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Title: Opera is now free!
Post by: darkparrot on September 20, 2005, 02:43:24 PM
"Opera has removed the banners, found within our browser, and the licensing fee. Opera’s growth, due to tremendous worldwide customer support, has made today’s milestone an achievable goal."

http://opera.com/free/
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: MWassef on September 20, 2005, 02:50:59 PM
a very good move  :D
than for the info  ;D
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: crofty59 on September 20, 2005, 03:09:23 PM
"Opera has removed the banners, found within our browser, and the licensing fee. Opera’s growth, due to tremendous worldwide customer support, has made today’s milestone an achievable goal."

http://opera.com/free/

Thanks darkparrot

I have now updated to Version 8.5

Cheers
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: darth.mikey on September 20, 2005, 03:12:53 PM
That's really good news guys!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: DavidR on September 20, 2005, 03:27:09 PM
Yes another option to avoid IE without the pesky ads or having to pay.

Although The point quoted by Crofty from the Opera web site "Opera’s growth, due to tremendous worldwide customer support, has made today’s milestone an achievable goal." This doesn't explain how the free version without the financial support of the ads can be sustained.

Unless that tremendous worldwide support is all those who paid for it (suckers) is now supporting the free rollers ;D
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: bob3160 on September 20, 2005, 03:28:41 PM
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=9671.msg140239#msg140239  ;D
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: Sputnik.RU on September 20, 2005, 04:34:44 PM
I'm using Opera since they give away registation keys on their birthday party. Actually I like it a lot, and I believe (basing on the security reports) it's even safer then Firefox. I also enabled the blocking of "referrers" in Opera and it didn't give me any problems visiting websites yet.
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: Starfighter on September 20, 2005, 04:39:45 PM
I rather suspect that Firefox was doing so well that Opera had no real choice other than to offer their's for free too....
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: DavidR on September 20, 2005, 04:43:45 PM
I don't see blocking referrers (what site you were at last) as being that useful, but blocking your IP address would be more useful security tool, this however is more likely to have an effect on your browsing. Unless you are visiting sites you would rather not disclose to the next site you visit (if they even monitor it), referrers is very small beer and no way I would switch browsers just for this.
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: DavidR on September 20, 2005, 04:47:21 PM
I rather suspect that Firefox was doing so well that Opera had no real choice other than to offer their's for free too....

This to me is much closer than the blurb they put on their web site "Opera’s growth, due to tremendous worldwide customer support, has made today’s milestone an achievable goal." Opera is barely on the radar screen in terms of browser stats, so they do need some 'growth'.
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: darkparrot on September 20, 2005, 04:53:01 PM
Well since Opera has/had identified itself as IE the statistics are much lower then actual users.

Either way opera is now the default browser on my machine.
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: Fast on September 20, 2005, 04:54:01 PM
Yes David, you're absolutely right. But I'm happy about this good news. I really like Opera and use it from version 6 until now. Never paid for it, also use the mail-client for an extra, not that important account.
I hope more people will give it a try now.

Bye,
Fast
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: bob3160 on September 20, 2005, 05:07:20 PM
The same sort of reason finally forced AOL to make Netscape free since IE was taking over and it had always been free.  :)
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: DavidR on September 20, 2005, 08:18:40 PM
Well since Opera has/had identified itself as IE the statistics are much lower then actual users.

Either way opera is now the default browser on my machine.
The same could be said of firefox as it too can report itself as IE or opera for that matter I believe?

But any way it has to be more secure than IE.
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: Ricky on September 20, 2005, 09:06:05 PM
cool, is it similar to ie?? but safe like firefox??
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: bob3160 on September 20, 2005, 09:46:02 PM
Ricky

http://www.opera.com/products/desktop/

Google is your friend!!!
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: Ricky on September 20, 2005, 09:47:55 PM
lol.. cheers bob
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: JediMasterCK on September 20, 2005, 10:37:37 PM
Opera is the best browser going - period...
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: polonus on September 20, 2005, 10:41:17 PM
Hi ye all,

This is good news. I have used Opera in the past. I may reconsider it. Now I use FF and tweaked it quite a bit security wise, and with various plug-ins. The best news here is the Dr. Web browser pre-scan plug-in is there for OPERA too.
Opera is the favourite browser of the big search specialist F.RAVIA. Go to http://www.searchlores.org , and read all what he has on Opera. It is a lot of good information. If you are not only interested in Anti Malware but in searching expertise as well, you cannot miss his site.

greets,

polonus
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: kakapo on September 20, 2005, 11:18:39 PM
Yes Ricky, it takes a little getting used to as it's not quite as IE-like as Firefox but once you're familiar, you'll probably never use IE again. Opera's fast and has some good features/tools and now our friend polonus has explained that I can use Dr Web there too I can see Firefox will get even less use. Of course, like all things, it's a matter of personal preference.

I've been using Opera since IE caused me real grief - nasty spyware - so much grief, the shop gave up on my PC and it was the experts here who helped me get it going again. I then switched from Norton to avast! (best move I ever made) from Zone Alarm to Kerio, and use IE only for MS updates. Since I started using Opera I have had NO spyware. NONE! I run all the scanners weekly, but there's nothing to find. Mind you, I'm a safe surfer and just don't go to "those places".

Thank you all for the links and info! Cool that there's always something new to learn!

Happy days to all

Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: DavidR on September 21, 2005, 12:28:07 AM
Opera is the best browser going - period...

Whilst browser selection is very subjective, what might be best for you doesn't mean that it is best for everyone. I never got on with its cranky interface (IMHO) but that was some time ago and things change, but I would have to have a good reason to try it again like disatisfaction with my primary or secondary browsers.

I also much prefer my email and browser to be seperate not part of a package, that way I choose what browser suits me best and what email program suits me best. That is one of the reasons I didn't use Navigator or Mozilla Suite.

So no, I don't think Opera is the best, period... ;D
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: JediMasterCK on September 21, 2005, 02:39:57 AM
I never got on with its cranky interface (IMHO) but that was some time ago and things change

Name one single "cranky" item below...

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I also much prefer my email and browser to be seperate

You do not have to use Opera's email... ::)

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So no, I don't think Opera is the best, period... ;D

Wallow in your ignorance as Firefox becomes more hacked and bug ridden... ;D
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: bob3160 on September 21, 2005, 02:50:48 AM
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Wallow in your ignorance as Firefox becomes becomes more hacked and bug ridden...
I can assure you that that statement will not convince any one to use or switch to Opera.
It might cost you a few friends however. ;D
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: StopMe on September 21, 2005, 02:59:02 AM


Wallow in your ignorance as Firefox becomes becomes more hacked and bug ridden... ;D

Hey man, that's not always true, you think the security patches that we get from firefox updates are useless?
You should also tell that to the  guys who are making the firefox 1.5 beta.   ;)
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: Jarmo P on September 21, 2005, 08:52:32 AM
Opera has its uses for me, seldom, mostly I use Firefox.
This just came to mind.

A firefox popup javascript window with a link only in plain text. Copy the link and paste to Opera. keeps the windows separated and not Firefox having many windows to select in the bottom bar.

But agreed, otherwise they are too different beasts, have to use one or the other only regularly.
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: Inu-Ya on September 24, 2005, 08:58:45 PM
I use Opera 8.5! Seems to be holding up and fast in swithing to websites. Yet, I still have FireFox for back up. ::)

Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: xistenz on September 25, 2005, 10:22:12 AM
Funny how when a new free program comes along, people dump the one they were using and jump over to the new one and completely ignore the old one.

I think I'll stick with firefox.
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: crofty59 on September 25, 2005, 12:13:25 PM
Funny how when a new free program comes along, people dump the one they were using and jump over to the new one and completely ignore the old one.

I think I'll stick with firefox.

You are right xistenz I agree with you  100%.

I will stick with Firefox as this has been the best browser i have used.

I have had Opera installed for about 8 months but rarely use it, just like to use it for a change every so often.

Cheers crofty59
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: DukeNukem on September 25, 2005, 12:22:31 PM
I just installed Opera, first time using it.

Seems quite good  :)

I'll use it for a week and see if it is worth keeping, maybe replacing FF.
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: bob3160 on September 25, 2005, 02:13:02 PM
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You are right xistenz I agree with you  100%.
I'll just continue using GreenBrowser (http://bob3160.no-ip.org:4445/GreenBrowserSetup.exe) like I have for the past 2 years. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: Lisandro on September 26, 2005, 02:52:09 AM
Bob, did you ever used Maxthon? Can you compare it to GreenBrowser? Thanks.
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: szc on September 26, 2005, 08:43:09 PM
I used to use GreenBrowser and it seems it's a pretty good browser loaded with bunch of features, except I had some sudden random GreenBrowser crashes without any visible reason. Same thing happened with Avant Browser. I also tried Enigma Browser and Slim Browser in the past, but nothing ever worked as good as MyIE2 worked on my machine. Of course MyIE2 is known as Maxthon Browser now.

Never ever had any problems with Maxthon in the past and it seems like a really stable browser.

I'm sure GreenBrowser works perfect for Bob since I've noticed he is using it pretty long time by now, but I just wanted to add my two cents worth comment. Maybe you Tech will experience similar problems like I experienced, and maybe not... I guess you have to try it to be sure. But one think I know for sure, and that thing is... Maxthon never ever crashed on my PC, loading pages really fast, and it's nice (very light btw) interface helps it stays very attractive for the eye.

Cheers !
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: Lisandro on September 26, 2005, 11:37:43 PM
Except I had some sudden random GreenBrowser crashes without any visible reason.
Same experience of mine. But could be a coincidence.
Another reason to not use it is the language (GreenBrowser does not have a Portuguese interface, or better, did not have... I don't know now).

Never ever had any problems with Maxthon in the past and it seems like a really stable browser.
For me the same.
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: bob3160 on September 27, 2005, 03:50:17 AM
Hi Technical
Here are all the languages currently available:
All Language Version (http://www.morequick.com/GreenBrowserSetup.zip)
(Chinese(Simp), Chinese(Trad), Dutch, English, French, German, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Polska, Russian, Slovak, Spanish, Thai, Ukrainian), Arabic,Hungarian=>
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: Lisandro on September 27, 2005, 01:59:07 PM
Hi Technical Here are all the languages currently available: All Language Version (http://www.morequick.com/GreenBrowserSetup.zip) (Chinese(Simp), Chinese(Trad), Dutch, English, French, German, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Polska, Russian, Slovak, Spanish, Thai, Ukrainian), Arabic,Hungarian=>
As you can see, my poor Portuguese is not there...  :'(
Anyway, thanks Bob for the info.
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: darkparrot on September 27, 2005, 11:15:55 PM
Tech I dont know if you would be interested, but they have an english version that is made to be translated. If you want, you can make a translation and send it in for all your Portuguese speaking brothers and sisters.
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: Lisandro on September 27, 2005, 11:54:23 PM
Tech I dont know if you would be interested, but they have an english version that is made to be translated. If you want, you can make a translation and send it in for all your Portuguese speaking brothers and sisters.
DarkParrot, I'll be glad that one of my brothers and sisters start the job...  ;D
avast! took me a lot of time to translate, I'm very proud of doing it, posted in some download servers that I've done it.
Not a thank you... oh, just one after two years.
Right now, I'm waiting to translate avast homepage and can't start a new project.
In fact, I have a new project  ;D
I'm making avast! Tweaker... Sasha is the only one who saw the application to make our avast! fly  :)
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: szc on September 28, 2005, 01:30:05 AM
Also, Sasha is the only one who made those nice animated icons for your ABOUT THE TWEAKER section, and logo which suppose to go on the main window  ;D ...

I don't know, but I guess since you revealed your little secret, I guess we can show them how your tweaker logo will look like...  ;D

Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: DavidR on September 28, 2005, 01:34:54 AM
Hubble Bubble Toil and Trouble, what has Tech got brewing ;D
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: Inu-Ya on September 30, 2005, 03:43:52 AM
Yes! Now we all don't have to pay to have a good browser. How cool is that huh?!

Opera keep it up!  ;)
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: JediMasterCK on September 30, 2005, 03:49:07 AM
Yes! Now we all don't have to pay to have a good browser.

???
Nobody ever had to pay for Opera...

And nobody ever had to have annoying graphical ads...

All anybody had to do was select the TEXT ads which are hardly annoying or any different from any website...
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: darkparrot on September 30, 2005, 04:10:03 AM
I think its the fact that the ads were forced. Text or not.
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: JediMasterCK on September 30, 2005, 01:32:54 PM
Quote from: darkparrot link=topic=16529
I think its the fact that the ads were forced. Text or not.

A Pop-Up ad is forced - not what Opera had...
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: Lisandro on September 30, 2005, 02:01:51 PM
A Pop-Up ad is forced - not what Opera had...
I don't follow this. I'm with Darkparrot's opinion. A banner is an ad and an ad is always forced.
Opera is better now. They were losing market and have to change it.
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: bob3160 on September 30, 2005, 03:20:04 PM
Does all of this really matter? Talking about what used to be, has no bearing on the current or future status of Opera.
It is now free of ads and FREE for all who want it to use. ;D
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: szc on September 30, 2005, 08:06:55 PM
And very important fact is that Opera was and still is one of the best browsers out there (if not the best at the moment)...
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: JediMasterCK on September 30, 2005, 08:15:24 PM
And very important fact is that Opera was and still is one of the best browsers out there (if not the best at the moment)...

True... Opera is not like other browsers that allow a ton of adware/spyware onto your computer...
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: JediMasterCK on September 30, 2005, 08:19:20 PM
A banner is an ad and an ad is always forced.

Irrelevant to the browsing experience - did not interfere whatsoever...

Opera is better now.

If you think like that then you must avoid all software and websites with ads on them... ::)

Does all of this really matter?

Nope - it's all in the past... ;)
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: Lisandro on September 30, 2005, 09:32:52 PM
A banner is an ad and an ad is always forced.
Irrelevant to the browsing experience - did not interfere whatsoever...
No, surely not. Takes attention, take space in my screen, don't let me get to the point, save temporary files in cache in my disk, etc. etc.

Opera is better now.
If you think like that then you must avoid all software and websites with ads on them... ::)
If I can choose, I'll browse the page without adds. More than this, a lot of firewalls are just sweeping the adds away just with the [AD] trick.
A lot of users don't want adds at all. The number of Opera downloads increased by millions in the same day they remove adds. Coincidence?

Does all of this really matter?
Nope - it's all in the past... ;)
After all, we can share our opinions and have fun here  8)

Thanks Jedi.
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: darkparrot on September 30, 2005, 10:17:52 PM
I get no ads on webpages, so using a browser with ads made no sense to me.

Since Opera went ad free I switched over from firefox, for the better I think.
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: Inu-Ya on October 01, 2005, 05:01:58 PM
My question here is why did Opera have ad's within there browser at all? I thought it was stupid having to pay for none ad's but I found it was easy to crack in it and be ad free anyway. I never did such thing but my friends did.

Opera is still good to me as I switched to Opera from FireFox and I'm loving the skins.  ::)
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: Inu-Ya on October 03, 2005, 03:19:14 AM
Hello there, Here's what my Desktop and Opera look like  ::)

(http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/3606/mydesktop7oe.th.jpg) (http://img320.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mydesktop7oe.jpg)
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: darkparrot on October 03, 2005, 06:45:24 PM
My question here is why did Opera have ad's within there browser at all? I thought it was stupid having to pay for none ad's but I found it was easy to crack in it and be ad free anyway. I never did such thing but my friends did.

Opera is still good to me as I switched to Opera from FireFox and I'm loving the skins.  ::)

I think that was the only way they had a stable form of income. I know they had a lot people working on the browser, since its not open source (and do not have a parent company funding them) they are not getting the man power for free.
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: YLAP on October 03, 2005, 08:08:17 PM
Hi all,

changed my FF with Opera and I'm still happy on using it. I found it more user friendly than FF.  ;D greetings for all firefoxers and opera singers. shortly for all who do not use IE everyday!  ;D
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: bob3160 on October 03, 2005, 11:14:24 PM
Hi all,

changed my FF with Opera and I'm still happy on using it. I found it more user friendly than FF.  ;D greetings for all firefoxers and opera singers. shortly for all who do not use IE everyday!  ;D
YLAP
I have to agree with you. Of all the non IE based browsers, it's the easiest to work with. It also opens much faster than FF.
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: Inu-Ya on October 04, 2005, 01:04:48 AM
Yup, I find it alot faster then FireFox.  ::)

Love the skins for it! :)
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: rdmaloyjr on November 25, 2005, 02:28:41 PM
I've been using the new Opera 8.5 once in a while.  Opera isn't as user friendly as Firefox, tha's why Firefox is my default browser. 

I had been able to log into MSN with Opera, but now I can't login to MSN with Opera.  I just updated to Opera 8.51 & still can't login to MSN.  Does anyone know why Opera won't login to MSN now?  I havent changed my cookie settings.

I'm using Opera now with no problem logging into avast.
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: polonus on November 25, 2005, 02:39:25 PM
Hello Opera and FF users,

Well Opera is the better browser, and a good browser for searchers (look at www.fravia.org) , but I predict the better browser next year will be the more "socializing" brother of FF 1.5 x: that is... FLOCK. As one of the brave first adopters and security developers for FLOCK I dare to say that Flock is the more stable and user-friendly of the alternate browsers outside IE.  Don't be faint-hearted and give FLOCK the beta-test.

greets,

polonus
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: rdmaloyjr on November 25, 2005, 02:48:43 PM
Hello Opera and FF users,

Well Opera is the better browser, and a good browser for searchers (look at www.fravia.org) , but I predict the better browser next year will be the more "socializing" brother of FF 1.5 x: that is... FLOCK. As one of the brave first adopters and security developers for FLOCK I dare to say that Flock is the more stable and user-friendly of the alternate browsers outside IE.  Don't be faint-hearted and give FLOCK the beta-test.

greets,

polonus

I did give Flock a try.  I found a lot of problems with Flock's bookmarks.  Flock has a good idea with their bookmarks, but it just doesn't work!  I've never had a problem with any other browser's bookmarks.  I removed Flock from my computer.
Title: Re: Opera is now free!
Post by: polonus on November 25, 2005, 03:47:59 PM
Hi rdmaloyr,

You better wait for the official version. What we have now is a developer's pre-relaese. To solve your problem look here: http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/7C118E21-E8DD-4B64-9329-4F9F51859BBE/

polonus