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Title: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: MartinZ on April 25, 2016, 10:40:43 PM
Hi all,

new beta version is live: 2016.11.2.2262

Changes:
- fixed crashing installations
- fixed BSOD on AMD processors
- fixed problem with huge antispam log
- fixed repeatedly adding SafeZone browser icon on desktop after program update
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: Secondmineboy on April 25, 2016, 10:51:26 PM
2016.11.2.2262 Shouldnt this be 2016.11.3.2262 ? Maybe?
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: MartinZ on April 25, 2016, 11:01:03 PM
Nope, it's just minor update, mainly bug fixing  ;)
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: Secondmineboy on April 25, 2016, 11:16:18 PM
I really wonder what you have down the pipeline on features ?

As Vlk already teased in another topic (I guess you read it?).
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: Dwarden on April 26, 2016, 04:51:42 AM
does this beta resolve the leak I found ? (internal tracker issue AV-9931 )
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: RejZoR on April 26, 2016, 07:30:47 AM
Will NG actually work again in this build? It's broken in 2261...
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: petr.chytil on April 26, 2016, 08:49:12 AM
Yes, Dwarden. The issue AV-9931 is already fixed in this build.
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: AndreaVr on April 26, 2016, 09:57:37 AM
Hi all,

new beta version is live: 2016.11.2.2262

Changes:
- fixed crashing installations
- fixed BSOD on AMD processors
- fixed problem with huge antispam log
- fixed repeatedly adding SafeZone browser icon on desktop after program update


Great seems that with this version also has been fixed the bug to build 14328 version of windows 10 insider, now I am installing windows defender, and then I have to turn off at the next reboot see if the problem has been solved or not, for now after installing it It tells me that the computer is protected

Update:
As we said the problem with the version build 14328 has not been resolved
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: AndreaVr on April 26, 2016, 10:05:40 AM
In this version is still present, however, the bug that does not allow the authentication of avast account, says that you are not connected to the network even if you are connected
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: DavidR on April 26, 2016, 03:58:59 PM
Another issue was reported in earlier builds and current 11.2.2263:

AvastUI > Tools > Statistics - Real-time data: Screen is populated with figures, which last a few seconds and is cleared. 

Same Statistics areas: Memory leak and high CPU.
With this statistics window open, a second avastUI.exe appears in the task manager and immediately climbs to 50/51% and the memory used runs away like a home sick angel.

Whilst the CPU remains at that level, whilst compiling this post, RAM keeps climbing already up to 1.5GB and rising with no end in sight.

Seems to have stabilised at 1,602,696 possibly because running low on RAM - a further point of note CPU has lowered to 30+% but still not good. Closing the Stats window returns things to normality.

Has this been resolved in this beta build ?
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: petr.chytil on April 26, 2016, 06:50:16 PM
AndreaVr,
we are aware of issues with the latest Windows 10 insider build and it is currently being investigated. If you installed the latest beta again, could you please send me any .mdmp files present in the Avast log folder (typically C:\ProgramData\AVAST Software\Avast\log\)?. The issue is being internally tracked as AV-9977.

DavidR,
thanks for the report. Unfortunately, this issue will not be addressed in this release. However it is known to us and will be resolved in the next major release (internal bug id AV-9844).
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: DavidR on April 26, 2016, 07:18:02 PM
<snip>
DavidR,
thanks for the report. Unfortunately, this issue will not be addressed in this release. However it is known to us and will be resolved in the next major release (internal bug id AV-9844).

Thanks for the clarification.
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: Secondmineboy on April 26, 2016, 07:51:11 PM
Theres still an Easter Egg inside Avast:

file:///C:/Program%20Files/AVAST%20Software/Avast/resources/slot.htm

^^Open in a browser :)
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: AndreaVr on April 26, 2016, 07:56:01 PM
AndreaVr,
we are aware of issues with the latest Windows 10 insider build and it is currently being investigated. If you installed the latest beta again, could you please send me any .mdmp files present in the Avast log folder (typically C:\ProgramData\AVAST Software\Avast\log\)?. The issue is being internally tracked as AV-9977.

DavidR,
thanks for the report. Unfortunately, this issue will not be addressed in this release. However it is known to us and will be resolved in the next major release (internal bug id AV-9844).

I'm sorry but I looked anchio in that folder and there was no LOG
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: DavidR on April 26, 2016, 08:02:03 PM
AndreaVr,
we are aware of issues with the latest Windows 10 insider build and it is currently being investigated. If you installed the latest beta again, could you please send me any .mdmp files present in the Avast log folder (typically C:\ProgramData\AVAST Software\Avast\log\)?. The issue is being internally tracked as AV-9977.
<snip>

I'm sorry but I looked anchio in that folder and there was no LOG

It wasn't a log that was being asked for, but any .mdmp files that happened to be in that log sub-folder.
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: Dwarden on April 26, 2016, 10:11:57 PM
Yes, Dwarden. The issue AV-9931 is already fixed in this build.

I'm afraid you wrong or the fix isn't working properly ... more details tomorrow
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: Coolmario88 on April 27, 2016, 01:24:11 AM
Hi all,

new beta version is live: 2016.11.2.2262

Changes:
- fixed crashing installations
- fixed BSOD on AMD processors
- fixed problem with huge antispam log
- fixed repeatedly adding SafeZone browser icon on desktop after program update
Does this fix the issue with avast where the icon isn't animated any more even tho the option is ticked in settings?

Also I found out in the stable version i am using, the "show avast icon" if you untick it, it don't even hide the icon at all.. Its still there.. Did you guys forget to code this option perhaps?
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: Dwarden on April 27, 2016, 08:25:50 AM
Yes, Dwarden. The issue AV-9931 is already fixed in this build.

I'm afraid you wrong or the fix isn't working properly ... more details tomorrow

details, just after 24h of run https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=185548.msg1309501#msg1309501
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: RejZoR on April 27, 2016, 09:24:37 AM
Will NG actually work again in this build? It's broken in 2261...
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: Alikhan on April 27, 2016, 06:43:32 PM
Will NG actually work again in this build? It's broken in 2261...

I will also like to know the answer to this.

I'd also like to see Avast load a lot faster at startup than it currently is - very slow compared to some other AV vendors.
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: Vlk on April 28, 2016, 12:07:38 AM
Hi everyone,

After much reflection, we have decided to pull the NG technology from the client-side Avast for the being. The technology has a great potential, and it's delivering great results in our cloud-based systems - but these run in a fully controlled environment, which is much different from making it work on a myriad of Windows/PC configurations that are out there...

With that said, we have some bigger announcements to be made regarding NG and the whole engine, but I don't want to do that just now as this time, we really want to be sure there are real results that you can actually see and verify for yourself before we make any bold announcements...

The only thing I would say for now is that the whole team has been working theirs butts off to make a real difference...

Thanks
Vlk
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: Secondmineboy on April 28, 2016, 12:15:22 AM
Hi everyone,

After much reflection, we have decided to pull the NG technology from the client-side Avast for the being. The technology has a great potential, and it's delivering great results in our cloud-based systems - but these run in a fully controlled environment, which is much different from making it work on a myriad of Windows/PC configurations that are out there...

With that said, we have some bigger announcements to be made regarding NG and the whole engine, but I don't want to do that just now as this time, we really want to be sure there are real results that you can actually see and verify for yourself before we make any bold announcements...

The only thing I would say for now is that the whole team has been working theirs butts off to make a real difference...

Thanks
Vlk

Will we see something in the direction of Ransomware and Exploit Protection soon?

And better anti-phishing?
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: Vlk on April 28, 2016, 12:22:50 AM
Will we see something in the direction of Ransomware and Exploit Protection soon?

And better anti-phishing?

What makes you think that we're not doing a good job at Ransomware, Exploits and Phishing?
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: Secondmineboy on April 28, 2016, 12:25:31 AM
Will we see something in the direction of Ransomware and Exploit Protection soon?

And better anti-phishing?

What makes you think that we're not doing a good job at Ransomware, Exploits and Phishing?

Ransomware as far as i know only gets blocked by sigs, theres nothing really automated here.

Exploits i think is the same story, experience with my grandpas PC, 6 of 7 exploits blocked but the 7th one crashed the machine.

Phishing is actually not that great (tested myself in VMs) Here a heuristic or alot of improvements on the Cloud backend could turn out really well.

Overall your Cloud has alot of potential thats not greatly used by now, but you cant go to cloud dependent as well.
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: Lord_Ami on April 28, 2016, 12:30:11 AM
Quote
Ransomware as far as i know only gets blocked by sigs, theres nothing really automated here.
Just today I saw ransomware get detected by DeepScreen. Overall, DeepScreen is not that bad at all. It's quite OK and detects many files.

I believe VLK would like to share some statistics regarding DeepScreen detections but that may not be possible.
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: Secondmineboy on April 28, 2016, 12:34:05 AM
Quote
Ransomware as far as i know only gets blocked by sigs, theres nothing really automated here.
Just today I saw ransomware get detected by DeepScreen. Overall, DeepScreen is not that bad at all. It's quite OK and detects many files.

I believe VLK would like to share some statistics regarding DeepScreen detections but that may not be possible.

Well DeepScreen blocks these too of course but i see alot of nasty stuff, including ransomware just going by.
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: Coolmario88 on April 28, 2016, 03:36:12 AM
Hi everyone,

After much reflection, we have decided to pull the NG technology from the client-side Avast for the being. The technology has a great potential, and it's delivering great results in our cloud-based systems - but these run in a fully controlled environment, which is much different from making it work on a myriad of Windows/PC configurations that are out there...

With that said, we have some bigger announcements to be made regarding NG and the whole engine, but I don't want to do that just now as this time, we really want to be sure there are real results that you can actually see and verify for yourself before we make any bold announcements...

The only thing I would say for now is that the whole team has been working theirs butts off to make a real difference...

Thanks
Vlk
I look forward to see what you guys announce  :)
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: RejZoR on April 28, 2016, 08:13:19 AM
Hi everyone,

After much reflection, we have decided to pull the NG technology from the client-side Avast for the being. The technology has a great potential, and it's delivering great results in our cloud-based systems - but these run in a fully controlled environment, which is much different from making it work on a myriad of Windows/PC configurations that are out there...

With that said, we have some bigger announcements to be made regarding NG and the whole engine, but I don't want to do that just now as this time, we really want to be sure there are real results that you can actually see and verify for yourself before we make any bold announcements...

The only thing I would say for now is that the whole team has been working theirs butts off to make a real difference...

Thanks
Vlk

Wouldn't a reverse NG make more sense? Analysis done server side would pose a bigger bandwidth and processing power challenge, but would also eliminate client side problems people have with NG as well as make it even more difficult for bad guys to exploit it since they can't fiddle with it on your servers like they probably still can with local installation. And you can update and modify it at any time since it would be on your servers and not on local user clients.
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: Alikhan on April 28, 2016, 10:53:44 AM
Hi everyone,

After much reflection, we have decided to pull the NG technology from the client-side Avast for the being. The technology has a great potential, and it's delivering great results in our cloud-based systems - but these run in a fully controlled environment, which is much different from making it work on a myriad of Windows/PC configurations that are out there...

With that said, we have some bigger announcements to be made regarding NG and the whole engine, but I don't want to do that just now as this time, we really want to be sure there are real results that you can actually see and verify for yourself before we make any bold announcements...

The only thing I would say for now is that the whole team has been working theirs butts off to make a real difference...

Thanks
Vlk

Ok that statement is fair enough and answers the question well however an earlier response would have been much better regarding NG since it's been so confusing.

I look forward to seeing the future announcements.

Regarding protection to Ransomware, the protection certainly needs to be improved in a pro-active way.

I have ran many samples via VM and to be fair some have been caught by the cloud and Filerep but most of the time, the files are analyzed by DeepScreen and just let get through.

What exactly is the purpose of the new HIPS?
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: Vlk on April 28, 2016, 11:14:42 AM
Hi everyone,

After much reflection, we have decided to pull the NG technology from the client-side Avast for the being. The technology has a great potential, and it's delivering great results in our cloud-based systems - but these run in a fully controlled environment, which is much different from making it work on a myriad of Windows/PC configurations that are out there...

With that said, we have some bigger announcements to be made regarding NG and the whole engine, but I don't want to do that just now as this time, we really want to be sure there are real results that you can actually see and verify for yourself before we make any bold announcements...

The only thing I would say for now is that the whole team has been working theirs butts off to make a real difference...

Thanks
Vlk

Wouldn't a reverse NG make more sense? Analysis done server side would pose a bigger bandwidth and processing power challenge, but would also eliminate client side problems people have with NG as well as make it even more difficult for bad guys to exploit it since they can't fiddle with it on your servers like they probably still can with local installation. And you can update and modify it at any time since it would be on your servers and not on local user clients.

That's exactly what we are doing, augmented with some other goodies (tba).
I'm still not in the position of being able to give you some exact numbers, but we're quite confident that it will work quite well.

Thanks.
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: Dwarden on April 28, 2016, 11:40:12 AM
... reply about installer failure moved to https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=185960.0
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: Asyn on April 28, 2016, 11:44:05 AM
As the beta is a final now, I suggest to continue here: https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=185928.0
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: RejZoR on April 28, 2016, 12:00:49 PM
Hi everyone,

After much reflection, we have decided to pull the NG technology from the client-side Avast for the being. The technology has a great potential, and it's delivering great results in our cloud-based systems - but these run in a fully controlled environment, which is much different from making it work on a myriad of Windows/PC configurations that are out there...

With that said, we have some bigger announcements to be made regarding NG and the whole engine, but I don't want to do that just now as this time, we really want to be sure there are real results that you can actually see and verify for yourself before we make any bold announcements...

The only thing I would say for now is that the whole team has been working theirs butts off to make a real difference...

Thanks
Vlk

Wouldn't a reverse NG make more sense? Analysis done server side would pose a bigger bandwidth and processing power challenge, but would also eliminate client side problems people have with NG as well as make it even more difficult for bad guys to exploit it since they can't fiddle with it on your servers like they probably still can with local installation. And you can update and modify it at any time since it would be on your servers and not on local user clients.

That's exactly what we are doing, augmented with some other goodies (tba).
I'm still not in the position of being able to give you some exact numbers, but we're quite confident that it will work quite well.

Thanks.

I understand. Looking forward to these new changes.
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: Rompin Raider on April 29, 2016, 12:50:50 AM
It all sounds good...keep it going! 8)
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: Be Secure on May 05, 2016, 01:55:40 PM
Hi everyone,

After much reflection, we have decided to pull the NG technology from the client-side Avast for the being. The technology has a great potential, and it's delivering great results in our cloud-based systems - but these run in a fully controlled environment, which is much different from making it work on a myriad of Windows/PC configurations that are out there...

With that said, we have some bigger announcements to be made regarding NG and the whole engine, but I don't want to do that just now as this time, we really want to be sure there are real results that you can actually see and verify for yourself before we make any bold announcements...

The only thing I would say for now is that the whole team has been working theirs butts off to make a real difference...

Thanks
Vlk
Really a good move to kick out NG/SVM,But don't add it again pls.And pls do something for  the GUI AD it makes Avast! look as a Fake Av and user get confused about their antivirus and pc@Vlk.
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: Alikhan on May 05, 2016, 02:53:22 PM
If NG has been disabled, why is the process AvastVirtualBox Interface running in memory?
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: -Malware- on May 05, 2016, 03:36:31 PM
Without NG, DeepScreen is useless.
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: Be Secure on May 05, 2016, 03:45:21 PM
Without NG, DeepScreen is useless.
No this information is wrong it is not useless at all.I am using it without NG for a long time,it profromed good not too bad.
Title: Re: NEW Beta version released - 2016.11.2.2262
Post by: Lord_Ami on May 05, 2016, 05:06:42 PM
Without NG, DeepScreen is useless.

I can't agree. It's not that useless - still detects some stuff. Of course it's not as good, but still decent enough that it shouldn't be disabled. I'm 99% sure statistics would agree with me :)