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Title: Opera 9 Technology Preview 2
Post by: RejZoR on February 08, 2006, 11:14:34 AM
So it's time to push Firefox and Flock away and show the (old ;) ) newcomer.
It's the Opera 9 series! Yes you are right, it's still technology preview which means it may still contain bugs or glitches but in general it's working without any problems for me. And i must admit it it's the best browser i have seen to date.
It's an excellent all in one package for perfect internet experience.

New and highlighted stuff in Opera 9:
- Very fast Presto engine that finally works corectly with all pages that i visit.
- Fully resumable downloader
- Integrated e-mail client
- Intergarted IRC client (which is safer than mIRC because it doesn't support scripts)
- Integrated Bittorrent client (which is ultra fast from user reports)
- Out of the box tabbed browsing and gestures
- New "Blocked Content" feature to block annoying ad banners and other annoying content
- Full support for GMail including Atom feeds for it
- New support for extensionable objects called "Widgets" to add extra functionality to Opera
- Enhanced popup blocking and per page compatibility settings
- Still maintaining very small download size (~3MB)
- Plus much more stuff!

Download:
http://labs.opera.com

(http://promote.opera.com/small/opera94x15.gif)
Title: Re: Opera 9 Technology Preview 2
Post by: TedNelly on February 08, 2006, 12:33:20 PM
Yep very nice browser worth a try (http://img26.exs.cx/img26/2245/thumbsup8de.gif)
Title: Re: Opera 9 Technology Preview 2
Post by: szc on February 08, 2006, 02:34:02 PM
It's really time to "put" those two aside... I mean, what's happening with development of Flock ? Long time nothing new, nothing promissing that it will go gold in some recent future. Million bucks for development, and they are slow like snails...

I may actually finally try Opera...  ::)
Title: Re: Opera 9 Technology Preview 2
Post by: RejZoR on February 08, 2006, 02:54:19 PM
I think you will even like Opera 9. It's really sweet compared to Opera 8.5 or even Firefox ;D I already packed my Firefox and am now using this latest Opera 9 release. No bugs so far whih is kinda impressive for developement build :)
Title: Re: Opera 9 Technology Preview 2
Post by: bob3160 on February 08, 2006, 03:15:16 PM
"SWEET" is a good discription and it's only a Techno. Preview.
Microsoft, save your money,
I think I've found a honey. ;D ;D
This makes the latest version of IE look sick.
Of course this is only my personal opinion. :)
(By the way, their built in spell checker is also a "sweet" thing.)
Title: Re: Opera 9 Technology Preview 2
Post by: szc on February 08, 2006, 03:18:04 PM
UNBELIEVABLE !!!!!!

I LOVE IT !!!!

Sorry for the capital letters guys, I couldn't resist !

Voice controled browsing ? Oh my God... so many features... Flash works perfectly, not a single glitch. Every single page I ever created works as a charm ! Pure diamond !

Thanks RejZoR !!!
Title: Re: Opera 9 Technology Preview 2
Post by: DavidR on February 08, 2006, 03:41:11 PM
I will certainly take a look at the new preview, roll on more Widgets. That is the one thing about firefox, its extensions that make it so powerful and there are some I would find hard to live without: BBCodeXtra, Cookie Culler, Translate, to name a few.

Download size for Windows is now showing 4MB, still a little less than Firefox's 5MB and I shudder to think what IE7's download size is. Just on half way (damn dial-up) through now.
Title: Re: Opera 9 Technology Preview 2
Post by: RejZoR on February 08, 2006, 04:32:18 PM
Ok, BBCode isn't there but most of forums have own buttons anyway which work just fine. Translate IS included by default in Opera, as well as other stuff for selected text.
Cookie control is also there. That Cookie Culler wsn't anything special to me though...
Title: Re: Opera 9 Technology Preview 2
Post by: DavidR on February 08, 2006, 04:53:35 PM
Well I'm playing with it now and it feels strange, some things are missing or I can't find right now, so it will take a little getting used to.

I found the Translate bit, would be handy if it opened in a new tab though. I tend to use the quick reply window to reply, so BBCode is very useful in those instances. It took some time trying to find how to refresh a page only to find it was a right click option as well.

Is there an off-line help file (perhaps not with a preview version), the only thing I found was the on-line version.

I liked the way it copied the current default browsers bookmarks (many just copy IE bookmarks), I thought I might have to import them form firefox.
Title: Re: Opera 9 Technology Preview 2
Post by: RejZoR on February 08, 2006, 04:57:02 PM
Yeah, some used to it time is normal for new stuff.
I type BBCode by hand in quick replys, though i'm seeing more and more forums that even have basic commands even for Quick reply.
It's almost faster than using that menu, at least for me. But that depends on user anyway...
Title: Re: Opera 9 Technology Preview 2
Post by: CharleyO on February 08, 2006, 04:59:45 PM
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The download for IE7 Beta2 was 11.2 MB ... a bit large, comparatively speaking.    ::)


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Title: Re: Opera 9 Technology Preview 2
Post by: FreewheelinFrank on February 08, 2006, 05:13:43 PM
Looks nice and seems easy to use, but ...

Memory usage is about the same as Firefox - about 30k with two tabs open - but Opera is peaking at 100% CPU usage and causing my laptop fan to blow hard whenever I refresh the pages frequently. Firefox is not making such a meal of the same action with the fan staying quiet.

Hey! I like the preview function when you hover on a tab. Definitely cool.
Title: Re: Opera 9 Technology Preview 2
Post by: SpeedyPC on February 08, 2006, 10:09:33 PM
I've been using Opera for almost 2 years and I really enjoy it, when I update from 8.5 to 9 when I see it. It like WOW! Opera the Holy Grail.

I couldn't help myself saying goodbye Microsoft IE drop dead ;D! BUT I still used the window update only in IE and why can't Opera add a plug-in file for Window Update.
Title: Re: Opera 9 Technology Preview 2
Post by: Staind on February 08, 2006, 10:14:26 PM
I'm always surprised that IE hasn't tried to buy out Opera or Mozilla for awhile now - is it out of pride?
Title: Re: Opera 9 Technology Preview 2
Post by: SpeedyPC on February 08, 2006, 10:16:19 PM
I'm always surprised that IE hasn't tried to buy out Opera or Mozilla for awhile now - is it out of pride?

No wonder IE STINKS so bad for too long :P
Title: Re: Opera 9 Technology Preview 2
Post by: szc on February 08, 2006, 10:41:21 PM
Well, spitting all over IE and Microsoft is always the easiest way... This wasn't really why RejZoR started this thread.

Some people like it, some don't... as simple as that. If you like it, use it.. if don't, find something else out there. There is a plenty of choices just waiting for you, and best of all everyone is free to make his choice. Microsoft is not going to kill anyone if he switches to some other browser.
Title: Re: Opera 9 Technology Preview 2
Post by: neal62 on February 08, 2006, 11:43:25 PM
Well, I have downloaded Opera 9 and so far I like it. Very impressive. Appreciate hearing about it being available.  :)
Title: Re: Opera 9 Technology Preview 2
Post by: DavidR on February 09, 2006, 12:23:48 AM
I'm afraid I have just uninstalled it, I liked some of the features but the stuff I didn't like was a deal breaker, so I continue with firefox and Maxthon as secondary.
Title: Re: Opera 9 Technology Preview 2
Post by: bob3160 on February 09, 2006, 12:52:33 AM
Quote
but the stuff I didn't like was a deal breaker
???  ???  ???  ???
I'm still using GreenBrowser because the tabs in Opera arent flexible for my needs.
Title: Re: Opera 9 Technology Preview 2
Post by: DavidR on February 09, 2006, 01:34:26 AM
That Bob, was one of them, I couldn't get them working to my liking, nor was it as configurable, and I also didn't want to have the browser cache in the C drive Doc & Settings.

Edit: at least I couldn't find a way to change the cache location only the size.
Title: Re: Opera 9 Technology Preview 2
Post by: Staind on February 09, 2006, 02:20:34 AM
Is it possible to move the cache folder location?  I wouldn't like that either.
Title: Re: Opera 9 Technology Preview 2
Post by: SpeedyPC on February 09, 2006, 02:47:26 AM
That Bob, was one of them, I couldn't get them working to my liking, nor was it as configurable, and I also didn't want to have the browser cache in the C drive Doc & Settings.

Edit: at least I couldn't find a way to change the cache location only the size.

David in the Opera settings you can automatically set Opera to delete cookies and delete browser cache when you close down Opera when finished.

And you can set Opera keep you favorite cookies and your website address, and automatically delete the browser cache when you close down Opera when finished.

There is an Opera setting to increase the browser cache files size, cause I have on my another version 8.51, but have haven't check the version 9 Opera settings yet.

Keep in mind Opera v9.0 is ONLY for beta testing is not final yet the version 8.51 is still the current final version.
Title: Re: Opera 9 Technology Preview 2
Post by: DavidR on February 09, 2006, 03:05:05 AM
Location, location, location. That was the issue, not being able to keep the cache on a separate partition. With dial-up I don't want to kill the browser cache or cookies on exit, that just slows browsing for me.

The browser size wasn't an issue (I saw the resize cache and memory usage options), I have lots of space on both partitions on my primary HDD and huge amounts on my secondary HDD. I just didn't want in on my C drive.

I'm well aware that it is still beta but can you move the location of the cache in 8.51 if not I doubt that that will be an option in the final 9.0 as i isn't mentioned in the whats new (but that is a very small detail).

Unfortunately, it was a combination of things not just this that made me uninstall it.
Title: Re: Opera 9 Technology Preview 2
Post by: bob3160 on February 09, 2006, 04:44:17 AM
SpeedyPC
I didn't see you mention anything about tab options.  That was one of my objections.
Are there any similar to what I currently have?
Title: Re: Opera 9 Technology Preview 2
Post by: BunkFace on February 09, 2006, 05:41:07 AM
Location, location, location. That was the issue, not being able to keep the cache on a separate partition. With dial-up I don't want to kill the browser cache or cookies on exit, that just slows browsing for me.

The browser size wasn't an issue (I saw the resize cache and memory usage options), I have lots of space on both partitions on my primary HDD and huge amounts on my secondary HDD. I just didn't want in on my C drive.

I'm well aware that it is still beta but can you move the location of the cache in 8.51 if not I doubt that that will be an option in the final 9.0 as i isn't mentioned in the whats new (but that is a very small detail).

Unfortunately, it was a combination of things not just this that made me uninstall it.

From this URL: http://www.opera.com/support/search/supsearch.dml?index=340

Opera Knowledge Base

Changing the location of Opera's cache

Platform: All Windows versions

It is possible to change the location of Opera's cache, although this is not recommended unless you know what you are doing.
Go to Help > About Opera and find the location of your opera6.ini file.
Close Opera.
Open opera6.ini in a text editor.
Under [User Prefs], add the entry "Cache Directory4=" and enter the path.

Example:

[User Prefs]
Cache Directory4=H:\Cache

(I found this after searching in the Opera forums, if you need more help post your question there)
Title: Re: Opera 9 Technology Preview 2
Post by: SpeedyPC on February 09, 2006, 07:04:51 AM
Quote
but the stuff I didn't like was a deal breaker
???  ???  ???  ???
I'm still using GreenBrowser because the tabs in Opera aren't flexible for my needs.

Bob I saw your last post the picture you put up, I don't fully understand what you are trying to do because you said tabs in Opera aren't flexible for my needs can you explain more details what you want.

Bob did you know Opera has a forum website to discuss about Opera for people who are having problems, so check out the forum website I'm at work so I cannot compare my tab setting to your to confirmed error settings.

http://my.opera.com/community/forums/
Title: Re: Opera 9 Technology Preview 2
Post by: RejZoR on February 09, 2006, 12:20:55 PM
You want more confugurability?
Type "opera:config" (without quotes) in URL field and press ENTER.
Voila :P
Title: Re: Opera 9 Technology Preview 2
Post by: bob3160 on February 09, 2006, 04:43:22 PM
Thanks RejZoR
Enough configuration options to choke a horse but nothing on tabs....
I'm not looking for much but when I open a link, I want it in it's own tab.
I hate back arrows. ;D
Title: Re: Opera 9 Technology Preview 2
Post by: RejZoR on February 09, 2006, 05:00:02 PM
Tools\Preferences\Browsing

Uncheck reuse current tab.

I haven't tried but as far as i know it should open new tabs for each new opened element.
Title: Re: Opera 9 Technology Preview 2
Post by: CharleyO on February 09, 2006, 08:21:28 PM
***

I hate back arrows, too ... hence, my 5 button cordless infared mouse!    ;)


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Title: Re: Opera 9 Technology Preview 2
Post by: bob3160 on February 09, 2006, 08:42:27 PM
Thanks Again RejZoR
Mystery solved:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/bob3160/Avast%20Forum/Tabs.png)
Here are my settings:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/bob3160/Avast%20Forum/TabPref.png)

 :)  ;) :)
Title: Re: Opera 9 Technology Preview 2
Post by: RejZoR on February 10, 2006, 03:18:46 PM
Why do you all hate back arrows? Never heard for mouse gestures?
I hate to many tabs...

Just hold Right mouse button and click left one for as far as you want to go back. Ultra fast feature for Backward coommand. Works the same for forward, just with holding left button and clicking right one...
Title: Re: Opera 9 Technology Preview 2
Post by: bob3160 on February 10, 2006, 04:37:49 PM
Why do you all hate back arrows? Never heard for mouse gestures?
I hate to many tabs...

Just hold Right mouse button and click left one for as far as you want to go back. Ultra fast feature for Backward coommand. Works the same for forward, just with holding left button and clicking right one...
I guess this is another one of those items that belongs in the "Personal Preferences" catagory. :)
Title: Re: Opera 9 Technology Preview 2
Post by: Staind on February 11, 2006, 12:21:28 AM
Alt + S does not appear to work on forums in Opera?