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Title: virus update sound
Post by: krypton on November 24, 2014, 11:45:30 AM
hello

when my virus database updates then it do not shows any pop up window and no sound.why this happening?
Title: Re: virus update sound
Post by: Eddy on November 24, 2014, 11:52:25 AM
Please use the search option before posting.
It has been explained that avast removed the pop-ups and sound a lot of times already.
Title: Re: virus update sound
Post by: krypton on November 24, 2014, 12:09:41 PM
if avast removed popups and sounds then why there is option to tick mark in sounds tab and there is ticked mark on automatic update.

if avast has removed this option to pop up and sound when virus definitions is updated then that option should also remove.because its of no use. i like that sound and pop up so i want to enable it
Title: Re: virus update sound
Post by: Pondus on November 24, 2014, 12:15:40 PM
There are other popups and sounds ..... Like threat detected.  ;)

Title: Re: virus update sound
Post by: DavidR on November 24, 2014, 05:09:18 PM
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if avast has removed this option to pop up and sound when virus definitions is updated then that option should also remove.because its of no use. i like that sound and pop up so i want to enable it

Leaving the auto update notification options was an error it too should have been removed.

That said there are many, many users who feel this should never have been removed - a little like a security blanket - and something unique to avast.

There are even some at avast that aren't convinced it should have been removed. So we may even see it back ;D
Title: Re: virus update sound
Post by: schmidthouse on November 24, 2014, 05:45:53 PM
There are many of us "counting" on seeing that iconic feature back soooooon.  8)
Title: Re: virus update sound
Post by: Pondus on November 24, 2014, 05:54:26 PM
 @schmidthouse

i may be wrong, but guessing VPS updates will be gone in future versions, meaning only stream updates evry 5-15 minutes like Norton have done

that would mean a ton of popups evry day, some may consider that popup spam   ;)



Title: Re: virus update sound
Post by: Gopher John on November 24, 2014, 06:17:00 PM
@schmidthouse

i may be wrong, but guessing VPS updates will be gone in future versions, meaning only stream updates evry 5-15 minutes like Norton have done

that would mean a ton of popups evry day, some may consider that popup spam   ;)

That would require a major rework of how streaming updates are maintained.  The streaming updates would grow so as to be a huge burden.  VPS updates incorporate the past streaming updates, and the streaming updates are then deleted.  Previously, the VPS update popup was only shown at most a few times per day.  That is all that most people want to return to.  No one has said anything about having a popup for each streaming update.
Title: Re: virus update sound
Post by: schmidthouse on November 24, 2014, 06:19:53 PM
@schmidthouse

i may be wrong, but guessing VPS updates will be gone in future versions, meaning only stream updates evry 5-15 minutes like Norton have done

that would mean a ton of popups evry day, some may consider that popup spam   ;)

Thanks Pondus, I get that,
 however there is no doubt a way to incorporate the 'iconic voice" announcement, that all is updated/up to date>
In any case, I happen to be one that does miss the voice in 2015.
However, given the version I'm running, its all good. ;) :)
Title: Re: virus update sound
Post by: Pondus on November 24, 2014, 06:23:11 PM
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In any case, I happen to be one that does miss the voice in 2015.
yepp everyone has its own taste, i like it totally silent and popup free .... unless it detect something


Title: Re: virus update sound
Post by: schmidthouse on November 24, 2014, 06:30:02 PM
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In any case, I happen to be one that does miss the voice in 2015.
yepp everyone has its own taste, i like it totally silent and popup free .... unless it detect something

Yah fair enough. I think that's why there was/is an "option" to not have the announcement; for those who like it quiet.
Title: Re: virus update sound
Post by: DavidR on November 24, 2014, 06:57:07 PM
@schmidthouse

i may be wrong, but guessing VPS updates will be gone in future versions, meaning only stream updates evry 5-15 minutes like Norton have done

that would mean a ton of popups evry day, some may consider that popup spam   ;)

No one has even mentioned that streaming updates should have a notification and certainly not avast - that would be absolutely bonkers. People, avast users are asking for the old VPS update notifications to remain as they were.

That status quo would mean that users can switch it of if they don't want it - so both sides are catered for.
Title: Re: virus update sound
Post by: Pondus on November 24, 2014, 07:27:15 PM
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No one has even mentioned that streaming updates should have a notification and certainly not avast
what i mean to say is that IF avast is moving in that direction (stream only) then there will be no more popup/sound .... and maybe that is why they have done it, to  prepare us for what is comming?




Title: Re: virus update sound
Post by: DavidR on November 24, 2014, 08:41:13 PM
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No one has even mentioned that streaming updates should have a notification and certainly not avast

what i mean to say is that IF avast is moving in that direction (stream only) then there will be no more popup/sound .... and maybe that is why they have done it, to  prepare us for what is comming?

I tend not to speculate on what avast are likely to do or not.

As I have already mentioned if we aren't getting the regular VPS update, then people don't know if the streaming updates are working either, without having to check manually and doing that is hardly a one click option. I have that as a Rocket Dock shortcut to the Defs folder - but should we have to get creative to find out.
Title: Re: virus update sound
Post by: krypton on November 25, 2014, 04:36:42 AM
i like the voice of avast that says when automatic update is done.it lets me know that my avast running fine and lets me know that database is updated. but now i have to see every day when i connect to internet that avast is updated today?

avast popup and that sound when virus database updated is so good and attractive voice so i like to enable it but i hope it will come back.

i do not know why avast removed it. even there is an option to disable it. if some peeps do not like it then they can simply disable it.
 ::)

Title: Re: virus update sound
Post by: Pondus on November 25, 2014, 05:26:23 PM
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i like the voice of avast that says when automatic update is done.it lets me know that my avast running fine and lets me know that database is updated. but now i have to see every day when i connect to internet that avast is updated today?
No you dont, like other AV that dont have update popup/sound .... there will be a popup if something is wrong



Title: Re: virus update sound
Post by: REDACTED on November 26, 2014, 06:14:35 AM
if avast removed popups and sounds then why there is option to tick mark in sounds tab and there is ticked mark on automatic update.

if avast has removed this option to pop up and sound when virus definitions is updated then that option should also remove.because its of no use. i like that sound and pop up so i want to enable it
That is an astute and proper observation.  Well said.

It's been going on for a month now.

What does it say about the prowess and discipline of an engineering organization when they either

1) remove a feature but don't bother to take the configuration option for it out of the UI

-or-

2) break a feature and say it was removed on purpose 

-and-

3) whatever the reason leave it broken for more than a month?

-Noel
Title: Re: virus update sound
Post by: DavidR on November 26, 2014, 04:35:19 PM
One of the avast team has already said it was removed in yet another topic related to this , but leaving the UI options was an omission.

There was also a topic in Wilders about the removal of the auto update notification and that was also confirmed by a senior avast team member. There was also a comment about if its removal was a good idea or not.

Speculation isn't helpful.
Title: Re: virus update sound
Post by: krypton on November 27, 2014, 06:04:36 AM
One of the avast team has already said it was removed in yet another topic related to this , but leaving the UI options was an omission.

There was also a topic in Wilders about the removal of the auto update notification and that was also confirmed by a senior avast team member. There was also a comment about if its removal was a good idea or not.

Speculation isn't helpful.
what is the forum link of that topic?i want to comment my opinion if it accepts the opinion for that  update sound.
Title: Re: virus update sound
Post by: DavidR on November 27, 2014, 03:52:13 PM
Sorry I haven't got it copied anywhere it is from memory - to find it I would have to do a forum search just like you would.
Title: Re: virus update sound
Post by: schmidthouse on November 27, 2014, 05:56:34 PM
Yes, I read that comment by VLK in wilders, while it was short it was to the point, basically posing the question as whether removing/eliminating the "iconic voice" update notice was a good idea,
Title: Re: virus update sound
Post by: REDACTED on November 29, 2014, 01:00:17 AM
One of the avast team has already said it was removed in yet another topic related to this , but leaving the UI options was an omission.
You believe everything people say, do you?

No speculation was involved.  I asked a simple question, giving the several possible scenarios.

-Noel
Title: Re: virus update sound
Post by: DavidR on November 29, 2014, 01:11:48 AM
One of the avast team has already said it was removed in yet another topic related to this , but leaving the UI options was an omission.
You believe everything people say, do you?

No speculation was involved.  I asked a simple question, giving the several possible scenarios.

-Noel

I don't believe everything that people say, certainly not until I get some idea of the person or company, etc. But I don't distrust everything that people say.

I believe that after over 10 years using avast and on forums for about the same time - I give at the very least the benefit of doubt.

You say No speculation was involved - items 2 and 3 are pure speculation as you have absolutely no proof that either was the case.

If you so mistrust avast, then perhaps it is time to look elsewhere for someone to trust.
Title: Re: virus update sound
Post by: REDACTED on November 30, 2014, 05:26:49 AM
Already done.  Ditched Avast a week+ ago on my main workstation and my computing experience has been better for it.  I still have it on my test systems, though, but I'm considering removing it from the one running Win 8.1.

Perhaps your definition of "speculation" and mine apparently differ.  Between items 1 and 2 I've covered every possibility, and item 3 is a given.  Or are you arguing that the announcement HASN'T been removed for a month while the UI still shows it as configurable?

I didn't make a rash decision.  I had 10 years of experience with Avast too, but it counts for exactly what when the last 6 months indicates a change of the tide?  Give it time, you'll perceive it too.

-Noel
Title: Re: virus update sound
Post by: CraigB on November 30, 2014, 05:42:16 AM
NoelC@ you obviously haven't covered all possibilities as you are misinterpreting the information given and then further speculating ::) though the voice for updates has been removed there are still sounds for other actions like threats detected and such so that is why there is still the option to disable sounds in settings.
Title: Re: virus update sound
Post by: REDACTED on November 30, 2014, 05:31:30 PM
Misinterpreting, eh? 

I'm game - what do YOU think the setting shown in the attached image means / does?

Since folks often feel comfortable suggesting I stop posting in this forum, I'll do the same.  If you don't have something useful or factual to add here, how about not adding anything?

-Noel
Title: Re: virus update sound
Post by: CraigB on November 30, 2014, 05:51:05 PM
As it has already been explained that was a minor overlook on the new version, no rush to remove it now until a new version is released.

Talking factual statements nothing you have mentioned here has not been said and answered before.
Title: Re: virus update sound
Post by: REDACTED on November 30, 2014, 06:12:42 PM
"Minor overlook", eh?

This company makes ONE product.  There are a limited number of settings - maybe less than 100 in total.

How does an engineer manage a "minor overlook" of the UI setting when he removes one of the product's trademark features?  How does the testing organization miss it?

I don't care about this specific issue.  But when combined with other indications, what does it say about the discipline and level of care in engineering and product testing within the company we might choose to trust to keep our systems safe and stable?

I can keep answering fanboy posts ad infinitum.

-Noel
Title: Re: virus update sound
Post by: CraigB on November 30, 2014, 06:24:50 PM
 ;D ;D ;D fanboy  ;D ;D ;D you are sadly misinformed, I'm not making excuses for them as it was an oversight but it's nothing to get worked up on and worry your little mind over.

You've already stated that you have changed one of your systems to some other AV and will shortly be changing another so instead of hanging around here trolling I suggest you get busy on that second system ;)
Title: Re: virus update sound
Post by: Lisandro on November 30, 2014, 06:35:10 PM
Isn't anything good at the television right now?  ???
Title: Re: virus update sound
Post by: CraigB on November 30, 2014, 06:37:27 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: virus update sound
Post by: REDACTED on November 30, 2014, 07:37:31 PM
I knew that the suggestions to stop posting would come.  Rest assured I'm not starting any new threads, just responding to those I've been in.

Thanks for reminding me.  Avast is now fully removed from my second Win 8.1 system.

-Noel
Title: Re: virus update sound
Post by: Lisandro on November 30, 2014, 10:51:36 PM
Avast is now fully removed from my second Win 8.1 system.
R.I.P.