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Title: What is happening with the forum?
Post by: REDACTED on July 13, 2014, 03:10:36 AM
Hello :)

This is what I get when I go to forum.avast.com with Google Chrome

Image:
http://www.dodaj.rs/f/2X/Ac/17sIA80l/wtf-avast-forum.jpg

However, my Netscape Navigator works OK with Avast forum..

Should I (or You) be in a worry? :)
Title: Re: What is happening with the forum?
Post by: Pondus on July 13, 2014, 03:12:13 AM
strange ..... as i use chrome now and dont see that

Title: Re: What is happening with the forum?
Post by: REDACTED on July 13, 2014, 03:14:53 AM
Full Google Chrome details:


forum.avast.com normally uses encryption (SSL) to protect your information. When Chrome tried to connect to forum.avast.com this time, forum.avast.com returned unusual and incorrect credentials. Either an attacker is trying to pretend to be forum.avast.com, or a Wi-Fi sign-in screen has interrupted the connection. Your information is still secure because Chrome stopped the connection before any data was exchanged.

Network errors and attacks are usually temporary, so this page will probably work later. You can also try switching to another network.


Technical details

The certificate that Chrome received during this connection attempt is not formatted correctly, so Chrome cannot use it to protect your information.
Error type: Malformed certificate
Subject: *.avast.com
Issuer: DigiCert SHA2 High Assurance Server CA
Public key hashes: sha1/g/baV3aPyOeD/oMH6x/DjH/c37g= sha256/5YutmKl+3X+bE/xFzn+x2nMdt43SxQGJNCKJCP4ca0Y= sha1/3lKvjNsfmrn+WmfDhvr2iVh/yRs= sha256/k2v657xBsOVe1PQRwOsHsw3bsGT2VzIqz5K+59sNQws= sha1/gzF+YoVCU9bXeDGQ7JGQVumRueM= sha256/WoiWRyIOVNa9ihaBciRSC7XHjliYS9VwUGOIud4PB18=
Title: Re: What is happening with the forum?
Post by: polonus on July 13, 2014, 03:21:22 AM
Well it is an error with the bios time of your device that is producing this, set the bios time right and you will be good to go.

polonus
Title: Re: What is happening with the forum?
Post by: REDACTED on July 13, 2014, 03:26:29 AM
My BIOS time is correct and synchronized with an atomic clock over the Internet.
I use "Atomic Tyme Sync" from http://www.analogx.com/
And my clock was synchronized last time: today!
So it can't be the clock regarding this issue :)
Title: Re: What is happening with the forum?
Post by: polonus on July 13, 2014, 03:31:49 AM
Then let these guys have a look and run ICSI netalyzer to debug your internet connection, you might find out what caused the flaw. Go here to run the app: http://netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.edu/

polonus
Title: Re: What is happening with the forum?
Post by: REDACTED on July 13, 2014, 04:06:34 AM
If my Internet connection might be the cause, then how Netscape (browser) works OK?
Title: Re: What is happening with the forum?
Post by: bob3160 on July 13, 2014, 02:28:46 PM
If my Internet connection might be the cause, then how Netscape (browser) works OK?
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1405254494879-12866.png)

If you are the only person having this problem and not everyone else,
then the problem is obviously local not an issue related to avast! or Chrome.
Title: Re: What is happening with the forum?
Post by: polonus on July 13, 2014, 02:37:24 PM
Netscape Navigator?  :o
Wasn't that a browser from the past for which AOL ended support back in 2008.
This browser's development is officially dead like flock and other browsers from the past.
Obsolete.

polonus
Title: Re: What is happening with the forum?
Post by: REDACTED on July 14, 2014, 01:38:01 AM
Exactly that Netscape Navigator, version 9.0.0.5.

It will open any site, Youtube, Facebook and other social networking included.
It's 100% immune to un-wanted add-(ons such as Ask Toolbar) or similar :P
It can split screen vertically so that I can, for example watch something on YouTube on my left side of the screen, while I'm on forum or somewhere else on the Internet in the right part of the screen.
It uses ONLY around 20-30% of the CPU resources (Chrome uses 100%)
It uses ONLY a few megabytes of RAM memory..
Incredible browser!
And even in this situation - Netscape is the one that got me on this forum, not the Crhome! :/
Think about it...

Then let these guys have a look and run ICSI netalyzer to debug your internet connection, you might find out what caused the flaw. Go here to run the app: http://netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.edu/

polonus

Java is not allowed on this system (except the built-in-java in every browser)
Google Chrome has its own Java, but this site attempted to install Java from Oracle.
Java from Oracle ... well.. is not allowed on this system...

Title: Re: What is happening with the forum?
Post by: polonus on July 14, 2014, 02:12:46 AM
Hi BulmaSoft,

Read some conflicting reviews here: http://download.cnet.com/Netscape-Navigator/3640-2356_4-10784595-35.html?v=1
Again it is your choice.

polonus
Title: Re: What is happening with the forum?
Post by: midnight on July 14, 2014, 02:13:06 AM
Netscape Navigator...........
Title: Re: What is happening with the forum?
Post by: polonus on July 14, 2014, 02:18:59 AM
Hi -midnight,

Does this mean you are going to switch over to this browser which is a mozilla fork with an inferior mozilla engine under the hood?
A zombie browser that did a resurrection trick  ;D
Saw someone still using Win 95, but he keeps restoring it.  ;D

polonus
Title: Re: What is happening with the forum?
Post by: midnight on July 14, 2014, 02:50:23 AM
Hi polonus,

No, I'm not going to switch.  :)
Title: Re: What is happening with the forum?
Post by: REDACTED on July 25, 2014, 08:33:43 PM
No, it is not related only to me.
Whole REGION of Republic Srpska is unable to acces your forum via the Google Chrome.
But on all of those computers access to forum IS POSSIBLE if the user is using - Netscape browser.
You might wanna look in to this... :/

(Affected Internet Service Provider is named telekom srpska)
That is an ADSL line.
Title: Re: What is happening with the forum?
Post by: Eddy on July 25, 2014, 08:52:33 PM
A few things I noticed:
Quote
It's 100% immune to un-wanted add-(ons such as Ask Toolbar) or similar
- It is however vulnerable to many new(er) malwares.
- It can't handle the newest security certificates/tls standards. Yes, TLS. SSL is old school and replaced.
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It can split screen vertically so that I can, for example watch something on YouTube on my left side of the screen, while I'm on forum or somewhere else on the Internet in the right part of the screen.
You can choose "open in a new screen" with Chrome and other browser to watch two things (or more) at the same time.
Quote
It uses ONLY around 20-30% of the CPU resources (Chrome uses 100%) It uses ONLY a few megabytes of RAM memory.. Incredible browser!
Try Opera ;) Incredible? I agree, incredible vulnerable to infections.
Quote
Whole REGION of Republic Srpska is unable to acces your forum via the Google Chrome.
And everyone is using the same ISP?

Ever thought it could be the local government that is screwing with things?
Title: Re: What is happening with the forum?
Post by: polonus on July 25, 2014, 09:38:10 PM
The list the other way around: http://www.nirsoft.net/countryip/rs.html

We have a qualified Serbian removal expert here on our forums and I have never heard a similar story from him.
I will ask him for a confirmation of this situation or whether he is aware.

polonus
Title: Re: What is happening with the forum?
Post by: Sass Drake on July 26, 2014, 06:02:00 PM
No, it is not related only to me.
Whole REGION of Republic Srpska is unable to acces your forum via the Google Chrome.
But on all of those computers access to forum IS POSSIBLE if the user is using - Netscape browser.
You might wanna look in to this... :/

(Affected Internet Service Provider is named telekom srpska)
That is an ADSL line.

I'm also using m:tel (ex Telekom Srpske) ADSL and I have no problem accessing this forum. :)


EDIT:
Both Firefox 31 and portable Chrome 36 are able to load this forum pages.
(http://fotkica.com/thumbs3/1_tmb_281278957_Untitled.png) (http://fotkica.com/slike.php?slika=1_281278957_Untitled.png)
Title: Re: What is happening with the forum?
Post by: !Donovan on July 26, 2014, 07:12:38 PM
Hello,

I am assuming that you are able to view from NetScape due to it not checking the connection.

It is possible to replicate this error here as well, using a certain internet connection(s) and various sites.

Regards,
~!Donovan
Title: Re: What is happening with the forum?
Post by: polonus on July 26, 2014, 07:47:45 PM
Hi !Donovan,

Probably BulmaSoft had another "RipVanWinkle moment", certainly is not with the Telekom Srpske ADSL guys.

polonus
Title: Re: What is happening with the forum?
Post by: REDACTED on August 11, 2014, 06:06:58 PM
well, although i don't know what one might mean by "the whole region", but I'm experiencing the exact problem with the forum, while connecting from Greece and a Greek ISP.
i connect to the Internet through my desktop, on which the router is attached through a cable. i have also created a home wireless LAN, and i use a laptop to go on line through that. i use chrome and avast (completely same versions) on both machines. the problem that occurs is that on the PC, i cannot access the forum through chrome or IE, but i can through opera. chrome produces the message BulmaSoft has uploaded with the same explanation/details, while IE gives the "cannot display page" message. i think that this behavior has appeared more or less the same period - no longer than two months ago.

I've been on this problem for a few days now and , to cut a long story short (to not mention workarounds I've tried to no avail), i have discovered this:
i have no problem accessing the forum through the laptop. and now for the somewhat creepy details. i exported the certificate on my laptop and copied it to my PC, both through the wireless and by USB flash.
outcome: the exact same certificate is accepted on one machine (laptop) and rejected on the other (PC). the only difference  i observed is that the valid signature algorithm (Sha256RSA) changes to 1.2.840.11.... on transfer.

i would say that this is not a local problem (country, ISP) but also it is (the machine).

Any ideas?

PS. I've used avast for years and i trust it, although i can't say the same for chrome - it's the relation with IE too.
Title: Re: What is happening with the forum?
Post by: !Donovan on August 12, 2014, 01:18:22 AM
Interesting. I'll look into this further.

Thanks,
~!Donovan
Title: Re: What is happening with the forum?
Post by: REDACTED on August 12, 2014, 07:32:40 PM
Update:
I checked on an other PC with IE8 (same as mine), Chrome and Firefox, and a different ISP. the machine is as good as new, meaning it has had a clean install recently and the usage is mainly of simple games and surfing news sites. the only software difference is the comodo internet security/firewall freeware. The same behavior - not connecting to the forum, with altered signature algorithm of the certificate.

Detail: the Hosts file was 'pristine', with only the "127.0.0.1 localhost" (if my memory serves me correct) entry. Didn't look any further than that.

greetings and thanks
Title: Re: What is happening with the forum?
Post by: bob3160 on August 13, 2014, 01:54:28 PM
You could always get rid of Comodo and use the firewall in Windows 8.
It's worked without problems for me since early beta testing days of Windows 8
and, I didn't have to add any other software to my system. :)