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Consumer Products => Avast Free Antivirus / Premium Security (legacy Pro Antivirus, Internet Security, Premier) => Topic started by: MWassef on October 15, 2003, 02:07:34 PM
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I run Avast4 build 4.1.280 (only 2 provider, mail and standard shield) on a 4 years old machine, 300 MHz Celeron processor with 128 MB Ram :-[
I compared resources/memory of both Avast4 and eTrust 7 promo and attached the snapshot of each one..
I know that this was discussed before :-\, but could you -Alwil Team- please reconsider reducing the resources/memory usage of Avast4 ?? ::) ::) :'( :'( :'(
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eTrust's
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So, what exactly is the point? The 2MB difference?
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it is not just these 2 MB..
after an hour or so of pc usage I found myself using about 121/127.4 of my ram and have only 68% of my resources free ???
you know for old systems users like me, this resources/memory thing matters :-[:-\
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So you're telling that avast is constantly leaking memory in time? Are you sure it's avast?
It's quite normal that if you have 128MB of RAM, this memory will be in use. That's why you have that memory, to fill it with programs, right?
Vlk
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So you're telling that avast is constantly leaking memory in time? Are you sure it's avast?
It's quite normal that if you have 128MB of RAM, this memory will be in use. That's why you have that memory, to fill it with programs, right?
Vlk
most probably it is Avast4 ??? ???
I know it normal to have a memory full of programs..
but do you find it is normal to use 125.9mb/127.4mb of ram after about 9 min. of uptime and with only 2 IE windows open and only 2 providers of Avast4 are running as I said before.. ???
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Hi, Mina.
Actually, this was one of the chief reasons I eventually set Avast aside... the drain on resources. I've not given up entirely, but until I see some improvement, I'll continue with AVG. :-\
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I think you folks have a problem with Windows. Remove and reload Avast. DO NOT install more than one AV program. I have a 600MHz PIII running W98SE, W2K Pro, and WXP Pro (triple boot). Avast will pull a constant load of about 19MB of RAM if you use the default installation configuration. I don't see ANY memory leak with AVAST. The CPU load should return to 5% or less if the PC is idling.
F.
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I used to have a memory leak with Avast when Kazaalite was running, but, that was traced to Windows Updates. At that time, Avast pulled more than 20,000K of memory while K-lite was using more than 18,000K. Took out Windows Updates, Avast memory use went down to
16,000K and K-lite down to 16,000K.
Here's the interesting note -- I uninstalled K-lite, then reinstalled, but I turned off all Avast providers while reinstalling K-lite. Avast memory use now is only between 12,000K and 16,000K and K-lite memory use is below 14,000K. No leaks, no freezes, no crashes.
Idling, my CPU is 0% and Avast is pulling less than
12,000K.
Try f's advice to uninstall and reinstall Avast (might want to reboot after uninstall). If that doesn't help, try uninstalling and reinstalling programs which may be using a lot of memory. This will sometimes solve some conflicts. (I'm putting Windows Updates back in over the weekend).
Dave
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And minacross, really no offense but if I were you (or had your hardware) I'd definitely put away the wallpaper. Our experience shows that mere removing of such a colorful wallpaper can increase the overall responsiveness a lot, especially on weak HW configurations...
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@minacross
Would you be so kind and post your Startuplist?
You can use this software for ding so: http://www.tomcoyote.org/hjt/startuplist.zip
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Please excuse my blutness, but I am really getting tired of the same old complaints.
Avast uses what it uses and does a fine job doing what it does. It runs fine the way it is, and to reduce memory usage would reduce its' overall effectiveness.
I have Avast Home on an old ricky 300mhz, W98 machine with 128mb Ram which runs just dandy with Avast.
I found more memory usage from Zone Alarm than Avast.
The bottom line is if you truly are unsatisfied with Avast....then don't use it! If your other anti-virus software is more appealing to you....buy it!
If you examine your start up list, I bet you will find many programs pulling down the memory but it seems that Avast always gets the blame.
Avast uses what it uses...normally between 12-19mb depending on what it is doing at the time. This is hardly a ship-sinking amount!!!
Its' time somebody said enough is enough on this topic.
>:( >:( >:(
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And minacross, really no offense but if I were you (or had your hardware) I'd definitely put away the wallpaper. Our experience shows that mere removing of such a colorful wallpaper can increase the overall responsiveness a lot, especially on weak HW configurations...
Vlk, I'll try that..
raman and techie101, attached may startup list..
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Please excuse my blutness, but I am really getting tired of the same old complaints.
The bottom line is if you truly are unsatisfied with Avast....then don't use it! If your other anti-virus software is more appealing to you....buy it!
If you examine your start up list, I bet you will find many programs pulling down the memory but it seems that Avast always gets the blame.
Avast uses what it uses...normally between 12-19mb depending on what it is doing at the time. This is hardly a ship-sinking amount!!!
Its' time somebody said enough is enough on this topic.
>:( >:( >:(
techie101 ,
I am not unsatisfied with Avast4, just wondering if it could be better ::)
As you can see in the snapshot, I've a license of Nod32 v.2 . But I do trust Avast4 more than Nod32 ...
I am using Avast4 and going to use it as long as it stays free..
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Please excuse my blutness, but I am really getting tired of the same old complaints.Its' time somebody said enough is enough on this topic. >:( >:( >:(
Techie 101,
I hope you will also forgive my 'bluntness'. But personally I enjoy reading these comments and hope they continue. NOT because it is any kind of moan about Avast, because I too think Avast is the best. However, surely evryone is entitled to express their own opinions/suggestions/wishes in a constructive fashion. After all you will see the Forum header say's... "News: please feel free to ask any question about avast!" ???
Some things may be 'old chestnuts', but they do persist and I defy anyone to say that something cannot be improved and that it shouldn't be commented on from time to time.
Personally, I am more interested in seeing these resourses being released a little more quickly, so that W-XP can shut down quicker. But 'dare' I say it again in case someone else is tired of hearing it ? :( :(
Walker.
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Sorry minacross...
I do not see any reason to be worried with avast! memory useage. There are lots of previous foruns discussing this. I'm with techie 100% ;) Please, look my links to Freeware (http://www.avast.com/forum/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=834;start=new) or choose this for defragmenting RAM. I really recommend it FreeRam XP Pro 1.4 (http://www.yourwaresolutions.com/framxpro.zip).
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*Yawn* This is a tired old argument. One, RAM is very elastic. It changes constantly. Two, you have plenty of virtual memory allocated in case you run low. Three, RAM is cheap so look on Ebay. Four, Avast has better results than Etrust (which used to be free too). Five, contempt prior to investigation is a sign of complete laziness and trying to promote self-esteem that is lacking. Five, who gives a hoot!
Now, take away my Karma!
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Now, take away my Karma!
Didn't think you had it in ya! You get a "K" from me for standing ground.
(although I thought the $... was a bit much)
techie ;)
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You're right. I changed $ to hoot :D
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You should use Norton AV 2004 according to the NAV lovers it doesn't slow anything down. Forget worrying about that 25 megs of ram and go with the AV that never uses any resources.
;D ??? 8)
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I am not sure if I am mistaken by posting this thread or not ???
frankly, I did not expect all these negative replys :(
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frankly, I did not expect all these negative replys :(
You have to stay above all this( I hope it is the right english phrase). Your startuplist shows that you do not start much or useless Software, one thing you could try is to temporary disable you firewall to see if it disturbs with Avast. If not, you should use an other Scanner for your on access protection and use Avast only for on demand.
It is not easy to say what happens on your system, but if you can make Avast responsible for your problem, change your on-accessprotection, wait for a new release. Thats it!:)
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I am not sure if I am mistaken by posting this thread or not ???
frankly, I did not expect all these negative replys :(
Hey minacross,
I found it useful, keep it up. I'm not too proud to say that I learn something from all of the
posts here, including the comments in this thread.
It even had a good descriptive subject header, so anyone who didn't want to go over it
again, could have easily chosen not to read it if they didn't want to.
Thanks for the post and thanks Vlk for just nudging my brain into thinking about the
desktop using memory.
Walker
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You should use Norton AV 2004 according to the NAV lovers it doesn't slow anything down. Forget worrying about that 25 megs of ram and go with the AV that never uses any resources.
;D ??? 8)
Sorry doggeral. I think we do not agree with you. NAV is quite a non wellcome antivirus. I wont post here all my past comments about it (if anybody want to read something, try a search in these foruns: http://www.avast.com/forum/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=1335;start=msg7498#msg7498)
Minacross, try a look at http://www.avast.com/forum/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=1436;start=msg8505#msg8505 and http://www.avast.com/forum/index.php?board=1;action=post;threadid=777
You do not regret posting anything here. We always learn and sometimes teach ;D
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You should use Norton AV 2004 according to the NAV lovers it doesn't slow anything down. Forget worrying about that 25 megs of ram and go with the AV that never uses any resources.
;D ??? 8)
Sorry doggeral. I think we do not agree with you. NAV is quite a non wellcome antivirus. I wont post here all my past comments about it (if anybody want to read something, try a search in these foruns: http://www.avast.com/forum/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=1335;start=msg7498#msg7498)
Minacross, try a look at http://www.avast.com/forum/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=1436;start=msg8505#msg8505 and http://www.avast.com/forum/index.php?board=1;action=post;threadid=777
You do not regret posting anything here. We always learn and sometimes teach ;D
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You should use Norton AV 2004 according to the NAV lovers it doesn't slow anything down. Forget worrying about that 25 megs of ram and go with the AV that never uses any resources.
;D ??? 8)
An av that does not use any resources...
Maybe you are kidding with us. No resources, no way, does not work, does not exists, or do nothing...
It will be a very suffering affair to you trying to convince us to use Norton. Is up too you but you´ll be alone at avast! foruns... ;D
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thanx raman,walker and technical for your support.. ;D
don't worry, I am an Avast4 addict.. ;D ;D ;D
you can't get rid of me that easy ;) ;)
BTW, who took 2 karmas of mine :( :( :( :(
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I would never take Karma from you. I know what it feels like :(
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I would never take Karma from you. I know what it feels like :(
I was not suspecting you or anyone else in particular :-\
Just upset to lose 2 of my Karmas :'( :'(
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Hey minacross, I wouldn't take them away, but have a karma from me anyway.
Walker.
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Hey minacross, I wouldn't take them away, but have a karma from me anyway.
Walker.
thanx Walker ;D
BTW, I still have only 2 karmas ;)
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thanx Walker ;D
BTW, I still have only 2 karmas ;)
You had three when I added one ! ???
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quit stealing minacross's karma >:(
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Boys,
STOP THAT NOW!
This is an antivirus support forum. All of you are clearly off-topic and that will be not tolerated anymore. Say something about karma again and I will delete your posts. >:( >:(
To me it seems you're annoying other users with your karma begging.
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Hardware:
CPU Celeron 600 MHz
RAM 64 MB
VGA 8 shared
OS:
Windows Me
Software:
Memory Mechanic from System Mechanic 4.0 b
NOTE:
Swap file size (fixed) 128 MB
How did I test?
McAfee was loaded with default set of options. Avast! 4 home was loaded with 4 out of 5 providers (all but Outlook/Exchange provider). Since hardware resources were so scarce and Windows Me was so notorious of its poor memory management, I did 2 passes of memory recovery and one pass of memory defragging. After that, I waited for blue line (Free RAM) to become perfectly flat and that was considered as "stationary" state. CPU usage fluctuated even in "stationary" state, so as "stationary" state for CPU usage I took position of horizontal yellow line.
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Sorry doggeral. I think we do not agree with you. NAV is quite a non wellcome antivirus. I wont post here all my past comments about it (if anybody want to read something, try a search in these foruns: http://www.avast.com/forum/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=1335;start=msg7498#msg7498)
Minacross, try a look at http://www.avast.com/forum/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=1436;start=msg8505#msg8505 and http://www.avast.com/forum/index.php?board=1;action=post;threadid=777
You do not regret posting anything here. We always learn and sometimes teach
Sigh ..... Sarcasm is lost all too often in this world....
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Can we post about our karma on the "General Topics" forum?
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Can we post about our k@rma on the "General Topics" forum?
Hehe, nice trick with the @ ;D
Probably (unfortunately?? :-X) yes, given the description on the front page.
This forum:
avast! 4 Home/Pro topics and issues
General Topics:
anything and everything about this board.
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Boys,
STOP THAT NOW!
This is an antivirus support forum. All of you are clearly off-topic and that will be not tolerated anymore. Say something about k@rma again and I will delete your posts. >:( >:(
To me it seems you're annoying other users with your k@rma begging.
kubecj,
I do not beg for Karmas >:(
I started this thread to discuss some problem I am facing, and not to beg for karmas :(
if I am annoying other users with my posts, may be it is the time to consider stopping visiting this forum :'( :'(
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If I am annoying other users with my posts, may be it is the time to consider stopping visiting this forum :'( :'(
Mina, don't take the things like this. You and your posts are wellcome. I'm just thinking that Vlk and Kubecj are right to stop annoying messages of 'karma'. Folks, use the IM messages for this.
About your RAM, I cannot conect avast! directly with this trouble. What I know I have already posted in foruns (http://www.avast.com/forum/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=777;start=msg4686#msg4686): Tests on new Beta version of Norton and McAfee Antivirus in a Pentium 4, 1,4GHz e HDD at 5.400 RPM give this:
Norton eats 46Mb RAM
McAfee eats 29,1 Mb RAM
avast 4.0 just 11,1 Mb RAM
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I do not beg for k@rmas >:(
I started this thread to discuss some problem I am facing, and not to beg for k@rmas :(
It's ok, don't worry. What kubecj tried to say is that let's take karmas less seriously than in the last week :). Currently I placed that word among the censored words (replacing the a with @ :) :) ).
I do not like the who took my karma away and similar stuff. Next time I will be forced to ban the word karma totally or to disable karmas at all ;) (but I hope it will not be necessary - it's quite fun - nothing more or less).
Hope this helps to clear the things up a little bit
Pavel
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I do not beg for k@rmas >:(
I started this thread to discuss some problem I am facing, and not to beg for k@rmas :(
It's ok, don't worry. What kubecj tried to say is that let's take k@rmas less seriously than in the last week :). Currently I placed that word among the censored words (replacing the a with @ :) :) ).
I do not like the who took my k@rma away and similar stuff. Next time I will be forced to ban the word k@rma totally or to disable k@rmas at all ;) (but I hope it will not be necessary - it's quite fun - nothing more or less).
Hope this helps to clear the things up a little bit
Pavel
I apologize for the "who took my k@rma away" thing :-[
thanx Pavel ;D
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Can we post about our k@rma on the "General Topics" forum?
Hehe, nice trick with the @ ;D
Probably (unfortunately?? :-X) yes, given the description on the front page.
This forum:
avast! 4 Home/Pro topics and issues
General Topics:
anything and everything about this board.
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Could you move my thread that I started about the "K" word to the General Topics forum. Thanks.
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And the one I started about the "Mystery Woman" Thanks.