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Title: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: Wulf on October 20, 2005, 11:38:06 AM
I wonder if it is only me as I am in New Zealand, but when I try to find Avast in the anti virus section in the awards, it is not there! The links from the Avast home page don't work for me (Opera 8.2) and when I got to the magazines site Avast is not listed in the USA or Europe section. Anyone else had yhis happen to them? 
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: Cloussau on October 20, 2005, 11:50:06 AM
It was there a couple of days ago because i and many others from here voted ,see http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=16912.msg143574#msg143574
 maybe someone there has seen too many votes coming in for the AV that doesnt pay for huge advertisements in their mag and made a "business decision"  :-\ wont make any difference to my day
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: Vlk on October 20, 2005, 12:06:42 PM
Hmm, thanks for the report, I'll try to find out what's going on asap.

Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: Wulf on October 20, 2005, 12:14:09 PM
Cloussau, tried the link you posted and that doesn't work either.
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: Vlk on October 20, 2005, 12:37:32 PM
I've just had a phone call with the organizers.
The problem was, they were getting too many votes for avast that their server could barely handle it ;D

Hopefully, they'll add us to the list of nominees soon...
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: Lisandro on October 20, 2005, 12:53:41 PM
Vlk, does this explanation convince you?
Really strange... I could never vote, in any time in any way... server is always down  :P
What kind of vote is this?
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: Eddy on October 20, 2005, 12:57:39 PM
I've voted a couple of days ago. No problem at all, using Opera 8.5. Everything was working on the website.
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: Wulf on October 20, 2005, 01:01:04 PM
Okay, I've just come back from the magazines website and NOWHERE in the USA or Europe catagories for Best Antivirus is Avast listed. It has been removed!
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: Cloussau on October 20, 2005, 01:46:25 PM
sounds suspect to me if we were nominated from day 1 until around 8 hrs ago and suddenly we dropped off the list of nominees???
gonna be hard to give respect to the end result when potential voters have tried and failed so often and who`s to say when Avast! gets back on that the accumulated votes are retained. ::)
do I sound cynical? 8)
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: Lisandro on October 20, 2005, 02:40:23 PM
I've voted a couple of days ago. No problem at all, using Opera 8.5. Everything was working on the website.
What do you get now?
For me, it's not a matter of browser...  :P
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: FastGame on October 20, 2005, 03:38:53 PM
You can get there with this link http://www.scawards.com/

But it doesn't matter, avast! is removed from the voting list :( http://www.scawards.com/vote3.asp?Area_ID=1&Cat_ID=3

maybe avast! will win as the AV with the most write in votes  ::)
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: szc on October 20, 2005, 04:57:57 PM
I managed to get FastGame's link just once... and I saw that page. However, there is no Alwil Software listed. I suppose those are just company names, and not specific product names. Alwil starts with "AL..."

Take a look at screenshot... there is no Alw... in the list.

(http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/9061/untitled22fb.jpg)

Every single time I tried that link after the first time, it was giving me "Service unavailable" message...  ???
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: DavidR on October 20, 2005, 05:53:18 PM
I guess if they have removed avast/Alwil from the voting list all votes cast are being ignored by SC Magazine. I guess it shows the quality and integrity of SC Magazine to remove a product from the listing when voting is in progress. So I guess if we ever did purchase it we should ignore them too.
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: XMAS on October 20, 2005, 06:14:23 PM
Why they removed only avast! from voting  >:(
I don't think that no one has less voting than avast! , and they only removed avast!, because the servers didn't handle the voting. This seems very suspicious to me !!!
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: Vlk on October 20, 2005, 06:18:41 PM
As I said, they removed avast because there were too many votes coming for it (that the server infrastructure couldn't handle it).
I was told that it was roughly 3 times more than all votes belonging to all remaining products ;D ;D ;D


So they were assuming we were using some kind of a robot to generate the votes. Anyway, we explained to them that this is not the case, and hopefully, they'll soon return avast to the list.


Thanks
Vlk
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: Jarmo P on October 20, 2005, 08:20:58 PM
Hey Vlk, you still look like a pirate, them moustaches.
Everv asked your wife what she likes, lolol.  :P
Glad to have you anyways here
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: YLAP on October 21, 2005, 05:38:07 PM
http://www.avast.com/eng/vote_for_avast_at_sc_awards_.html
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: FastGame on October 21, 2005, 06:16:52 PM
I edited worthless post, thought I was in National Inquire forum, sorry :D
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: DavidR on October 21, 2005, 06:21:25 PM
http://www.scawards.com/ says voting doesn't end untill the 28th, I just voted for the other products. avast! isn't on the list so......
Either your trying to wind people up or you forgot the smiley or your in the wrong forum ;D
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: FastGame on October 21, 2005, 06:25:10 PM
http://www.scawards.com/ says voting doesn't end untill the 28th, I just voted for the other products. avast! isn't on the list so......
Either your trying to wind people up or you forgot the smiley or your in the wrong forum ;D
??? could you explain ?
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: Lisandro on October 21, 2005, 06:34:36 PM
Again, the avast! forum links are broken...
Clicking here http://www.avast.com/eng/vote_for_avast_at_sc_awards_.html give me nothing...
I can go up to http://www.scawards.com/vote2.asp?Area_ID=1 but antivirus tab of products is always unavailable...
What kind of s*it is this poll after all?
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: DavidR on October 21, 2005, 06:47:42 PM
@ FastGame
Why would you do this "I just voted for the other products. " would you care to explain.

So as I said, were you trying to wind people up or did you forget the smiley, like the one at the end of my comment.
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: FastGame on October 21, 2005, 07:11:37 PM
@ FastGame
Why would you do this "I just voted for the other products. " would you care to explain.

So as I said, were you trying to wind people up or did you forget the smiley, like the one at the end of my comment.
I meant I voted for the other products like anti Trojan, anti spyware. avast! wasn't in the AV section so I couldn't vote for it.

http://www.avast.com/eng/vote_for_avast_at_sc_awards_.html

States voting is over, my point is if voting is over then how come you can still vote until the 28th ? on everything but avast!

BTW a Google search will reveal I'm a big supporter of avast!, across  the internet. Hopefully I'm in the right forum  ;D

Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: DavidR on October 21, 2005, 07:14:48 PM
Ahh, all becomes clear, I only voted for the AV section, I should check out the others.
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: XMAS on October 21, 2005, 08:37:17 PM
States voting is over, my point is if voting is over then how come you can still vote until the 28th ? on everything but avast!

Yes this seems very strange to me too  ???

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b38/xmas3/ScreenShot00322354.jpg)
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: Lisandro on October 21, 2005, 08:46:54 PM
Yes this seems very strange to me too  ???
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b38/xmas3/ScreenShot00322354.jpg)
Where did you get this? From avast! page or from their?
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: XMAS on October 21, 2005, 08:50:54 PM
Here's the link > http://avast.com/eng/vote_for_avast_at_sc_awards_.html
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: Vlk on October 21, 2005, 10:27:31 PM
I'd like to add something to this thread but I can't at this moment :-X
It's a funny story  but I won't be able to tell it before November ;D
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: XMAS on October 21, 2005, 10:51:18 PM
I'd like to add something to this thread but I can't at this moment :-X
It's a funny story  but I won't be able to tell it before November ;D
So, we'll be waiting for November  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: szc on October 21, 2005, 10:56:59 PM
Off-topic - sorry people... Ondrej, have you got my e-mail ?

Sorry people, just got the answer from Vlk...  ;D Thanks Ondrej !

Ondrej, I already answered to your e-mail... thanks again I really appreciate your time on answering me. You guys are great ! Sometimes too busy, but nothing's really changed... you are always here when needed !

Thanks again !
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: XMAS on November 09, 2005, 08:29:22 PM
I'd like to add something to this thread but I can't at this moment :-X
It's a funny story  but I won't be able to tell it before November ;D
It's November  ::)  ;D  ::)
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: Dwarden on December 01, 2005, 11:26:29 AM
It's December ... so Vlk what is that funny story You were going to tell us  ??? ;D
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: FastGame on December 01, 2005, 05:51:57 PM
(http://img251.echo.cx/img251/9229/bump3xk.gif)
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: szc on December 01, 2005, 06:17:41 PM
Oh God... their hearts are placed so low in their bodies...  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: XMAS on December 08, 2005, 05:52:27 PM
Wooowww seems like avast! is going to the finals of the awards ;D
http://www.scawards.com/us-finalists.htm
Congrats Alwil ;D
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: Lisandro on December 08, 2005, 06:05:30 PM
And so?
What can we (the users) do now?  ::)
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: XMAS on December 08, 2005, 06:11:49 PM
And so?
What can we (the users) do now?  ::)
Well, I don't know  ::)
Maybe we just have to wait to see the results ::)
I've just posted the info ;D
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: Dwarden on December 09, 2005, 05:24:51 PM
that's really suprising :)
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: bob3160 on December 10, 2005, 04:22:44 AM
How much did this cost???     ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: Dwarden on December 11, 2005, 03:03:08 AM
How much did this cost???     ;D ;D ;D

just time to add link to Avast! main page?  ??? ;D
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: XMAS on February 14, 2006, 06:08:21 PM
European Finalist are announced and avast! is in the list again  ;D
http://www.scawards.com/euro-finalists.asp  8)
Congratulations to Alwil again  8)
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: CharleyO on February 14, 2006, 08:11:38 PM
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Way to go, awil !!!    :)

Makes me even prouder to be an Avast! user.    :)


I am surprised not to see ewido anywhere on the list.    ???


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Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: DavidR on February 14, 2006, 08:43:45 PM
Hopefully this will introduce more people to the secret of avast! and bring it into the limelight.
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: XMAS on February 17, 2006, 03:44:21 PM
;D ;D ;D
US Winners 2006
http://www.scawards.com/winners/2006.asp

Congrats to Alwil  ;D  8)

BTW why is this not announced on the main site avast.com ?
Also the VB100 award is not announced too  ???
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: RejZoR on February 17, 2006, 04:47:46 PM
C'mon Alwil, you need some more self propaganda.
I mean, everyone give so much credit to every award, why not you too?
And as i can see you guys even scored 1st place in antivirus area! :o ;D
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: CharleyO on February 18, 2006, 01:23:40 AM
***************

WooHooo!!! Congratulations to all at Awil Software!    :D    8)  

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Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: Staind on February 24, 2006, 07:43:07 PM
Congratulations to Avast, I saw the news today (it actually popped up - cute). :)
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: FreewheelinFrank on February 24, 2006, 07:46:17 PM
Congratulations!

But keep whipping those virus analysts!
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: polonus on February 24, 2006, 08:35:01 PM
Hi Alwil Team members,

Well deserved. A loud proficiat.

polonus
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: YLAP on February 24, 2006, 09:09:53 PM
AWESOME! CONGRATULATIONS!
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: Lisandro on February 24, 2006, 09:52:26 PM
Congratulations

ALWIL Software is proud to announce that it has won the prestigious SC Readers Choice Awards for best Antivirus (avast!) for the USA section of the award event. (http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_wins_sc_award.html)

The European awards UK ceremony (for which avast! is also nominated) will take place at the Grosvenor House, London, UK on the 25th April 2006.
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: justin1278 on February 25, 2006, 12:51:37 AM
Hello avast! forum members,

I am very impressed and happy with Alwil Software. Keep up the good work, and keep whipping McAfee and Norton!

~Justin1278
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: TedNelly on February 25, 2006, 01:58:13 AM
Many Many Congratulations to the Alwit Avast Software Team

Good  to see hard work rewarded well done!


Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: crofty59 on February 25, 2006, 05:39:42 AM
Congratulations!

It was no suprise to me Avast is second to none in my Humble oppion.

Alwil Software is no 1

Cheers
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: AvastForever on February 25, 2006, 11:44:06 AM
Congratulations!


Keep up the good work.  ;). Norton and macfee is going down!. We going to rule the world!.  ;D
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: CharleyO on February 26, 2006, 03:38:21 AM
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Hmmm ... I guess we will never know Vlk's funny story from November.    ???    ;)


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Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: Vlk on February 26, 2006, 09:25:12 AM
OK, here's the funny story: sending out the iNews message (asking people to vote for us) resulted in such a big traffic that their server crashed. And as soon as they restarted it (about 8 hours later), it crashed again. And again. And again. So after two days, they simply had to remove avast (the whole page refering to avast was deleted).
 
Avast got about 200,000+ votes in those two days, whereas a typical figure for a competitor's product was something like 5,000 votes during the whole 3-week voting period. ;D And these 200,000+ votes were submitted at the moment the server was actually up (instead of just returning the "Service unavailable" message - which cuts down the voting time to some 8-12 hours netto?).
 
Next day, I called them, asking why they removed us. They explained to me what I just said, and pretty much confirmed that we have already WON (but pleeeaaase, keep the user mass from our server now ;D).


But that was just the finalist round (I mean, we won the nomination and moved to the finale). However, the results of the finale were not, in any way, influenced by the results of the first round (public voting) - so it was quite a BIG surprise for us that avast has actually won the prize. In fact, it was such a big surprise that we didn't attend the gala event (we assumed that our chances of winning are so miniscule that it's pointless to go there). Well, you see, sometimes it pays to be optimistic (but it was probably still better than to go but not win).


Of course, with the US prize in our pocket we're looking forward to the European round (April) - we'll definitely not miss that (although I won't be there as I'm in the US at that time...). :)


Cheers
Vlk


 
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: szc on February 26, 2006, 01:16:45 PM
So what they basicaly do is counting those votes... not by evaluating the true worthiness of all those product listed over there... hmmm, it's quite easy to manipulate those things.

I wonder how much we can relly on all those results, all those programs in a real life... aside form these numbers
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: essexboy on February 26, 2006, 01:29:13 PM
Vox Populis   8)
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: Lisandro on February 26, 2006, 02:02:56 PM
So what they basicaly do is counting those votes... not by evaluating the true worthiness of all those product listed over there... hmmm, it's quite easy to manipulate those things.

I wonder how much we can relly on all those results, all those programs in a real life... aside form these numbers
Fully agree... seems that the users are just being used here...  :P
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: bob3160 on February 26, 2006, 02:04:45 PM
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(we assumed that our chances of winning are so miniscule that it's pointless to go there). Well, you see, sometimes it pays to be optimistic (but it was probably still better than to go but not win).
Vlk,
This should be a good life lesson.  Never assume and you know why... ;D ;D
It is always better to see a glass as half full not not as half empty.

When will there ever be a vote on a products merits not just on simple number of votes it receives???
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: Vlk on February 26, 2006, 04:13:41 PM
As I said, the number of votes only determined the 4 finalists in each category (and they said they have some tampering detection techniques in place).

The number of votes has no effect on the overall winner, though...
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: CharleyO on February 26, 2006, 08:39:44 PM
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So, the public voting just determines the 4 finalist in each catagory. Then ,by some other means, SC magazine selects the winners.


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Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: szc on February 26, 2006, 09:01:48 PM
Still not accurate IMHO... I bet if users didn't vote the way they did, SC would never pick these 4 as finalists. Just like we see those different antivirus reviews all over the internet... some are bad, some are good. Maybe SX would pick these 4, who knows... but for sure, this shouldn't be any guideline for how good some software is... maybe just how popular it is.

Some other things can tell us much better if program is good or bad... for example, technical support, how regular updates are, software team and clients/customers relationship, and some other factors.
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: Abraxas on February 28, 2006, 05:03:47 PM
I really don't care what method was used in the end to determine that Alwil Avast! got this well deserved prize. About time !
The amount of votes from Avast! Users was fantastic, and IMHO genuine  :)
As Vlk said:
Quote
Avast got about 200,000+ votes in those two days, whereas a typical figure for a competitor's product was something like 5,000 votes during the whole 3-week voting period.

The  guy at another AV forum who went to the trouble of joining that board to post against my recommending Avast! simply as a "good" AV ;  he actually called it SH*T , is going to have that thread resurrected, and told how wrong he was  ;D
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: szc on February 28, 2006, 07:13:50 PM
True, but still... what's the point if you have 3 millions people voted for one program and that was actually the only reason it got some award (not talking about avast! in this case) and you know there are some much better programs out there that didn't even bother to compete for some award. I would always want to know that my program got some award because it deserved it thanks to its quality, rather than the number of votes. We all know how voting usualy goes, so its never quite acurate.

And that guy from the other forum is nothing else but ignorant... I bet he has no clue about avast! or any other antivirus for that matter... he is just one of those who like to install/uninstall every second week, and worst of all, not even bothering to properly uninstall previous AV... just "stick" the new one on the top of the old one, and that's it... and then he wonders why his AV doesn't work the way he expects...
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: Abraxas on March 01, 2006, 01:34:45 PM
Yeah, I agree Sasha. I try hard to not " recommend " any software in general because it generally just turns into a pointless argument. Plus offering any sensible security advice can also have a similar effect, so let the people do as they will .

As far as Awards;  really they should have a Criteria as you said:
Quote
"... for example, technical support, how regular updates are, software team and clients/customers relationship, and some other factors."
Detection rates of true Malware infections , time taken releasing signatures to detect new outbreaks, essentially based on technical factors, rather than popular votes. I suppose the popularity of an AV program is realated to a users perception of these factors though, or you would hope so.

As far as the guy slamming Avast! , I couldn't be bothered tackling him. His stupidity will be his major Spyware threat.
Title: European Awards
Post by: HIPPO on April 26, 2006, 11:04:47 AM
Congratulations!

== SCAward ==
 READER TRUST AWARDS - European Awards  
   
• Best anti-malware solution
Overall Winner:   avast! Antivirus - ALWIL Software
   
 • Best Anti-spyware    
Winner:   Kaspersky Anti-Virus - Kaspersky Lab   
   
 • Best Anti-trojan    
Winner:   eSafe - Aladdin Knowledge Systems
   
 • Best Anti-virus    
Winner:   avast! Antivirus - ALWIL Software
   
 • Best Anti-worm    
Winner:   Kaspersky Anti-Virus - Kaspersky Lab
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: Lisandro on April 26, 2006, 01:36:35 PM
Congratulations  8)
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: XMAS on April 26, 2006, 02:01:35 PM
Congratulations  ;D ;D 8)
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: Vlk on April 26, 2006, 04:26:24 PM
BTW Here's the streaming video http://www.voiceprompt.co.uk/scawards/awards06_3.wvx
and in the beginning (approx. minute 1:30), you can see Pavel collecting the prize on the stage :D

Edit: Fixed the link to point to the correct stream ;)
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: DavidR on April 26, 2006, 04:31:22 PM
Congratulations on another great result ;D
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: CharleyO on April 27, 2006, 03:51:47 AM
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            Congratulations to alwil !!!


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Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: scaa on April 27, 2006, 11:14:34 AM
CONGRATULATIONS
Title: Re: SC Magazine awards 2006.
Post by: al968 on June 27, 2006, 01:55:46 AM
How do you vote for the 2007 ??? ???
I want to vote  ;D

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