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Title: New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: Vlk on October 12, 2003, 10:14:47 AM
Following is the list of new features to be included in BART2. Please feel free to give us comments and/or suggestions of what you'd like to see there. Also, we'd be interested in what's your concept of an optimal BART CD Shell?

Thanks!

• Event viewer of on-disk event logs (useful for finding out what went wrong)
• Registry cleaner
• "Services & Drivers" applet - for easier setting of service and driver options (basically a sophisticated reg editor add-on)
• Data Shredder - to reliably remove files and/or whole partitions from the disk. Useful e.g. when putting servers with confidential data away.
• Disk cleaner (Junk file remover)
• Virus scanning of all external apps being executed (to prevent the BART CD OS itself from becoming infected)
• New features in cmd.exe - especially support for findstr and fc.
• Network: ability to specify a fixed IP address (not just via DHCP)
• Revamped BART CD Shell

and maybe

• Utility for partition editing (ala fdisk or even PartitionMagic).
Title: Re:New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: igor on October 15, 2003, 11:37:54 AM
Don't know if it falls under Registry Cleaner or Registry Editor, but some kind of "Fix common associations" button would be nice to quickly repair invalid exe/com/... associations - left after a worm has been deleted only.
I know I've already suggested it - I'm posting just not to forget about it :)

And while we're at the Registry Editor - simulating HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet alias may be useful as well.
Title: Re:New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: ZombieKIL on October 28, 2003, 08:55:55 PM
Disk Imaging software or a way to add ghost32 or Deploy32

it would a complete recovery system then!! :)
 
Title: Re:New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: iNsuRRecTiON on March 07, 2004, 02:45:54 PM
Hi there,

one suggestion, ability to import .reg files, so that you can import a backup of a registry key or hive.

I have the problem, that I had backup an registry hive and now I can't import them when windows xp is running. An error message says that the import process can't be completed because of write permission or access denied :( (in use or so..)
So it's cool, when you can implement an import feature of reg files.

Another suggestion is that, I can use the BART tools with Barts PE Builder from this webpage: http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder
This builder can produce such a boot cd, when your are owning a copy of windows xp or above. So non-profit persons or groups have the ability to use your BART tools with low costs or for free (personal use), because no Windows OS license or something like that are included..

thx and best regards,

iNsuRRecTiON
Title: Re:New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: iNsuRRecTiON on March 09, 2004, 08:31:00 PM
...and of course a search function for the registry editor..thx!

best regards,

iNsuRRecTiON

(PS: I will join the betatest of BART 2.0 ^^)
Title: Re:New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: nicky on March 17, 2004, 11:41:29 AM
a partion manager like partition magic
please  ;D
good staf
Title: Re:New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: ctskerry on April 20, 2004, 09:28:55 PM
• Event viewer of on-disk event logs (useful for finding out what went wrong)
• Registry cleaner
• "Services & Drivers" applet - for easier setting of service and driver options (basically a sophisticated reg editor add-on)
• Data Shredder - to reliably remove files and/or whole partitions from the disk. Useful e.g. when putting servers with confidential data away.
• Disk cleaner (Junk file remover)
• Virus scanning of all external apps being executed (to prevent the BART CD OS itself from becoming infected)
• New features in cmd.exe - especially support for findstr and fc.
• Network: ability to specify a fixed IP address (not just via DHCP)
• Revamped BART CD Shell

Sounds good, anychance you guys can add something like Mike Lin's Startup Control Panel app or Windows Startup Inspector to BART?  It would be really handy to disable most starting apps when you're trying to clean up a system heavily infested with spyware and the like.

Kerry
Title: Re:New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: mayakovski on April 28, 2004, 12:03:45 AM
You want to make BART really rock my world???

Let me use Servant Salamander to burn my data to CD.  

That would be the ultimate in a recovery and Disaster CD.
Title: Re:New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: Vlk on April 28, 2004, 07:47:59 AM
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Let me use Servant Salamander to burn my data to CD.  

That would be the ultimate in a recovery and Disaster CD

I don't quite understand... You mean the capability of adding custom files to the CD? Or what does it have to do with the Servant Salamander?

Thanks
Vlk
Title: Re:New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: w0mbat on April 28, 2004, 02:15:37 PM
I have to agree that having the ability to burn files from the HDD from within the BART shell would be nice. Catering for all the different brands/models of burners would be hard. And then some would be wanting DVD burners supported too...and external USB drives.

Maybe support for USB Thumb-drives? Every tech should have one of those in their case. If more than ~500M needs backing up one's best off doing it to a seperate HDD.

A version of HiJackthis would be good.
As would a good spyware remover (ad-aware - spysweaper or such)
Something to detect keyloggers.

Of course putting commercial licences into BART puts the price up more, so freeware versions could be concidered?

Makes a challange to keep all that updated with the BART updates :/

Happy to beta test the Version2 to please.

Cheers

w0mbat
Title: Re:New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: Vlk on April 28, 2004, 03:22:35 PM
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Maybe support for USB Thumb-drives? Every tech should have one of those in their case. If more than ~500M needs backing up one's best off doing it to a seperate HDD.

There is support for it (and it really works). It's just not plug'n'play -- you need to have the device attached at the time BART boots...

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Of course putting commercial licences into BART puts the price up more, so freeware versions could be concidered?

Unfortunately this is not possible due to limitations posed by the agreement we have with MS.

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I have to agree that having the ability to burn files from the HDD from within the BART shell would be nice.

Support for this *will* be in BART 2 - although indirect, you'll have to buy an extra piece of software from a 3rd party (worth $29).

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As would a good spyware remover (ad-aware - spysweaper or such)
Something to detect keyloggers.

Well, yeah, your right... Maybe we'll make something ourselves -- it would be a nice thing to complement the avast! antivirus product, too...


Thanks
Vlk
Title: Re:New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: w0mbat on April 28, 2004, 04:37:18 PM
Well there you go. I should have plugged it in before boot  :o

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Maybe we'll make something ourselves -- it would be a nice thing to complement the avast! antivirus product, too...
This regarding a spyware cleaner or Keylogger detector?

Next wish.....
If there is room on the image file, in the BART CD Manager give the option for a path to a dir the local HDD that will be created into the BART disk? EG  "select path for dir to be copied" -> c:\toolkit
Then the dir toolkit (with all the files in toolkit) will end up in the BART CD image?
Maybe that could get around the M$ agreement?

Cheers

w0mbat
Title: Re:New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: mayakovski on April 28, 2004, 07:24:42 PM
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Let me use Servant Salamander to burn my data to CD.  

That would be the ultimate in a recovery and Disaster CD

I don't quite understand... You mean the capability of adding custom files to the CD? Or what does it have to do with the Servant Salamander?

Thanks
Vlk

What I meant is from the Servant Salamander interface I would like to be able to drag and drop files to a cd or dvd  burner.
Also like w0mabt mentioned the ability to install the BART toolkit to the hard drive, then if you only have on optical drive (burner) you could still burn to cd or dvd.
Title: Re:New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: mayakovski on April 28, 2004, 07:26:32 PM
Any idea when version 2 might be available?

Also how about the ability to run the sfc.exe (system file checker)?  THis wopuld make fixing systems much easier.
Title: Re:New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: .: Mac :. on April 29, 2004, 01:19:26 AM
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it would be a nice thing to complement the avast! antivirus product, too...
oooooo I would buy that for sure!  :D
Title: Re:New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: w0mbat on September 09, 2004, 10:04:57 AM
Still wishing for a startup modifier that will allow control over installed applictions from starting.

thanks :)

--Steve
Title: Re:New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: Cbruyland on October 04, 2004, 09:55:40 AM
Feature Request:

- The ability to download virus definitions from the internet to a ram drive, so I don't have to burn a new CD(-RW) of BART.

- Possibility of creating custom add-ons
Title: Re:New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: iNsuRRecTiON on October 05, 2004, 08:24:15 PM
Hi,

I think it is too late, because the final Beta v2 is out...,
but here my suggestions:

-A data wiping tool/data shredder is integrated and very useful utilities, but the Bootable Antivirus and Recovery Tool CD don't have a Recovery Software included.
Please integrate a File Recovery Tool, like FileRecovery Pro 3.2 from LCTechnology, ZeroAssumptionRecovery, GetDataBack from Runtime or Easy Recovery File Repair Professional from Ontrack, so that you can recover files from your PC with the BART CD..

-An unformat or partition explorer tool would be also cool. So that you can unformat an formated partition on your PC and that you can explore a damaged partition and save files from that partition to another..

thx and best regards,

iNsuRRecTiON
Title: Re:New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: w0mbat on October 16, 2004, 05:04:47 AM
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Please integrate a File Recovery Tool,


The problem with this would be that you must have a second HDD to move the recovered files to.
Assuming that most computers only have 1 HDD, it would make this feature unusable in that situation.

We use a dedicated machine with caddy trays for when we need to do data recovery with the required software.

Nice idea though......

--Steve
Title: Re:New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: Lisandro on October 16, 2004, 05:07:20 AM
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Please integrate a File Recovery Tool,


The problem with this would be that you must have a second HDD to move the recovered files to.

Won't be a second partition enough in this case?  ::)
Title: Re:New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: w0mbat on October 16, 2004, 05:25:30 AM
Hi T,

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Won't be a second partition enough in this case?  


If there is only 1 HDD with 1 partition (which is standard in most systems) and you need to recover data, the only option worth looking at is putting the drive into another machine as a non-booting slave.

If the object is to recover a file or many, you can not risk writting any data to that HDD.
If you try to add a second partition, file tables may be re-written and the file you may have needed to recover may be where the new second partition has gone.

BART is a great tool and I use it almost every day in one form or another, but I would hate to see it try to re-invent the wheel and try to be all things to all people.
It's core power is the ability to access a HDD cleanly and hopefully get the system booting again so that we can then use other tools if required to do specific repairs to the system.

Just the way I see it.....  ;)

** runs away and waits to be flamed **

--Steve
Title: Re:New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: Lisandro on October 16, 2004, 05:40:14 AM
If you try to add a second partition...

So, if the second partition exists since from the beginning it will be useful, won't it?
I mean, that feature could be useful if the HDD have a second partition before it get corrupted... Of course, I'm thinking just one partition is bad, not both (or more)  8)
Title: Re:New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: w0mbat on October 16, 2004, 06:13:26 AM
It could be, though I would not personally ever trust it as it's a logical partition. As in a software barrier.  For example it makes sectors 1-101 Drive 1 and sectors 102-200 drive 2.

Again though this is assuming a partition of enough size already exisits before the problem occurs and this is rarely the situation outside of us geeks who play with these things.   ;D

I would say 90% of systems arrive on the desk of the user with 1 HDD in 1 large partition. This is an even higher percanage when dealing with bussinesses.
It's amazing how most places never even consider that they may one day loose data. And how reluctant they are to spend $$ on minimising the data losses.

I still hold out for a 'startup modifier' on BART, but am glad later OS can run CD's in safe mode which gives the ability to install some apps and security patches without starting all the nasties.

cheers

--steve
Title: Re:New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: Vlk on October 16, 2004, 11:55:08 AM
BTW an undelete software (possibly unformat/recovery as well) is currently under development.

It's likely it will be added to BART 2.x soon.

Cheers
Vlk
Title: Re:New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: w0mbat on October 16, 2004, 07:09:58 PM
**w0mbat heads back to his hole**
Title: Re:New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: Vlk on October 16, 2004, 07:26:38 PM
Night night... ;) ;D
Title: Re:New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: Lisandro on October 16, 2004, 09:01:47 PM
BTW an undelete software (possibly unformat/recovery as well) is currently under development. It's likely it will be added to BART 2.x soon. Cheers Vlk

Vlk, how would it be? Like GoBack (from Symantec) of just a recovery tool for deleted files?
Title: Re:New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: Eddy on October 16, 2004, 09:06:39 PM
I think it is gonna be more like the options Handy Recovery is offering.

Personally I think it is a good choice to add something like that. After all it is not just a cd to scan, but a lot more and recovering delete files fits in perfectly in the purpose of the BART cd.
Title: Re:New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: iNsuRRecTiON on October 17, 2004, 11:50:16 PM
Hi,

ok, if about 90 % pc systems have only 1 HDD and one partition then ALWIL should integrate the ability to burn a CD(RW) or DVD(RW) in Windows PE, so you can burn your recovered files..
Or simply copy/recover the files to an portable device for example USB Data Stick/Device or something else..

Btw. the most persons and pc systems I know, have a min. of 2 partitions on the first hdd..

thx and best regards,

iNsuRRecTiON
Title: Re:New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: ssummit on October 19, 2004, 02:19:07 AM
When I was working with the original B.A.R.T., if I attached an external USB hard drive to the PC before booting into B.A.R.T., I could copy, via Servant Salamander, any file onto the USB hard drive.  Alwil had informed me that the XP version that they use on B.A.R.T., just like the full version of XP, has a built-in USB driver.  (I used this to backup data files prior to reinstalling XP onto reformated and re-fdisked crashed hard drive.)
Title: Re:New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: Vlk on October 19, 2004, 09:21:06 AM
ssummit, that is correct. The only limitation is that the OS is not plug-n-play compatible, meaning that the device has to be attached before the boot starts.

Cheers
Vlk
Title: Re:New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: xr600rr on December 09, 2004, 02:17:56 PM
I would like to see more Spyware Def's included.
Title: Re: New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: iNsuRRecTiON on February 18, 2005, 05:40:29 PM
Hi,

hmm, if you use BartPE, then you have the ability to use a plugin that gives you Plug&Play in Windows PE :-P

So please allow to use BART with BartPE, so everyone is happy :-P

thx and best regards,

iNsuRRecTiON
Title: Re: New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: iNsuRRecTiON on February 18, 2005, 05:43:30 PM
btw. Avast should have a look at Winternals Admin Pak 5.x and "copy" some features/functions to their BART 2.5 or BART 3.x :-P

The Administration Pak 5.x rockz :D

thx and best regards,

iNsuRRecTiON
Title: Re: New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: Vlk on February 18, 2005, 08:49:58 PM
Hmm, interesting.
What exactly do you find cool about the new release? Anything useful in particular?

Thx Vlk.
Title: Re: New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: iNsuRRecTiON on February 24, 2005, 01:57:41 PM
Hi,

here in this thread, you (vlk) said already, that recovery tools will be added to BART CD 2.0.
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BTW an undelete software (possibly unformat/recovery as well) is currently under development.

It's likely it will be added to BART 2.x soon.

Cheers
Vlk

And now? After many months, where are the tools? :(


Here are some example tools from Winternals ERDCommander 2005.

The following features are cool and useful, which BART CD 2.0 don't support:

-Possibility/ability to select what tools are on the final ISO Image.. (ERDCommander 2005 BootCD)

-Possibility/ability to add additional Mass Storage Drivers (OEM storage controller drivers that Windows XP doesn't natively recognize..) like SCSI, SATA, RAID or others..(drivers with txtsetup.oem files..)

-Possibility/ability to add additional Network Controller Drivers, that Windows XP doesn't natively recognize (Setup files *.inf..)

-Possibility/ability to access the Internet

-Integrated Crash Analyser Support and selection where are the needed Debugging Tools for Windows located.. (target computer or integrate files into ISO)
With Crash Analyser you can view and analyse dump-files (Windows dump files, which are created, if an bluescreen appear.. (*.dmp files))
With this ability for instance you can find out what driver, on the target system, produces that bluescreens or what drivers are not compatible/corrupt..

-A tool called Disk Commander that salvage data on your harddrive. It can recover files lost due to file system errors, incapacitated operating systems, and accidental reformatting or repartitioning, and deletion. (with or without assigned drive letters, allow backup of current partition table, so that you can restore it later..)

-A normal FileRestore tool, that search on an partition for deleted files.. (easy to use, because the search window is similar to Windows Search..)

-A tool called Hotfix Uninstall, that allows you to uninstall an Microsoft Hotfix on the target computer

-Ability to change an Windows Account Password on the target computer, if you don't remember your password or if someone change the password and you (Admin) need access to that pc..

-A tool called System Compare, that allows you to compare the local (target) system/computer with another remote computer or system root, scanning for differences and examining the resulting difference set. (useful if you have the same configuration on every or many computers in your organisation/network..)

-A tool called System Restore, that allows you to restore an "System Restore Point" on target Systems/Computers that have Windows XP or higher installed..

-A tool called System File Repair, that scan your Windows installation for corrupt system files. Similar to the Windows System File Checker, this utility walks through the DLLChache directory installed with Windows by default to insure key Windows files are not corrupt.

The help system/help files/help support is better in ERDCommander and you have mouse wheel support!
No mouse wheel support is bad, irritating, annoying and disturbing :P :(

And there are a several other useful tools on Winternals Erd Commander 2005.


There are other emergency boot CDs that allows you to update AntiVirus Program+Virusdatabase over the Internet, like BitDefender Boot CD (LinuxDefender)..


The bad ones:

The following doesn't support ErdCommander 2005 (and of course BART CD 2.0 :-P):

-Possibility/ability to add other Drivers, that Windows XP doesn't natively recognize, like Storage Drivers or others, that aren't txtsetup.oem files. (i.e. Setup files *.inf..)

-Possibility/ability to change the screen resolution, colors and refresh rate..


So now you know, why in my opinion Winternals ERDCommander 2005 rockz :P

thx and best regards,

iNsuRRecTiON

PS: You have integrated an rich text viewer (for your help file..), but this rich text viewer don't allows you to load another rich text file, thats bad :( Plz. integrate that feature ;-)
Title: Re: New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: ssummit on June 30, 2005, 03:28:30 AM
Another item would be the ability to go back to System Restore points.
Title: Re: New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: w0mbat on September 01, 2005, 07:59:13 AM
So.....  are there any of these wishlist items going to be incorporated anytime soon?

:)

Thanks

--w0mbat
Title: Re: New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: ssummit on September 23, 2005, 05:16:59 PM
Also, some sort of generic, or a whole host of specific, SATA drivers.
Title: Re: New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: w0mbat on October 10, 2005, 01:37:05 PM
Nothing heard in here from any of the Alwil staff about work on this CD.

Is there anything in the pipeline about suggestions users have made?

thanks

--w0mbat
Title: Re: New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: ssummit on January 23, 2006, 09:00:57 PM
BART will need some sort of a built-in set of SATA drivers as this will become increasingly important as more and more new computers with RAID capable SATA HDs (read Dell) no longer come with built-in floppy drives to allow loading of (especially Intel) SATA RAID capable HD drivers via F6 during a CD-based boot.
Title: Re: New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: HomeNet on February 22, 2006, 09:20:05 PM
BART will need some sort of a built-in set of SATA drivers as this will become increasingly important as more and more new computers with RAID capable SATA HDs (read Dell) no longer come with built-in floppy drives to allow loading of (especially Intel) SATA RAID capable HD drivers via F6 during a CD-based boot.

Yeah, I'm with ya on that one!  More & more PCs are being built with SATA drives.  I use several boot disks (BARTpe, ERD Commander, Knoppix boot DVD, ect.) and I've been having trouble with SATA disks.  Some of my boot disks have freeware/open-sourse apps that can repartition drives (very handy sometimes).....some use anti-spyware apps......some also have virus (Avast BART & a few others I have use McAfee = nasty!).  All these tools are great IF they work and without SATA support, these disks are as good a coasters for my beer.  (Actually, I hate beer; I'd rather have hard cider  ;)).  Simply put - SATA support is a BIG deal with these boot disks.

Title: Re: New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: egulbino on July 09, 2008, 09:48:45 PM
I would like to see, the password cracking utils.
Title: Re: New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: Lisandro on July 10, 2008, 01:02:57 AM
I would like to see, the password cracking utils.
Do you mean cracking Windows passwords? ???
Title: Re: New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: mamister on July 23, 2008, 02:53:01 AM
Mine is:

1. Allow to add in own SATA and NIC driver before building ;)
2. Good internet browser (K-Meleon)   :)
3. sfc.exe  :D
4. Password remove (like ERD commander)  ;D
5. When?  ???
6. Since Oct 2003 waiting until now..... :'(
Title: Re: New Features for BART 2.0 [WISHLIST]
Post by: tayaoms on October 19, 2009, 07:58:16 PM
Any way I can run only the registry fix on my computer? I just received the AVAST CD. Thanks - manny (tayaoms).