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Title: AVAST Free Killing Disk Space
Post by: REDACTED on June 29, 2016, 09:26:25 PM
The latest version of Avast Antivirus Free is creating huge temp files and filling up my primary disk.  Occasionally the temp files are automatically deleted but more often than not I end up with zero disk space.  This problem surfaced after the most recent program update.


The temp path is 'c:\windows\temp\_avast_' and the file names are in the format 'ws0000XXXXX.tmp' where 'XXXXX' are random alphanumeric characters.
Title: Re: AVAST Free Killing Disk Space
Post by: RejZoR on June 29, 2016, 09:29:31 PM
Hm, this is avast's temporal scan folder. Stuff avast scans often gets unpacked there. Are you doing anything peculiar on your system that might trigger this?
Title: Re: AVAST Free Killing Disk Space
Post by: REDACTED on June 29, 2016, 09:38:36 PM
I'm not sure if it's of any consequence but I'm running Windows 10 Pro.  Nothing else has changed since the last Avast update and the workstation is idle when this occurs.  I used Windows Resource Monitor and Sysinternals Process Monitor to identify the offending process and files.
Title: Re: AVAST Free Killing Disk Space
Post by: DavidR on June 29, 2016, 09:54:39 PM
Hm, this is avast's temporal scan folder. Stuff avast scans often gets unpacked there. Are you doing anything peculiar on your system that might trigger this?

@  dcsang
As RejZoR, this folder is where avast unpacks or moves a copy of a file or files that it is going to scan. On successful completion of the scan these temporary files should be removed by avast.

The most common reason for files remaining in the _avast_ folder is having another resident AV or anti-malware program that is effectively blocking avast from scanning and removing the files on completion. This is what RejZoR is getting on about.
Title: Re: AVAST Free Killing Disk Space
Post by: RejZoR on June 29, 2016, 10:00:35 PM
With "peculiar" I meant usage of multiple security products, compiling of binaries (for games or apps), other stuff that's not exactly common for average users, that kind of things. Because in normal conditions, these temporal files should get automatically removed after they are successfully scanned.
Title: Re: AVAST Free Killing Disk Space
Post by: REDACTED on June 29, 2016, 10:18:19 PM
DavidR & RejZoR, thank you for the clarification.  I have been using Avast and Malwarebytes for quite some time now and this is the first time I encountered such an issue.  There was no update to the latter so I am inclined to believe that something in the latest Avast release is intolerant of my environment.  I don't like to do this, for obvious reasons, but is there a way to downgrade the program version?
Title: Re: AVAST Free Killing Disk Space
Post by: DavidR on June 29, 2016, 11:46:12 PM
Assuming that you are using the premium (resident) version of MBAM.

Try adding the C:\WINDOWS\Temp\_avast_ folder to the MBAM exclusions.
Title: Re: AVAST Free Killing Disk Space
Post by: REDACTED on July 01, 2016, 05:41:29 PM
Your suggestion appeared promising for a while but I'm currently down from 100GB to 1GB.  I really like Avast but it's not practical to restart my workstation every few hours for the purpose of freeing disk space.  I appreciate the suggestions and feedback received here.  I'll give it another try after the next program update.
Title: Re: AVAST Free Killing Disk Space
Post by: Eddy on July 01, 2016, 05:52:34 PM
If you have the real-time protection of MBam enabled, disable it and see if it makes a difference.
Title: Re: AVAST Free Killing Disk Space
Post by: WhataMack on July 14, 2016, 11:00:59 PM
Wanted to add to the thread that I'm seeing the same problem.  There are two differences in my situation as compared to the OP's system:
I've read elsewhere that Mbam might cause this to happen, so I've turned Mbam off a few days ago and no longer have it starting with Windows, but the problem persists.  So, I don't think Mbam is the reason for me.  I'm also not running anything peculiar such as RejZoR mentioned above.  The issue with the disk-filling Avast file has been happening every night for the past week.

I also have Outlook 2007 always running.  When I try to permanently delete the huge temp file, I've only been able to do so by first closing Outlook 2007 and then ending the "OUTLOOK.EXE *32" process.  Once I've done both, I can delete the file.

I also did an Avast boot-time scan yesterday, but had the same disk-full problem this morning.  I never did see any report from Avast after the scan; my system just wound up booting into Windows as it normally does.

So, does anyone have suggestions about next steps?  Thanks in advance for any help.
Title: Re: AVAST Free Killing Disk Space
Post by: Eddy on July 15, 2016, 07:37:38 AM
WhataMack,

As long as Outlook keeps the file open, avast can't delete it.
One option is (as you said) closing Outlook after which the file can be deleted.
Another option is to delete all temporary files at boot-time.
Title: Re: AVAST Free Killing Disk Space
Post by: WhataMack on July 15, 2016, 02:24:03 PM
I made some changes last night before my nightly Avast scan, and didn't see the disk-filling problem this morning.  Along with the exclusions I already had set up, which hadn't prevented the problem:

I also added:
This last addition seems to have been the one that prevented the disk-filling problem. I also kept Outlook 2007 running, just to keep the testing variables down to a minimum.

So, that seems like at least one solution.  However, I'm not sure if excluding everything in that last directory is really a smart thing to do, from a scanning/security perspective.  Can anyone comment on that?  Thanks again for your help.
Title: Re: AVAST Free Killing Disk Space
Post by: davexnet on July 15, 2016, 05:29:27 PM
re: c:\users
You're suspicions are right, it's a dumb thing to do.  many programs can and do execute form in there,
including the system temp folder and application specific directories.  The temp folder is likely to be the first place
an infection could be.
Title: Re: AVAST Free Killing Disk Space
Post by: WhataMack on July 15, 2016, 07:05:02 PM
OK, thanks for that advice.  I'll remove the C:\Users\* exclusion and report back after tonight's scan.
Title: Re: AVAST Free Killing Disk Space
Post by: WhataMack on July 16, 2016, 05:19:14 PM
Well, here's something interesting.  Yesterday afternoon, not long after I posted the reply above, I noticed the disk was full again.  The only way to delete the file, which was in the same directory as listed above, was to close Outlook 2007 and end the "OUTLOOK.EXE * 32" process as I did before.  Also, I didn't have Outlook running last night and the Avast scan seemed to finish correctly, and didn't create the disk-filling temp file.

So, it really seems like Outlook is some type of culprit in this situation.  I have no idea why, but if anyone has other suggestions (besides uninstalling Outlook) to deal with this?  Thanks again.
Title: Re: AVAST Free Killing Disk Space
Post by: Eddy on July 16, 2016, 05:20:49 PM
Use online mail.
Title: Re: AVAST Free Killing Disk Space
Post by: WhataMack on July 16, 2016, 07:55:45 PM
Hmm, well, seeing as how all my calendar, contacts and tasks are also stored in Outlook I was hoping to keep using it and Avast at the same time.  It'll be easier to uninstall and reinstall Avast, I'd say, as an easier test first.
Title: Re: AVAST Free Killing Disk Space
Post by: REDACTED on July 19, 2016, 05:35:00 PM
I'm in the Me Too column - I had 25GB free space yesterday, and by the end of the day I had only a few megabytes free.  CRAZY!  Closing Outlook didn't help (couldn't find Outlook32 process running.)  Rebooting reclaimed my disk space.

This is a SERIOUS BUG!  I've been running Avast free for many months without problem.  Now I'm about to uninstall.
Title: Re: AVAST Free Killing Disk Space
Post by: WhataMack on July 19, 2016, 06:38:54 PM
Just an update: I uninstalled Avast and started using Bitdefender instead just to see what would happen.  So far, the disk space problem hasn't returned.
Title: Re: AVAST Free Killing Disk Space
Post by: bob3160 on July 20, 2016, 11:15:10 PM
Reported to Avast. Let's see if they have a comment or a fix.
Title: Re: AVAST Free Killing Disk Space
Post by: REDACTED on July 25, 2016, 05:52:34 PM
I wasn't able to resolve this issue either and temporarily uninstalled.  For the record, I am not using Outlook and MBAM was disabled but the problem persisted.  I will try again after the next product update.
Title: Re: AVAST Free Killing Disk Space
Post by: REDACTED on July 28, 2016, 03:40:06 AM
Same Issue here, started a week or so ago after an update.

Didn't realize until I received a warning about critically low disk space. System typically has almost 100GB Free!!!!

When I started digging found a 39GB and 59GB (ws00000xxx.tmp) file in C:\Windows\temp\_avast_\  :o

Mine would not delete until I shut down avast but I was able to get rid of them. The next day, same thing. Have Uninstalled and reinstalled avast 3X and deleted avast folders in C:\ProgramData prior to reinstall just to test. Every time same result, giant files are created in the \temp\_avast_  folder.

Additional notes:
Not using any alternate antivirus (or Malwarebytes)
No Drastic system changes (that I can think of) 
Using Outlook2013 (although I don't think this is related)

The files are definitely related to one of avasts scans as I can watch them disappear if I disable avast shields control.

Taskbar> right click avast icon> Avast shields control>Disable permanently The files will go away immediately,
I can then re enable all shields but after a while the tmp files will come back and fill my hard drive to the brim within a day of so if left unchecked.

This is a serious issue. I have been an avast user for about 6 yrs and have never encountered something like this. If they don't fix it soon I may have to look for something else.
Title: Re: AVAST Free Killing Disk Space
Post by: WhataMack on July 28, 2016, 02:13:24 PM
@bob3160, thanks for reporting this to the Avast team.  Have you heard anything back from them at this point?
Title: Re: AVAST Free Killing Disk Space
Post by: DavidR on July 28, 2016, 02:49:52 PM
@bob3160, thanks for reporting this to the Avast team.  Have you heard anything back from them at this point?

Whilst Bob has reported it, he doesn't get a direct reply, the idea is to bring it to the attention of avast and for them to respond in the topic. This may take a little time to investigate and if it can be replicated, work on a fix.
Title: Re: AVAST Free Killing Disk Space
Post by: Milos on July 28, 2016, 03:12:51 PM
Hello,
thanks for the report we are trying to reproduce the issue.

Milos
Title: Re: AVAST Free Killing Disk Space
Post by: REDACTED on July 30, 2016, 03:46:42 PM
Update with some additional information.

After my last post I disabled all shields to remove the Temp files as I had done in the past. I re-enabled and continued to monitor. Every time I checked, the .tmp files were not apparent in /Window/Temp/_avast_/ and free disk space was staying where it should.

As a test, I started a full system scan and watched the .tmp file populate. The file grew throughout the scan to about 1.5GB. What is strange is after the scan finished the file remained in the folder and continued to grow.

I thought for a minute that the issue was resolved but maybe it just had not created the file in the past couple days?  It seems that once it is created it just grows and grows.

I see there was an avast update on the 28th so maybe I'll give that a go but apparently this doesn't sound like a known issue.
Title: Re: AVAST Free Killing Disk Space
Post by: novakja on August 01, 2016, 12:40:21 PM
Hello everyone,
thak you for reporting the issue, we are currently trying to reproduce it (so far without any success). It would be great, if you could send us Support Package (https://www.avast.com/faq.php?article=AVKB33) (contains all important logs) after running Avast with debug logging enabled (go to Settings - General - Maintenance - check "Enable debug logging").

Thank you!
Title: Re: AVAST Free Killing Disk Space
Post by: REDACTED on November 18, 2016, 06:09:10 PM
I have had the same problem for 2 days now.
I use Auslogics Defrag all the time, but I had also installed their free BoostSpeed 9, Driver Updater and some Hunter program.
I suspect uninstalling these programs will stop the problem, but I will find out tomorrow.