will not need a WiFi connection.
Title: Re: Avast Grime Fighter vs. other pc cleaning tools.
Post by: akm on January 23, 2014, 02:03:26 AM

Agree !!!
I wouldn't use anything other than CCleaner.  Maybe it cleans the least but for a good reason. Have been using it for years and it never ever caused a problem because of its usage. All other tools eventually cleaned something more than they should and they wrecked the system instead of fixing it. Not so with CCleaner.
Title: Re: Avast Grime Fighter vs. other pc cleaning tools.
Post by: Jonathan93 on November 29, 2014, 05:16:53 PM
The problem I have with grimefighter... I pay for Avast Premium and feel grimefighter should come with it free, and not for another $30 a year.
That just seems like a ripoff to me, and I'd never pay that.
Title: Re: Avast Grime Fighter vs. other pc cleaning tools.
Post by: sludge7051-x on November 30, 2014, 02:25:30 PM
I like the interface in IObit's Smart Defrag 3 . . . http://www.iobit.com/iobitsmartdefrag.php

They have things to buy under the Action Center tab, but there is no annoyance.

Previously, I was using the IObit Malware Fighter, also, as a second opinion on Malwarebytes, but it never found anything.  This was an extra 20 minutes of scanning that I determined I didn't need to do.  There was nothing annoying about it though.

Are these programs using hacked code?