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Consumer Products => Avast Free Antivirus / Premium Security (legacy Pro Antivirus, Internet Security, Premier) => Topic started by: Vlk on July 01, 2005, 03:19:07 PM
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The update is now offficial (labelled as 4.6.691). No need to try any betas anymore. Thanks for anyone who helped testing. :)
Hi *,
here I'm again. An avast Home/Pro update is coming soon (my guess is in about 7-10 days) and as usual, it's my pleasure to announce the availability of a pre-release version of this update.
How to install it (for starters - most people already know this trick anyway ): simply download and run the following program: http://files.avast.com/files/beta/aswbeta.exe . That's about all it takes (provided you have the latest version of avast Home/Pro already installed, of course).
There is a number of fixes in this release and a couple of new features as well. These include enhancements in EXE unpackers (and all EXE unpackers are now supported in the boot-time scanner as well), fixes in WebShield (seldom crashes of ashWebSv.exe, malfunction of the "Save Link As" command in FireFox etc) and Inernet Mail (Calypso compatibility, news reading), added support for a couple of new P2P and IM programs (KCeasy, SIM, alTalk Messenger, Tlen), ability to suppress displaying of messages when playing games (as suggested by RejZoR) and many others...
Any comments on this release are welcome and appreciated!
Update July 8: a new beta refresh (4.6.689) has been uploaded
Thanks
Vlk
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Hi Vlk. I have a little problem , I can't download the beta version :(
I downloaded the aswbeta.exe file but it doesn't work.
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Same here. It runs fine,but then it says i'm already up-to-date.
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Classic. ;D
Sorry guys, should be fixed by now. Just rerun aswBeta.exe.
Cheers
Vlk
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Hehe, now it's working. Can't wait to test it ;D
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I'll try again... OK, works fine! Going to restart my PC! See you soon! ;D
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Now thats what i was talking about. Wicked cool ;D
Omg omg omg :o I love Alwil coz you guys actually listen to users!!!
Almost no need for AEC anymore hehe. Beautiful :)
Only "bug" i noticed is that when updated to beta version,i got this:
E:\My Documents\Virus Storage\*?:\Config.sys
My own Standard Shield exclusion was in the 7th line,but beta version "injected" another exclusion right into my own. I'm not sure if this is a bug which can be reproduced,but it got my attention...
Also some exclusion values are suppose to be hardcoded into avast!, but i see them (at least igor said that they are hardcoded (like C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\_AVAST4_\UNP*)
Ok,i just noticed that all exclusions are duplicated several times (4 times in my case!).
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Seems everything's good. I've noticed some new settings "copied" from avast! external control tool. ;D And new icons in resident settings! Nice!
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I don't know about Standard Shield icon. I kinda liked old one more. This new one looks like it doesn't belong there, if you compare it with Network or Web Shield icons.
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It includes support to Zango instant messenger?
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Vlk, will this new version include the fixes you gave me for the outbound email scanning upload speed issue (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=13678.0)?
If not, will you be able to update the patch for me so it will work with the new version?
Thanks,
Harvey
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Are there any changes related to the reported compatibility problems with ZoneAlarm Pro?
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It includes support to Zango instant messenger?
Seems not. To see all supported programs press customize on Instant messages provider.
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Vlk,is there any chance you guys will impliment all On-Access icons with same style?
Web Shield and Network Shield look like they are not from the same program compared to new Standard Shield and other providers icons.
Also there is small graphical glitch in splash screen (the one before you enter Simple Interface)
(http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/2014/glitchorig3gd.png)
Red marked edges look weird. Same was with official XP Luna,with Royal Theme and now with Studio 28 theme.
(http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/1026/glitch8os.png)
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Using Royal Theme. I'm not facing with this problem... ???
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Hey, how about a small X button on the blue message which appears once the update completes? And contex menu on the update's tray icon...with an option to cancel current update, or to show more info and stuff... :)
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I'm too lazy soo I'm gonna restart later, I must say I've been looking forward to this beta release. Also I wanna thank Alwil for todays VPS update, Keep up the great work. ;D
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is there any speed improvement?
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Vlk, will this new version include the fixes you gave me for the outbound email scanning upload speed issue (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=13678.0)?
I cannot say for sure, but I'd say that if Vlk improved the code, he also kept it for the new version - so I'd say yes.
is there any speed improvement?
I don't think so.
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Using Royal Theme. I'm not facing with this problem... ???
Yes you do. Look in the corners where i marked with red on my pictures.
There are some round shapes with shaded corners and edges.
It looks even more ugly with other skins.
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I don't know about Standard Shield icon. I kinda liked old one more. This new one looks like it doesn't belong there, if you compare it with Network or Web Shield icons.
I would have to agree here, as the squiggle in the middle of the shield could be mistaken for anything n, o, q, anything but the avast! 'a'
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Please add encryption for SMTP settings. This is a great risk since anyone can access them in avast4.ini file. Reading info there could be used to abuse password authorized SMTP servers which are otherwise used for malware submission from within Chest.
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Thanks for putting some feature of AEC on avast settings... ;D Just great... :D
The feature "Show results in Explorer Extension" doesn't show the results like in on-demand scan...
Another thing: why when we click on avast tray icon and click in "Program Settings..." the window doesn't have the skin?
Thanks for you great work ;)
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Please add encryption for SMTP settings. This is a great risk since anyone can access them in avast4.ini file. Reading info there could be used to abuse password authorized SMTP servers which are otherwise used for malware submission from within Chest.
I completely agree with this!!!
I didn't notice this security problem... :o
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Just noticed another glitch in Explorer extension scan Results.
(http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/4620/results0vm.png)
I belive that extra red text is missing. People don't know in which unit you count the total filesize. Also rounding to nearest bigger unit would be a good idea.
Use the following table on how to display total filesizes.
<1KB,use bytes
<1MB, use kilobytes
<1GB,use megabytes
<1TB,use gigabytes (but we don't need this one yet)
But if you can't realize this, just extra "bytes" text in the end of value should do the trick. And dot separation of decimal places for every 3 digits.
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Which are the improvements of version 4.6.684?
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Which are the improvements of version 4.6.684?
You need to read what Vlk said on the first page, he already told us the improvements of this beta release. :)
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Which are the improvements of version 4.6.684?
This is a beta release not a public release, so if you aren't prepared to accept that there may be issues (and be able to deal with them), wait for the public release. Vlk said about 10 days I believe.
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It shows to all the improvements that version 684 will go to bring? is there any speed improvement?
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is there any speed improvement?
Did you read the previous posts of this Topic?
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It shows to all the improvements that version 684 will go to bring? is there any speed improvement?
Read post 18# above.
Quote from: iwod on July 01, 2005, 07:00:24 PM
is there any speed improvement?
I don't think so.
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This new version anger to have improvement in the speed of scaning of the programs, and improvements in the detection of virús?
E when it will have a perfectioning in the boxes of updates, leaving prettier and friendly?
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This new version anger to have improvement in the speed of scaning of the programs, and improvements in the detection of virús?
E when it will have a perfectioning in the boxes of updates, leaving prettier and friendly?
Well, I ask:"Do you prefer quick scanning or deep and precise scanning?"; I don't understand this need for speed.
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I see my problem with the initial about screen is still there.
The first time I use about, it's blank as the picture indicates.
I still need to close that display and then select about again to get the correct display.....
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Yes you do. Look in the corners where i marked with red on my pictures.
There are some round shapes with shaded corners and edges.
It looks even more ugly with other skins.
;D Ok, Now I think I don't understand what's wrong... I can't see any changes in my splash screen...
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What happened with ashQuick?
I have set up a weekly scan using ashQuick.exe to scan the list of hard drives on my system.
Until today, it has been scanning about 200,000 files (allowing for my exception list).
Today, after installing beta release 4.6.684, I monitored the weekly ashQuick scan. It scanned 3514 files. For example the only files it scanned on the C: drive were in the folder Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4.
I reverted my system back to Avast 4.6.665 (to the point immediately prior to installing 4.6.684) and ran the ashQuick scan of my hard drives again. The expected about 200,000 files were scanned. I reinstalled the beta release and repeated ... back to 3514 files being scanned.
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Hello:
I have a couple of problems I did'nt have before installing this beta, hope you can help me.
1 - Avast's tray icon is missing
2 - the following error appears after starting the virus chest:
Inicialización de los archivos del baúl de virus
La acción se completó con errores.
El programa no puede utilizar el cliente del baúl de virus: (null)
--->Descripción: El servidor del baúl de virus (chest server) no está funcionando. Comunicación RPC fallida.
Inicialización de los archivos del baúl de virus
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El programa intentará cargar todos los archivos del baúl de virus desde el servidor: (null)
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La acción se completó con errores.
Transaltion:
it's something like:
initialization of archives from the virus chest.
the action was completed with errors.
the program cannot use the virus chest client: (null)
description: chest server is not working.
rpc communication failed.
initialization of archives from virus chest
the program will try to load all the archives of the virus chest from the following server:
(null)
action was completed with errors.
3 - resident protection was disabled when i started the simple ui, i enabled it
and after restarting the ui, it appeared again disabled.
avast 4.6.684
Windows XP professional, firefox 1.0.4
sygate personal firewall
thX
-- Mario
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I think this icon could be changed to something nicer. For eg look to ewido and avast icons. avast icon looks very old-fashioned. Like in times we all used Win98. ;D But it's only suggestion.
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me interest is in the complete sweepings, it would be very good if it increased speed of the sweepings, and the sweepings when opening a program, where avast is turning and alone later the program it opens.
Also to improve the boxes of acknowledgments, those that when avast brings up to date they appear in top of the bar of tasks, in my opinion would be better if they were beautiful, this would cheer the users very.
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I have set up a weekly scan using ashQuick.exe to scan the list of hard drives on my system.
Until today, it has been scanning about 200,000 files (allowing for my exception list).
Today, after installing beta release 4.6.684, I monitored the weekly ashQuick scan. It scanned 3514 files. For example the only files it scanned on the C: drive were in the folder Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4.
That's really very strange. How exactly did you schedule it? What is the command-line?
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Downloaded, played with, full scan done, VRDB generated. No difference noted so it must be working OK. As for the cosmetics I am of the school if it works it's OK..
Cheers guys..
EDIT saw this post tried mine out found the same problem. I will reboot and see if it reverts to manual update again http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=14730.0
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Edited Avast .ini to read Automatic for both VPS and programme. Saved, re-booted and it had reverted to manual again. Obviously the programme wants me to take a more active part in the update process???
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Well, since I'm on dial-up my settings in Update (Basic) started out as 'Ask when update is available' for the Virus database and Program and they have remained that way.
The 'Ask when update is available' is still technically an auto check/update you do have to click the box when notified though. Try that and see if that reverts to manual on reboot. If that sticks try changing to automatic again.
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Why changing through INI file if you can do it through menus?
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The 'Ask when update is available' is still technically an auto check/update you do have to click the box when notified though. Try that and see if that reverts to manual on reboot. If that sticks try changing to automatic again.
Tried it rebooted, still reverts to manual ???Why changing through INI file if you can do it through menus?
Because I thought that maybe the menu wasn't editing the ini file.
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Web Shield MIME exceptions are not remembered. I removed all of them,closed On-Access panel,re-opened it and went to MIME exceptions. They were there again.
I just can't remove them from the list,because they always get back.
This didn't happen in official version.
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Avast needs an improvement.
1- to make with this when avast to bring modern, will not be necessary to restart the computer.
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Web Shield MIME exceptions are not remembered. I removed all of them,closed On-Access panel,re-opened it and went to MIME exceptions. They were there again.
I just can't remove them from the list,because they always get back.
This didn't happen in official version.
The same problem. I've even got a lot of dublicates here. Tried to remove, but they are coming back again and after while I have 3 and more copies of each in the list, but I don't need any of these! >:(
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Ok,i have reproduced the exclusions list issue.
It replicates all entries each time you open exclusions list. This applies to both,Web Shield and Standard Shield exclusions.
Thats why i had all default values duplicated 4 times!
If i'd open that panel 5 times,i'd have 5 duplicated entries.
It's kinda serious bug.
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Yes, I have Standart Shield exclusion list also full of dublicate entries. Seems we have little bug here. :-\
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Where day is foreseen the new update?
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Where day is foreseen the new update?
Be patient, it will be announced here in the forums first. We know no more than you, based on the information posted on the forums, yesterday that was estimated was 10 days. However, this will be subject to successful beta testing and resolving any issues/problem found, like those discussed here.
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Update on the issue I reported earlier with using ashQuick.exe as a scheduled task (using WinXP SP2).
Command line in the scheduled task is:
"C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashQuick.exe" C: D: E: F:
the "Start in:" folder set to:
"C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4"
With these settings the scan has always previously scanned the complete C: drive.
With the new beta release and these settings in the scheduled task the only files scanned on the C: drive are those of the "Start in:' folder and its subsidiary folders. No other folders are scanned on C:. The other drives are scanned normally starting at the root directory.
When I modified the scheduled task and made the "Start in:" folder the root of the C: drive and ran the scheduled task again then the normal full scan of the C: drive was done.
In the beta release ashQuick is not really complying with the command line parameters.
Since it is the default for Windows to set the "Start in:" folder to be that of the program being scheduled this will mean anyone using the method described in this forum to use ashQuick.exe as a means of scheduling a scan in the Home edition could find their C: drive largely unscanned.
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How about graying out the sensitivity slider control in providers that don't use it, like network shield and web shield?
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Avast needs an improvement.
1- to make with this when avast to bring modern, will not be necessary to restart the computer.
avast necessary restart consider must otherwise old drivers on the system will updated get NOT.
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Ok,i have reproduced the exclusions list issue.
It replicates all entries each time you open exclusions list. This applies to both,Web Shield and Standard Shield exclusions.
Thats why i had all default values duplicated 4 times!
If i'd open that panel 5 times,i'd have 5 duplicated entries.
It's kinda serious bug.
Thanks RejZor it is reproducible on my PC too. Definitely a bug.
On the other hand - there are default values for e.g. MIME exclusion list and these values are inserted into the list when the list is empty. This is not a BUG, it's designed to be so. It has always been so (as far as I know). But I must admit that probably some kind of a RESET button might be a better solution.
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I definitely agree for RESET button instead. Or some kind of Power Mode where Web Shield would check all programs and all files regardless of their type.
Also please hardcode some exclusions like those for unpacked avast! temp files.
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Any beta refresh soon? I'd like to see if reported bugs are fixed :)
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Web Shield just locked me out all the sudden. Everything gave me Connection refused until i stopped and restarted Web Shield. After that it worked again.
I'm not sure what caused this,but it looks like Web Shield problem.
Can you check if everything is ok with Web Shield? Thx
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Sasha had the same problem:
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=14741.0
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Nope,mine didn't terminate. I also don't have any error entries in event viewer.
Web Shield service was running all the time,just connections were refused fo god knows what reason.
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argh that bugs i reported in wishlist are still there ... :(
(http://3web.dkm.cz/myie2cz/test/AvastBug01.jpg)
This is Avast bug in Exclusion list within advanced options of Standard Shield
- no chance to resize to see "complete" size of "exclusion"
- no chance to edit (double click / button "edit")
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Hi,
I have some problem with Web Shield (4.6.684). I changed to Silent mode and got back to normal mode but Web Shield doesn't really get back to normal mode, it still keep on pushing the infected files into Virus chest and there's no abort connection dialogue when a virus is found.
Thanks.
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Got 4.6.684 and everything is working good! ;D
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I have some problem with Web Shield (4.6.684). I changed to Silent mode and got back to normal mode but Web Shield doesn't really get back to normal mode, it still keep on pushing the infected files into Virus chest and there's no abort connection dialogue when a virus is found.
That is the point of silent mode it will move to the chest without the alert dialogue (allowing for Abort Connection). So in that regard it is working as it should, the fact that you can't switch back to normal mode is the problem.
This may be related to others with a similar switching problem of switching between Manual and Automatic Update, I believe they were using XML as the database method and had to switch to database=ODBC to resolve/allow switching back.
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- no chance to edit (double click / button "edit")
Workaround (not solution):
1. Test to space the two double clicks and it will work.
2. Some systems work with F2 to edit.
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the fact that you can't switch back to normal mode is the problem.
This may be related to others with a similar switching problem of switching between Manual and Automatic Update, I believe they were using XML as the database method and had to switch to database=ODBC to resolve/allow switching back.
I've changed the way avast! using database from ODBC to XML and everything works fine, the abort connection dialogue comes back as it should be. :)
Thanks.
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This is Avast bug in Exclusion list within advanced options of Standard Shield
- no chance to resize to see "complete" size of "exclusion"
- no chance to edit (double click / button "edit")
I told in the other threat that you can edit it, if you make three fast click not two
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Any new beta update? I'd like to see all those bugs fixed and re-tested.
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Calcul that's new tripple click wasn't working before for me (older 4.6 builds) for sure ...
thanks for info ...
anyway i still missing that "bar" slider to extend area to see paths as sometimes people have there "huge" ammount of entries ...
btw one strange thing .... today autoupdate checked for new build and downloaded again 4.6.665 even i got 4.6.684 beta installed ...
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btw one strange thing .... today autoupdate checked for new build and downloaded again 4.6.665 even i got 4.6.684 beta installed ...
Do you mean the autoupdate downloaded and installed 4.6.665 version over an existing 4.6.684 one? ::)
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That's weird, I just tried to check if there was a new program update and it told me I was up to date. If the original beta didn't change the flag to check for beta updates this may be the reason it looked for regular updates and not beta updates.
Occasionally there have times when the about avast and the version you actually have aren't in synch and a repair brought them into synch
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btw one strange thing .... today autoupdate checked for new build and downloaded again 4.6.665 even i got 4.6.684 beta installed ...
Do you mean the autoupdate downloaded and installed 4.6.665 version over an existing 4.6.684 one? ::)
exact i got that nice green message telling me new version out, i was like ooh new beta and boom i was back on retail ... ::) ;D
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I'm forced to go back to official build. This one has way to many bugs all over the place.
Exclusions are also totaly f. up,so its impossible to use it as you want.
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Exclusions are also totaly f. up,so its impossible to use it as you want.
Do you mean the autoupdate downloaded and installed 4.6.665 version over an existing 4.6.684 one? ::)
exact i got that nice green message telling me new version out, i was like ooh new beta and boom i was back on retail ... ::) ;D
This is the first time that the beta is not being 'corrected' and 'updated' so often... I mean, why to release a beta then? ::) :P
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I got the nice green pop-up but it only did a VPS update no dump back to regular release version.
I also tried a manual update and it said I'm up to date with 4.6.684, so it is recognising I'm on the beta version and looking for beta updates, weird ???
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I got the nice green pop-up but it only did a VPS update no dump back to regular release version.
I also tried a manual update and it said I'm up to date with 4.6.684, so it is recognising I'm on the beta version and looking for beta updates, weird ???
Same here! I did an update and the program said that i am already up to date (4.6.684).
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I can say this is the first BETA I ever had with so many bugs! >:( Especialy exclusion lists in Resident... sorry guys, hard to tell it... but it's bad this time. Looking forward to final version and hope that reported bugs will be fixed... :-\
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Yeah,but i'd like to first get fixed beta in my hands. Usually i used beta as any other version of avast!,but not this one. Ands no fixed version for long time...
I hope Vlk/lukor will report soon
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We've also had very little interaction from the Alwil team on this beta.
Usually, we report a problem and it's taken care of???
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They are obviously busy trying to resolve the problems, I hope ;D
I guess that is the joy of beta testing, it doesn't always run as smoothly as hoped.
Aside from the Duplication of the Exclusions list (I think I'm up to 5 duplicate sets), at first I only had Two copies One in lower case the other on Upper Case, now they are spawning more duplicates.
I have noticed that this also creates a wrapping of two exclusions on the same line, the Last exclusion in a Set plus the First exclusion in the next Set are on the same line (see image). I don't know what the consequence of this having two exclusions on the same line would be?
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I only had Two copies One in lower case the other on Upper Case
This is my situation right now... :P ::)
Little Alwil interaction :P
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Watch them spawn :o I think it will grow by one set each day/boot when avast starts.
Strangely enough the one I added d:\zeicartest\ hasn't been replicated, there is only one of those, but that may have been stuffed up because of the two exclusions one one line.
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DavidR,list back few posts and you'll notice something. Be focused on my posts ;)
Me and lukor reproduced this bug few bages back ;)
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I did see the bit about duplicates:
If i'd open that panel 5 times,i'd have 5 duplicated entries.
It's kinda serious bug.
But I saw nothing about the wrapping of the last and first line when the set is duplicated and that is really what I was reporting, which is what the arrows in the images were pointing at.
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btw one strange thing .... today autoupdate checked for new build and downloaded again 4.6.665 even i got 4.6.684 beta installed ...
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Agreed, I got the same problem today :( very weird
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Sorry for the lack of response, guys - we have some national holiday here, so people are mostly out of work. I'd expect more updates on Thursday.
From the previous posts of this thread, I can see two bigger problems:
- exclusions are corrupted (both Standard Shield and Web Shield, it's probably the same code)
- automatic updates setting is not persisted
Then, there were some other problems mentioned:
- some problems with Web Shield (happened once to Rejzor... might be very hard to reproduce); not saving the Silend mode status in ODBC?
- different behavior of Quick scanner
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Command line in the scheduled task is:
"C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashQuick.exe" C: D: E: F:
the "Start in:" folder set to:
"C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4"
alanrf, could you please try to change the command line to
"C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashQuick.exe" C:\ D:\ E:\ F:\
and see if it makes any difference?
Thanks!
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Igor
alanrf, could you please try to change the command line to
"C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashQuick.exe" C:\ D:\ E:\ F:\
and see if it makes any difference?
Made the change you proposed. The result was that the C: drive was fully scanned from root and all sub-directories. No change for the other drives which had been fully scanned before and continued to be with the change to the command line.
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So, if I understand it correctly, ashQuick behavior only changed for X: command line; previously, it scanned the whole drive (which would probably be the expected behavior for an antivirus), now it scans the current directory only (which would be the expected behavior for DOS tools, for example)... right?
I'll check what's changed and probably fix it to the previous behavior.
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Found something incorrect when switching languages.
You need to open Avast > change language > close Avast > reopen before it takes effect.
But when you right click the blue ball next to the clock the language isn't changed until you reboot the system.
The languages I use are English and Dutch.
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Well, it's not really "incorrect" - that's how it's supposed to work ;)
To change the language of the resident protection controls, it's necessary to reload the resident protection; the easiest way to do that is rebooting the computer.
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eddy this is relative simple , restart all Avast! services , kill ashdisp application and re-run it too ...
all will be now in new language ...
no need to restart
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Basically Log off and again log in should do the trick ;)
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I don't think so ;)
The processes started as a service (ashServ, ahMaiSv, ...) won't be restarted this way.
Sometimes even killing all avast! services/processes may not be enough - the Script Blocker module may be loaded in the process of your browser.
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Well,services usually don't carry interface itself (they are just "core"). So language should also be changed.
I guess,haven't actually tried...
I know it works for settings changed in avast4.ini file...
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Igor
So, if I understand it correctly, ashQuick behavior only changed for X: command line; previously, it scanned the whole drive (which would probably be the expected behavior for an antivirus), now it scans the current directory only (which would be the expected behavior for DOS tools, for example)... right?
I'll check what's changed and probably fix it to the previous behavior.
Sorry for the delay in responding. The simple answer to your question is "yes".
With versions of Avast prior to the current beta release specifying C: in the command line caused the complete C: drive to be scanned no matter what the "current directory" (determined by the "Start in:" directory for a scheduled task in my case).
It appears that the default directory for drives other than C: in this type of example is the root directory anway (no surprise).
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Sorry for the lack of response, guys - we have some national holiday here, so people are mostly out of work. I'd expect more updates on Thursday.
Seems no updates available for BETA.... :'(
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Sorry for the lack of response, guys - we have some national holiday here, so people are mostly out of work. I'd expect more updates on Thursday.
Seems no updates available for BETA.... :'(
Igor means VPS updates, not BEta updates
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No, I really meant beta updates ;D
I think Vlk will update the beta very soon... as far as I know, the reported problems have already been fixed.
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No, I really meant beta updates ;D
I think Vlk will update the beta very soon... as far as I know, the reported problems have already been fixed.
Thanks Igor for really great news! ;D ALWIL guys are best... Happy to hear about fixed bugs. 8)
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Well? I also hope exclusions wrapping issue is fixed...
Vlk,where are you?
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Still waiting for Lukor to fix the minor handle leak issue in WebShield... :P
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Ugh :P ;D
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Still waiting for Lukor to fix the minor handle leak issue in WebShield... :P
Ah, your back! I had posted previously in this thread about the outbound email scanning slow upload speed issue you had fixed for me.
(http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=13678.0)?
Can you verify if this issue will be fixed in the new release? If so, will I have to completely uninstall the previous version (including the avast4.ini file) and then install the new version?
If not, will you be able to update the patch for me so it will work with the new version?
Thanks,
Harvey
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Still waiting for Lukor to fix the minor handle leak issue in WebShield... :P
Hmm, I thought I'd seen some changes that looked like the fix... I guess it wasn't complete yet then :)
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hgratt, you don't need to reinstall / patch anything. The fix is included in the upcoming update, even though the custom line in the INI file is still necessary.
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OK, a new beta refresh (4.6.688) has just been uploaded... ;)
If you have the previous beta already installed, just invoke program update. If not, http://files.avast.com/files/beta/aswbeta.exe will bring you there.
Thanks!
Vlk
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hgratt, you don't need to reinstall / patch anything. The fix is included in the upcoming update, even though the custom line in the INI file is still necessary.
This may be a duplicate post - can't find what I thought I just sent!
Anyway, just to make sure that I understand you:
1. All that I have to do is allow the program to be updated?
2. Will the program update replace the patch files that I am currently using? I thought one of those patch files was there to prevenr overwrites.
3. Will the current .ini file be preserved or will I have to add back the custom line?
4. If a program update or new install creates a new .ini file, why would the custom line not be included?
Thanks,
Harvey
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1. All that I have to do is allow the program to be updated?
As soon as the update goes official, yes. Until then, you'd need to run the aswBeta.exe utility mentioned in my 1st post.
2. Will the program update replace the patch files that I am currently using? I thought one of those patch files was there to prevenr overwrites.
It will replace them. The file you're talking about (the .sum file) also contains version info. If we're updating to a NEWER version, the overwrite will take place and the .sum file itself will actually be removed.
3. Will the current .ini file be preserved or will I have to add back the custom line?
Sure, it will be preserved. The update won't touch your settings!
4. If a program update or new install creates a new .ini file, why would the custom line not be included
This file contains your settings. No update will overwrite it.
I hope this answers your question. ;)
Thanks
Vlk
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Re: ashQuick.exe
Confirming that with 4.6.688 ashQuick scan has returned to previous behaviour, completely scanning C: drive with command line parameter C:
Thanks for the update.
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1. All that I have to do is allow the program to be updated?
As soon as the update goes official, yes. Until then, you'd need to run the aswBeta.exe utility mentioned in my 1st post.
2. Will the program update replace the patch files that I am currently using? I thought one of those patch files was there to prevenr overwrites.
It will replace them. The file you're talking about (the .sum file) also contains version info. If we're updating to a NEWER version, the overwrite will take place and the .sum file itself will actually be removed.
3. Will the current .ini file be preserved or will I have to add back the custom line?
Sure, it will be preserved. The update won't touch your settings!
4. If a program update or new install creates a new .ini file, why would the custom line not be included
This file contains your settings. No update will overwrite it.
I hope this answers your question. ;)
Thanks
Vlk
Thanks Vlk. Just one further clarification on item 4:
What I'm trying to ask is that if one were to newly (that is, a person never having used the product before) download and install the new version when it comes out. then why would the custom line not be included in the .ini file since it also seems to be needed, along with your fix, to obtain the high upload speeds.
Thanks,
Harvey
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That's correct. By default, the "fix" (or rather say "alternative sending method" will not be enabled). We just don't have guts to do such a big change at once.
Therefore, to enable it, you will need to add the line to the INI file.
Thanks
Vlk
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I'd prefer Default button over forcing default values each time you open preferences.
Something like this:
(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3844/wsdefault4tr.png)
Same should be for Standard Shield exclusions.
I remove all Web Shield exclusions since browsing speed doesn't change for me in full scan mode (for example,NOD32 IMON slows down browsing very much),so this forcing of default exclusions is just messing up with my own preference of settings.
EDIT:
Oh,i'd also like to se that update tray icon shows ONLY on actual updates,not on every update check,even if it's "blank".
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You can always insert an exclusion like "blablabla" to prevent the list from being populated with default values (although effectively, this will have the same effect as having the list empty as blablabla doesn't sound like a probable URL mask...). Sorry RejZoR you're probably the only user who's crying for this feature and since it's not exactly a 10 minute work to implement (because of the internal structure in which the settings are persisted) it's quite unlikely we'll change it for now...
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Urg :( I hope that this will be planned for next major release...)
Anyway,do these default values get back when you open Web Shield again or they revert to default even if you don't open exlusions window?
I mean if i delete them and never open Web Shield exclusions again,would the list stay empty or would default values be there again?
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In short, zero list means default list. It's stored in the same way on disk.
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Ok,i used this as Web Shield MIME exclusion:
.:WEB SHIELD POWER MODE:.
I don't think that any MIME will match this hehe ;)
Thanks for the tip Vlk :)
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Can I set no exclusions on Standart shield or it's not recommended? ???
In short, zero list means default list. It's stored in the same way on disk.
Sorry, just tried. default exclusions set is restored every time I remove them all...
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Yeah, I try to remove the exclusion list from webshield, it came back. I wonder if this would decrease my internet speed if I remove some exclusions from Web Shield. :-\
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Fixer
Simple logic, remove exclusions means increas files to scan. The more files you scan, the longer it takes.
The longer it takes, the slower the web response....
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Well from what i have seen in Web Shield it works different than NOD32 IMON HTTP scanner. avast! intercepts specified ports with HTTP traffic, downloads all files to temp folder on disk and scans them regular way automatically and then sends them back to browser. Very simple and effective trick.
Because HDD transfer rate is in average 50MB/s this is very fast,also scanning is direct and as fast as Standard Shield.
NOD32 uses different method. They intercept HTTP traffic with LSP. Smaller files are scanned directly in memory,while passive transfers are transfered same way as avast! does. Only thing that bothers me in this part (and i don't know why) is that NOD32 renders pages much slower than avast! and if page contains lots of graphics (lots of smaller images) there will usually be corrupted or badly rendered web pages (mainly missing images).
So in theory and my little tests,avast! Web Shield downloads everything at the same rate of speed as browser would without it. So exclusions aren't really necessary.
And it's even more thorough if you check everything :)
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The good performance is achieved thanks to the "Intelligent Stream Scan" feature. Try disabling it, and you'll see the difference...
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Hmmm .... just tried that ... what difference am I missing?
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POTENTIAL SECURITY FLAW
Ok,there is another thing. It's not really a bug,but it's a possible rsecurity flaw.
You use string:
*\PageFile.sys
to exclude pagefile file. But here is the catch. Create malware with name pagefile.sys and place it anywhere on the drive. It won't be detected.
Star before slash means that it will be excluded in all folders. Not a good idea imo.
Now use exclusion string:
?:\PageFile.sys
Now thats something different. Pagefile can only be placed in root of every partition.
And since pagefile is a system file,it cannot be replaced or overwritten while it's in use. And any file named pagefile.sys in folders other than root of partitions will be detected.
BUG #2
Next thing that happened to me lots of times with avast! (not sure if limited only to this beta) that detected file triggers warning dialog. I select delete file and again i get the same warning for the same (already deleted) file. I click delete again and then i get cannot process file error. Then i click Ok in this error dialog and i get the warning dialog again!? This loops forever for as long as i don't click No action button.
I was testing security flaw above and i found that avast! appears to have problems only with EXE files (same file renamed to .sys was also detected and properly cleaned).
I'm not sure about other executables like COM,SCR etc...,but i can reproduce this bug on my machine with any EXE file in any folders.
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Re #2:
I really don't think the filename could make any difference to its processing... ???
In general, similar problems may be caused by "stored" archives (i.e. the malware is detected inside of an archive and also in the archive file itself). Unfortunatelly, it's not really easy to process such archives correctly. I'm planning to do some improvements, but it has to be done carefully (the change of the behavior may have bad consequences elsewhere).
I think, however, that some improvements were already done for the resident protection - so it shouldn't behave like you are describing. Can you send me a sample of such a problematic file?
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No,it's not an archive. It could be packed with runtime packer,but it's certanly not an archive (or SFX).
Ok,i have tested even further and i have been able to replicate this as well.
This infinite loop happens only if you copy file from excluded folder to some non excluded folder.
For example:
My excluded folder:
E:\My Documents\Virus Storage
I copied malware from that folder to desktop:
C:\Documents and Settings\RejZoR\Desktop
and i got that loop bug again.
Then i packed same malware to archive, placed it into some non excluded folder and extracted it there.
It got detected just fine and it was also cleaned properly.
So it appears that there is some kind of problem with exclusions.
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Hmm, I'm unable to reproduce that.
If I copy a file from an excluded folder to a non-excluded one and click "No action", I indeed get two warnings - but that's because the first warning is "On close" and the subsequent one is caused by Total Commander (used to copy the file) is extracting an icon from the file.
If I press Delete, however, the file is deleted immediatelly, no subsequent warnings.
Does the file get copied to the target folder actually? (if you press the "No action" button)? If yes, then it's not a problem with exclusions - if it were, it wouldn't be possible to copy the file because the access would be denied to it.
Do you use any special method/program to copy the file? Any special Standard Shield settings? Anything else that might be special?
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Nothing special,Standard Shield is set to Normal sensitivity (default,nothing changed)
And i use two extra exclusions,one for Recycle Bin and one for my malware storage folder (that Virus Storage path).
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And every time you copy a file out of this folder, you get a loop of virus warnings?
Are the virus dialogs (in the loop) always exactly the same? (exactly the same path in the "File name" field, same text below, ...)
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Yes,i get this loop every time. But only for .EXE extension. Detected messages are always the same and in the exactly same order. For example .SYS was detected and cleaned ok. Only thing that i noticed is that i had to use Refresh command on my desktop to refresh view,otherwise that detected .sys file just stayed on desktop (the icon). Maybe this has something to do with this bug.
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It sounds more like some strange interference with another tool to me... how about some behavior blocker, possibly even avast! one? It really works without any problems here.
I don't know... maybe you could try if File Monitor revealed what programs access the file before/during/after the copy?
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Ok,now thats strange ??? Now it works fine (i had one restart in between),except refreshing still doesn't get in place,so file appears to be there (you have to use Refresh and it will dissapear). Not sure if this is related to avast! or just some Explorer glitch (which i haven't seen before ???
What about pagefile exlusion? Will it be fixed?
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i think Avast! itself should autodetect "active" pagefiles and "exclude" them on the fly w/o being "accessable" in exclusion list ...
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Yeah,i agree for all Standard Shield default exclusions. Web Shield is difefrent,but Standard Shield could use such method. Just doublecheck the syntaxes when transiting to such "hidden" mode. We don't want any hidden surprises in for of *\pagefile.sys exclusions...
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There is something wrong with ashQuick. I checked folder full of malware to decide which one to submit it to Alwil (undetected ones) and i got this error after few processed files:
(http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/5622/ashquickerror4xp.png)
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I checked same folder with ashSimpl2.exe and got the same error (this time forashSimpl2.exe). But in this case avast! finished scan,showed Results panel and when i clicked Close in it,i got the error mentioned above.
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Please pack them all to an archive and upload them to ftp://cat.asw.cz/incoming
Thanks,
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Ok, i'm already uploading it. The package is quiet big (16MB). Some files are still in encrypted ZIP archives,because i made just a quick sweep for stuff that is not encrypted.
Use password: infected , to unpack those later...
First time i checked them with ashQuick i got warning for low virtual memory (i have over 1GB for page file on separate partition and 512MB of physical RAM) and after that error above. Every next time i didn't got any virtualmemory warning,just runtime error.
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Unfortunatelly, no error here :(
Can you please try to identify the problematic file?
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Yeah i tried,but when i removed it,next one did the same.
I can remember ztoolbar.zip was one of them.
I'll reinstall avast! now and try again...
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If you scan that file alone, do you get the same error?
Btw, you said the error appeared after a few scanned files. Of course I don't know whether you have the files in separate folders, but ztoolbar.zip would rather be scanned later than the others (alphabeticcaly).
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I have reinstalled avast! and i still get the same error. I don't know whats going on with avast!.
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OK, can you please try to find the exact file causing the problem? For example, by binary division of your folder :)
I don't get any problems here...
It would be rather strange if you didn't get the same error after reinstallaion...
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Got the exactly same thing in my sandbox running Windows XP without any service pack. Now i wonder whats wron on your end...
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Well, I'm afraid I really cannot do anything about it without the "bad" file :(
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I'm not sure if "bad" file has anything to do with it. Sandbox gave me the exactly same symptoms. First virtual memory warning,after that few 10 files tested and bam,thing dies off.
I went over same files with NOD32 and it didn't complained about anything.
I have restored image and i'll check same files with official release of avast!...
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How about Enhanced? If it crashes too, does it help if you turn off some packers (WinExec, for example)?
Also, check the virtual memory usage (of ashQuick, for example) in Task Manager during the scan - does it grow continuously, or does it jump up and down?
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Ok,just tried on perfectly fresh sandbox environment with official build.
Same thing,only th¸is time i got that report error to MS dialog. ashQuick crashed again,virtual memory as well and again on ztoolbar.zip ...
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Is there an UNPxxxx file in the <avast>\data\log folder generated?
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Yeah,there are two of them.
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Just send them to my email address please...
Thanks.
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Done
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Hm,i turned sounds on and noticed you changed a normal virus detected sound. Nice :)
Too bad others don't sound this good :(
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I'm starting avast from the icon menu... splash screen appears and nothing more :P
Any clues?
Of course, I'm on beta 4.6.668.
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I can start avast from the exe files on its folder.
It's set to start Enhanced Interface. Click the icon > start avast and then ashEnhcd.exe appear on the processes running but... sometimes it displays the Enhanced interface, sometimes not... :'(
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RejZoR, there's a new version uploaded now (689) that should prevent the program from crashing when deleting the viruses from the CAB archive. However, please note that it will not delete the infected files off the CAB file anyway as the archive is corrupted.
Thanks
Vlk
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No problem. I know only ZIP is fully supported (so avast! can clean files from them).
I have already updated it,but i'll test it tommorow :)
Just that crashing really scared me hehe
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No problem. I know only ZIP is fully supported (so avast! can clean files from them).
I have already updated it,but i'll test it tommorow :)
Just that crashing really scared me hehe
only zip? o.O thought 7z at least and maybe rar too :)
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I also certainly wouldn't say that only ZIP is fully supported (even though 7zip and RAR probably weren't good examples - I think deleting from 7zip is not supported and for RAR, it depends on whether it's solid or not). But they are certainly others that may be deleted from, and some even repaired (recompressed).
The particular CAB file is corrupted... I'll recheck (and possibly improve) the CAB support later ;)
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OK I have strange problem which v.665 don't had. In EUI not all scan information during the scan is shown. When I start scan I see info shown in picture 1, but if I pause and then resume scan all information is shown... Am I the only one with this "issue"?
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OK I have strange problem which v.665 don't had. In EUI not all scan information during the scan is shown. When I start scan I see info shown in picture 1, but if I pause and then resume scan all information is shown... Am I the only one with this "issue"?
The same here:
1. Start a task > nothing is shown :P
2. Pause it > info is shown
3. Restart > info stays there ::)
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Do you will put the "Web Shield Power Mode" option in the Web Shield settings?
Thanks
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OK I have strange problem which v.665 don't had. In EUI not all scan information during the scan is shown. When I start scan I see info shown in picture 1, but if I pause and then resume scan all information is shown... Am I the only one with this "issue"?
The same here:
1. Start a task > nothing is shown :P
2. Pause it > info is shown
3. Restart > info stays there ::)
So seems we found small buggie here! ;D
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Do you will put the "Web Shield Power Mode" option in the Web Shield settings?
Thanks
I second this. I just can't live without it. One simple checkbox should do the trick.
There is enough room for it in Web Shield's Basic tab just under "Use intelligent stream scanning" ;)
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Oh,now it doesn't crash anymore. I'm not exactly sure if it checks all archives,but it doesn't crash anymore and thats good :)
Also check entire archive. Some files were not detected.
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I just noticed you "fixed" the total filesize. Nicely done :)
(http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/2118/contextscn4dl.png)
Only thing that i still miss is a bit more organized filelist.
Right now it's a real mess.
(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/3215/filelist9bw.png)
I'd like to see something like Bitdefender does.
Files are nicely organized and they even have info if they were clean or not.
Something like this,but i leave other design ideas about this to you ;)
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The Quick scanner was never designed to be a full blown tool. Comparing it with BD's GUI is not really fair...
To get a full list of files (with actions taken etc.), you should use the regular avast GUI and turn on generation of report files.
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Yeah i know,but filenames are really "messed" up in ashQuick...
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Another thing about Standard Shield exclusions.
I see you fixed the pagefile exclusions. But where are the others? Or are they now hardcoded into avast! ? If so,i belive pagefile should be also.
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Vlk, any news about Ench UI? ::)
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=14712.msg125675#msg125675
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The other excelusions are gone.
The Enhanced UI glitch will of course be fixed, it was caused by a code added because of ADNM Console (the code of Enhanced UI and the ADNM Console is reused and this may sometimes be causing minor problems...).
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Don't now if it's a real bug ??? , but have a look ;)
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=14890.msg125761#msg125761
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Interesting. There is official version 4.6.691 already available,but autoupdater stil says i'm up to date ???
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OK, it's already an hour after v4.6.891 was released but I'm still on beta as it says I'm up to date. :'(
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Maybe it would be a good idea to move this thread into BETA subforum...
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Yep mine and my girlfriends is still saying 4.6.689 even tho front site say the newest is 4.6.691
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I had the same problem beta saying I'm up to date yet major geeks says v4.6.691 available so I downloaded it from there, when I ran it I only got the option to uninstall. So I did, the downloaded programme then installed 4.6.65 which then updated to the latest after going online. A bit convoluted or what. Didn't take long on dsl though.
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Well, yesterday I uninstalled 4.6.688 and went back to 4.6.665.
After the update from 4.6.684beta to 688 I believe it either didn't complete correctly or something like that because even after previously deleting the exclusion duplicates, I ended up with 7 duplicate sets. I tried a repair, etc. but no difference, so I decided to go back to 4.6.665 and wait for the official release.
I have just done a manual update 665 - 691 and it has worked fine, so there would appear to have been some problem with the 688 beta update as it should have switched from beta to official release as previous beta versions did.
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Why the hell can't i update my beta(4.6.689) as usual?
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So more or likely we have to unistalled 4.6.689 and download avast! again and patch it from there? ???
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I think I'm going to download new version from website and pump this BETA to the trash. >:( But after that I'll have to generate VRDB, make my tasks again, set all programs settings... >:( So my free time goes to trash too... and now I'm getting angry! >:( Worst BETA I ever had! Hope final version is better! :-\
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Yeah,this beta was the most buggy of all of them.
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I think I'm going to download new version from website and pump this BETA to the trash. >:( But after that I'll have to generate VRDB, make my tasks again, set all programs settings... >:( So my free time goes to trash too... and now I'm getting angry! >:( Worst BETA I ever had! Hope final version is better! :-\
What are you talking about? There should be no problem updating from the beta normaly. Wait a couple of hours till the updated version is distributed to all our download servers is this that much?
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OK, sorry. Sometimes I'm like a match. :-[ I'll wait guys. ;)
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Hang on guys, don't you recognise and accept the risks when using beta software ???
These are the risks you take with beta software if you aren't prepared to accept the risk don't load the beta. There are many other software products that insist you uninstall the beta before installing the latest release and in some cases for the beta updates too.
I think in the time that I have been using the avast beta versions, this is the only time that I have experienced any problems. Yes this particular beta session seemed very error prone, possibly the worst one in just over a year.
I didn't take me long to copy my avast4.ini file, uninstall boot install 665, shut it down and replace default avast4.ini file with the copy I saved.
However, that is beta testing and I'm happy to take the risk because in general avast's beta sessions have been relatively problem free.
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You are right. On the other hand I like BETA testing, how bad it was. ;D As ALWIL guys always solved the problems. I'll wait till tomorow before removing BETA manually. ;)
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Take it easy guys, it takes some time to send 20GB worth of data from Prague to Dallas. ;)
By the way, i somehow still don't get your ubiquitous comments about "the worst beta". What is that supposed to mean?
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We got spoiled by betas with minor bugs. This one had few big ones. Thats all.
But you managed to fix them so there is no real problem ;)
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Maybe I said it a bit too harsh. :-[ No hard feelings, guys! ;)
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As far as I remember, there were only two bugs in these betas:
- incorrect handling of default values in provider settings
- a bug in saving of the Use XML Storage check box setting
Plus the glitch in the Enhanced UI that I wouldn't even call a bug (someone who hasn't seen how it looked in the previous would never guess there's a problem :))
Or am I missing something?
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The CAB archives handling ;) Just kidding. Biggest bug for me was just exclusions bug and CAB handling that i found by "accident". I never really noticed XML relation to update checkboxes...
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The CAB handling was not related to the BETA - the code has been there for ages (since avast 4.0).
BTW, it should now be possible to update to the final version (4.6.691) from any of the betas. :P
I guess this is the right moment to lock this thread.
Adieu :)