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Title: PushMail used for the first time today
Post by: Pavel Baudis on October 31, 2003, 04:08:00 PM
Hi All,

the PushMail update feature has been used for the first time several minutes ago :)

If you are avast! Pro user and you have registered to this service, your database should be updated in the moment when the email arrives and is checked by any avast! mail provider (with the exception of BAT! plugin, which does not offer this feature).

Please let us know how do you like it :) :)

Pavel
Title: Re:PushMail used for the first time today
Post by: pekka on October 31, 2003, 04:29:42 PM
Wow!

Worth waiting!!!

---
avast! push-actualization done successfully.

[17:06:55, 10/31/03]
VPS: 0310-4, 31.10.2003

You are currently using the latest version of avast!

[17:21:29, 10/31/03]
VPS: 0310-4, 31.10.2003
Title: Re:PushMail used for the first time today
Post by: sedina on October 31, 2003, 04:49:41 PM
Hi,
sorry for "push-actualization" term. It's terrible! ;-) In next program update it will be corrected (i.e. official name PUSH update)

pavels
Title: Re:PushMail used for the first time today
Post by: pekka on October 31, 2003, 04:50:04 PM
... And ipush done twice here, because my Mercury32 does the first Avast scan and my email client the second...


Title: Re:PushMail used for the first time today
Post by: Pavel Baudis on October 31, 2003, 04:53:33 PM
... And ipush done twice here, because my Mercury32 does the first Avast scan and my email client the second...
Yes, it could happen in such situations but the overload of this is nill - avast! Mail provider checks if there is a new version or not and if not, it just adds the info into the message (if requested) and otherwise does nothing ;-)

Pavel
Title: Re:PushMail used for the first time today
Post by: pekka on October 31, 2003, 05:05:47 PM
Yes, I ment just that if someone wonders why there are two update messages in my post, don't think that many users have my sort of combination.


Title: Re:PushMail used for the first time today
Post by: Pavel Baudis on October 31, 2003, 05:12:59 PM
Yes, I ment just that if someone wonders why there are two update messages in my post, don't think that many users have my sort of combination.

Yes - it means that all your mail is scanned twice by avast! :)
Title: Re:PushMail used for the first time today
Post by: pekka on October 31, 2003, 05:29:22 PM
Pavel,

Actually not all my mail.

Only one account, which I made specially for PUSH update.

Every other account is only scanned once with Avast, when delivered to local email client.

Once is enough!
;-)
Title: Re:PushMail used for the first time today
Post by: Walker on October 31, 2003, 09:43:31 PM
Please let us know how do you like it :) :)

Pavel


Pavel,

No doubt everyone else knows the answer to this... I'll be the one to ask anyway  :-[  How do I use/set-up this feature?.

Walker.
Title: Re:PushMail used for the first time today
Post by: Pavel Baudis on October 31, 2003, 10:01:37 PM
No doubt everyone else knows the answer to this... I'll be the one to ask anyway  :-[  How do I use/set-up this feature?.

:) Don't worry - it is quite simple!
First, you need avast! Pro installed. Go to the Menu/Settings/Update (Basic). Choose Details button and check Push iAVS enabled there. You can also choose if the Mail provider should add the information about action performed. Then click on the Registration button - it will take you to our Web page where you can subscribe to the list with your mail address. Then you can wait till next iAVS update :) :)!

BTW: to unsubscibe you can use the same web page!

Pavel
Title: Re:PushMail used for the first time today
Post by: Walker on October 31, 2003, 10:58:32 PM
:) Don't worry - it is quite simple!

Thanks Pavel, it all worked fine.  ;D

Can I ask, is the 'Push? feature the only thing that the mailing list is used for?.

Walker.
Title: Re:PushMail used for the first time today
Post by: Pavel Baudis on October 31, 2003, 11:44:28 PM
Can I ask, is the 'Push? feature the only thing that the mailing list is used for?.
Yes - it used for iAVS announcements and for virus epidemics warning only...

Pavel
Title: Re:PushMail used for the first time today
Post by: Lisandro on November 01, 2003, 03:18:40 AM
Please let us know how do you like it :) :)
Pavel

Pavel, if the user configure to automatic updates and let some time to open his e-mail client, will avast! be updated "before" the push update mail?

I think yes because I have avast! updated and just after I receive the email...  ::)
Title: Re:PushMail used for the first time today
Post by: Pavel Baudis on November 01, 2003, 09:19:58 AM
Pavel, if the user configure to automatic updates and let some time to open his e-mail client, will avast! be updated "before" the push update mail?
It depends on many factors but probably yes - when connecting to the Internet, the check for update is done anyway and there is no big need for our Push technology (the only thing might be that the message is held till the update is finished in order to add the result into it, so all following messages are guaranted to be tested with the latest update).

The big advantage of Push comes when you are connected and the standard check is done in every four hours. The mail should come within very short time (less than 10 minutes), so your machine will be usually updated much faster in this case. But of course - this is just a supplement of much more reliable automatic Pop method built in avast! - you simply can't rely on the mail method only...

Pavel
Title: Re:PushMail used for the first time today
Post by: Walker on November 01, 2003, 12:32:21 PM
The big advantage of Push comes when you are connected and the standard check is done in every four hours. The mail should come within very short time (less than 10 minutes), so your machine will be usually updated much faster in this case. But of course - this is just a supplement of much more reliable automatic Pop method built in avast! - you simply can't rely on the mail method only...
Pavel

Pavel,

Just a query  :) ... this message and my previous asking about what the mail list is used for, kinda fits together.

I've noticed recently that 'notifications' of forum messages are not very reliable  :-\ . Sometimes I don't seem to get any at all, sometimes they are hours (possibly 'days') late !. So I wonder if there is any connection between the Push notification message and the mail server that the forum uses to send forum message notifications ?. If so the Push message might turn up later than expected as well  ???.

I'm probably totally off the wall and the servers are independent, just thught I'd mention it  :)

Walker
Title: Re:PushMail used for the first time today
Post by: Pavel Baudis on November 01, 2003, 01:25:02 PM
Just a query  :) ... this message and my previous asking about what the mail list is used for, kinda fits together.

I've noticed recently that 'notifications' of forum messages are not very reliable  :-\ . Sometimes I don't seem to get any at all, sometimes they are hours (possibly 'days') late !. So I wonder if there is any connection between the Push notification message and the mail server that the forum uses to send forum message notifications ?. If so the Push message might turn up later than expected as well  ???.

I'm probably totally off the wall and the servers are independent, just thught I'd mention it  :)

Well, I don't have any bad experience with any message from this forum (and I am really receiving plenty of them). Also, the Push iAVS mails are sent out during several minutes - and the server is different one from the forum mails. But - what happens with the message next is out of our control - there could be broken servers, big delays, full mailboxes etc. And even if everything works well, maybe you will not check the mail box for some time so the Push Mail can reach your computer very long time after it has been sent from us.

But (as I said before) it is really very nice and elegant supplement of basic avast! method - you know that you are up to date not later then 4 hours after the update release anyway!

Title: Re:PushMail used for the first time today
Post by: Walker on November 01, 2003, 02:02:11 PM
But (as I said before) it is really very nice and elegant supplement of basic avast! method - you know that you are up to date not later then 4 hours after the update release anyway!

Yep, understand and agree with you Pavel.

I't wasn't a critique, just for info., in case there was a issue there  :)
Title: Re:PushMail used for the first time today
Post by: Lisandro on November 01, 2003, 02:25:33 PM
I've noticed recently that 'notifications' of forum messages are not very reliable  :-\ . Sometimes I don't seem to get any at all, sometimes they are hours (possibly 'days') late !. Walker

Pavel, what is the delay between the user post and the forum server sending the e-mail? I see - like Walker - such a big delay...  ;)
Title: Re:PushMail used for the first time today
Post by: Pavel Baudis on November 01, 2003, 02:31:41 PM
Pavel, what is the delay between the user post and the forum server sending the e-mail? I see - like Walker - such a big delay...  ;)

Have no idea  ???. You should try it by yourself?

Pavel
Title: Re:PushMail used for the first time today
Post by: Lisandro on November 01, 2003, 06:44:16 PM
Pavel, what is the delay between the user post and the forum server sending the e-mail? I see - like Walker - such a big delay...  ;)

Have no idea  ???. You should try it by yourself?

Pavel

It's becoming difficult  ;D
My questions turns back into another questions...  ;D
Never mind, I just want to post a similar behavior previous described by Walker: I've noticed recently that 'notifications' of forum messages are not very reliable. Sometimes I don't seem to get any at all, sometimes they are hours (possibly 'days') late!...  :-\
Title: Re:PushMail used for the first time today
Post by: kubecj on November 02, 2003, 12:04:25 AM
Hi,

you can direct all the problems with servers/mail to me.

I've checked my forum messages, they take about 3 seconds to reach me  ;D and the servers (this server) and our mailserver are 6 timezones away.

So, if you still have the mails, cut'n'paste the whole headers (all that Received, X-something and such weird stuff) and send them to me. I'll check them.
Title: Re:PushMail used for the first time today
Post by: Walker on November 02, 2003, 12:20:59 AM
you can direct all the problems with servers/mail to me.

Hi kubej,

I'm beginning to wish I hadn't mentioned this  :-X  :)

It's difficult to put a finger on what's happening, it started of as a mere observation  :-\ .

I'll monitor a bit more closely what is happening and let you know if it occurs again.

In the meantime, I'll mark this message 'notify' and send you the headers when the notifacation arrives.

Thanks for your interest.

Walker.
Title: Re:PushMail used for the first time today
Post by: Lisandro on November 02, 2003, 01:32:57 AM
you can direct all the problems with servers/mail to me.
I'll monitor a bit more closely what is happening and let you know if it occurs again.
In the meantime, I'll mark this message 'notify' and send you the headers when the notifacation arrives.
Thanks for your interest.
Walker.

I'll do the same of Walker. Thanks kubecj... See you round  ;)
Title: Re:PushMail used for the first time today
Post by: Walker on November 02, 2003, 02:05:59 AM
Kubej ,

Well that is just $*¿$ law  :(

Technicals last message was posted at 01:32:57 and my notification from 'Kitty' was timed spot on the money 00:32:57.

You've rigged it  ;D ;D ;)

Walker
Title: Re:PushMail used for the first time today
Post by: kubecj on November 02, 2003, 12:05:01 PM
That's okay. Times on this forum are in CET (GMT+1), qmail sends with GMT timestamps. And if your clock maybe be a bit off, the mail could arrive in the very moment.

There's non-zero probability that the lags are caused by high traffic while releasing iAVS/program updates. We'll check that.
Title: Re:PushMail used for the first time today
Post by: Walker on November 02, 2003, 01:22:55 PM
That's okay. Times on this forum are in CET (GMT+1), qmail sends with GMT timestamps. And if your clock maybe be a bit off, the mail could arrive in the very moment.

Hi Kubej,

Yep that was 'Kitty' time stamp and yes know the timezone difference. What I was saying is that that message notification hit your server as soon as it was posted on the forum... can't complain about that  :)
Title: Re:PushMail used for the first time today
Post by: Lisandro on November 02, 2003, 01:36:01 PM
you can direct all the problems with servers/mail to me.
I'll monitor a bit more closely what is happening and let you know if it occurs again.
In the meantime, I'll mark this message 'notify' and send you the headers when the notifacation arrives.
Thanks for your interest.
Walker.

I'll do the same of Walker. Thanks kubecj... See you round  ;)

Everything seems to work now with foruns notifications...
Every post I 'follow' I receive an imediate notification. Thanks Pavel  ;)
Title: Re:PushMail used for the first time today
Post by: Walker on November 02, 2003, 04:51:00 PM
Pavel,

Just this minute worked for me.... very impressive  :)

Thank you.

Walker.
Title: Re:PushMail used for the first time today
Post by: Walker on November 04, 2003, 07:26:16 PM
Pavel,

Seems that since the 'pushmail' has been implimented, I often get the red task tray menu appear saying that an update has been unsuccesful (server down). If I then check by trying a manual update, both program and database are reported as being up to date.

Is this related to the push feature or something else?.

Thanks,
Walker.
Title: Re:PushMail used for the first time today
Post by: Vlk on November 04, 2003, 10:40:39 PM
Hardly related to the push updates.
Please send me the <avast>\setup\setup.log file.

Thanks
Vlk
Title: Re:PushMail used for the first time today
Post by: Walker on November 04, 2003, 10:41:39 PM
Ok Vlk,

Will do.


[edit]   sent Vlk. Thanks [/e]