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Title: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: REDACTED on June 13, 2015, 08:37:29 AM
I pay for an Internet Security license and only 2 clicks were enough to get my system infected by trojans, spyware, firefox 38 hickjacked and Avast did absolutely nothing to protect me, oh wait, yes, i remember 2 warnings telling my avast had blocked process x and y but that was all.....

Revo Uninstaller and malwarebytes were more useful removing all that garbage than Avast...

What a HUGE disappointment i'm NOT protected at the end of the day with Avast.
Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: Pondus on June 13, 2015, 08:55:04 AM
NO security program have 100% detection.... that includes Malwarebytes

what did Malwarebytes detect that avast did not? ..... can you post the log


if you could use revo uninstaller to clear this, then it sounds like it was PUP detections
have you turned avast PUP detection on?


Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: Eddy on June 13, 2015, 10:50:21 AM
I agree with Pondus.

What did you do with the warnings ?
Only 2 clicks ?
I find that really hard to believe.

Let me guess, you did not use a limited account but one with administrator rights.

Security starts with people, not with hard-/software !
Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: essexboy on June 13, 2015, 12:10:00 PM
Let me guess, you installed a programme and clicked your way through the add all toolbars you want pages and download these programmes to speed up the PC ?

That is the way that you get them and unless you tell Avast that you do not want pups then they will continue to appear

Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: REDACTED on June 13, 2015, 02:23:03 PM
NO security program have 100% detection.... that includes Malwarebytes

what did Malwarebytes detect that avast did not? ..... can you post the log


if you could use revo uninstaller to clear this, then it sounds like it was PUP detections
have you turned avast PUP detection on?

Check the thread of this title pretty much a beauty called Crossbrowswer. PUP = Potentially unwanted programs, yes they were many of them at least 4, i have Avast internet security installed with default settings.
Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: REDACTED on June 13, 2015, 02:33:16 PM
I agree with Pondus.

What did you do with the warnings ?
Only 2 clicks ?
I find that really hard to believe.

Let me guess, you did not use a limited account but one with administrator rights.

Security starts with people, not with hard-/software !

By 2 clicks i mean opening a false torrent file by mistake, yes i didn't notice the file was 1.2 Mb anyways i didn't received a Windows 7 warning asking me for admin rights.

And yes i've been using an admin account since the first day Windows 7 was released, so far 0 problems until last night with such an aggressive malware, pretty much Avast did NOTHING.

Yes yes it's easier to blame the user for you.... i disagree with your comment, Avast did nothing BEFORE and AFTER the infection.
Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: REDACTED on June 13, 2015, 02:36:44 PM
Let me guess, you installed a programme and clicked your way through the add all toolbars you want pages and download these programmes to speed up the PC ?

That is the way that you get them and unless you tell Avast that you do not want pups then they will continue to appear

As far as i remember i click the program, i got 0 Windows 7 admin warnings for this software, 3 or 4 avast pop ups telling me Avast had stopped them, and pretty much 1 malware got installed one after the other, there was nothing i could do about it. Even if you press cancel or try to close the window (which i couldn't) pretty much unstoppable.

No toolbars here and no mate i didn't download software to "speed up" my PC i'm not that noob. LOL  Now my PC appears to be cleaned again, in order to do that you need certain knowledge...
Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: Eddy on June 13, 2015, 02:39:28 PM
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That's all one can expect from these forums.
And that is is asking the same thing multiple times while the question has already been answered. It is even answered by someone from avast.

psikofunkster,
it is always a good practice to "explorer" the options/settings a application provides the user with.
So many systems, so many users, so many different needs/preferences. ;)

It is never a good idea to use a admin account or a account with admin rights for "daily" use.
Always use a limited account.
It offers more security.
Quote
pretty much Avast did NOTHING.
avast did gave you warnings and you seem to have ignored them.
Quote
Yes yes it's easier to blame the user
I almost 100% of all cases, it is the user that is at fault. A system doesn't say "Hé today, when my owner is sleeping, I am gonna do a bit of internet surfing and install things on my own".

If you follow these instructions, we will check if your system is really clean or not:
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=53253.0
Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: REDACTED on June 13, 2015, 02:44:22 PM
Quote
That's all one can expect from these forums.
And that is is asking the same thing multiple times while the question has already been answered. It is even answered by someone from avast.

psikofunkster,
it is always a good practice to "explorer" the options/settings a application provides the user with.
So many systems, so many users, so many different needs/preferences. ;)

It is never a good idea to use a admin account or a account with admin rights for "daily" use.
Always use a limited account.
It offers more security.
Quote
pretty much Avast did NOTHING.
avast did gave you warnings and you seem to have ignored them.
Quote
Yes yes it's easier to blame the user
I almost 100% of all cases, it is the user that is at fault. A system doesn't say "Hé today, when my owner is sleeping, I am gonna do a bit of internet surfing and install things on my own".

If you follow these instructions, we will check if your system is really clean or not:
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=53253.0

I didn't ignore any warnings, they were pop up messages telling me Avast has stopped certain dangerous process but didn't stop them all obviously.

Systems don't get infected by themselves that's pretty elemental my friend, still a GOOD software should be able to manage and stop this kind of infections (unless the user decides to install ALL that malware of course), AVAST did nothing before and after the infection that's why i'm posting here.

Come on mate you are linking me to a thread that suggest to use malwarebytes? LOL i KNOW!
Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: Eddy on June 13, 2015, 02:50:42 PM
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I didn't ignore any warnings, they were pop up messages telling me Avast has stopped certain dangerous process.
And you should have investigated what the pop-ups where about to prevent a infection or at least reduce the change on it.
Quote
still a GOOD software should be able to manage this kind of infections
avast is good software, but there is no software in the world that can detect/remove all bad things.
Quote
Come on mate you are linking me to a thread that suggest to use malwarebytes?
There is more in that post and I am not your mate.
Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: REDACTED on June 13, 2015, 02:52:39 PM
Quote
I didn't ignore any warnings, they were pop up messages telling me Avast has stopped certain dangerous process.
And you should have investigated what the pop-ups where about to prevent a infection or at least reduce the change on it.
Quote
still a GOOD software should be able to manage this kind of infections
avast is good software, but there is no software in the world that can detect/remove all bad things.
Quote
Come on mate you are linking me to a thread that suggest to use malwarebytes?
There is more in that post and I am not your mate.

There was nothing i could do, all happened too fast, do you think i had time to do some research?

I doubt that now, as i already mentioned Avast did nothing BEFORE and AFTER the infection, that's pretty lame.

You don't want me to call you my mate? sure, now could you please stop posting here? i  know you since long time ago and i've never liked your ways, thank you.
Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: REDACTED on June 13, 2015, 03:20:58 PM
@psikofunkster,

I read the thread and when a PC gets infected it is PIA....so emotions come out.
Perhaps the bedside manner of the Forum members is not warm & fuzzy but they know of what they talk about and that is the point.
The cold hard reality here is Avast is very good but not a complete solution.
You need to stack your security to truly have a good protection effort.....basically layered.
However, many people go from too little to WAY too much and they have software conflicts and PC burps.
It takes a lot of research on what is best, or best for you, what works well together, etc.
Also, good surfing/installing habits are really the best protection.  ;)

There are many whom will chime in BUT using Avast alone is NOT ENOUGH.....good, but not enough.
I use MalwareBytes Pro & Malware Anti-Exploit.
I don't get into the fancy Firewalls.....just use Windows.
I add CryptoPrevent.
Is this perfect.....no....others will talk about Adware Blockers, etc.....for that I use FireFox for my Browser with JAVA & Adware blockers.
Point of my config is that I don't spend my life updating, configing,.....I actually use my PC.....my families use theirs as well.
These all work nicely together and have minimal effect on PC performance.
Also, if you are set on using Admin account change your UAC to "Always Notify Me"......default is below that.

Just some suggestions.....what happened to you is in past.....can't dwell on it.....question is what action will you take moving forward.
Also, as suggested above......if you want to make sure your PC is truly clean....I highly recommend......then follow the link provided and you can even post the logs and there are fantastic virus experts in this Forum that will help.
It is worth the time.....maybe 30minutes to hour tops to run and post.
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=53253.0

Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: REDACTED on June 13, 2015, 03:25:26 PM
@psikofunkster,

I read the thread and when a PC gets infected it is PIA....so emotions come out.
Perhaps the bedside manner of the Forum members is not warm & fuzzy but they know of what they talk about and that is the point.
The cold hard reality here is Avast is very good but not a complete solution.
You need to stack your security to truly have a good protection effort.....basically layered.
However, many people go from too little to WAY too much and they have software conflicts and PC burps.
It takes a lot of research on what is best, or best for you, what works well together, etc.
Also, good habits are best protection.

There are many whom will chime in BUT using Avast alone is NOT ENOUGH.....good, but not enough.
I use MalwareBytes Pro & Malware Exploit.
I don't get into the fancy Firewalls.....just use Windows.
I add CryptoPrevent.
Is this perfect.....no....others will talk about Adware Blockers, etc.....for that I use FireFox for my Browser with JAVA & Adware blockers.
Point of my config is that I don't spend my life updating, configing,.....I actually use my PC.....my families use theirs as well.
These all work nicely together and have minimal effect on PC performance.
Also, if you are set on using Admin account change your UAC to "Always Notify Me"......default is below that.

Just some suggestions.....what happened to you is in past.....can't dwell on it.....question is what action will you take moving forward.
Also, as suggested above......if you want to make sure your PC is truly clean....I highly recommend......then follow the link provided and you can even post the logs and there are fantastic virus experts in this Forum that will help.
It is worth the time.....maybe 30minutes to hour tops to run and post.
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=53253.0

Yes i agree things can get fuzzy, but we are not here in the army thekochs also this is not the first time.

Thanks for your comments this is my Malwarebytes log by the way:

Code: [Select]
Malwarebytes Anti-Malware
www.malwarebytes.org


Procesos: 2
PUP.Optional.MultiPlug.Gen, C:\Users\x\AppData\Roaming\1E005D20-1434170721-4700-B238-C86000770EAC\nsmEC11.tmpfs, 2492, Se eliminará al Reiniciar, [07d06455f59530062b5b3c45867fcf31]
PUP.Optional.MultiPlug.Gen, C:\Users\x\AppData\Roaming\1E005D20-1434170721-4700-B238-C86000770EAC\hnsc5151.tmp, 2704, Se eliminará al Reiniciar, [07d06455f59530062b5b3c45867fcf31]

Modulos: 0
(Sin elementos maliciosos detectados)

Llaves del Registro: 37
PUP.Optional.MultiPlug.Gen, HKLM\SYSTEM\CURRENTCONTROLSET\SERVICES\jipuxyzu,  Cuarentena, [07d06455f59530062b5b3c45867fcf31],
PUP.Optional.MultiPlug.Gen, HKLM\SYSTEM\CURRENTCONTROLSET\SERVICES\zedepory,  Cuarentena, [07d06455f59530062b5b3c45867fcf31],
PUP.Optional.GlobalUpdate.A, HKLM\SOFTWARE\CLASSES\globalUpdateUpdate.CoreClass,  Cuarentena, [ae2946731674fc3adf37b7cbd035bb45],
PUP.Optional.GlobalUpdate.A, HKLM\SOFTWARE\CLASSES\globalUpdateUpdate.CoreClass.1,  Cuarentena, [8552ac0d0d7d4fe72ceaccb6e22310f0],
PUP.Optional.GlobalUpdate.A, HKLM\SOFTWARE\CLASSES\globalUpdateUpdate.OnDemandCOMClassSvc,  Cuarentena, [14c34871622833031afc2b5750b56997],
PUP.Optional.GlobalUpdate.A, HKLM\SOFTWARE\CLASSES\globalUpdateUpdate.OnDemandCOMClassSvc.1.0,  Cuarentena, [8453ad0cf7930a2cf422fb87da2b6b95],
PUP.Optional.GlobalUpdate.A, HKLM\SOFTWARE\CLASSES\globalUpdateUpdate.Update3COMClassService,  Cuarentena, [30a77e3b5d2d96a01df96c1685804cb4],
PUP.Optional.GlobalUpdate.A, HKLM\SOFTWARE\CLASSES\globalUpdateUpdate.Update3COMClassService.1.0,  Cuarentena, [a6319a1f7f0bda5ce92d661ca461af51],
PUP.Optional.GlobalUpdate.A, HKLM\SOFTWARE\CLASSES\globalUpdateUpdate.Update3WebSvc,  Cuarentena, [4d8ad1e8d3b778be75a13151d2331be5],
PUP.Optional.GlobalUpdate.A, HKLM\SOFTWARE\CLASSES\globalUpdateUpdate.Update3WebSvc.1.0,  Cuarentena, [bd1a8237642696a0ac6af78b24e1bd43],
PUP.Optional.Crossbrowse.A, HKLM\SOFTWARE\CLIENTS\STARTMENUINTERNET\Crossbrowse,  Cuarentena, [1cbba910fb8f9c9a1da0cf2263a0f60a],
PUP.Optional.ICinema.A, HKLM\SOFTWARE\WOW6432NODE\I - Cinema,  Cuarentena, [14c39e1beaa01f17e5727c9904003bc5],
PUP.Optional.ICinema.A, HKLM\SOFTWARE\WOW6432NODE\I - Cinema-nv-ie,  Cuarentena, [7a5d665391f984b2421553c2b64e7c84],
PUP.Optional.CrossRider.C, HKLM\SOFTWARE\WOW6432NODE\APPDATALOW\SOFTWARE\Crossrider,  Cuarentena, [716631881f6ba690a3be6689838046ba],
PUP.Optional.GlobalUpdate.A, HKLM\SOFTWARE\WOW6432NODE\CLASSES\globalUpdateUpdate.CoreClass,  Cuarentena, [4b8c7c3d5b2f7abc9b7ba8da0bfaeb15],
PUP.Optional.GlobalUpdate.A, HKLM\SOFTWARE\WOW6432NODE\CLASSES\globalUpdateUpdate.CoreClass.1,  Cuarentena, [a03736836426f83ebc5af38f16efaf51],
PUP.Optional.GlobalUpdate.A, HKLM\SOFTWARE\WOW6432NODE\CLASSES\globalUpdateUpdate.OnDemandCOMClassSvc,  Cuarentena, [f5e2af0a56347abccb4bc7bb42c34fb1],
PUP.Optional.GlobalUpdate.A, HKLM\SOFTWARE\WOW6432NODE\CLASSES\globalUpdateUpdate.OnDemandCOMClassSvc.1.0,  Cuarentena, [7d5a01b80486979f65b1750dcc399c64],
PUP.Optional.GlobalUpdate.A, HKLM\SOFTWARE\WOW6432NODE\CLASSES\globalUpdateUpdate.Update3COMClassService,  Cuarentena, [9344cdecc5c5b383cb4b92f09e670af6],
PUP.Optional.GlobalUpdate.A, HKLM\SOFTWARE\WOW6432NODE\CLASSES\globalUpdateUpdate.Update3COMClassService.1.0,  Cuarentena, [0fc85168791167cf62b4e0a2c441cb35],
PUP.Optional.GlobalUpdate.A, HKLM\SOFTWARE\WOW6432NODE\CLASSES\globalUpdateUpdate.Update3WebSvc,  Cuarentena, [3f988b2e543638fe54c23f4314f19d63],
PUP.Optional.GlobalUpdate.A, HKLM\SOFTWARE\WOW6432NODE\CLASSES\globalUpdateUpdate.Update3WebSvc.1.0,  Cuarentena, [5582c4f51b6fd95dee28ceb4f90c8977],
PUP.Optional.Crossbrowse.A, HKLM\SOFTWARE\WOW6432NODE\CLIENTS\STARTMENUINTERNET\Crossbrowse,  Cuarentena, [884ff2c7d2b8171f9d208f622cd7df21],
PUP.Optional.GlobalUpdate.C, HKLM\SOFTWARE\WOW6432NODE\GLOBALUPDATE\UPDATE\Clients,  Cuarentena, [31a64e6b602ab185e539216763a24eb2],
PUP.Optional.GlobalUpdate.T, HKLM\SOFTWARE\WOW6432NODE\GLOBALUPDATE\UPDATE,  Cuarentena, [d40361582466ed499eec4bcfc3419f61],
PUP.Optional.CrossRider.A, HKLM\SOFTWARE\WOW6432NODE\INSTALLEDBROWSEREXTENSIONS\25257,  Cuarentena, [c710b207e4a61026dfab3df4bf45af51],
PUP.Optional.Crossbrowse.A, HKLM\SOFTWARE\WOW6432NODE\MICROSOFT\MEDIAPLAYER\SHIMINCLUSIONLIST\crossbrowse.exe,  Cuarentena, [ddfab108e7a383b3bb00609140c3c739],
PUP.Optional.VoPackage.A, HKLM\SOFTWARE\WOW6432NODE\MICROSOFT\WINDOWS\CURRENTVERSION\UNINSTALL\VOPackage,  Cuarentena, [13c4a118652589ad691d116f43c24fb1],
PUP.Optional.GlobalUpdate.A, HKLM\SOFTWARE\WOW6432NODE\MOZILLAPLUGINS\@staging.google.com/globalUpdate Update;version=10,  Cuarentena, [d601a712b3d7bd79e78a9dd741c42dd3],
PUP.Optional.GlobalUpdate.A, HKLM\SOFTWARE\WOW6432NODE\MOZILLAPLUGINS\@staging.google.com/globalUpdate Update;version=4,  Cuarentena, [8d4adfda66240e28bdb5ea8a33d2e818],
PUP.Optional.ICinema.A, HKU\S-1-5-18\SOFTWARE\I - Cinema-nv-ie,  Cuarentena, [f7e08f2a3852b2847bdbc154996b2ad6],
PUP.Optional.Crossrider.C, HKU\S-1-5-18\SOFTWARE\APPDATALOW\SOFTWARE\_CrossriderRegNamePlaceHolder_,  Cuarentena, [29aef6c35535bc7a883695efa164d32d],
PUP.Optional.Crossbrowse.A, HKU\S-1-5-21-1083906515-1535575734-3129244981-1000\SOFTWARE\CrossBrowser,  Cuarentena, [983f714847437cbac4f43bb6fa0921df],
PUP.Optional.ICinema.A, HKU\S-1-5-21-1083906515-1535575734-3129244981-1000\SOFTWARE\I - Cinema-nv-ie,  Cuarentena, [409779401278d561243204115aaa8878],
PUP.Optional.CrossRider.A, HKU\S-1-5-21-1083906515-1535575734-3129244981-1000\SOFTWARE\APPDATALOW\SOFTWARE\Crossrider,  Cuarentena, [e3f4f1c8494162d4549cc79f9b6aa759],
PUP.Optional.GlobalUpdate.C, HKU\S-1-5-21-1083906515-1535575734-3129244981-1000\SOFTWARE\GLOBALUPDATE\UPDATE\PROXY,  Cuarentena, [6d6a26930f7b82b4d1b40be619ea7b85],
PUP.Optional.CrossRider.A, HKU\S-1-5-21-1083906515-1535575734-3129244981-1000\SOFTWARE\INSTALLEDBROWSEREXTENSIONS\iCinema,  Cuarentena, [af288336c2c8d85e04b4d32657ac956b],

Valores del Registro: 7
PUP.Optional.CrossBrowse.C, HKLM\SOFTWARE\REGISTEREDAPPLICATIONS|Crossbrowse, Software\Clients\StartMenuInternet\Crossbrowse\Capabilities,  Cuarentena, [6572843578121d19fbc2cbb99b6a847c]
PUP.Optional.GlobalUpdate.T, HKLM\SOFTWARE\WOW6432NODE\GLOBALUPDATE\UPDATE|path, C:\Program Files (x86)\globalUpdate\Update\GoogleUpdate.exe,  Cuarentena, [d40361582466ed499eec4bcfc3419f61]
PUP.Optional.GlobalUpdate.C, HKLM\SOFTWARE\WOW6432NODE\GLOBALUPDATE\UPDATEDEV|AuCheckPeriodMs, 21600000,  Cuarentena, [5b7c71481278ff3748aae50b26ddf20e]
PUP.Optional.CrossBrowse.C, HKLM\SOFTWARE\WOW6432NODE\REGISTEREDAPPLICATIONS|Crossbrowse, Software\Clients\StartMenuInternet\Crossbrowse\Capabilities,  Cuarentena, [c80f0eab8efc04323a831470c1449d63]
PUP.Optional.MultiPlug.A, HKLM\SYSTEM\CURRENTCONTROLSET\SERVICES\jipuxyzu|ImagePath, C:\Users\Antonio\AppData\Roaming\1E005D20-1434170721-4700-B238-C86000770EAC\nsmEC11.tmpfs,  Cuarentena, [8a4d9425f595b77f2ddfc0c0f11413ed]
PUP.Optional.MultiPlug.A, HKLM\SYSTEM\CURRENTCONTROLSET\SERVICES\zedepory|ImagePath, C:\Users\Antonio\AppData\Roaming\1E005D20-1434170721-4700-B238-C86000770EAC\hnsc5151.tmp,  Cuarentena, [60779128ef9bd066ee1faad616ef0ef2]
PUP.Optional.GlobalUpdate.C, HKU\S-1-5-21-1083906515-1535575734-3129244981-1000\SOFTWARE\GLOBALUPDATE\UPDATE\PROXY|source, Firefox,  Cuarentena, [6d6a26930f7b82b4d1b40be619ea7b85]

Datos del Registro: 0
(Sin elementos maliciosos detectados)

Carpetas: 1
PUP.Optional.MultiPlug.Gen, C:\Users\Antonio\AppData\Roaming\1E005D20-1434170721-4700-B238-C86000770EAC, Se eliminará al Reiniciar, [07d06455f59530062b5b3c45867fcf31],

Archivo: 32
PUP.Optional.Crossbrowse.C, C:\Windows\System32\Tasks\Crossbrowse,  Cuarentena, [eee97f3a91f9db5b107f1bd6b54e7b85],
PUP.Optional.Crossbrowse.C, C:\Windows\Tasks\Crossbrowse.job,  Cuarentena, [20b7a01947436accade38f62d52e41bf],
PUP.Optional.AnyProtect.A, C:\Windows\Tasks\APSnotifierPP1.job,  Cuarentena, [c71085345634aa8c87b4e80a16edae52],
PUP.Optional.AnyProtect.A, C:\Windows\Tasks\APSnotifierPP2.job,  Cuarentena, [0acdc3f66d1d58de53e807eb6b9832ce],
PUP.Optional.AnyProtect.A, C:\Windows\Tasks\APSnotifierPP3.job,  Cuarentena, [3b9cd1e84545bf778bb0767cb44f916f],
PUP.Optional.AnyProtect.A, C:\Windows\System32\Tasks\APSnotifierPP1,  Cuarentena, [b720378261292b0b79c3d51d61a2748c],
PUP.Optional.AnyProtect.A, C:\Windows\System32\Tasks\APSnotifierPP2,  Cuarentena, [9146f1c8c3c73204d76516dc60a30ef2],
PUP.Optional.AnyProtect.A, C:\Windows\System32\Tasks\APSnotifierPP3,  Cuarentena, [d70064551d6d999d2d0fe40e41c26799],
PUP.Optional.BoBrowser.A, C:\Windows\System32\Tasks\Run_Bobby_Browser,  Cuarentena, [47904d6c1773c670ace2fa050300d32d],
PUP.Optional.CrossRider.T, C:\Windows\System32\Tasks\4057785f-d913-4d78-a0ef-1719bcd27f50-1-6,  Cuarentena, [def9dfda0d7d9a9c11743bdfee16a35d],
PUP.Optional.CrossRider.T, C:\Windows\System32\Tasks\4057785f-d913-4d78-a0ef-1719bcd27f50-1-7,  Cuarentena, [00d7cced06842b0b75100812bb49d927],
PUP.Optional.CrossRider.T, C:\Windows\System32\Tasks\4057785f-d913-4d78-a0ef-1719bcd27f50-10_user,  Cuarentena, [84533f7a5535eb4bf392ad6d798b827e],
PUP.Optional.CrossRider.T, C:\Windows\System32\Tasks\4057785f-d913-4d78-a0ef-1719bcd27f50-11,  Cuarentena, [62753782e2a83afc463f36e4cf356e92],
PUP.Optional.CrossRider.T, C:\Windows\System32\Tasks\4057785f-d913-4d78-a0ef-1719bcd27f50-4,  Cuarentena, [77603a7fcfbb270fbdc8b367768e4ab6],
PUP.Optional.CrossRider.T, C:\Windows\System32\Tasks\4057785f-d913-4d78-a0ef-1719bcd27f50-5,  Cuarentena, [7b5c13a6107a181e2a5b0317ea1a9967],
PUP.Optional.CrossRider.T, C:\Windows\System32\Tasks\4057785f-d913-4d78-a0ef-1719bcd27f50-5_user,  Cuarentena, [57805f5aeaa0dc5aacd97c9e9c680000],
PUP.Optional.CrossRider.T, C:\Windows\Tasks\4057785f-d913-4d78-a0ef-1719bcd27f50-1-6.job,  Cuarentena, [d9fe22977a101d19fe6fafc380856997],
PUP.Optional.CrossRider.T, C:\Windows\Tasks\4057785f-d913-4d78-a0ef-1719bcd27f50-1-7.job,  Cuarentena, [35a24673b9d12313df8e77fb24e1d52b],
PUP.Optional.CrossRider.T, C:\Windows\Tasks\4057785f-d913-4d78-a0ef-1719bcd27f50-10_user.job,  Cuarentena, [f1e61e9bf79370c65716650d11f4c937],
PUP.Optional.CrossRider.T, C:\Windows\Tasks\4057785f-d913-4d78-a0ef-1719bcd27f50-11.job,  Cuarentena, [ebecd5e44e3c34023439e78b58ad38c8],
PUP.Optional.CrossRider.T, C:\Windows\Tasks\4057785f-d913-4d78-a0ef-1719bcd27f50-4.job,  Cuarentena, [d403f6c397f3c0762b42dd953fc6f50b],
PUP.Optional.CrossRider.T, C:\Windows\Tasks\4057785f-d913-4d78-a0ef-1719bcd27f50-5.job,  Cuarentena, [01d67643701a5dd996d7541e867f2bd5],
PUP.Optional.CrossRider.T, C:\Windows\Tasks\4057785f-d913-4d78-a0ef-1719bcd27f50-5_user.job,  Cuarentena, [b1267346454558de7eef0c664abb847c],
PUP.Optional.GlobalUpdate.A, C:\Windows\Tasks\globalUpdateUpdateTaskMachineCore.job,  Cuarentena, [7b5cbbfea3e7d75f1468561c31d4f709],
PUP.Optional.GlobalUpdate.A, C:\Windows\System32\Tasks\globalUpdateUpdateTaskMachineCore,  Cuarentena, [f4e35e5babdfd165e29bda98b352758b],
PUP.Optional.GlobalUpdate.A, C:\Windows\Tasks\globalUpdateUpdateTaskMachineUA.job,  Cuarentena, [bc1b655417732d09443a700258ad3ac6],
PUP.Optional.GlobalUpdate.A, C:\Windows\System32\Tasks\globalUpdateUpdateTaskMachineUA,  Cuarentena, [eee956638703290d106f383a62a37f81],
PUP.Optional.MultiPlug.Gen, C:\Users\x\AppData\Roaming\1E005D20-1434170721-4700-B238-C86000770EAC\nsmEC11.tmpfs, Se eliminará al Reiniciar, [07d06455f59530062b5b3c45867fcf31],
PUP.Optional.MultiPlug.Gen, C:\Users\x\AppData\Roaming\1E005D20-1434170721-4700-B238-C86000770EAC\hnsc5151.tmp, Se eliminará al Reiniciar, [07d06455f59530062b5b3c45867fcf31],
PUP.Optional.MultiPlug.Gen, C:\Users\x\AppData\Roaming\1E005D20-1434170721-4700-B238-C86000770EAC\rnsc1AC1.exe,  Cuarentena, [07d06455f59530062b5b3c45867fcf31],
PUP.Optional.MultiPlug.Gen, C:\Users\x\AppData\Roaming\1E005D20-1434170721-4700-B238-C86000770EAC\Uninstall.exe,  Cuarentena, [07d06455f59530062b5b3c45867fcf31],
PUP.Optional.MultiPlug.Gen, C:\Users\x\AppData\Roaming\1E005D20-1434170721-4700-B238-C86000770EAC\vnsmE528.tmp,  Cuarentena, [07d06455f59530062b5b3c45867fcf31],

Sectores Físicos: 0
(Sin elementos maliciosos detectados)


(end)

Also, if you are set on using Admin account change your UAC to "Always Notify Me"......default is below that.

I'm gonna double check that right now.

Well regarding the future i really think i'm gonna have to move to Windows 10 as soon as it gets available, i found windows 7 Ultimate 64 bits last night pretty vulnerable too..

I'd really love a premium version of malwarebytes too...

I do accept my fault i executed a dangerous file accidentally, however i never bypassed any warning messages or installed something on purpose, pretty aggressive malware here...I've never seen something like that before to be sincere...

I'm not sure about this but i  think remembering that even when i tried to uninstall some of those PUPs apparently the uninstall process installed more of them...just my impression.
Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: Rednose on June 13, 2015, 03:32:23 PM
Hi psikofunkster :)

It is still not clear to me how you became infected.
Did you download - and run a software installer, were you browsing the internet or ...
As you are using AIS it is a pitty you only use it by default, because you can do so much more.


For example :

- Avast - Settings - General - Check for potentially unwanted programs ( PUPs )
- Avast - Settings - Active Protection - Webshield - Customise - Main settings - Warn when downloading files with poor reputation

You can tighten your security even more :

- Avast - Settings - General - Enable Hardened Mode

Sandbox your Browser(s) :

- Avast - Settings - Tools - Sandbox - Customise - Virtualised processses - Add - ...

And as your are using the Sandbox under an Admin account :

- Avast - Settings - Tools - Sandbox - Customise - Parameters - Drop administrative rights and run virtualised applications as a limited user


Ofcource you can change a lot more, depending on your demands. But this would be a good start.
But before you are going to change your settings, backup your current first :

- Avast - Settings - General - Back up setings

Greetz, Red.
Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: essexboy on June 13, 2015, 03:38:38 PM
MBAM suggests it is the ASK toolbar and browser hijacker.  This is usually bundled with other software and hidden in the installer package.   As Rednose states setting PUP's on is a good first step

There may be additional element that MBAM failed to get so you could use AdwCleaner to kill those

Please download AdwCleaner (http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/adwcleaner/) by Xplode onto your desktop.
Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: REDACTED on June 13, 2015, 03:39:50 PM

You can tighten your security even more :

- Avast - Settings - General - Enable Hardened Mode

To add to very good suggestion.........
{Avast 9 Path}
- Avast - Settings - Antivirus - Enable Hardended Mode - Aggressive
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=142172.msg1032485#msg1032485
Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: REDACTED on June 13, 2015, 03:55:28 PM
Hi psikofunkster :)

It is still not clear to me how you became infected.
Did you download - and run a software installer, were you browsing the internet or ...
As you are using AIS it is a pitty you only use it by default, because you can do so much more.


For example :

- Avast - Settings - General - Check for potentially unwanted programs ( PUPs )
- Avast - Settings - Active Protection - Webshield - Customise - Main settings - Warn when downloading files with poor reputation

You can tighten your security even more :

- Avast - Settings - General - Enable Hardened Mode

Sandbox your Browser(s) :

- Avast - Settings - Tools - Sandbox - Customise - Virtualised processses - Add - ...

And as your are using the Sandbox under an Admin account :

- Avast - Settings - Tools - Sandbox - Customise - Parameters - Drop administrative rights and run virtualised applications as a limited user


Ofcource you can change a lot more, depending on your demands. But this would be a good start.
But before you are going to change your settings, backup your current first :

- Avast - Settings - General - Back up setings

Greetz, Red.

Hi Rednose,

Well yes my fault here, i downloaded a torrent file, i have the link here right now by the way, instead of double clicking on it i double clicked another file that was downloaded at the same time...right now i'm watching the extension...an exe file. =(

I tried to execute the exe again a few moments ago and yes, my bad, it is asking me for an admin permit....sight i must have given to it last night accidentally, it was late and i was tired...that's 100% my mistake....sigh.. :-X


However as soon i double clicked it there was pretty much nothing i could do about it, Avast intercepted  like 4 processes yes, if i remember correctly but other windows appeared, i might have clicked on the cancel and windows close ( X ) buttons (event alt+f) but i do remember there was a window which i never could close...after that i restarted the PC.


After the PC restarted i proceeded to uninstall the PUPs, all my firefox icons were replaced by the Crossbrowser icons and i wasn't able to close the crossbrowser process, also the crossbroser window opened itself by default.
I run Super antispyware detected trojans and bad cookies, deleted them, but the crossbrowser was still there also i couldn't remove it, i downloaded revo uninstaller portable and it finally uninstalled the crossbrowser.
And yes i performed a full Avast scan before all that...0 detections.

Yes i gave a malware exe file admin rights during the execution...i'm a fool i can't argue that now,however after that Avast did almost nothing for me...it's that a normal behaviour? and yes, i was using AIS by default...now i know i need to change that.

Thanks for your tips i'm gonna read them.
Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: Rednose on June 13, 2015, 04:21:40 PM
Hi, psikofunkster :)

Personally I wouldn't download and/or execute anything from unreliable sources such as Torrents.
But when you do, you also have the choise to execute them in the Sandbox : Right click the file - Run in Sandbox.
Don't forget to drop the Admin Rights of the Sandbox first though, as I descriped earlier.
But remember : With a Sandbox it is like with all security, there is no 100% guarantee that you are safe.

Greetz, Red.
Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: REDACTED on June 13, 2015, 04:33:40 PM
Hey Rednose do you know if there's a way to know if i'm 100% clean currently? i've already executed 3 utilities a few times like malwarebytes, anti spyware and avast but i'm still not sure...i used to have the anti spyware utility with me only, but last night i gave a try to the malwarebytes too, well it detected  even more malware... 
Now i don't know if i should reinstall windows 7 again or just wait for windows 10...what a pain.  :-[


and yes i know since long time ago some people don't recommend to use a windows admin account for the daily windows use. However i install and uninstall software pretty frequently (among other things), it's a pain for me to change between accounts that frequently, i know there's a risk involved doing that though.

I only wish Avast could have done more for me here. That's all, that's why i'm complaining here. Yes i executed an infected exe file i admit my fault, however i would have loved Avast to stop that exe completely not partially...Avast never warned me about its execution, it stopped some processes? yes but allowed others..

Now i must pay and face the pain to install windows again...
Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: essexboy on June 13, 2015, 04:47:19 PM
Lets have a manual look see

Please download Farbar Recovery Scan Tool (http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/files/file/435-frst-farbars-recovery-scan-tool/) and save it to your Desktop.
 
Note: You need to run the version compatible with your system. If you are not sure which version applies to your system download both of them and try to run them. Only one of them will run on your system, that will be the right version.
 
Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: REDACTED on June 13, 2015, 05:00:57 PM
Lets have a manual look see

Please download Farbar Recovery Scan Tool (http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/files/file/435-frst-farbars-recovery-scan-tool/) and save it to your Desktop.
 
Note: You need to run the version compatible with your system. If you are not sure which version applies to your system download both of them and try to run them. Only one of them will run on your system, that will be the right version.
 
  • Right click to run as administrator (XP users click run after receipt of Windows Security Warning - Open File). When the tool opens click Yes to disclaimer.
  • Select  additions at the bottom
  • Press Scan button.
    (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/73555776/frst.JPG)
  • It will produce a log called FRST.txt in the same directory the tool is run from. 
  • Please attach both logs generated.


Thanks for your help.



I attached the file, but i'm definitely going to reinstall the OS (peace of mind), i've never experienced an infection like this, it was one malware after the other...I've been using PC's since 1989 and this was the most aggressive by far... 10 evil cookies, 4 trojans, 4 PUBs...  IMO an attempt to install one brought even more...
Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: essexboy on June 13, 2015, 05:35:12 PM
It just shows how aggressive adware is nowadays..  However a reformat would be an overkill as this was adware pure and simple nothing else like key loggers etc. are present

CAUTION :  This fix is only valid for this specific machine, using it on another may break your computer

Open notepad and copy/paste the text in the quotebox below into it:
 
Quote
CreateRestorePoint:
S2 ClaraUpdater; C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\ClaraUpdater\ClaraUpdater.exe [X]
2015-06-11 00:28 - 2015-06-09 12:28 - 00000040 ____H C:\Program Files (x86)\153a83b3.tmp
2015-06-01 10:24 - 2015-06-09 20:18 - 00000000 ____D C:\ProgramData\boost_interprocess
2015-05-15 11:30 - 2015-05-15 11:30 - 00000038 ___SH C:\Users\Antonio\AppData\Local\69ff07055291669bb2b218.72821112
2015-06-12 23:45 - 2014-12-10 11:57 - 00000000 __SHD C:\Users\Antonio\AppData\Local\EmieBrowserModeList
2015-06-12 23:45 - 2014-10-07 21:51 - 00000000 __SHD C:\Users\Antonio\AppData\Local\EmieUserList
2015-06-12 23:45 - 2014-10-07 21:51 - 00000000 __SHD C:\Users\Antonio\AppData\Local\EmieSiteList
C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\ClaraUpdater
Reg: reg delete HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\IPSec\Policy\Local /f
Reg: reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\IPSec\Policy\Local /f
RemoveProxy:
EmptyTemp:
CMD: bitsadmin /reset /allusers

 
Save this as fixlist.txt, in the same location as FRST.exe
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/73555776/FRSTfix.JPG)
Run FRST and press Fix
On completion a log will be generated please post that
Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: Rednose on June 13, 2015, 05:38:53 PM
Hi psikofunkster :)

You are in good hands with Essexboy, I would trust on his advise if I were you :)
But one last ( and maybe the most important ) tip :

Start making regular ( weekly ) image backups, and store them on an external HD.
It safes you the trouble from installing your OS again in case something goes wrong.
Windows 7 and up have all the tools build in for a good backup strategy.

Greetz, Red.
Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: Pondus on June 13, 2015, 05:47:35 PM
Quote
i have Avast internet security installed with default settings.
Default is PUP off ..... and PUP is not a infection, there are those who want to have some of this crap
Malwarebytes also have the option to ignore PUP, and i think default is warn but not remove, and i think avast should use that also

Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: REDACTED on June 14, 2015, 02:32:28 AM
You are in good hands with Essexboy, I would trust on his advise if I were you :)

2nd that !

Run Essexboy's Fixlist (Reply #21) and see if resolves....he is the expert here.
Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: Rednose on June 14, 2015, 03:51:17 AM
A topic like this also shows that people who are using/buying Avast, don't know how to take advantage of it.
I think Avast and we ( volunteers/helpers ) should think about how to improve that.

Greetz, Red.
Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: bob3160 on June 14, 2015, 05:42:35 AM
A topic like this also shows that people who are using/buying Avast, don't know how to take advantage of it.
I think Avast and we ( volunteers/helpers ) should think about how to improve that.

Greetz, Red.
Sorry Red but that improvement needs to come from Avast by making users more aware of this forum and,
the Free help available here.
Maybe if the forum help were advertised as much as the third party help, that would be a good start. :)
Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: Eddy on June 14, 2015, 03:53:54 PM
Quote
i'm a fool i can't argue that now
I don't think you are. You where tired when you got your system infected. It is like with driving a car, don't drive when tired. Same goes for pc's. Don't use them if you are tired. Have a good rest first.

It seems to me you have calmed down after the frustration about the infection and are learning (new) things now.
That is good to read/see.

Please attach addition.txt create by Farbar to a next post so someone can have a look at that too.
Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: essexboy on June 14, 2015, 04:52:32 PM
Just started on another crossbrowser problem :)

Quote
Ads keep popping up on Chrome, even though my pop up blocker is turned on. I have Norton and Malwarebytes for security. Each time I run both there are multiple threats detected that neither can completely clean
Quote
C:\Users\****\AppData\Local\wd
C:\ProgramData\FlashBeat
C:\PROGRA~2\SearchProtect
C:\ProgramData\0f3b5471928b4fd3834dad205fba7597
C:\Program Files\shopperz
C:\Program Files (x86)\RelevantKnowledge
C:\Program Files (x86)\Crossbrowse
Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: REDACTED on June 17, 2015, 02:51:47 AM
It just shows how aggressive adware is nowadays..  However a reformat would be an overkill as this was adware pure and simple nothing else like key loggers etc. are present


Spyware showed 4 trojans found too, also firefox was completely hickjacked even the icons replaced, and although i apparently solved those issues i wasn't sure...  I opted to go the hard path this time and i installed windows 7 during the weekend, what a pain is to do that more thatn 200 windows update already, took me an entire day... but that's Microsoft blame.

Time for me to buy a dedicated SSD and also adopt windows 10 when ready.

This advice stays with me as long as i use avast:

- Avast - Settings - General - Check for potentially unwanted programs ( PUPs )

IMO it should be enabled by default...we get the avast ads instead...just saying.

I'm not sure about this though:

Avast - Settings - Antivirus - Enable Hardended Mode - Aggressive


I will be continue using an admin windows 7 account though and keeping disabled the avast online security pluging...at my own risk.

Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: bob3160 on June 17, 2015, 03:26:40 AM
It just shows how aggressive adware is nowadays..  However a reformat would be an overkill as this was adware pure and simple nothing else like key loggers etc. are present


Spyware showed 4 trojans found too, also firefox was completely hickjacked even the icons replaced, and although i apparently solved those issues i wasn't sure...  I opted to go the hard path this time and i installed windows 7 during the weekend, what a pain is to do that more thatn 200 windows update already, took me an entire day... but that's Microsoft blame.

Time for me to buy a dedicated SSD and also adopt windows 10 when ready.

This advice stays with me as long as i use avast:

- Avast - Settings - General - Check for potentially unwanted programs ( PUPs )

IMO it should be enabled by default...we get the avast ads instead...just saying.

I'm not sure about this though:

Avast - Settings - Antivirus - Enable Hardended Mode - Aggressive


I will be continue using an admin windows 7 account though and keeping disabled the avast online security pluging...at my own risk.
It certainly isn't MS fault that you don't do regular image backups. The function is available and works well. :)
Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: REDACTED on June 17, 2015, 03:38:30 AM
It just shows how aggressive adware is nowadays..  However a reformat would be an overkill as this was adware pure and simple nothing else like key loggers etc. are present


Spyware showed 4 trojans found too, also firefox was completely hickjacked even the icons replaced, and although i apparently solved those issues i wasn't sure...  I opted to go the hard path this time and i installed windows 7 during the weekend, what a pain is to do that more thatn 200 windows update already, took me an entire day... but that's Microsoft blame.

Time for me to buy a dedicated SSD and also adopt windows 10 when ready.

This advice stays with me as long as i use avast:

- Avast - Settings - General - Check for potentially unwanted programs ( PUPs )

IMO it should be enabled by default...we get the avast ads instead...just saying.

I'm not sure about this though:

Avast - Settings - Antivirus - Enable Hardended Mode - Aggressive


I will be continue using an admin windows 7 account though and keeping disabled the avast online security pluging...at my own risk.
It certainly isn't MS fault that you don't do regular image backups. The function is available and works well. :)

I'm too obsessive about old software being installed as part of the new installation, i prefer to perform a clean installation when i need to.

What i'm talking here about is a thing called Service Packs...used to be pretty handy.

In large software applications such as office suites, operating systems, database software, or network management, it is not uncommon to have a service pack issued within the first year or two of a product's release. Installing a service pack is easier and less error-prone than installing many individual patches, even more so when updating multiple computers over a network, where service packs are common.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_pack


and yes i know this already:

Microsoft has never commented on the possibility to release a second service pack for Windows 7 users, but with so many new Windows versions hitting the shelves, it’s pretty clear that the company has abandoned this concept. Instead, it goes for rapid releases, as outgoing CEO said so many times, so large updates and new Windows editions are expected to come at least annually.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Microsoft-Suggests-That-No-Windows-7-Service-Pack-2-Is-Coming-389947.shtml

Perhaps Microsoft should stop releasing unpopular windows versions like vista, 8 and 8.1? Perhaps then more people will move on???.

Anyways Windows 10 is almost here, time to start again.
Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: bob3160 on June 17, 2015, 04:03:40 AM
Not a thing wrong with Windows 8.1. Been using it since early beta days.
It's actually faster than Windows 10. The only thing that gave Windows 8 a bad rap was a missing start menu
which was very easy to overcome.
Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: REDACTED on June 17, 2015, 04:07:05 AM
Not a thing wrong with Windows 8.1. Been using it since early beta days.
It's actually faster than Windows 10. The only thing that gave Windows 8 a bad rap was a missing start menu
which was very easy to overcome.

Exactly the start menu (among other things). I don't think that was easy for Microsoft to overcome at least not yet, windows 10 is supposed to be a new start (well more or less).
Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: bob3160 on June 17, 2015, 04:13:22 AM
Not a thing wrong with Windows 8.1. Been using it since early beta days.
It's actually faster than Windows 10. The only thing that gave Windows 8 a bad rap was a missing start menu
which was very easy to overcome.

Exactly the start menu (among other things). I don't think that was easy for Microsoft to overcome at least not yet, windows 10 is supposed to be a new start (well more or less).
Classic Shell (http://www.classicshell.net/downloads/) has been available for Windows 8 since very early beta days for those that felt lost without the standard start menu. The latest version also works in Windows 10. :)
Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: Rednose on June 17, 2015, 04:41:44 AM
i prefer to perform a clean installation when i need to.

But if you make an image of the clean installation, you only have to put it back - and update it when needed. It would safe you time :)

This advice stays with me as long as i use avast:

- Avast - Settings - General - Check for potentially unwanted programs ( PUPs )

At least we have learned you something my friend ;)

Greetz, Red.
Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: REDACTED on July 07, 2015, 07:26:35 PM
i prefer to perform a clean installation when i need to.

But if you make an image of the clean installation, you only have to put it back - and update it when needed. It would safe you time :)

This advice stays with me as long as i use avast:

- Avast - Settings - General - Check for potentially unwanted programs ( PUPs )

At least we have learned you something my friend ;)

Greetz, Red.

IMO that something shouldn't be learned Renose, i don't know why it is not enabled by default for all users, instead the Avast ads are enabled even for subs....just saying...

Regarding the image, Windows 10 is almost here and i'm planning to move from Windows 7 finally also i will be adopting a full SSD for the first time and because windows 10 has new special features to restore a system i think making an image wouldn't be anymore an issue, a clean restore with all the windows updates included by default will be more than enough for me.
Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: Eddy on July 07, 2015, 07:35:52 PM
Always have a (recent) image and backups of data.
A OS (or other software) can give you a lot of options, but they won't do you any good if your drive(s) break down.
Title: Re: Avast your protection is a Joke by Crossbrowser
Post by: bob3160 on July 07, 2015, 11:45:34 PM
Having an Image backup available has always been a lifesaver and wouldn't be any different after Windows 10 has been released.
I already create an image backup of my Windows 10 partition. It's a lot easier to restore it than to rte-install Windows 10 and again
add all of the programs. :)