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Title: Windows OneCare
Post by: cyfer on October 15, 2005, 06:01:44 AM
Hello, I have been using Avast, for probably two years now and I thoroughly trustful, and very fond of Avast! But what I wanted to ask was is it alright to have Avast and Windows OneCare running together? I haven't run into any problems so far... What should I do? Remove Avast, Windows OneCare, and/or just leave it.

Thanks,
cyfer
Title: Re: Windows OneCare
Post by: Eddy on October 15, 2005, 09:55:16 AM
Since Windows OneCare is a BETA version, I wouldn't rely on it.
Since OneCare is also a av, it can give conflicts with Avast.

Can you do me a little favor?
Can you send me a HijackThis log?
I want to see what entries OneCare is making, so I can add them to HiLoA
(HijackThis Log file analyzer)
hjtbeta@yahoo.com
Title: Re: Windows OneCare
Post by: DavidR on October 15, 2005, 03:46:24 PM
With windows OneCare you only have OneProblem, OneCare ;D

There is a potential for conflict with avast as it attempts to do a similar job to avast. There have been a number of conflicts reported in some eNewsletters but the major one seemed to be no add/remove uninstall program or difficulties removing it when you had enough.
Title: Re: Windows OneCare
Post by: Lisandro on October 15, 2005, 04:15:19 PM
With windows OneCare you only have OneProblem, OneCare ;D
;D

There is a potential for conflict with avast as it attempts to do a similar job to avast. There have been a number of conflicts reported in some eNewsletters but the major one seemed to be no add/remove uninstall program or difficulties removing it when you had enough.
M$ said they will join the corporate antivirus market because users are asking so. There is an agreement with Symantec and McAfee for that.
To home users they'll deliver OneCare, ALotOfTroubles tool.
The more antitrust demands, the more M$ eats market and don't allow other companies :(
Title: Re: Windows OneCare
Post by: cyfer on October 15, 2005, 05:29:28 PM
Since Windows OneCare is a BETA version, I wouldn't rely on it.
Since OneCare is also a av, it can give conflicts with Avast.

Can you do me a little favor?
Can you send me a HijackThis log?
I want to see what entries OneCare is making, so I can add them to HiLoA
(HijackThis Log file analyzer)
hjtbeta@yahoo.com

Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
Scan saved at 10:23:53 AM, on 10/15/2005
Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP2 (6.00.2900.2180)

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Windows OneCare Live\Antivirus\MSMPSVC.exe
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Windows OneCare Live\Antivirus\MpEng.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\aswUpdSv.exe
C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashServ.exe
C:\Program Files\CDBurnerXP Pro 3\Tools\NMSAccess.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Windows OneCare Live\winss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvraidservice.exe
C:\Program Files\Microsoft AntiSpyware\gcasServ.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\ALWILS~1\Avast4\ashDisp.exe
C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_04\bin\jusched.exe
C:\Program Files\Google\Google Desktop Search\GoogleDesktop.exe
C:\WINDOWS\SOUNDMAN.EXE
C:\Program Files\GigaByte\VGA Utility Manager\G-VGA.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\RUNDLL32.EXE
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Windows OneCare Live\winssnotify.exe
C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe
C:\Program Files\Microsoft AntiSpyware\gcasDtServ.exe
C:\Program Files\Google\Google Desktop Search\GoogleDesktopIndex.exe
C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashMaiSv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wbem\unsecapp.exe
C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashWebSv.exe
C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
C:\Program Files\Pixoria\Konfabulator\Konfabulator.exe
C:\Program Files\Google\Google Desktop Search\GoogleDesktopDisplay.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\Program Files\Google\Google Desktop Search\GoogleDesktopCrawl.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\Program Files\Pixoria\Konfabulator\Konfabulator.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wuauclt.exe
C:\Download\hijackthis\HijackThis.exe

O2 - BHO: AcroIEHlprObj Class - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {53707962-6F74-2D53-2644-206D7942484F} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYBOT~1\SDHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: Google Toolbar Helper - {AA58ED58-01DD-4d91-8333-CF10577473F7} - c:\program files\google\googletoolbar1.dll
O3 - Toolbar: &Google - {2318C2B1-4965-11d4-9B18-009027A5CD4F} - c:\program files\google\googletoolbar1.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NVRaidService] C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvraidservice.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NVMixerTray] "C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NvMixer\NVMixerTray.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NVRTCLK] C:\WINDOWS\system32\NVRTCLK\NVRTClk.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\system32\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [nwiz] nwiz.exe /install
Title: Re: Windows OneCare
Post by: cyfer on October 15, 2005, 05:49:08 PM
With windows OneCare you only have OneProblem, OneCare ;D

There is a potential for conflict with avast as it attempts to do a similar job to avast. There have been a number of conflicts reported in some eNewsletters but the major one seemed to be no add/remove uninstall program or difficulties removing it when you had enough.

So I should remove OneCare...
Title: Re: Windows OneCare
Post by: DavidR on October 15, 2005, 06:11:20 PM
That decision has to be yours based on your need for the functions it provides and any likelihood of conflict with other software you have doing the same job.

I haven't seen a need for it as I have things fairly buttoned with other software (that isn't beta either). I also haven't installed MS anti-spyware beta either, there is no way I will be an unpaid beta tester for MS with the potential for problems with beta software and a total lack of support of it by MS.

Also trusting beta software to securing your PC, on a spare PC no problem but not on your only PC.
Title: Re: Windows OneCare
Post by: Spiritsongs on October 15, 2005, 09:25:38 PM
 :) Coming from an Antispyware "orientation", I also
     uninstalled Microsoft Antispyware and continued
     with the good & Free "Ad-Aware", best downloaded
     from www.majorgeeks.com . In addition, it would be
     wise to install "Ewido", available from www.ewido.net
     as a "companion" to your antivirus & antispyware
     program(s); it "specializes" in detecting & removing
     trojans, worms, dialers, etc .
Title: Re: Windows OneCare
Post by: cyfer on October 15, 2005, 10:24:52 PM
:) Coming from an Antispyware "orientation", I also
 uninstalled Microsoft Antispyware and continued
 with the good & Free "Ad-Aware", best downloaded
 from www.majorgeeks.com . In addition, it would be
 wise to install "Ewido", available from www.ewido.net
 as a "companion" to your antivirus & antispyware
 program(s); it "specializes" in detecting & removing
 trojans, worms, dialers, etc .

"Ewido" seems interesting, I'll check it out. Thanks.
Title: Re: Windows OneCare
Post by: cyfer on October 17, 2005, 10:17:39 PM
So Eddy, what do you think about these processes that Windows OneCare is making?