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Title: Forced automatic update from 2014.9.0.2008 to 2014.9.0.2021 internet not working
Post by: REDACTED on August 03, 2014, 09:57:47 AM
SYSTEM DETAILS:-

Windows 7 home premium
Service pack 1
Zonealarm 9
Windows Defender and no other security
Browsers: Firefox (main), Chrome, Internet Explorer

INSTALL DETAILS:-

After removing with AvastClear several times again and again and again....

I have done a clean custom install, excluding all the non essential tools from the centre column and the install went through smoothly.

JUST TO RE-ITERATE:-
I have done done a clean install with and without avastclear many times including removing Zonealarm from my system.

PROBLEM:-

I have 3 different brand laptops in the house with the same system setup as detailed above.
And over the last few days all of them have been 'Automatically Forced' to upgrade to the latest version of Avast from 2014.9.0.2008 without my consent as all off them have 'Program Update' set to manual.

I have never had a single problem using the older version of avast, but now all 3 laptops will not load web pages completely using any browser unless i turn off the 'Webshield' under the active shield options, at this point i am usure of any other issues that may be caused with Webshield set to on.

As soon as i turn off the Webshield the problem dissappears.

I have created this subject away from another users similar post as apparently this makes a difference.

Title: Re: Forced automatic update from 2014.9.0.2008 to 2014.9.0.2021 internet not working
Post by: REDACTED on August 03, 2014, 10:01:17 AM
Are you connected to a home network?

Have you run any scans to make sure you are malware-free?

Please turn on your machine's firewall for protection since ZA is not installed.
Title: Re: Forced automatic update from 2014.9.0.2008 to 2014.9.0.2021 internet not working
Post by: REDACTED on August 03, 2014, 10:08:15 AM
Not connected to a homenetwork

Yes, used SuperAntispyware - but all 3 laptops have exactly the same error so this is very unlikely malware, and 100% a Webshield issue.

All Firewalls off.
Title: Re: Forced automatic update from 2014.9.0.2008 to 2014.9.0.2021 internet not working
Post by: REDACTED on August 03, 2014, 10:09:39 AM
For protection, please turn on the machine's internal firewall (FW) for now.

I know you've done the uninstall/install several times, but this is a different tool to get rid of remnants: [url]http://rejzor.wordpress.com/avast-cleanup-tool/[url].  Please try it on one of your machines and see if it works > reboot afterwards > update definitions > register and adjust settings.
Title: Re: Forced automatic update from 2014.9.0.2008 to 2014.9.0.2021 internet not working
Post by: REDACTED on August 03, 2014, 10:12:06 AM
Windows firewall back on
Title: Re: Forced automatic update from 2014.9.0.2008 to 2014.9.0.2021 internet not working
Post by: REDACTED on August 03, 2014, 10:13:11 AM
Sorry, I made some edits to my last post.  Did you see them?
Title: Re: Forced automatic update from 2014.9.0.2008 to 2014.9.0.2021 internet not working
Post by: REDACTED on August 03, 2014, 10:17:53 AM
Yes, i have downloaded a file called 'avastcleanuptool' - is that the correct item ?

and do i use it after doing a normal uninstall of Avast ?

If so, this will obviously take quite a long time to do !
Title: Re: Forced automatic update from 2014.9.0.2008 to 2014.9.0.2021 internet not working
Post by: REDACTED on August 03, 2014, 10:22:10 AM
Yes, that's the one.  You basically will do the usual Avast Uninstaller Tool in Safe Mode as usual, then run this other tool to get rid of remnants.  I'm wondering if these remnants are causing your problem since you are going from a higher version to a lower version.  I realize it will take a while, but as you said, you've been doing this so many times, it should come a little bit easier.  You may want to sign off-line to speed things up, then report back after doing it on one machine to let us know if it worked.  Does that sound acceptable to you?
Title: Re: Forced automatic update from 2014.9.0.2008 to 2014.9.0.2021 internet not working
Post by: REDACTED on August 03, 2014, 10:24:54 AM
Yes, i will give it a go on this machine and let you know...
Title: Re: Forced automatic update from 2014.9.0.2008 to 2014.9.0.2021 internet not working
Post by: REDACTED on August 03, 2014, 10:27:24 AM
OK.  We will await to hear back from you once you are done.  Good luck...I hope this works for you.
Title: Re: Forced automatic update from 2014.9.0.2008 to 2014.9.0.2021 internet not working
Post by: REDACTED on August 03, 2014, 11:08:58 AM
No luck, exactly the same as before.

I am now using it with the 'Webshield' turned off and it works fine, but as soon as i turn it on again the web pages will not load.

... and my laptop is now lightning fast with webshield turned off and after searching the web it seems that the new 'Webshield' is causing major issues for alot of users since 2013 which doesn't seem to be getting resolved.
Title: Re: Forced automatic update from 2014.9.0.2008 to 2014.9.0.2021 internet not working
Post by: REDACTED on August 03, 2014, 02:26:11 PM
So has anybody on these forums got any other fix to Avast issues apart from doing a clean install, or is that the technical limit ?

I don't think i've seen any other advice than that !
Title: Re: Forced automatic update from 2014.9.0.2008 to 2014.9.0.2021 internet not working
Post by: REDACTED on August 04, 2014, 10:09:22 AM
At this point, you should submit a ticket.  Only do this once.  I'm very sorry this didn't fix the problem.  When you submit the ticket, you can copy and paste the url to this thread as to what you tried already to fix the problem.  Thank you.
Title: Re: Forced automatic update from 2014.9.0.2008 to 2014.9.0.2021 internet not working
Post by: REDACTED on August 04, 2014, 10:26:36 AM
@ SafeSurf

Hi SafeSurf, thanks for your polite and courteous advice / help - unfortunately i totally believe it is to do the with re-written webshield that just has too many issues and seems incompatible with certain setups of Windows 7 - Service Pack 1.

Therefore, i'm going to have to revert back to Avast 2014.9.0.2008, and block it from accessing the internet using Zonealarm, and stop the out of date definitions updater prompting me to update in the taskbar.

Then at least i have some sort of Webshield in place indefinitely - and then if Avast find a way of bypassing my security and corrupting this too without my consent, then i will have not alternative but to move to AVG.

It's a shame cause Avast used to be superb !
Title: Re: Forced automatic update from 2014.9.0.2008 to 2014.9.0.2021 internet not working
Post by: REDACTED on August 04, 2014, 10:29:08 AM
Did you check to make sure ZA isn't blocking anything with Avast?
Title: Re: Forced automatic update from 2014.9.0.2008 to 2014.9.0.2021 internet not working
Post by: REDACTED on August 04, 2014, 10:36:43 AM
@ SafeSurf

:) yes, in my first post on this thread under the heading 'Just to re-iterate' i mention i have done an install with Zonealarm removed.

Thanks
Title: Re: Forced automatic update from 2014.9.0.2008 to 2014.9.0.2021 internet not working
Post by: REDACTED on August 04, 2014, 10:38:22 AM
Sorry, I lost you there...we're on page 2!   I appreciate your patience.  Submit the ticket.  In the meantime, we can still support you here until you hear from them.  OK?
Title: Re: Forced automatic update from 2014.9.0.2008 to 2014.9.0.2021 internet not working
Post by: REDACTED on August 04, 2014, 10:45:36 AM
I don't really see how submitting a ticket will help, but i will give it to the end of the week to see if anybody can help on this thead or any others that are ongoing.

However, i honestly don't think it can be resolved going by the amount of threads on the internet, which basically comes down to 'Turn of your Webshield' or move to AVG.

I have tried so many things while the forum was down yesterday even down to changing my date and time and clock sync.



Title: Re: Forced automatic update from 2014.9.0.2008 to 2014.9.0.2021 internet not working
Post by: REDACTED on August 04, 2014, 10:48:07 AM
Submitting a ticket goes directly to the Avast Team (the techs., developers, etc.), so it may make a difference.  It certainly can't hurt.
Title: Re: Forced automatic update from 2014.9.0.2008 to 2014.9.0.2021 internet not working
Post by: REDACTED on August 04, 2014, 10:51:15 AM
i'm at work at the moment, but may do that this evening when i get chance - Again thanks for your quick responses
Title: Re: Forced automatic update from 2014.9.0.2008 to 2014.9.0.2021 internet not working
Post by: REDACTED on August 04, 2014, 10:54:19 AM
No problem...that's what I'm here for.  :)  Have fun at work!
Title: Re: Forced automatic update from 2014.9.0.2008 to 2014.9.0.2021 internet not working
Post by: REDACTED on August 04, 2014, 10:58:01 AM
haha - cheers and you :)
Title: Re: Forced automatic update from 2014.9.0.2008 to 2014.9.0.2021 internet not working
Post by: REDACTED on August 04, 2014, 10:59:27 AM
At least you're making money.  I'm just volunteering.
Title: Re: Forced automatic update from 2014.9.0.2008 to 2014.9.0.2021 internet not working
Post by: REDACTED on August 04, 2014, 11:06:32 AM
... but you probably enjoy it... Anyway thanks again :)

Title: Re: Forced automatic update from 2014.9.0.2008 to 2014.9.0.2021 internet not working
Post by: REDACTED on August 04, 2014, 11:34:32 AM
Try a previous version. It's working for me so far.
Title: Re: Forced automatic update from 2014.9.0.2008 to 2014.9.0.2021 internet not working
Post by: REDACTED on August 04, 2014, 11:40:25 AM
@ Jacemace

Sorry Jacemace, i'm not too sure what you mean, which version of Avast are you running now ?

I've seen your other thread and you seem to have the exact same problem as me ...
Title: Re: Forced automatic update from 2014.9.0.2008 to 2014.9.0.2021 internet not working
Post by: REDACTED on August 05, 2014, 09:48:24 AM
Jacemace,

Please stick to your own thread.  We are trying to help hallucinogenix here.  Thank you.
Title: Re: Forced automatic update from 2014.9.0.2008 to 2014.9.0.2021 internet not working
Post by: REDACTED on August 05, 2014, 10:14:53 AM
@ Safesurf

Sorry Safesurf i don't want to contradict you or appear rude, but i welcome any help i can get on this subject and Jacemace in particular has been one of the few people who has given me constructive advice and shared his / her experiences which i appreciate.

Also just to let you know i have reverted back to v2008 as it is the only option for me at this time as nobody has been forthcoming with genuine constructive help on this thread, including the person who advised me to create it, and find that commenting on Jacemaces thread is the only way forward at this point in time.

At least we now know it 'has' been forced on us ! - Which is not really a good thing...

Thanks
Title: Re: Forced automatic update from 2014.9.0.2008 to 2014.9.0.2021 internet not working
Post by: REDACTED on August 05, 2014, 10:20:04 AM
OK...I respect that.  Did you submit a ticket yet?
Title: Re: Forced automatic update from 2014.9.0.2008 to 2014.9.0.2021 internet not working
Post by: REDACTED on August 05, 2014, 10:31:41 AM
erm... no i forgot last night as i was trying to get v2021 to work and in the end found that it had other issues with crashing turning the webshield on and off and also the uninstaller crashed when uninstalling v2021 'Replacing files' and luckily didn't corrupt my system.

At this point i had enough and getting a little angry to say the least. So reverted to v2008 and here we are now ! - Disillusioned and despondent... but with a temporarily working Anti Virus Program.
Title: Re: Forced automatic update from 2014.9.0.2008 to 2014.9.0.2021 internet not working
Post by: REDACTED on August 05, 2014, 10:16:57 PM
Here is a reply as to why you can't revert back to your previous version from Vlk: https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=153040.90 (https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=153040.90) - see 5th reply down from top on this page.  Thank you.