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Consumer Products => Avast Free Antivirus / Premium Security (legacy Pro Antivirus, Internet Security, Premier) => Topic started by: trevlac5 on December 05, 2003, 07:50:06 PM
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I have multiple computers and users at a not-for-profit institution.
Is avast! 4 Home a solution for each of them?
I want to know if this environment is considered "non-commercial".
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I have multiple computers and users at a not-for-profit institution.
Is avast! 4 Home a solution for each of them?
I want to know if this environment is considered "non-commercial".
I suppose yes but you must wait for the avast! team answer...
What I can tell you is that if the user has more than one computer AT HOME he/she does not have to register each computer of different members of the family ;)
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That's just what I've been wrestling with so far.
I don't want to misinterpret the meaning of "non-commercial", as it applies to avast! 4 Home, or treat its Free nature with contempt.
I have used many different AV apps (free and purchased) and this is the one that I prefer.
Thanks for your insight!
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trevlac,
It is very clear in the registration process that AVAST is free for HOME and NON-COMMERCIAL usage.
As far as I know from many legal interpretations and "Terms" agreements, a non-profit organization, although commercially formed, is not considered a "commercial enterprise" which is typically profit based.
Unless the AVAST team states otherwise, I would say this:
This software is released as FREEWARE, but it may not be sold or be included in a product or package which intends to receive benefits through the inclusion of this software. The AVAST HOME files must remain unmodified, unchanged, and cannot be "broken down" and then used in whole or in part of "any other software" without specific agreement with Alwil/Avast.
Once you register as a home user, you can without reservation, use Avast Home on more than one computer that YOU own. Any other user on YOUR computer is fine. But, any user with their own computer even if in the same household should register for their own copy.
This keeps things on the up and up.
I hate this legal mumbo jumbo.
techie ;D
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I hate this legal mumbo jumbo.
you are not alone ;D
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Well said! And hopefully accurate.
Concerning the legal mumbo jumbo: I'm fine with it in this situation where ALWIL distributes the Free version to my advantage - it's the purchased progs (THAT I OWN) with the same mumbo jumbo legal stuff that makes me ill.
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trev,
Agreed. But in today's environment with piracy all about us, you can't blame the vendors for trying to cover themselves.
Most of us do not read the Legal-ize before we check the Accept box.
My advice is that you should!
Look what is happening to those that were downloading music!
Take Care,
techie
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trevlac,
...Once you register as a home user, you can without reservation, use Avast Home on more than one computer that YOU own. Any other user on YOUR computer is fine. But, any user with their own computer even if in the same household should register for their own copy.
This keeps things on the up and up.
I hate this legal mumbo jumbo.
techie ;D
I suppose I need to take a crash course in responding to replies.
I obviously should have directed the former reply to techie101.
Thanks for your patience while I'm being educated.
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trev,
Sometimes I get it right and sometimes not. hahaha
I rely on my counterparts.....Technical and Mac to jump in now and then.
Ok, so I'm being gracious. ;D
On this forum, you will learn that any one of us may hold the answer!
techie ;)
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I believe that this post (http://www.avast.com/forum/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=995;start=msg5299#msg5299) may give an answer to the original question...
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With regard to the mumbo-jumbo of users' agreements, I've always loved the tongue-in-cheek approach taken by MindWorkshop/Alchemy for their Graphics Workshop and other products. Nearly every paragraph ends with "(the lawyers made us say that)".
And if (extremely unlikely, unless you're heavily distributing completed works) they decide you're in volation of the shareware agreement, the heck with lawyers. They threaten to dispatch winged demons of the night to wreak havoc on your computer and your person. :D
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OUCH no non-profit orgs either :'(
I rely on my counterparts.....Technical and Mac to jump in now and then.
well said! but dont forget the ALWIL team too ;D
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I believe that this post (http://www.avast.com/forum/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=995;start=msg5299#msg5299) may give an answer to the original question...
Sure does.
That's not what I wanted to hear...but it's the complete and final answer that I was searching for.
I will still continue to use avast! 4 Home at HOME, but now I'll have to consider the cost of registering it for the business or go another route.
Any thoughts? My environment is a 30 user peer-to-peer - I know it's a few too many users but it's cheap and it works according to our needs.
FYI, I use the network mainly to backup all the PCs to a server.
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avast pro could work nicely about $630 for 30 computers ( i am terrible at math PLEASE double check this)
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trev,
I stand corrected. Sorry, my interpretation was in error.
I guess Avast looks at Non-profit as a business.
But at least I got them to challenge the explanation I gave, so it accomplished what you wanted.
You got your answer. Yes!
Good luck,
techie
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Sure does.
That's not what I wanted to hear...but it's the complete and final answer that I was searching for.
I will still continue to use avast! 4 Home at HOME, but now I'll have to consider the cost of registering it for the business or go another route.
You might also take the advice I gave here (http://www.avast.com/forum/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=943;start=msg5025#msg5025) (I mean about the discount) ;)
Pavel
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I collected some Pavel's information in the quoted forums:
Avast licensing scheme there are two conditions which qualify the user for free non-limited usage of our avast! 4 Home. The rules are clear: home AND non-commercial use
1) it must be the home usage - so any organisations (non-profit or commercial) are disqualified.
2) there should not be any commercial activity done on the computer which is to be protected by avast!,
i.e., if you use it to make some profit, you also do not qualify for avast! Home usage, even on the home computer.
So both conditions should be met for free program!
Anyway, you can try to send the e-mail to sales@avast.com and ask discounts there... ;)
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Technical,
Your effort is appreciated. I finally found the criteria on the Alwil site under Product information/Avast4.
It really does not explain what their definition of commercial use really is, however the condition that it must be for "home" use knocks everything else out. I can understand their view.
Like I said, I hate the legalize and that is why I always comply with the terms of license. When in doubt, I purchase the commercial version as I have with Avast Pro and other such software.
Lastly, the Avast team puts a large amount of time into giving all of us a product that we can rely on, and abuse of the "free" priviledge can be understood.
Again, sorry for my misinterpretation.
techie
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Would it be fair to say that this interpretation is the universal interpretation for "FREE FOR HOME USE ONLY" progs?
Also, let me be clear on this: I am not griping over the requirement to purchase this product - it is worth the price. I am mearly discriminating between all the products that have impressed me thus far. If there are 2 products that have basically the same features and effectiveness, but one of them is FREE, then I would tend to pick the FREE one.
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Would it be fair to say that this interpretation is the universal interpretation for "FREE FOR HOME USE ONLY" progs?
trev,
I wish I could say without reservation that it would always be the case. As you worded it in your post, I would say yes, but the only way to ever be sure is to ask the vendor for a clarrification.
As we saw here with this thread......interpretation based upon "other" vendors Terms of License did not apply to Avast and Non-profit organizations.
See what I mean!
techie