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Title: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: hectic-mmv on September 19, 2014, 02:32:03 PM
Hi all,
it's Friday afternoon, I'm excited to inform you about AVAST 2015 Beta2 (build number 10.0.2200).
As you can see, the UI hasn't changed a lot, but internally we are delivering you a lot of new for this new major version of AVAST.

In AVAST 2015 Beta2, we are introducing two completely new features:

AVAST NG
A hardware based virtualization solution capable of running each Windows process in standalone safe virtualized environment (VM) and fully integrated to your desktop. Each process is executed in its own instance of VM, which means totally isolated from your other applications. This feature is now powering the Avast DeepScreen, resulting in better detection. The technology will also eventually power the Sandbox and SafeZone components (although it does not now).

Note: In this beta build, not all detections are 100% operable yet, so I wouldn't recommend using the new DeepScreen for detection testing for now. It will be 100% operable in the next couple of weeks - we will certainly let you know when is the good time to start testing with your malware collections :).

Note 2: Avast NG can be installed only on physical machine, does not work in VM. It requires HW virtualization enabled.

GrimeFighter Free
GrimeFighter will offer free cleaning of junk files and tuning of system settings. These tasks are performed by our Zilch and Torque minions. Other minion functions remain as paid-for features.

Features introduced in AVAST 2015 beta1:

• HTTPS scanning
Now, we are able to detect and decrypt TLS/SSL protected traffic in our Web-content filtering component. We are using our own generated certificates that are added into the Root Certificate store in Windows and also into major browsers. This feature will protect you against viruses coming through HTTPs traffic as well as adding compatibility for SPDY+HTTPS/ HTTP 2.0 traffic. You can tune/disable this feature in the settings section.

• Home Network Security
Scan your home network for vulnerabilities (wifi status, connected devices, router settings, factory passwords, etc.). This is quite a new approach as we are trying to discover potential problems not isolated on the particular device only, but in the entire network of devices you use or connect to the Internet from.

• SecureDNS (this feature is active in the paid versions only)
We are introducing a new provider which guards against unprotected DNS/DNS hijack on a router/client (including unsecured networks, public ones, etc.).

• Smart Scan
Integrated all on demand scans into one (Antivirus, Software updates, Home Network, GrimeFighter). One scan, different results and recommendations.

• New Support System
Easy contact for paid users to submit a ticket with all info included automatically. Improved knowledge base for free users. Help is completely online and is more up to date.

• General bugfixing
This covers a lot of stability & performance changes in all components (but the main focus was traditionally on the network & engine components).

We would like to ask for your feedback, what is not working, what is your experience, whether do you see any performance problems,
connectivity problems, etc. There is a lot of new low-level functionality with an impact to the whole system, so we need your feedback
to tune everything for the final release. Thanks a lot!

Known problems
- IE AOSP plugin has still some minor issues
- slow first start of avast! UI after first reboot after update
- minor performance problems on Win8 under heavy network traffic

Download locations
http://files.avast.com/beta9x/avast_free_antivirus_setup.exe
http://files.avast.com/beta9x/avast_pro_antivirus_setup.exe
http://files.avast.com/beta9x/avast_internet_security_setup.exe
http://files.avast.com/beta9x/avast_premier_antivirus_setup.exe

avast! cleaner:
http://files.avast.com/beta9x/avast_clear.exe

It should be possible to install this version on top of your existing avast! installation (all settings should be preserved).

Stay with us!
Michal Vanek
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Superman1975 on September 19, 2014, 02:35:05 PM
Why was the option to make one of the front buttons a "forum" button taken away?
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Secondmineboy on September 19, 2014, 02:40:01 PM
Will update ASAP :)

Did you push out this Beta without new DeepScreen to not have us waiting longer? :)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: hectic-mmv on September 19, 2014, 02:52:17 PM
Will update ASAP :)

Did you push out this Beta without new DeepScreen to not have us waiting longer? :)

avast! NG technology is used by DeepScreen
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Para-Noid on September 19, 2014, 03:03:28 PM
Why was the option to make one of the front buttons a "forum" button taken away?

The forum button is still there. Lower center to the left.

Why does hardened mode (aggressive) kick in while installing over the top?  ???
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Para-Noid on September 19, 2014, 03:08:28 PM
Another thing why is our email still being shown on the overview screen?  ???
We went through this with v8.0.  ::)

Everytime we make a screenshot we have to obfuscate our email.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Secondmineboy on September 19, 2014, 03:10:49 PM
Now i can finally use my free Avast license from Malwaretips :)

And a quick look into task manager :)

And there are some new icons on my Desktop.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: bob3160 on September 19, 2014, 03:32:34 PM
I see my namesake component is finally here:
avast! NG :)
Updating now.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: mokito on September 19, 2014, 03:33:52 PM
let's see if my network issues are fixed :p
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Charyb on September 19, 2014, 03:38:04 PM
What platform does NG work on? I'm not seeing any of the NG processes as shown by Steven.



https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=154857.msg1125630#msg1125630 (https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=154857.msg1125630#msg1125630)




Also, the safezone shortcut icon is pretty rough. see attached.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Secondmineboy on September 19, 2014, 03:45:50 PM
You need to have it checked in the installer, there is an option under additional features.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: bob3160 on September 19, 2014, 03:47:24 PM
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1411134293137-81972.png)
What happened to Chrome ? It's not listed and is the default browser ???
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Secondmineboy on September 19, 2014, 03:48:57 PM
No problem on my End with Premier.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Secondmineboy on September 19, 2014, 03:50:21 PM
Note 2: Avast NG can be installed only on physical machine, does not work in VM. It requires HW virtualization enabled.

Does not bother me, will test it anyway :)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Charyb on September 19, 2014, 03:51:25 PM
You need to have it checked in the installer, there is an option under additional features.
It doesn't install using a normal installation? You need to use a custom installation?
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Secondmineboy on September 19, 2014, 03:52:37 PM
It will install on a normal installation too as it will install everything. I did a custom install but installed everything.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: RejZoR on September 19, 2014, 04:02:50 PM
Nice, Beta2 is online. Can't wait to test it out.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: CraigB on September 19, 2014, 04:11:28 PM
Got it installed "finally" applications are very slow to open, after reboot it took nearly 2 minutes for avast and other programs to start.

I've also got the Explorer NG icon on the desktop which after opening shows nothing ???
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Secondmineboy on September 19, 2014, 04:12:57 PM
Known problems
- IE AOSP plugin has still some minor issues
- slow first start of avast! UI after first reboot after update
- minor performance problems on Win8 under heavy network traffic

NG is using VirtualBox from Oracle Corporation
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: CraigB on September 19, 2014, 04:18:33 PM
Known problems
- IE AOSP plugin has still some minor issues
- slow first start of avast! UI after first reboot after update
- minor performance problems on Win8 under heavy network traffic

NG is using VirtualBox from Oracle Corporation
First - AOS isn't installed

Secondly - slow 2 minute starts after 3 reboots

Thirdly - it's not under heavy traffic, 1 tab open.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: hectic-mmv on September 19, 2014, 04:24:33 PM
Known problems
- IE AOSP plugin has still some minor issues
- slow first start of avast! UI after first reboot after update
- minor performance problems on Win8 under heavy network traffic

NG is using VirtualBox from Oracle Corporation
First - AOS isn't installed

Secondly - slow 2 minute starts after 3 reboots

Thirdly - it's not under heavy traffic, 1 tab open.

NG is using VirtualBox as virtualization platform. Internet Explorer NG means that  this session of IE will run in virtualized NG environment.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: NON on September 19, 2014, 04:25:43 PM
Thanks for the update! :)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: bob3160 on September 19, 2014, 04:25:56 PM
The new avast! NG is killing my ability to use my computer. Everything works in slow motion.
Not acceptable and something that's hopefully being worked on.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: essexboy on September 19, 2014, 04:28:35 PM
Custom install included NG ( a few years in the making since the test for this :) )
Reboot time no difference noted .. still 45 seconds
No AOS Icon on IE11 toolbar although it is enabled  - Cured with second boot
Initial start on IE11 a little slow but subsequent tabs added mayhap 1 second or less
Account settings page logging out as soon as it signs in - Cured with second boot
All settings transferred with no error
Disabled hardened mode now and allowing deepscreen to get in on the act
No NG icons for IE11 (unless it now runs in that automatically)

Win 8.1 x64
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: CraigB on September 19, 2014, 04:29:25 PM
Internet Explorer NG means that  this session of IE will run in virtualized NG environment.
Yes but it doesn't open anything, blank page as picture shows, even the favourites list is empty.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Andrey,pro on September 19, 2014, 05:05:10 PM
Grime Fighter Free isn't working for me (or I don't know how to use it), the main screen of GF is looking broken in Russian.
Also I can't find Internet Explorer NG on my PC, can anyone help me? (or it's not available in avast Free ?):-\

Windows 7 Starter edition
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: CraigB on September 19, 2014, 05:05:57 PM
NG browser has finally started to work ??? favourites still don't show though and the homepage doesn't show either, have to manually type into the address bar.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: CraigB on September 19, 2014, 05:07:21 PM

Also I can't find Internet Explorer NG on my PC, can anyone help me? (or it's not available in avast Free ?):-\

Windows 7 Starter edition
Does your system have Hardware Virtualisation enabled ?
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Charyb on September 19, 2014, 05:08:49 PM
Got it installed "finally" applications are very slow to open, after reboot it took nearly 2 minutes for avast and other programs to start.

I've also got the Explorer NG icon on the desktop which after opening shows nothing


Not certain that I am understanding what exactly NG is supposed to do at this moment. The release notes show that it is available for Deepscreen now and will be available for Sandbox and Safezone in a few weeks. Then, why is there a sandbox border around your Internet Explorer showing NG?
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Andrey,pro on September 19, 2014, 05:10:47 PM

Also I can't find Internet Explorer NG on my PC, can anyone help me? (or it's not available in avast Free ?):-\

Windows 7 Starter edition
Does your system have Hardware Virtualisation enabled ?
Yes, and I see avast NG folder in C:\Program Files\AVAST Software\Avast, but I can't find Internet Explorer NG on my PC...
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Charyb on September 19, 2014, 05:12:57 PM
It would be nice if an avast employee were to explain NG in finer detail.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: CraigB on September 19, 2014, 05:15:35 PM
Yes, and I see avast NG folder in C:\Program Files\AVAST Software\Avast, but I can't find Internet Explorer NG on my PC...
One of the dev's will have to look into it further, I'm not sure if it works on your Starter Edition or not :-\
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: schmidthouse on September 19, 2014, 05:19:05 PM
Anyone with install of B2 on xpSP4 or SP3.
Operating systems/ Service Packs aren't being mentioned by testers. ???
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: RejZoR on September 19, 2014, 05:19:57 PM
It would be nice if an avast employee were to explain NG in finer detail.

Well, DeepScreen does emulation in a similar way like any sandbox app. Basically you run parts of system in RAM and you throw apps in there to run them in virtual environment (imagine running an app inside Sandboxie).

NG on the other hand is entire OS emulated on hardware level (that's why you need CPU capable of hardware virtualization). It's still being run in RAM, but is entirely physically separated. Which mean it shouldn't conflict with OS and other apps, should be faster and more flexible.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: clocks on September 19, 2014, 05:39:28 PM
Does Avast NG use VT-x or VT-d, or both.  For instance the processor on one of my machines (J1900) only supports VT-x.

http://ark.intel.com/products/78867/Intel-Celeron-Processor-J1900-2M-Cache-up-to-2_42-GHz
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Andrey,pro on September 19, 2014, 05:47:03 PM
Yes, and I see avast NG folder in C:\Program Files\AVAST Software\Avast, but I can't find Internet Explorer NG on my PC...
One of the dev's will have to look into it further, I'm not sure if it works on your Starter Edition or not :-\
Thanks.
I think It can be useful: I have an AMD C-50 processor which support AMD-V.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: RejZoR on September 19, 2014, 05:50:02 PM
Though C-50 is incredibly slow. I have the bigger brother E-450 and it's still slow as hell.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Andrey,pro on September 19, 2014, 05:53:48 PM
Though C-50 is incredibly slow. I have the bigger brother E-450 and it's still slow as hell.
Yes, you're right, but it's just a cheap lenovo g575 laptop  :)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: pk on September 19, 2014, 05:58:15 PM
Some information about new avast! NG component: our classic sandbox technology (used for DeepScreen, Sandbox and SafeZone components) restricts a sandboxed application to modify your system. As Windows OS is quite rich for various APIs and frameworks, we need to monitor more and more OS functions invoked from the unknown applications. This works perfect for Sandbox/SafeZone, but it's not enough for DeepScreen analysis. When a malware is analyzed in DeepScreen, we'd like to allow it to behave freely without any restrictions and monitor only its activities. Unfortunately, we might end up very soon if it tries e.g. to load a kernel-mode driver (you can't monitor kernel-mode, and if it gets there, it can control your entire OS, hide itself, connect to internet, ...), or use some undocumented system calls on 64-bit OSes (we use own hypervisor driver to fully protect 64-bit OSes, but this doesn't work on older PCs or with disabled VT-X/AMD-V feature in BIOS).

Avast! NG helps us to analyze malware real-time totally without any restrictions - it can load a kernel driver, it can delete any Windows files, format your volume, everything it wishes. The malware is executed on your OS using VirtualBox engine and the entire OS with malware is monitored. NG was heavily tested for a few months by our user base and we have fixed various HW/SW conflicts and tuned performance. After avast installation, it takes a couple of minutes to prepare NG (this is executed in the background with normal priority in this Beta, it'll be on idle priority in final release).

Avast! NG system requirements:
- physical machine
- Vista+ (32-bit OS with 1.5GB+ RAM, 64-bit with 2.5Gb+ RAM), XP will be supported in final release
- VT-X/AMD-V must be enabled in BIOS for all Win8+ 32-bit OS and for all 64-bit OSes (NG will work correctly on other OSes without VT-X/AMD-V)
- 10% free space on system disk, not less than 2GB (this won't be required in final release)
- in RTM, NG will be disabled on slower computers
If NG components is missing in custom installation, you can check "setup.log" why NG can't be installed on your computer.

In Beta2, new web browsers icons on desktop will be created and you can try to run these web browsers in NG (just for testing purposes, this will be removed after Beta2/RC testing).
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Lord_Ami on September 19, 2014, 05:59:36 PM
Fresh install.

No problems except aswFe.exe CPU usage (between 10-25 on one core for some time now). Did Smart scan and left home. Came back and there it is.
I'll do one restart and see how it behaves after that. No boot delay here !:)

Also I like the UI very much. + SafeZone browser version is now 38.0.2078.1
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Andrey,pro on September 19, 2014, 06:08:56 PM
Hello pk,
Can you please confirm that avast NG will be working on Windows 7 Starter edition?
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: fred.singh on September 19, 2014, 06:16:42 PM
@pk

Many thanks for taking the time to explain this tech.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Lord_Ami on September 19, 2014, 06:22:29 PM
Just noticed that Secure DNS has no box under "Monitoring" settings so that if it is turned off, you can not hide warning about it from main UI.
Made a post with more details on feedback site too :)

//
When turning off Secure DNS under Settings, "Turn on" has no affect (main UI button). It does nothing.

Windows 7 x64.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: schmidthouse on September 19, 2014, 06:27:46 PM
Folks, I think it would be prudent if testing, to include OS info in posts as some issues may be "Operating System Specific" :)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: mokito on September 19, 2014, 06:36:38 PM
still having issues with [DNS Shield] [Web Shield] [Firewall] when accessing some websites....

got to turn all of those of....
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: TrueIndian on September 19, 2014, 06:41:21 PM
So we are losing quite a few protection layers.What if the  hardware virtualization option is off in bios by default as I see a few which are.What's the point of having such a component that isnt necessarily compatible for all types of systems.

Btw,mine is a 3GB ram with hardware virtualization disabled by default? And I guess I have a AMD processor and graphics chip which is pretty good for gaming.

And what if AV-Comparatives and other testers this hardware virtualization off or low level systems?? We are missing off on a huge protection advantage unless there is a backup that can keep up with the protection.

So I have a AMD 4300 HD series graphics chip and Dual core 2.10 GHz processor.This stuff is like Few years old? So this wont work on my system or will it ??
So are there any future secondary layer for deepscreen to compete with the NG protection rate? So we cant test this atleast the free version in VM anymore  ???
Well,its kind of sad because I am sure atleast some of them in our huge avast community may have a slower pc.So NG would not be functional there??
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Charyb on September 19, 2014, 06:48:08 PM
Hi pk and RejZor.
Thanks for providing additional information.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: warlock on September 19, 2014, 06:48:51 PM
It's interesting NG uses VirtualBox, considering Avast (at least IS) is totally incompatible with any VirtualBox versions newer than 4.3.12 as 4.3.14 introduced some stupid hardening features that don't cope well with dll injections and similar things. They already released several 4.3.15 betas, 4.3.16 and now several 4.3.17 betas and still didn't manage to make it work.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: DavidR on September 19, 2014, 07:05:31 PM
Update from the beta1 UI appeared to go well, no real issues.

I noticed that the UI is displayed after boot and that it has changed slightly - also on that screen the Smart Scan occupies one of the four tiles. Unlike the other three it can't be changed to something that is more commonly viewed in the avast UI.

I can't see me ever using this so called Smart Scan, so it would be nice if that tile could also be changed like the other three - of course the Smart Scan would have to be in the drop down list if it were to be user selectable.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: zorgon on September 19, 2014, 07:09:16 PM
So we are losing quite a few protection layers.What if the  hardware virtualization option is off in bios by default as I see a few which are.What's the point of having such a component that isnt necessarily compatible for all types of systems.

Btw,mine is a 3GB ram with hardware virtualization disabled by default? And I guess I have a AMD processor and graphics chip which is pretty good for gaming.

And what if AV-Comparatives and other testers this hardware virtualization off or low level systems?? We are missing off on a huge protection advantage unless there is a backup that can keep up with the protection.

So I have a AMD 4300 HD series graphics chip and Dual core 2.1GHz processor.This stuff is like Few years old? So this wont work on my system or will it ??
So are there any future secondary layer for deepscreen to compete with the NG protection rate? So we cant test this atleast the free version in VM anymore  ???
Well,its kind of sad because I am sure atleast some of them in our huge avast community may have a slower pc.So NG would not be functional there??

Good point on hardware virtualization. I wonder what is going to happen to all those old computers still running XP and this new avast! version.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: TrueIndian on September 19, 2014, 07:15:01 PM
Good point on hardware virtualization. I wonder what is going to happen to all those old computers still running XP and this new avast! version.

pk earlier mentioned XP will be supported in next release.What I am hoping that NG is just a small kick over and when all detections (dyna-gen) go active there wont be even a marginal difference.But I guess we have to wait until avast! team expand on my point of view.I just hope avast protection rates wont vary largely according to system specs.  :o
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: neverseen76 on September 19, 2014, 07:16:09 PM
So we are losing quite a few protection layers.What if the  hardware virtualization option is off in bios by default as I see a few which are.What's the point of having such a component that isnt necessarily compatible for all types of systems.

Btw,mine is a 3GB ram with hardware virtualization disabled by default? And I guess I have a AMD processor and graphics chip which is pretty good for gaming.

And what if AV-Comparatives and other testers this hardware virtualization off or low level systems?? We are missing off on a huge protection advantage unless there is a backup that can keep up with the protection.

So I have a AMD 4300 HD series graphics chip and Dual core 2.1GHz processor.This stuff is like Few years old? So this wont work on my system or will it ??
So are there any future secondary layer for deepscreen to compete with the NG protection rate? So we cant test this atleast the free version in VM anymore  ???
Well,its kind of sad because I am sure atleast some of them in our huge avast community may have a slower pc.So NG would not be functional there??

Hi, Tru Ind, this is exactly my concern here... My cpu does not support hardware virtualization at all. So if I stay with Avast 2015, I can never have the same protection of other people. Maybe I'd better switch to another free solution.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: TrueIndian on September 19, 2014, 07:18:10 PM
Hi, Tru Ind, this is exactly my concern here... My cpu does not support hardware virtualization at all. So if I stay with Avast 2015, I can never have the same protection of other people. Maybe I'd better switch to another free solution.

I think you should wait until avast! team tells us what actually is the plan with NG? Is it a major protection difference? Or will it just be a 1% of side kick when all detections (dyna-gen) go online.

And is that what they meant by saying all detection capabilities going online?? Do they mean dyna-gen? Btw,I figured my system does have harwdware virtualization technology so I turned it on so this does work with my setup.

So The BIG question: Will the final's product's protection be determinant to the system specs or not?
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: TrueIndian on September 19, 2014, 07:33:31 PM
I was reading what pk said here:
Quote
Avast! NG system requirements:
- physical machine
- Vista+ (32-bit OS with 1.5GB+ RAM, 64-bit with 2.5Gb+ RAM), XP will be supported in final release
- VT-X/AMD-V must be enabled in BIOS for all Win8+ 32-bit OS and for all 64-bit OSes (NG will work correctly on other OSes without VT-X/AMD-V)
- 10% free space on system disk, not less than 2GB (this won't be required in final release)
- in RTM, NG will be disabled on slower computers
If NG components is missing in custom installation, you can check "setup.log" why NG can't be installed on your computer.

So I have some questions when this product goes final how is this going to be:

1- So this wont work in VM even in future?

2- Vista+ and Win8+ so you mean if I have win7 or XP I dont need HW or any other thing to be on because thats what I read from when one says Vista+ systems??

3- NG wont work correctly on low systems with no HW?? So will its advantage be cut short to something? Marginal or big difference in detection??

4- NG disabled in slower systems in RTM so will we have this feature in final irrespective of system specs in the final?
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: warlock on September 19, 2014, 07:44:02 PM
5 - VT-x is OFF by default on all boards, be it Asus, MSI, Gigabyte or whatelse, so, aside from the enthusiasts, who turn it on, who will actually use NG?
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: TrueIndian on September 19, 2014, 07:45:15 PM
5 - VT-x is OFF by default on all boards, be it Asus, MSI, Gigabyte or whatelse, so, aside from the enthusiasts, who turn it on, who will actually use NG?

+1 good question  :)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: pk on September 19, 2014, 08:12:13 PM
You don't lose any protection layers. If you have HW virtualization feature enable, avast will use NG to analyze malware in DeepScreen, otherwise avast will use classic sandbox. Also, if your system is NG compatible and your system will be low on resources at the moment we'd like to analyze a malware in NG, we'll analyze it in classic sandbox. So you don't need to worry, the malware will be always analyzed.

Quote
Or will it just be a 1% of side kick when all detections (dyna-gen) go online.
Our internal tests says, NG improves DeepScreen greatly (nearly 30 percents improvement).

Quote
1- So this wont work in VM even in future?
Yes, NG will probably never work in VM (vmware/virtualbox). We were able to use it inside VM, but it was very slow and CPU must support nested virtualization feature. I don't see it's a big problem you won't use NG in VM.

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2- Vista+ and Win8+ so you mean if I have win7 or XP I dont need HW or any other thing to be on because thats what I read from when one says Vista+ systems??
Right now, Beta2 supports only Vista+ (Vista/W7/W8/W8.1) OSes, XP will be supported in RTM (it's older OS and we have to implement some drivers for this OS).
Next, VT-X/AMD-V is required ONLY for 32-bit Win8/Win8.1 OSes and for ALL 64-bit OSes. If you have XP/Vista 32-bit then you don't need VT-X/AMD-V at all.

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4- NG disabled in slower systems in RTM so will we have this feature in final irrespective of system specs in the final?
Probably not, NG component is not so important to publish system requirements on our website. In next weeks, we'll check which systems are good enough for NG.

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5 - VT-x is OFF by default on all boards, be it Asus, MSI, Gigabyte or whatelse, so, aside from the enthusiasts, who turn it on, who will actually use NG?
Even if you have VT-X/AMD-V disabled in BIOS, sometimes it can be turned on programmatically. We know exactly how many our users have VT-X/AMD-V enabled (or we can enable it) or without it (on XP/Vista as I mentioned).
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: abruptum on September 19, 2014, 08:16:38 PM
I am little confused. I checked with Speccy :
Intel Pentium Dual Core E5200 - Virtualization not supported.
So,no NG for me ?
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Para-Noid on September 19, 2014, 09:11:54 PM
I wasn't offered NG during custom set-up.  ???
It wasn't even listed. Tried over the top and a clean install.  ???
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Secondmineboy on September 19, 2014, 09:13:05 PM
Tried to test this Beta with and without TimeFreeze on a real system, both times running into a locked up system after running a few files.

But still the system is not infected.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: pk on September 19, 2014, 09:28:37 PM
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Intel Pentium Dual Core E5200 - Virtualization not supported.
So,no NG for me ?
@abruptum: it depends on your OS (see my previous post, question no. #2)

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Tried to test this Beta with and without TimeFreeze on a real system, both times running into a locked up system after running a few files.
@Steven Winderlich: I'd be very interested to see your system deadlock. Can you please run http://public.avast.com/~kurtin/osrbang_x64.exe (move dialog to the corner), install avast and when your system hangs, please click on "CRASH" button. Please compress \Windows\memory.dmp (rar/7z) and upload this file on our FTP (or somewhere else) and send me the link on my email (kurtin@avast.com). Thanks!
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Secondmineboy on September 19, 2014, 09:29:31 PM
Will do a bit later on :)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: sanandreas on September 19, 2014, 09:33:24 PM
I like the new skin of beta 2, but I'm not satisfied with some details. So at first: In beta 1 you had four configurable quick start buttons, in beta 2 only three (like in avast! 2014). And the second thing: Some fonts (for example in options menu or in the dropdown menus of the main interface) and colours don't fit to the new skin (see attachments).

I hope you guys can fix it in beta 3. :)

PS: Sorry for my probably bad English.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Secondmineboy on September 19, 2014, 09:37:05 PM
Hi sanandreas,

these are small things and can be corrected easily.

But its more important to work on stability and security features.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Lord_Ami on September 19, 2014, 09:44:42 PM
I think this has been suggested at some point already but why not add PUP detection selection (ON/OFF) into setup process? It's really critical part nowadays since PUPs are becoming more and more common and devastating these days. I would think lots of users (30%+?) have it off since they have no clue about it.

Also I believe more work needs to be done with General settings window. It's quite complicated to browse thru settings categories because there is no adequate distinction between them (especially with screens that have bad viewing angles - try it out if possible). It becomes big white mess sometimes (depending on angle etc).

For example with my laptop screen (ASUS K53SV), it's really bad to read them when I bring the screen closer (increase angle). In the other hand, opposite to that (lay screen more down) I can distinguish them well. (this laptop has really bad viewing angles). That's really minor annoyance but I thought I'd share it.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: TrueIndian on September 19, 2014, 10:18:54 PM
Thanks pk that sorts out my concerns.I would definately be looking out for more of this.So if i have win7 do i need HW? Its nice to have things sorted.

30% is indeed huge margin,definately we will see ng compatability growing in beta sessions.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: abruptum on September 19, 2014, 10:19:29 PM
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Intel Pentium Dual Core E5200 - Virtualization not supported.
So,no NG for me ?
@abruptum: it depends on your OS (see my previous post, question no. #2)

I guess I am fine with Windows 7 x86 if I understood you correctly ?
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Mahmudul Hasan Shohag on September 20, 2014, 01:00:01 AM
I like the new interface..

Some UI problem I noticed.. some screenshot attached here..
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: boe323 on September 20, 2014, 01:32:09 AM
Did avast adjust my system restore point space to 100%?, I had it set to 1% of a 2tb disk, how much space does NG need? ive only got 3 snapshots that aren't very big at all, is it correct?, can I adjust system restore space to around 10/20% of 2tb and use NG properly.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: bob3160 on September 20, 2014, 02:13:19 AM
Did avast adjust my system restore point space to 100%?, I had it set to 1% of a 2tb disk, how much space does NG need? ive only got 3 snapshots that aren't very big at all, is it correct?, can I adjust system restore space to around 10/20% of 2tb and use NG properly.
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1411171953296-93875.png)
That could get dangerous if you don't have a lot of free space.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: subhendu on September 20, 2014, 04:39:09 AM
hai all i want to know about ng, will it work on my os. My os is windows 8 enterprise 32 bit ,msi mother board, dual core processor, 2gb ram. I did not test this beta but before using the final version i want to know it.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: TrueIndian on September 20, 2014, 04:42:49 AM
hai all i want to know about ng, will it work on my os. My os is windows 8 enterprise 32 bit ,msi mother board, dual core processor, 2gb ram. I did not test this beta but before using the final version i want to know it.

It should be if its win 8....check it out with avast custom install.Is there HW option in BIOS?
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: subhendu on September 20, 2014, 04:53:33 AM
how do i know that how to enable HW on my bios by defeault without installing the beta version? I am not a computer expert that i will be able to change the bios settings.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: TrueIndian on September 20, 2014, 05:13:48 AM
how do i know that how to enable HW on my bios by defeault without installing the beta version? I am not a computer expert that i will be able to change the bios settings.

Go into the bios and search for a virtualization option you should find it somewhere.If it's not there then let it go and custom install the beta and check if you have NG listed the installation options.I think in couple of weeks we will have dyna-gen which should make up for this incompatability for some systems.

I have 2 systems one with win 7 and other win 8 and both had HW disabled in the bios but I still got NG.  :)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: TrueIndian on September 20, 2014, 09:00:49 AM
Yep as I expected.Ran avast! installer on my host laptop running windows 7 and had VT-X on and it did show me NG in custom install then rebooted to BIOS and turned VT-X off and after booting back up and re-running the installer I still get NG in custom installation.

I am going to run this on some systems with different specs.I ran this on friend's machine with vista and almost 1GB rom No VT-X options and he also got NG.So I guess what pk said is right its more dependent on the OS type.I tried with win8 32-bit system and one of them showed NG.The other one was 64 bit and it didnt work as expected and there was no NG.Had to turn on VT-X.

On other 64-bit windows 7 I didnt turn on VT-X but still got option for NG.

So far so good.I am sure after all detection modules go active (dyna-gen) if we have NG or not the difference in detection ratio's will be marginal.I hope they find a way to make NG work on some 64-bit systems without getting me to turn on VT-X.

So far I just threw some files on this guy that avast! 2014 deepscreen missed and it definately got caught but I am going to wait until everything is ready now.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Lord_Ami on September 20, 2014, 09:42:12 AM
Did avast adjust my system restore point space to 100%?, I had it set to 1% of a 2tb disk, how much space does NG need? ive only got 3 snapshots that aren't very big at all, is it correct?, can I adjust system restore space to around 10/20% of 2tb and use NG properly.

I also noticed it.

By the way, today at starting PC I caught NG making new snapshots etc.
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20.09.2014 10:34:49.724 | Creating snapshot...
20.09.2014 10:35:48.589 | Volume shadow set: {73723f8f-e121-4b1e-96cc-cda339f85b0d}
20.09.2014 10:35:48.589 | BCD volume: \\?\GLOBALROOT\Device\HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy13
20.09.2014 10:35:48.589 | Windows volume: \\?\GLOBALROOT\Device\HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy14
20.09.2014 10:35:48.592 | Creating new hive files...
20.09.2014 10:37:30.687 | Cloning NTFS volumes...
20.09.2014 10:38:22.321 | 20.09.2014 10:38:22.321 | 20.09.2014 10:38:22.327 | Creating a new VM machine...
20.09.2014 10:38:28.481 | Starting VM machine to create initial snapshot, it can take a couple of minutes...
20.09.2014 10:45:45.720 | OK
20.09.2014 10:45:46.242 | New Ng_f5d66950-2fa5-4c17-abd2-e5c8bcdbdb85 machine has been created, uuid: 1ad9aa10-e60b-458a-932a-61198028777d
20.09.2014 10:45:46.982 | New Ng_419a6214-95ac-4e86-95a0-c7bc8d4fcc57 machine has been created, uuid: 94ca8bca-4adb-4c43-bd5b-eeb9d8b2055f
20.09.2014 10:45:47.367 | New Ng_1b64b777-6189-4675-89b1-6a6ee560fa77 machine has been created, uuid: a0145f0e-d298-4fdf-8d81-c434352cf283
20.09.2014 10:45:47.423 | CmdAvastRepairWrapper done (result: 0x00000000)

Just thought that after initial restart avast! should pop up a window or something about NG technology working on PC and it could be slow for some minutes until NG is set up? Just to avoid "My computer starts slow with new version and HDD usage is high".

Moreover - all this was done (10 minutes of HDD/CPU usage) while using battery. Can this be improved (ignore snapshot/NG making while running on battery or similar option)?
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: boe323 on September 20, 2014, 12:53:53 PM
The last thing I need on my pc is 1.5tb of restore points, why is it set so high?.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: TrueIndian on September 20, 2014, 01:00:00 PM
Well,its annoying int the way that avast changed my restore point settings.I reverted it back and rebooted the system and now aswfe.exe which is avast ng service is constantly using 52% cpu and according to the log its creating vm.I guess this area needs to be optimized anything should not be taking so long to do these things and secondly its hogging the cpu.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: boe323 on September 20, 2014, 01:08:16 PM
The whole idea of antivirus is stop your system being altered, yet avast is altering system settings for the worse, it can have a major impact on everyone setting it that high. Im always installing and uninstalling stuff, im gonna have a pooh load of space waisted. Its also making my login longer, it goes to a please wait screen, and then my network icon as got a triangle on it for ages on the login page/screen
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: TrueIndian on September 20, 2014, 01:14:46 PM
The whole idea of antivirus is stop your system being altered, yet avast is altering system settings for the worse, it can have a major impact on everyone setting it that high, im always installing and uninstalling stuff, im gonna have a pooh load of space waisted.

Well definately this thing has something to do with system restore.Whatever it does it shouldnt be taking like for 15 minutes and alter my system settings and make like a 2 gb file.I know we asked for better detection capabilities from deepscreen but this is just ridiculous no Av behaves like this neither eats so much space.

Ok on my system the process is stuck in a loop and not moving on.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: essexboy on September 20, 2014, 01:28:29 PM
The last thing I need on my pc is 1.5tb of restore points, why is it set so high?.
I have started a separate topic on this, so if you can add your comments there.  Remember this is a beta so there will be weird problems popping up :)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: neverseen76 on September 20, 2014, 01:29:46 PM

Our internal tests says, NG improves DeepScreen greatly (nearly 30 percents improvement).

So, at the end, if I understood well, without HW we lose around 30 percent of detection.  :(

Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: TrueIndian on September 20, 2014, 01:45:43 PM
Well we dont know anything yet as pk said they still have to tweak and figure compatability stuff for ng.I think in next couple of weeks once we have dyna gen that will cover up but we will see.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: pk on September 20, 2014, 02:28:05 PM
In Beta2, NG uses volume shadow copy service (VSS) to snapshot your system. We plan to get rid of it as soon as possible, because VSS doesn't fit our needs (it's very storage consuming, as you noticed; very problematic, can be disabled, and it's not supported on XP). That's why we're working on our solution, but we didn't have enough time to integrate it into this Beta2. So, as a workaround, we still use VSS with taking notice of all its disadvantages. Changing maximum size for a shadow copy storage is a bug. Sorry for that.

@Lord_Ami: maybe we were unable to find your web browsers in your system (I'll send you a PM how to fix it); preparing NG machine will be run in background (in Beta2 it's set to normal priority).

@Mahmudul Hasan Shohag, @sanandreas: thanks for your screenshots of UI flaws, I'll forward them to UI devs

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So, at the end, if I understood well, without HW we lose around 30 percent of detection.  :(
@neverseen76: since avast is connected to internet, we check if your executable isn't known among our users. If this is a new unknown application, it'll be analyzes in DeepScreen (with classic sandbox or with NG). If your PC isn't suitable for NG, we'll gather & analyze application's log from the classic sandbox. However, someone else will later analyze it under NG and we can compare those two logs from both engines. These results are shared immediately among our users and help new users to decide if this unknown application is safe to run or not (even if your computer doesn't have NG installed... other avast users analyzed it for you).
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Lord_Ami on September 20, 2014, 02:36:55 PM
@Lord_Ami: maybe we were unable to find your web browsers in your system (I'll send you a PM how to fix it); preparing NG machine will be run in background (in Beta2 it's set to normal priority).

Thanks, that could be the issue as I don't see NG browser shortcuts on desktop.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: RejZoR on September 20, 2014, 02:56:27 PM
Yet another problem free build. I don't ever recall so problem free beta builds. In fact Beta2 feels a lot lighter compared to v2014 stable or Beta1.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: bob3160 on September 20, 2014, 02:58:27 PM
how do i know that how to enable HW on my bios by defeault without installing the beta version? I am not a computer expert that i will be able to change the bios settings.
Beta testing is never recommended for those that aren't very familiar with computers.
You also need to make provisions to restore your computer if something goes wrong and,
 your system crashes and can't be restored.
Title: bad use RAM
Post by: AlphaZab on September 20, 2014, 03:01:58 PM
about avast free
(http://s22.postimg.org/n4m0xtvc1/2014_09_20_00077.jpg)

I did not do a scan but the use of very large ram, This as I see it is not avast  :-\
(http://s29.postimg.org/x27zcy951/2014_09_20_00075.jpg)

new features
avastNG always do job 40-50% makes computer lag
(http://s29.postimg.org/gtrr3h0av/2014_09_20_00076.jpg)

I know this is beta

I hope, next updates ram usage problems and improved performance  :D





Title: Re: bad use RAM
Post by: Lord_Ami on September 20, 2014, 03:14:31 PM
about avast free
(http://s22.postimg.org/n4m0xtvc1/2014_09_20_00077.jpg)

I did not do a scan but the use of very large ram, This as I see it is not avast  :-\
(http://s29.postimg.org/x27zcy951/2014_09_20_00075.jpg)

new features
avastNG always do job 40-50% makes computer lag
(http://s29.postimg.org/gtrr3h0av/2014_09_20_00076.jpg)

I know this is beta

I hope, next updates ram usage problems and improved performance  :D

If I am right, it's run after system snapshot (NG technology) is made. It will be like this around 10 minutes (depends on CPU speed). It will complete over time. You can check what's going on with ngtool.log from:
C:\ProgramData\AVAST Software\Avast\ng\Logs
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: AlphaZab on September 20, 2014, 03:24:39 PM
about avast free
(http://s22.postimg.org/n4m0xtvc1/2014_09_20_00077.jpg)

I did not do a scan but the use of very large ram, This as I see it is not avast  :-\
(http://s29.postimg.org/x27zcy951/2014_09_20_00075.jpg)

new features
avastNG always do job 40-50% makes computer lag
(http://s29.postimg.org/gtrr3h0av/2014_09_20_00076.jpg)

I know this is beta

I hope, next updates ram usage problems and improved performance  :D

If I am right, it's run after system snapshot (NG technology) is made. It will be like this around 10 minutes (depends on CPU speed). It will complete over time. You can check what's going on with ngtool.log from:
C:\ProgramData\AVAST Software\Avast\ng\Logs

This log avast my computer

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20.09.2014 19:37:09.751 | error: InitializeVboxClient failed, error: 0x80040154
20.09.2014 19:37:09.931 | CmdAvastUpgradeWrapper done
20.09.2014 19:39:20.622 | CmdAvastUninstallWrapper done
20.09.2014 19:39:20.630 | Installing VirtualBox...
20.09.2014 19:39:24.787 | Creating snapshot...
20.09.2014 19:39:45.816 | Volume shadow set: {052066f2-9ff0-4480-94c5-ea3df3b60ba3}
20.09.2014 19:39:45.816 | BCD volume: \\?\GLOBALROOT\Device\HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy3
20.09.2014 19:39:45.816 | Windows volume: \\?\GLOBALROOT\Device\HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy3
20.09.2014 19:39:45.817 | Creating new hive files...
20.09.2014 19:41:10.505 | Cloning NTFS volumes...
20.09.2014 19:41:53.166 | 20.09.2014 19:41:53.166 | 20.09.2014 19:41:53.203 | Creating a new VM machine...
20.09.2014 19:42:03.487 | Starting VM machine to create initial snapshot, it can take a couple of minutes...
20.09.2014 19:50:00.828 | OK
20.09.2014 19:50:04.051 | New Ng_58e320b5-8ccd-4d4f-8044-0e40e7e53db7 machine has been created, uuid: 412d7c22-a7e7-4f3e-9d81-78ca4522b208
20.09.2014 19:50:08.888 | New Ng_f206be82-dfb3-4e7a-b62a-ce50d5d83373 machine has been created, uuid: 30485177-3838-438c-9e9f-128275876390
20.09.2014 19:50:09.683 | New Ng_603c9b4d-919d-4118-a7f2-766a4fba15b9 machine has been created, uuid: 39ff184d-8d0b-4ece-893d-5cb080a6dd6f
20.09.2014 19:50:09.741 | CmdAvastInstallWrapper done (result: 0x00000000)
20.09.2014 19:50:09.742 | CmdAvastReinstallWrapper done (result: 0x00000000)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Secondmineboy on September 20, 2014, 03:39:50 PM
@pk: Tried to run some malware today and system again locked up, couldnt get orsbang up to create a crash dump unfortunately.

Will try again later on, also some malware got through this time :)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: happy avast user on September 20, 2014, 04:25:53 PM
Hi all,

Thank you Avast Team for Avast 2015 Beta 2 . :)

I have issues with this Beta 2 which are as follows:

1.Avast Boot-Time scan, the problem is Avast itself.
After two minutes of scanning the following is shown on my screen:

c C:/PROGRAM FILES/AVAST SOFTWARE/AVAST/RESOURCES/RESOURCES.PAK ERROR 42125 (ZIP ARCHIVE IS CORRUPTED)

2 I have NG installed, but it does not work at all (for me anyway).

3. I also installed Grimefighter installed, but I cannot see it anywhere in GUI is it functional yet?

I will go back to Avast 2014 for now.

I love the tweaks made on the GUI.

I hope these small problems will be fixed soon.

happy avast user :)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: RejZoR on September 20, 2014, 04:57:44 PM
Grimefighter is not cool. It shows what it'll clean (roughly) and doesn't give any option to uncheck certain things and it doesn't even show in detail what it will clean. Sorry but i'm never going to trust a cleaner that doesn't want to tell emw hat it'll clean. Have too many bad experiences when they clean too much and that is pretty much always.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: sanandreas on September 20, 2014, 05:34:49 PM
I have a suggestion.
When avast finds a putative virus, a menu pops up, as you know. But unfortunately there is no option for add it to exclusions. So if you want to add it to exclusions then, you have to click ignore and then you have to go to options menu to add it to exclusions. That's awkward. So please add "add to exclusions" to the list. :)

Sorry for lousy english. :D
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: RejZoR on September 20, 2014, 05:47:36 PM
hat's by design, because people tend to just exclude everything then because it's easier than to accept the fact it's malware or could be a malware. Because they just want the stuff so desperately. I've seen that before...

@pk or vlk
Nov that we have NG, what's the status on Dyna-Gen? Is it going well or are there problems with it? Would be awesome to see automated behavior rules generating, in similar way you make automated Evo-Gen detections.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: TrueIndian on September 20, 2014, 06:00:37 PM
So Finally after some trial and error NG was able make a VM here...It was a pretty quick creation from what the logs said.So far no performance issues.Although I have one question about sandbox/deepscreen same as what rej said:

Is NG same as dyna-gen?? Or dyna-gen is the thing coming in next week?
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Secondmineboy on September 20, 2014, 06:02:49 PM
Dyna-Gen will come in next beta, it has something to do with the signatures.

http://www.avast.com/de-de/virus-update-history

All signatures named Dyna:............. are for Dyna-Gen.

PS: Results from my last test:

@pk: Tried to run some malware today and system again locked up, couldnt get orsbang up to create a crash dump unfortunately.

Will try again later on, also some malware got through this time :)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: RejZoR on September 20, 2014, 06:05:48 PM
Dyna signatures are made by hand. Dyna-Gen would be the same, just 100% machine generated, like the Evo-Gen signaturs.

@True Ind
No, NG is not the same as Dyna-Gen. NG is just a sandbox which needs Dyna signatures in order to make positive detections of malware. They depend on eachother but this isn't DynaGen.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: TrueIndian on September 20, 2014, 06:06:14 PM
Steve,I managed to get 2 normal trojans into the deepscreen and it got caught with NG.Thanks rejzor for the info would be useful if avast team can throw a update on dyna-gen  :)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Secondmineboy on September 20, 2014, 06:08:19 PM
I had some trojans cut also, but after 5-6 files and 4.7 of 5.9 GB Ram used and CPU locked at 100 percent my system locked up and
i had to hardreset it.

Also some trojans slipped by and infected my system, but i already nuked them by deleting Autorun and files. Only some not
harmful files left.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: TrueIndian on September 20, 2014, 06:09:51 PM
Steve I think we must give the NG a break here.Test one file at a time and then give it some rest  ;D
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Secondmineboy on September 20, 2014, 06:12:44 PM
The NG processes are not closing after the file in closed and so on all the stuff inside the VMs is stored in memory and
sooner or later you will run out of it. :)

If you want to test it against more files turn off self-protection, then you can kill the processes :)

Also my Avast Premier wants to update to a newer version which is the actual final release :)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Charyb on September 20, 2014, 06:13:44 PM

In the opening announcement...

Note: In this beta build, not all detections are 100% operable yet, so I wouldn't recommend using the new DeepScreen for detection testing for now. It will be 100% operable in the next couple of weeks - we will certainly let you know when is the good time to start testing with your malware collections
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: TrueIndian on September 20, 2014, 06:14:41 PM
The NG processes are not closing after the file in closed and so on all the stuff inside the VMs is stored in memory and
sooner or later you will run out of it. :)

If you want to test it against more files turn off self-protection, then you can kill the processes :)

Still I think the above is a bug and should be fixed.

@Charyb

I know about that...I read it but I am wondering the thing they are telling there is dyna-gen or not?
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: boe323 on September 20, 2014, 07:53:25 PM
Yet another problem free build. I don't ever recall so problem free beta builds. In fact Beta2 feels a lot lighter compared to v2014 stable or Beta1.

is there supposed to be NG shortcuts on our desktops then?, I sont have any, all I have is safebrowse and avast.
Does this mean im not set up properly?.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Secondmineboy on September 20, 2014, 07:55:23 PM
Normally there should be Icons for Chrome, Firefox and IE for NG Machine.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: boe323 on September 20, 2014, 07:59:51 PM
Normally there should be Icons for Chrome, Firefox and IE for NG Machine.
Im scared im not protected now, I have all 3 browsers with normal shortcuts but no extra ones.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Secondmineboy on September 20, 2014, 08:06:44 PM
Youre still protected, NG is just enhancing the protection level about 30 percent according to internal tests from Avast.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: boe323 on September 20, 2014, 09:55:55 PM
I can see it starting up, like the whole desktop is running under virtualization, at login you can see it switch over, like goes black for fraction of a second, but I don't have extra icons.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Asyn on September 20, 2014, 10:42:23 PM
Thanks Michal, will test it tomorrow.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: RejZoR on September 20, 2014, 11:17:36 PM
I'm doing a Full System scan and when i minimize or close the main interface, i don't see any scan progress popup. I did however for quick scan after installation of avast! Beta2.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: TheDragonFly on September 21, 2014, 04:49:45 AM
If the Behavior Shield and the P2P Shield is still in Avast 2015.  It would be nice to have some access to them again.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: hmmmmm123 on September 21, 2014, 10:05:43 AM
Might just pass on this and wait until final release.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: RealNature on September 21, 2014, 12:37:37 PM
I'm doing a Full System scan and when i minimize or close the main interface, i don't see any scan progress popup. I did however for quick scan after installation of avast! Beta2.
Did you run the scan from the shortcut of main interface, or from the scan menu?
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: 中二 on September 21, 2014, 12:52:33 PM
It cannot run under safemode. :'(
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: boe323 on September 21, 2014, 01:03:45 PM
Ive got loads of failed events in event log since installing beta 2, its to do with my network and virtualbox, apache server says incorrect function, and unable to open logs,bonjour service terminated unexpected, IKE and AUTHIP failed to load ....the list goes on with upnp and other stuff related to network. This is why my pc is telling me to wait before the login appears, avast is meesing up the pc.
NTP doesn't seem to be working anymore either.

Log Name:      Application
Source:        NTP
Date:          21/9/14 11:51:14 AM
Event ID:      1
Task Category: None
Level:         Error
Keywords:      Classic
User:          N/A
Computer:      BOES-PC
Description:
unable to bind to wildcard address :: - another process may be running - EXITING
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
  <System>
    <Provider Name="NTP" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="49152">1</EventID>
    <Level>2</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2014-09-21T10:51:14.000000000Z" />
    <EventRecordID>155188</EventRecordID>
    <Channel>Application</Channel>
    <Computer>BOES-PC</Computer>
    <Security />
  </System>
  <EventData>
    <Data>unable to bind to wildcard address :: - another process may be running - EXITING</Data>
  </EventData>
</Event>
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: boe323 on September 21, 2014, 02:08:45 PM
So ive uninstalled it all, got rid of everything avast, I forgot how fast my pc is without it lol, everything is instant now, anyway im gonna try installing it once more, if I have no look then im going back to avast 2014 premier until release day.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Staticguy on September 21, 2014, 02:19:58 PM
To Avast! Team:

In current version of Avast 2014 and previous of Avast when ever windows boot screen starts it says this "Protected by Avast!". I have an idea consider this as an idea/new feature. In Avast 2015 for Free/Internet/Premier versions when the windows boot screen starts can you show this as follows:

When windows boot screen start and for those people who have Avast Free installed: Message shows this "Protected by Avast! Free Antivirus".

For those people who have Avast Internet Security installed: Message shows this "Protected by Avast! Internet Security".

Same goes for Premier: When windows boot screen starts: Message shows this "Protected by Avast! Premier"

Same goes for Pro: When windows boot screen starts: Message shows this "Protected by Avast! Pro Antivirus"

This sounds pretty good to me :). Just an idea/new feature/suggestions from me.

Yours truely,

A very happy Avast! Free user for a very long time since Avast! 7 :)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: bob3160 on September 21, 2014, 04:29:36 PM
To Avast! Team:

In current version of Avast 2014 and previous of Avast when ever windows boot screen starts it says this "Protected by Avast!". I have an idea consider this as an idea/new feature. In Avast 2015 for Free/Internet/Premier versions when the windows boot screen starts can you show this as follows:

When windows boot screen start and for those people who have Avast Free installed: Message shows this "Protected by Avast! Free Antivirus".

For those people who have Avast Internet Security installed: Message shows this "Protected by Avast! Internet Security".

Same goes for Premier: When windows boot screen starts: Message shows this "Protected by Avast! Premier"

Same goes for Pro: When windows boot screen starts: Message shows this "Protected by Avast! Pro Antivirus"

This sounds pretty good to me :). Just an idea/new feature/suggestions from me.

Yours truely,

A very happy Avast! Free user for a very long time since Avast! 7 :)
If you have a 64 bit system, the message doesn't show at all.  I can only see the message on my 32 bit systems.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: pk on September 21, 2014, 05:14:50 PM
If you have a 64 bit system, the message doesn't show at all.  I can only see the message on my 32 bit systems.
@bob3160: looking at source code, it should work also on 64-bit OSes (displaying own text during booting phase is quite a hack, so I'll check your OS), thanks
@Staticguy: this is possible, but displaying a msg during booting phase is very "limited" (i.e. text is only in EN language, no variations, etc.)

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If the Behavior Shield and the P2P Shield is still in Avast 2015.  It would be nice to have some access to them again.
@TheDragonFly: Behavior Shield was removed in avast 2014 (it didn't bring as good results as we expected) and P2P/IM shields were integrated into file-system shield (unfortunatelly settings was removed for these shields).

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is there supposed to be NG shortcuts on our desktops then?, I sont have any, all I have is safebrowse and avast.
@boe323, @Steven Winderlich: NG shurtcuts are created on the desktop only when NG machines are ready to use (i.e. they may be still preparing in the background, there was an error, or we didn't find paths to your web browsers... as I said, these NG icons are only for Beta2/RC, they'll not exist in final release).
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: bob3160 on September 21, 2014, 05:22:53 PM
Thanks Petr. :)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: schmidthouse on September 21, 2014, 06:18:30 PM
Thanks Petr. :)

Yes, second that.   ;)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Gandalf1369 on September 21, 2014, 06:53:09 PM
If you have a 64 bit system, the message doesn't show at all.  I can only see the message on my 32 bit systems.

It also works fine on a 64bit system.  I have Windows 7 64bit (8megs RAM) and the message "Protected by avast!" appears just fine during the boot process.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: bob3160 on September 21, 2014, 08:33:18 PM
If you have a 64 bit system, the message doesn't show at all.  I can only see the message on my 32 bit systems.

It also works fine on a 64bit system.  I have Windows 7 64bit (8megs RAM) and the message "Protected by avast!" appears just fine during the boot process.
Sorry but I've never been able to get that display on the Win 8 64 Bit Dell that I use.
In the current beta, I can't even find the settings for it ??? I may be overlooking it ?
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: boe323 on September 21, 2014, 09:01:30 PM
Ive managed to get the ng shortcuts after complete uninstalling and choosing trial in avast premier2015, now I have a securevpn issue, it wont install the driver or my licence, when installing the driver I get an error saying system cant find specified path, ive navigated to the driver in avast folder and is still same outcome, im thinking something didn't didn't get removed properly, or theres something wrong with the drivers in avast beta.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Staticguy on September 21, 2014, 09:46:37 PM
@bob3160: I hope avast team make this available on 64-bit.

@pk: Please make this available for 64-bit versions. What do you mean by variations? As long as it is English. I can live with that.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Staticguy on September 21, 2014, 09:59:53 PM
If you have a 64 bit system, the message doesn't show at all.  I can only see the message on my 32 bit systems.

It also works fine on a 64bit system.  I have Windows 7 64bit (8megs RAM) and the message "Protected by avast!" appears just fine during the boot process.

@Gandalf1369: I know it exits in 64-bit versions, but about the message i meant different message with different avast versions installed. Like for those people who have avast Free installed. Message should show this "Protected by Avast! antivirus Free. For users who have premier versions installed "Protected by Avast! Antivirus Premier. So on and so fourth  :)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: boe323 on September 21, 2014, 10:47:15 PM
Im fed up lol, been on this all bloody day, all im succeeding in is messing up my OS, uninstalled again, and im not bothering until tomorrow.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: bob3160 on September 21, 2014, 11:41:16 PM
Im fed up lol, been on this all bloody day, all im succeeding in is messing up my OS, uninstalled again, and im not bothering until tomorrow.
It's a beta. Testing is getting out the bugs. It isn't always fun. Sometimes it's better to wait a while.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: RejZoR on September 22, 2014, 05:33:25 PM
Just tested Beta2 on my Windows 8.1 tablet and NG is working just fine. Tablet is ACER Iconia W4 820 with Atom Z3740 with 2GB RAM, 64GB SSD and Win 8.1 32bit.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Toco on September 23, 2014, 02:43:37 PM
Could anybody please explain me how Home Network Security works and why does it show different results on two computers which are connected to the same network?
(http://ipic.su/img/img7/tn/AvastNetworkLaptop.1411475300.png) (http://ipic.su/img/img7/fs/AvastNetworkLaptop.1411475300.png)(http://ipic.su/img/img7/tn/AvastNetworkTablet.1411475304.png) (http://ipic.su/img/img7/fs/AvastNetworkTablet.1411475304.png)

By the way, I'm not sure is it ok to write future requests here, but if it is possible it would be great to have touch screen scrolling. I'm not good at explanation, but this video should show what I am talking about
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzd4-Sce76s
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Rompin Raider on September 23, 2014, 06:18:41 PM
Im fed up lol, been on this all bloody day, all im succeeding in is messing up my OS, uninstalled again, and im not bothering until tomorrow.
You need to go on one of Bob's cruises...good stress reliever!!! ;D
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Csicso on September 23, 2014, 08:43:23 PM
will not let go on strartup this program - RAZER CORTEX - blocked.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Para-Noid on September 24, 2014, 12:26:18 AM
@ Toco  GUI>Settings>Tools>click on the "?"

As far as future requests it's too late for this time around.
After v2015 is released avast will "probably" have a "feature request" thread
here https://forum.avast.com/index.php?board=2.0
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Staticguy on September 24, 2014, 01:57:03 AM
An excellent job from Avast Team to bring a new feature called Home Network Security to all of it's Avast products that detects the user's home internet router/modem and connections making sure it's secured. In this DNA age every security products should have this. Couple of weeks ago here in New Zealand had a massive DDoS (Distributed Denial of Service) Attack that came from all over overseas. Bottom line an ISP company blamed customers who didn't have up-to-date modem (old 3rd party modems) that the attackers had gained easy access to their modem and installed malicious softwares and etc malwares without the user's knowledge along with out-dated antimalware security software they had in their computers and the malicious software and malwares had distributed throughout the ISP network. Causing slow connections/ no connections to all customers. This continued for around 1 1/2 weeks. Currently everything is ok now!

Thanks you heaps Avast for bringing up this new feature  :)

 
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Rompin Raider on September 24, 2014, 03:04:27 AM
This beta is running pretty light on my old laptop (Win 7)...Hardened mode..(aggressive) and PUP's on.  Nice job Avast.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Diddy on September 24, 2014, 08:52:45 AM
HI I just wanted to give some feedback on avast Beta2 free if I may.  I must say that avast free Beta 2 has been very stable on my Windows Vista home Basic system this far with no problems at all except for not being able to login through facebook through the account tab witch is on the main page of avast free Beta 2.  For some reason when I put my password in the blank space below my email address and push the login button I get a message saying incorrect password try again.  I did try this for a second time and still I could not login to facebook going through the account tab on the main UI of avast free Beta 2.

Hope this gets fixed real soon avast have a good rest of your week



Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: hectic-mmv on September 24, 2014, 10:00:42 AM
HI I just wanted to give some feedback on avast Beta2 free if I may.  I must say that avast free Beta 2 has been very stable on my Windows Vista home Basic system this far with no problems at all except for not being able to login through facebook through the account tab witch is on the main page of avast free Beta 2.  For some reason when I put my password in the blank space below my email address and push the login button I get a message saying incorrect password try again.  I did try this for a second time and still I could not login to facebook going through the account tab on the main UI of avast free Beta 2.

Hope this gets fixed real soon avast have a good rest of your week

Hi, r u able to login in my.avast account on a my.avast.com web page with your FB account? Looks it works on our site.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: hectic-mmv on September 24, 2014, 10:06:08 AM
An excellent job from Avast Team to bring a new feature called Home Network Security to all of it's Avast products that detects the user's home internet router/modem and connections making sure it's secured. In this DNA age every security products should have this. Couple of weeks ago here in New Zealand had a massive DDoS (Distributed Denial of Service) Attack that came from all over overseas. Bottom line an ISP company blamed customers who didn't have up-to-date modem (old 3rd party modems) that the attackers had gained easy access to their modem and installed malicious softwares and etc malwares without the user's knowledge along with out-dated antimalware security software they had in their computers and the malicious software and malwares had distributed throughout the ISP network. Causing slow connections/ no connections to all customers. This continued for around 1 1/2 weeks. Currently everything is ok now!

Thanks you heaps Avast for bringing up this new feature  :)

Thanks, this is what is HNS intended to be used for.

There is great feedback for NG here, can you guys also try Home Network Security - avast! UI | scan | scan for network problems a share your opinion...
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: bob3160 on September 24, 2014, 10:30:59 AM
This is still not fixed:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1411547424443-16554.png)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Para-Noid on September 24, 2014, 04:54:10 PM
@ hectic-mmv

The "home network scan" seems to work. At least my network doesn't have any issues.
It also shows how many devices are facing the internet. Due to identifiers I did not show them.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: boe323 on September 24, 2014, 08:40:30 PM
Since installing this beta, ive had loads of issues, ive uninstalled ...completely removed it but its screwed up my OS, especially networking, media centre cant update anymore it cant reach the remote server, plus ....my system is lightning fast again like it should be, even malwarebytes premium doesn't slow my system down like avast premier does, is there any plans to to make avast have less of an impact on performance and to stop it breaking networking when you don't want it anymore?. My system isn't a slow one either, and for avast to slow it down is nuts.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Charyb on September 24, 2014, 10:52:49 PM
Since installing this beta, ive had loads of issues, ive uninstalled ...completely removed it but its screwed up my OS, especially networking, media centre cant update anymore it cant reach the remote server, plus ....my system is lightning fast again like it should be, even malwarebytes premium doesn't slow my system down like avast premier does, is there any plans to to make avast have less of an impact on performance and to stop it breaking networking when you don't want it anymore?. My system isn't a slow one either, and for avast to slow it down is nuts.
I'm not having any of these problems and I don't see a bunch of reports of others having these problems. This is probably system specific. You may want to have a look at other security apps that are on your system now and in the past to see if there could be some incompatibility. Including firewalls.

Was this a clean install or did you install over the top of Premier?

You might want to discuss this in your own topic so it doesn't get buried in this one.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Staticguy on September 24, 2014, 11:11:16 PM
An excellent job from Avast Team to bring a new feature called Home Network Security to all of it's Avast products that detects the user's home internet router/modem and connections making sure it's secured. In this DNA age every security products should have this. Couple of weeks ago here in New Zealand had a massive DDoS (Distributed Denial of Service) Attack that came from all over overseas. Bottom line an ISP company blamed customers who didn't have up-to-date modem (old 3rd party modems) that the attackers had gained easy access to their modem and installed malicious softwares and etc malwares without the user's knowledge along with out-dated antimalware security software they had in their computers and the malicious software and malwares had distributed throughout the ISP network. Causing slow connections/ no connections to all customers. This continued for around 1 1/2 weeks. Currently everything is ok now!

Thanks you heaps Avast for bringing up this new feature  :)

Thanks, this is what is HNS intended to be used for.

There is great feedback for NG here, can you guys also try Home Network Security - avast! UI | scan | scan for network problems a share your opinion...

Thanks very much hectic-mmv. I don't test beta programs at all because the risk of my laptop becoming unusable. Once 2015 final comes out. I will share my opinion about the Home Network Security and give feedback. Thanks.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: boe323 on September 25, 2014, 02:54:14 AM
Since installing this beta, ive had loads of issues, ive uninstalled ...completely removed it but its screwed up my OS, especially networking, media centre cant update anymore it cant reach the remote server, plus ....my system is lightning fast again like it should be, even malwarebytes premium doesn't slow my system down like avast premier does, is there any plans to to make avast have less of an impact on performance and to stop it breaking networking when you don't want it anymore?. My system isn't a slow one either, and for avast to slow it down is nuts.
I'm not having any of these problems and I don't see a bunch of reports of others having these problems. This is probably system specific. You may want to have a look at other security apps that are on your system now and in the past to see if there could be some incompatibility. Including firewalls.

Was this a clean install or did you install over the top of Premier?
I tried it on top of 2014 first, then uninstalled and tried, ididnt have any other security apart from built in stuff of windows 8.1 64bit, I never realised how much of a slow down avast is until I uninstalled it, my games loaded in half the time, web pages are now instant, even on first opening, avast premier replaces files on installation which I think is the cause of the networking issues when you remove it.
You might want to discuss this in your own topic so it doesn't get buried in this one.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Tefa on September 25, 2014, 06:44:34 AM
i installed avast internet security beta 2 on anew windows and it slow down my pc very much and start up is really slow i hope to make it more light in my computer has 4 gb ram and processor Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz windows 8.1 pro 64 bit and avast is really slow on my system
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Sarah-T on September 25, 2014, 02:39:00 PM
Hello,

It's impossible to participate to the beta test if you are using Windows XP Service Pack 1. Are you aware of this issue? Thanks.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: pk on September 25, 2014, 03:17:03 PM
It's impossible to participate to the beta test if you are using Windows XP Service Pack 1. Are you aware of this issue? Thanks.
@Sarah-T: Yes, please upgrade to XP SP2 or SP3. This is minimum OS requirement for avast! antivirus.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Secondmineboy on September 25, 2014, 08:04:27 PM
Avast 2015 Beta 2 Test video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeCFFtLlOko
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Charyb on September 25, 2014, 08:15:51 PM
Avast 2015 Beta 2 Test video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeCFFtLlOko (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeCFFtLlOko)

Once again, the opening topic states:
Note: In this beta build, not all detections are 100% operable yet, so I wouldn't recommend using the new DeepScreen for detection testing for now. It will be 100% operable in the next couple of weeks - we will certainly let you know when is the good time to start testing with your malware collections


This has been mentioned before and you make a video of the beta anyway and haven't left any details of what avast mentioned in the opening topic.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Secondmineboy on September 25, 2014, 08:23:02 PM
Well you can find out where it is leaking on malware :)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Dumi86 on September 25, 2014, 09:48:12 PM
When are definitive Avast 2015 appearances expected?  :)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: bob3160 on September 25, 2014, 09:59:58 PM
When are definitive Avast 2015 appearances expected?  :)
Welcome to the forum.
As soon as it's ready. This is still a beta and only beta 2. :)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Dumi86 on September 25, 2014, 10:05:42 PM
Hi.thank you for the info. Will be/expected even newer beta?  :)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Para-Noid on September 25, 2014, 10:16:36 PM
Probably.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: boe323 on September 25, 2014, 11:13:06 PM
clean install of windows 8.1 64, virtualbox failed with missing component that it cant find, failed to get the asw_VBoxNetFlt component, error (0x1), this is stopping me from getting a fully working vm with shortcuts I presume. Also usblib host
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: boe323 on September 26, 2014, 01:16:38 AM
ok, so I still have the beta installed but ive disabled the com servicefor vbox until someone can give me a workaround for the non shortcuts issue and the lack of installed additions, the vhd images wont even open as there corrupted on everybuild.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: TrueIndian on September 26, 2014, 04:36:50 AM
Well you can find out where it is leaking on malware :)

Steve,its still pretty useless to test something which is not ready yet.I will wait beta 3 when everything becomes ready.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: claudiuc on September 26, 2014, 09:06:57 AM
If you have a 64 bit system, the message doesn't show at all.  I can only see the message on my 32 bit systems.
@bob3160: looking at source code, it should work also on 64-bit OSes (displaying own text during booting phase is quite a hack, so I'll check your OS), thanks

@pk: It is possible to change email "signature" for outgoing mails to specify avast version used (avast free/pro/is/premier) instead of "avast antivirus"?
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Vladimyr on September 26, 2014, 12:18:38 PM
If you have a 64 bit system, the message doesn't show at all.  I can only see the message on my 32 bit systems.
@bob3160: looking at source code, it should work also on 64-bit OSes (displaying own text during booting phase is quite a hack, so I'll check your OS), thanks

@pk: It is possible to change email "signature" for outgoing mails to specify avast version used (avast free/pro/is/premier) instead of "avast antivirus"?

I second that!
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Vladimyr on September 26, 2014, 12:21:40 PM
When are definitive Avast 2015 appearances expected?  :)

It's probably a rare glitch but I'm already being offered the beta as a new version on one machine!!
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: boe323 on September 26, 2014, 02:13:15 PM
Im getting this when trying to create vm's

 
VirtualBox COM Server 4.3.16_OSE r386 win.amd64 (Sep 15 2014 19:05:02) release log
00:00:00.000000 main     Log opened 2014-09-26T10:18:22.832428200Z
00:00:00.000000 main     Build Type: release
00:00:00.000000 main     OS Product: Windows 8.1
00:00:00.000000 main     OS Release: 6.3.9600
00:00:00.000000 main     OS Service Pack:
00:00:00.015623 main     DMI Product Name: To be filled by O.E.M.
00:00:00.015623 main     DMI Product Version: To be filled by O.E.M.
00:00:00.015623 main     Host RAM: 16302MB total, 14811MB available
00:00:00.015623 main     Executable: C:\Program Files\AVAST Software\Avast\ng\vbox\AvastVBoxSVC.exe
00:00:00.015623 main     Process ID: 4468
00:00:00.015623 main     Package type: WINDOWS_64BITS_GENERIC (OSE)
00:00:00.078149          Loading settings file "C:\ProgramData/AVAST Software\Avast\ng\.VirtualBox\VirtualBox.xml" with version "1.12-windows"
00:00:00.078149          USBLibInit: USB Service not found
00:00:00.078149          failed to get the asw_VBoxNetFlt component, error (0x1)
00:00:00.093752          HostDnsMonitorProxy: Host's DNS information updated:
00:00:00.093752          DNS server 1: 192.168.1.2
00:00:00.093752          DNS domain: home
00:00:00.140630          VDInit finished
00:00:00.156276          ERROR [COM]: aRC=E_FAIL (0x80004005) aIID={22720e52-8a45-4a8e-a731-6ca7c7e97c42} aComponent={SystemProperties} aText={Cannot determine default Guest Additions ISO location. Most likely they are not available}, preserve=false
00:00:00.187508          Loading settings file "C:\ProgramData\AVAST Software\Avast\ng\NgBase\NgBase.vbox" with version "1.14-windows"
00:00:00.203155          Loading settings file "C:\ProgramData\AVAST Software\Avast\ng\Ng_58346309-5ace-407e-8f2d-3ad2fd9e0a3d\Ng_58346309-5ace-407e-8f2d-3ad2fd9e0a3d.vbox" with version "1.14-windows"
00:00:00.234405          Loading settings file "C:\ProgramData\AVAST Software\Avast\ng\Ng_7ad51b1d-075a-4fc1-b763-a54a8378bfe8\Ng_7ad51b1d-075a-4fc1-b763-a54a8378bfe8.vbox" with version "1.14-windows"
00:00:00.250009          Loading settings file "C:\ProgramData\AVAST Software\Avast\ng\Ng_23d36fe6-36cb-4db3-a3c9-4bb7be4776a7\Ng_23d36fe6-36cb-4db3-a3c9-4bb7be4776a7.vbox" with version "1.14-windows"
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: bob3160 on September 26, 2014, 02:14:19 PM
If you have a 64 bit system, the message doesn't show at all.  I can only see the message on my 32 bit systems.
@bob3160: looking at source code, it should work also on 64-bit OSes (displaying own text during booting phase is quite a hack, so I'll check your OS), thanks

@pk: It is possible to change email "signature" for outgoing mails to specify avast version used (avast free/pro/is/premier) instead of "avast antivirus"?

I second that!
Just to be clear, my post had nothing to do with email notifications but referred to the boot notification.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: boe323 on September 26, 2014, 02:14:55 PM
someone help, before I did a clean install, it worked, I got 3 icons, now since the clean install of windows 8.1 64bit I cant get it to work lol, which is nuts, you'd think it would be the other way round. Please don't let me loose 32 games for nothing lol. I cant disable ng, it keeps making vm's even though ive turned deepscreen and vm off.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Vladimyr on September 26, 2014, 02:40:21 PM
Just to be clear, my post had nothing to do with email notifications but referred to the boot notification.

Sorry Bob. I should read or quote (or both) more carefully  :-[
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: claudiuc on September 26, 2014, 03:54:14 PM
Just to be clear, my post had nothing to do with email notifications but referred to the boot notification.

Sorry Bob. I should read or quote (or both) more carefully  :-[

Indeed, but I like to see both features (boot and email) implemented :)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Nicola9 on September 27, 2014, 12:25:39 AM
Hi,

but the license for the beta versions is active only for 30 days?
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: DavidR on September 27, 2014, 12:37:03 AM
Hi,

but the license for the beta versions is active only for 30 days?

You don't say what avast version you have or how you installed the beta version ?

If you did a clean install of the beta, then it would be running effectively in trial mode until you registered or applied your license/activation code. That said 30 days in most cases should be enough to see the beta through to completion. This particular beta2 build has only been out a week.

Even if the overall duration is more than 30 days, it will probably be OK after that.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Nicola9 on September 27, 2014, 12:49:56 AM
Hi,

but the license for the beta versions is active only for 30 days?

You don't say what avast version you have or how you installed the beta version ?

If you did a clean install of the beta, then it would be running effectively in trial mode until you registered or applied your license/activation code. That said 30 days in most cases should be enough to see the beta through to completion. This particular beta2 build has only been out a week.

Even if the overall duration is more than 30 days, it will probably be OK after that.

I have installed Avast Premier Beta. So, when a new build is out, the license will renew?
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: DavidR on September 27, 2014, 12:57:19 AM
Hi,

but the license for the beta versions is active only for 30 days?

You don't say what avast version you have or how you installed the beta version ?

If you did a clean install of the beta, then it would be running effectively in trial mode until you registered or applied your license/activation code. That said 30 days in most cases should be enough to see the beta through to completion. This particular beta2 build has only been out a week.

Even if the overall duration is more than 30 days, it will probably be OK after that.

I have installed Avast Premier Beta. So, when a new build is out, the license will renew?

If the license is still in date then when an update of the beta or regular release of avast (not a beta). You didn't say if this beta2 build was a clean install or an install over a previous Avast Premier version or Avast Premier Beta1 version ?

What it won't do is give you a license that you haven't paid for after any trial period (typically 30 days) ends.

Did you formerly have Avast Premier installed and did you have and apply the license for it ?
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Nicola9 on September 27, 2014, 01:01:28 AM
Hi,

but the license for the beta versions is active only for 30 days?

You don't say what avast version you have or how you installed the beta version ?

If you did a clean install of the beta, then it would be running effectively in trial mode until you registered or applied your license/activation code. That said 30 days in most cases should be enough to see the beta through to completion. This particular beta2 build has only been out a week.

Even if the overall duration is more than 30 days, it will probably be OK after that.

I have installed Avast Premier Beta. So, when a new build is out, the license will renew?

If the license is still in date then when an update of the beta or regular release of avast (not a beta). You didn't say if this beta2 build was a clean install or an install over a previous Avast Premier version or Avast Premier Beta1 version ?

What it won't do is give you a license that you haven't paid for after any trial period (typically 30 days) ends.

Did you formerly have Avast Premier installed and did you have and apply the license for it ?

I did a clean install of beta2 build premiere.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: TerraX on September 27, 2014, 01:05:27 AM
The license is valid for 30 days, no matter which version you use ... beta or stable version.

TerraX
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: DavidR on September 27, 2014, 03:32:08 PM
<snip some quotes>
If the license is still in date then when an update of the beta or regular release of avast (not a beta). You didn't say if this beta2 build was a clean install or an install over a previous Avast Premier version or Avast Premier Beta1 version ?

What it won't do is give you a license that you haven't paid for after any trial period (typically 30 days) ends.

Did you formerly have Avast Premier installed and did you have and apply the license for it ?

I did a clean install of beta2 build premiere.

Yes, a clean would result in a 30 day trial period (as it has no reference to the previous version), until you input the license/authorisation code for avast Premier.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: iroc9555 on September 27, 2014, 04:32:13 PM
I am wondering. Does avast! send invitation by e-mail to try out the beta programs ? and if it does to whom ?

I am asking because I've got a post in the Spanish forum by an Avira user who says he got one.
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=154937.msg1128850#msg1128850
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Asyn on September 27, 2014, 04:35:45 PM
Does avast! send invitation by e-mail to try out the beta programs ?
Don't think so, at least I've never heard of it.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: iroc9555 on September 27, 2014, 04:38:12 PM
Does avast! send invitation by e-mail to try out the beta programs ?
Don't think so, at least I've never heard of it.

That is what I thought. Well unless one is a beta tester and may be, I suppose, avast! would notify of the new beta, I think.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Asyn on September 27, 2014, 04:43:58 PM
Well unless one is a beta tester and may be, I suppose, avast! would notify of the new beta, I think.
Never got such a note.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: bob3160 on September 27, 2014, 05:12:29 PM
NO - Posted here in the forum and on their Blog.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: iroc9555 on September 27, 2014, 05:14:22 PM
NO - Posted here in the forum and on their Blog.

Thanks Bob.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: bob3160 on September 27, 2014, 05:15:00 PM
 :)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: boe323 on September 27, 2014, 08:16:38 PM
managed to create shortcuts atlast, however, the vms wont open lol, pointless haha.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: bob3160 on September 27, 2014, 09:01:42 PM
managed to create shortcuts atlast, however, the vms wont open lol, pointless haha.
Starting your own topic in the Beta Section instead of posting in the middle of this large topic.
That will probably get you some meaningful help. :)
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: boe323 on September 27, 2014, 09:04:48 PM
its ok, managed to get things working atlast, im using the google chrome vm now, have to run as admin each time, yaaaayy !!. Would be nice to save a few settings for the browsers though, like my sync and bookmarks. Uses a pooh load of memory, i wouldnt advice using on a machine with less that 4GB, its using 30% of 16GB.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: bob3160 on September 27, 2014, 09:10:50 PM
That's not solving the problem but bypassing it.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: boe323 on September 27, 2014, 09:27:01 PM
Well ..it works, its just not getting its own privilages so no harm in me giving them, probably never even use them lol, just wanted to get it working. Setting avast VBOX com service to auto(delayed) fixes the login issue where it sort of hangs for a bit with a yellow triangle on the network icon, setting it to auto delayed stops it and boot up becomes normal. Don't know if its because its a beta but my licence wont show in my avast account and also reports no security is enabled. Oh yes ...and the vm's keyboard settings are US and cant be changed.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: propheticus on September 29, 2014, 08:25:19 PM
With this latest Beta I thought I'd check whether the firewall issues had been finally fixed.
Alas, I still have the DPC latency issue when the Avast firewall is installed. This is a totally new system, but the Avast Firewall produces the exact same issue.
Uninstalled it and enabled the Windows 8.1 default firewall and all is well again.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: bob3160 on September 29, 2014, 08:51:42 PM
With this latest Beta I thought I'd check whether the firewall issues had been finally fixed.
Alas, I still have the DPC latency issue when the Avast firewall is installed. This is a totally new system, but the Avast Firewall produces the exact same issue.
Uninstalled it and enabled the Windows 8.1 default firewall and all is well again.
I'm also still not using the firewall in IS and Premiere. It's using to much resources.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: heikwith on September 30, 2014, 09:04:46 AM
I saw something strange in my Vista system protected with avast Free v9.0.2021.515 Final.
In my Firefox v33 beta I was automatic offered to install avast online security extension 9.0.2022.113, but when I accepted it to install, the installation goes wrong.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: bob3160 on September 30, 2014, 02:44:52 PM
As you can see it works without problems on my system:
(http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1412080963337-69647.png)
You didn't say what went wrong or what happened when you attempted to install it.
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: Arnold8 on September 30, 2014, 06:14:12 PM
Will this integrate with the AEA functionality, or is this only for a standalone installation.

Thank you
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: boe323 on September 30, 2014, 06:24:41 PM
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With this latest Beta I thought I'd check whether the firewall issues had been finally fixed.
Alas, I still have the DPC latency issue when the Avast firewall is installed. This is a totally new system, but the Avast Firewall produces the exact same issue.
Uninstalled it and enabled the Windows 8.1 default firewall and all is well again.
I'm also still not using the firewall in IS and Premiere. It's using to much resources.
I have windows 8.1 and avast premier firewall only uses 5.5meg, hardly ever any cpu usage, and no disk usage, cant see how that uses to much resource, plus dpc latency is the same on my pc, try enabling hpet. BETA 3 is up!!!!
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: heikwith on September 30, 2014, 07:29:53 PM
As you can see it works without problems on my system:
You didn't say what went wrong or what happened when you attempted to install it.
Bob, the difference is that you are already running with avast!2015.10.0.2022 Free and I am still running with avast Free v9.0.2021.515 Final.
The current version of avast online security extension here in FF33 is 9.0.2021.112
I don't use automatic extension updating.
I need to click on "check for updates", but before I can do that, the wrong(?) update for extension 9.0.2022.113 comes automaticly on the extension screen.
So there are 2 bugs: the update should not be given automaticly and the updating goes wrong.
It happens not always, so I have to wait until it happens again, and then I will make a screenprint of the update error
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: pk on September 30, 2014, 07:57:48 PM
Beta3 released, link: https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=155794.msg1129900#msg1129900
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: lehsus74 on October 18, 2014, 04:17:49 PM
антивирус не ставится на windows 10 техническая
Title: Re: AVAST 2015 Beta2 (10.0.2200)
Post by: DavidR on October 18, 2014, 04:23:00 PM
антивирус не ставится на windows 10 техническая

It isn't compatible with Windows 10 Technical Preview.
Он не совместим с ОС Windows 10 Technical Preview.

Avast is now on 10.0.2204 RC3 - this topic is old.
Avast теперь на 10.0.2204 RC3 - эта тема старая.