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Other => General Topics => Topic started by: MWassef on September 04, 2005, 07:57:19 PM
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KPF: End of Life December 31st 2005 (http://forums.kerio.com/index.php?t=msg&th=7040&start=0&S=5d26a1794ace0ec84774cafcc7e61865) ::) ??? :( :'(
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OK, what a sh** is going on??? >:( I can't believe they are going just to "cut off" KPF. I think there should be something more... :-\
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Yes, they got taken over by Eset NOD last week
Fast.
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See http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=16155.msg136678#msg136678
And other forum link: http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=95880
Two bad news together:
Sygate (firewall) sold to Symantec.
Kerio will stop.
We'll stay with ZA and Outpost... :-\ :'(
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We'll stay with ZA and Outpost... :-\ :'(
And this:
http://www.netveda.com/consumer/safetynet.html
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And this: http://www.netveda.com/consumer/safetynet.html
As far I know, it's not free :P
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And this: http://www.netveda.com/consumer/safetynet.html
As far I know, it's not free :P
Actually I heard that Saftey.Net.3.6.1 is free
http://www.netveda.com/consumer/safetynet.htm
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Yes, just as Avast! it's free for home use :
http://www.snapfiles.com/get/netvadanet.html
Fast
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See http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=16155.msg136678#msg136678
I did not notice this post :-[
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Ok, just changed my Kerio to NetVeda. Seems ok right now. Easy to use and it works here. ZA causes a lot of conflicts (not related to avast), like New hardware found (something like SIS port, first time in my PC life) and also it encounters a problem and need to shut down. Strange, as my system was reinstalled less than month ago, so it's quite fresh and clean. But ZA not works here. Kerio was the only one firewall which worked perfectly. :'( But seems NetVeda works smooth and clean here: just 5 minutes and I think I've ended configuration. But anyone uses it? I'd be gratefull for any comments from you. ;)
One review from NET
Pros: NETVEDA is the best free firewall you can get!! You can block almost anything from going in or out of your network. Like for an example if you dont want anyone accessing pornography or any offensive material on your computer, then all you do is go to the PICS RATINGs and set it accordantly. Which stops the all access to anything on the checked list. IT WONT EVEN LET YOU SEACH FOR IT ON A SEACH ENGINE LIKE GOOGLE.COM!! Another neat ability is the RESTRICT ACCESS TIME. Which the name says it all. Some more features are access control, application control, web filter, erase content and many more to unique controlling option to try out.
Cons: There isn't really anything unappealing about this software but they could make their GUI a bit more fancy
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Wow, you're fast ;D
Well, on the Wilders.org security forums there are lots of Netveda users and no one of them has bad experiences with it.
I guess we'll see more users in our forums switching in the near future so just wait...
Fast
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o man that sucks,got used to kerio and now this,i think ill try netveda,i had serious problems with zone alarm(which i like)and had nothing to do with webshield,thanks for the info on kerio,bri
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Bri,
Actually, you will like Safety Net which is definetly free for home use. It is very stable and runs well "out of the box". It is HIGHLY configurable, so don't mess with the rules unless you know what is being done.
It has replaced ZA on a few of my machines.
As for Sygate......
Even though it is now gone over to Symantec, there isn't any mention of discontinuing it.
Good luck ;)
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It's Kerio server firewall thats being discountinued NOT the personal firewall.http://www.kerio.com/ksf_home.html
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timcan, look at the first msg in this thread, SF + PF although kerio's web site notices only SF
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trying out netveda now i like the options,i like the internet content filter you can set for different users good for my son.yup its free
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using netveda now webshield is not scanning(i cant have that) ;D anyone using it?
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using netveda now webshield is not scanning(i cant have that)
Why not, is this something to do with netveda and web shield or a personal system issue?
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well i had kerio installed with avast about an hour ago and webshield was working fine now i installed netveda and webshield is not scanning?i didnt change anything with system settings.i guess it has something to do with netveda?anyone having this problem?
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We'll stay with ZA and Outpost... :-\ :'(
there is this as well
http://www.filseclab.com/eng/products/firewall.htm
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Just so it is clear to all.....
Kerio Personal IS being discontinued.
As per the Kerio bulletin:
Kerio Technologies has grown into a significant player in both security and messaging markets. We have achieved many accolades, and we have many satisfied customers all over the world.
Kerio now employs over one hundred people in our three offices worldwide. We want to continue to deliver products that you enjoy to use. We made a promise to give our customers the best products in their category. And that means implementing some changes in our product strategy.
During the second half of this year, Kerio will be discontinuing two host-based security products from our portfolio – Kerio ServerFirewall and Kerio Personal Firewall.
Kerio Personal Firewall will be discontinued as of December 31, 2005. It will not be available for purchase after this date. Subscriptions will not be renewed. Technical support will be provided to all customers with valid subscriptions until the end of 2006.
Thank you for your support of Kerio.
Sorry but true....
Techie
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I believe it says so in the name of this topic... that's Minacross (MHG) started it in the first place... ;D
KPF: End of Life December 31st 2005 (http://forums.kerio.com/index.php?t=msg&th=7040&start=0&S=5d26a1794ace0ec84774cafcc7e61865) ::) ??? :( :'(
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Oh no :'( What am i suppose to use now?Kerio and Sygate were my favorite firewalls :-\
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*cough*
Zone Alarm free firewall (http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/catalog/products/sku_list_za.jsp?dc=12bms&ctry=US&lang=en&lid=dbtopnav_zass)
;D
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*cough*
Zone Alarm free firewall (http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/catalog/products/sku_list_za.jsp?dc=12bms&ctry=US&lang=en&lid=dbtopnav_zass)
;D
I used it in the past but i had some problems with my bittorrent downloads ???
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*cough*
Zone Alarm free firewall (http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/catalog/products/sku_list_za.jsp?dc=12bms&ctry=US&lang=en&lid=dbtopnav_zass)
;D
I used it in the past but i had some problems with my bittorrent downloads ???
Oh okay, you can also try Jettico Personal firewall, heres the website:
Jettico (http://www.jetico.com/index.htm#/jpfirewall.htm) They have a free version somewhere in their website. :)
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*cough*
Zone Alarm free firewall (http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/catalog/products/sku_list_za.jsp?dc=12bms&ctry=US&lang=en&lid=dbtopnav_zass)
;D
I used it in the past but i had some problems with my bittorrent downloads ???
Oh okay, you can also try Jettico Personal firewall, heres the website:
Jettico (http://www.jetico.com/index.htm#/jpfirewall.htm) They have a free version somewhere in their website. :)
Thanks but i'll stick with Kerio for a couple months i'll check out this Jetico though :)
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I'm broken! My favourite firewall is going to GO!
Needing crisis control here! :'(
I don't want to use ZA cos their support is awful when something goes wrong (like the time an update crashed 2,000,000 computers). Yes, mine was one. Sygate's owned by The Dark Side (humour only guys!) and i could never really figure Outpost OUT so I'll be interested to learn what you think of these alternatives. Meanwhile I'll stay with Kerio until I recover from this shock.
All sympathetic messages appreciated.
droll kakapo
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im also a bit sad about kpf `s demise, terrible shame. :-\
currently giving jettico a whirl and it seems simple enough.
more so than than the safety net option anyway. 8)
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well i had kerio installed with avast about an hour ago and webshield was working fine now i installed netveda and webshield is not scanning?i didnt change anything with system settings.i guess it has something to do with netveda?anyone having this problem?
I can't remember when but there was something about approved browsers for web shield to avoid conflicts with strange and exotic browsers (which may not conform to standards) that you have to optin to get them to work with web shield. Perhaps there is something like this with netveda?
@ other posts relating to switching
I can't understand why there is an immediate rush to abandon Kerio just because it has been purchased by another company.
1. it doesn't stop you using the program it will still work.
2. people can still get it up to the December deadline, so ensure you have the latest version with updates/patches, etc.
3. some are suggesting outpost 1.0 (the free version), this stopped being developed years ago, but is still available and a perfectly functioning firewall. So the same could be true of Kerio if it is a good firewall now it will be for some time, firewall exploits are not anything as frequent as browsers and OSes, etc.
4. there are plenty of other free options out there and plenty of time to choose a replacement.
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I can't understand why there is an immediate rush to abandon Kerio just because it has been purchased by another company.
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I believe Kerio is being discontinued, not transfered to some other company... that's the case with Sygate. Kerio will be completely shut down... Of course it will still work, but there will be no updates at all, and after some time people will be on their own. Especialy those which have no clue why updating of such a product is that important... many newbies or not that computer security literate people out there, so that's my main concern...
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I used it in the past but i had some problems with my bittorrent downloads ???
Miha, absolutely no problems with torrent downloads nor with any other kind of P2P transfer. Remember ? You advised me to start using Azureus ? ;) No problems at all, and I have to say, tens of times faster than any other sharing utility out there.
Also, direct downloads with BitTorrent works perfect, even without a need to open some specific ports in my router... it's done automatically because I use a wonderful feature in my router called UPnP.
If you want me to go further than that... LimeWire works perfect as well, never ever had problems with Kazaa Lite on my old machine...
I'm telling you, you will NOT have any problems with torrents. I am happy ZoneAlarm Free Edition user, although I am not that happy with that company's politics, but oh my... what can we do ? No one is perfect, so they are not perfect either. ;) But speaking about great firewall that covers some areas for which some other firewalls have naver heard, that's the beauty inside the beast ;D
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Yes I'm aware of that, but it's the frequency of updates due to security issues with kerio that I don't believe are many, especially when compared wit outpost 1.0 which stopped development years ago, yet many are happily using that.
For the most part newbies have as much of a problem with allowing (serious potential for harm) or blocking everything that their firewall pops-up because they haven't a clue (newbie) what the information presented means. This in my mind is a more serious issue than the updates to a firewall which are usually few and far between.
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For the most part newbies have as much of a problem with allowing (serious potential for harm) or blocking everything that their firewall pops-up because they haven't a clue (newbie) what the information presented means.
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Of course, and the main problem is their ignorance and/or being too lazy to learn or at least to do some researching about those pop-up message contents and files that access was requested for. That way, they would be much more safe, rather than not knowing anything and just click OK when they get those pop-ups...
This in my mind is a more serious issue than the updates to a firewall which are usually few and far between.
Exactly, and I'm just saying that because I know that people (mostly newbies, and there is many out there) are affraid and not feeling comfortable when they hear their beloved firewall is being discontinued, abandoned, whatever... that doesn't give them feeling of security enough strong to keep them using that product. If developers gave up on it, why wouldn't I ? Unfortunatelly that's the case with many... :-\
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Oh i'm still using Kerio i'm not rushing to switch it, i'll still use it, well that is until i find a firewall that i like better and then i'll change it no need to hurry ;)
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Not rushing into switching ? Haha... you're funny Slovenia ;D ;D ;D Then what ZoneAlarm is doing on your system ? Protecting you maybe ? ;D ;D ;D (kidding of course)
I see from the screenshot you sent me that it's working fine and your Azureus work great as well... ;)
Yes, still those privacy incompatiblity issues with Pro version and WebShield, but you don't need those extra features in ZA Pro version, since you are using some external tools for the same purpose. So, I guess you will be quite happy with ZA Free version...
Cheers !
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Just somehow solved problem with Zone Alarm here. NetVeda is not liked by my PC, as it started just to freeze almost on every boot after password entered. :-\ My PC is very stuborn stupid box, which works only with Kerio, now seems it doesn't mind working with ZA. But now I have new hardware, which is found only when ZA is in my system. Also had a lot of errors but I've just disabled that new "hardware" and everything seems to work fine. Maybe someone knows what it can be? Motherbord cd does not contains needed driver for this "device", which is gone with other firewalls installed here. :-\ PS. MB is Asrock K7S41GX
And seems it's problem not only I have. ;D
http://forums.whatpc.co.uk/thread.jsp?forum=7&thread=63805&message=419938
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Not rushing into switching ? Haha... you're funny Slovenia ;D ;D ;D Then what ZoneAlarm is doing on your system ? Protecting you maybe ? ;D ;D ;D (kidding of course)
I see from the screenshot you sent me that it's working fine and your Azureus work great as well... ;)
Yes, still those privacy incompatiblity issues with Pro version and WebShield, but you don't need those extra features in ZA Pro version, since you are using some external tools for the same purpose. So, I guess you will be quite happy with ZA Free version...
Cheers !
Yeah well i know i said i was gonna stick with Kerio but i couldn't help myself i just had to try out ZA ;D Ofcourse i made a backup before to be on the safe side.I must say ZA finally works OK for me and i'm very glad i installed it :)
Cheers
Mikey
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I installed Safety Net and it's running just fine.. ;)
it passed both pcflank stealth test and grc's shields up.. ;D ;D
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also both Sygate & dslreports port scan ;)
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firefox and outpost pro.
Ditto.
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ZoneAlarm, D-Link DI-604 and IE ;D I even made my port 113 stealth through my router/firewall...
(http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9594/untitled29xt.jpg)
(http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/1403/untitled13im.jpg)
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I even made my port 113 stealth through my router/firewall...
Me too(i mean 139 right?) ;D
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No, exactly 113... port 113
See here:
(http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/2375/untitled18yw.jpg)
Read about it here:
http://grc.com/port_113.htm (http://grc.com/port_113.htm)
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Well I must have done something right...I passed too...... ;D
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No, exactly 113... port 113
See here:
(http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/2375/untitled18yw.jpg)
Read about it here:
http://grc.com/port_113.htm (http://grc.com/port_113.htm)
Oh the ident port yes ;) Yep i have that one stealthed too hihi ;D
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Poor Kerio, I had alot of fun memories with that personal firewall. We're sure gonna miss that little guy. I wonder if we could post our loving memories about the times we had sharing with Kerio. :)
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(http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/5781/hprip6de.jpg)
I personally never met him in my life, but those that knew him well... they said, he was wonderful "policeman"... too bad had to leave... :-\
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I installed Safety Net and it's running just fine.. ;)
it passed both pcflank stealth test and grc's shields up.. ;D ;D
Does safety net pass these tests below: test 2 is a very good one to do. T
http://www.firewallleaktester.com/
zone alarm fails test 2
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it did not pass it ::)
NetVeda 3.61 released (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=76006&highlight=leaktest)
Leaktests: Should they be considered in selecting a Firewall? (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=95218&highlight=leaktest)
Firewall tests, reports, comparisons?? (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=95847&highlight=leaktest)
This setup will pass all leaktests (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=74193&highlight=leaktest)
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This is a real shame to hear, I've never used KPF but I've always herd good things about it, and Sygate, I absolutely loved it :'(