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Title: Eugene Kaspersky : That’s It. I’ve Had Enough!
Post by: Rednose on November 10, 2016, 04:59:55 PM
Eugene Kaspersky about Microsoft and Windows 10, and how bad they treat independent software developers :

https://eugene.kaspersky.com/2016/11/10/thats-it-ive-had-enough

Greetz, Red.
Title: Re: Eugene Kaspersky : That’s It. I’ve Had Enough!
Post by: Asyn on November 11, 2016, 07:06:24 AM
Very interesting read, thanks Red.
I also think MS is heading in the wrong direction.

Cheers,
Asyn
Title: Re: Eugene Kaspersky : That’s It. I’ve Had Enough!
Post by: Secondmineboy on November 11, 2016, 12:45:24 PM
Very interesting read, thanks Red.
I also think MS is heading in the wrong direction.

Cheers,
Asyn

Definitely. Im already thinking of stepping away from MS
Title: Re: Eugene Kaspersky : That’s It. I’ve Had Enough!
Post by: !Donovan on November 11, 2016, 12:53:45 PM
Hey Rednose,

Thanks for the read. I think we can all agree that after Windows 7 Microsoft started pushing its products more than ever before.

Donovan
Title: Re: Eugene Kaspersky : That’s It. I’ve Had Enough!
Post by: polonus on November 11, 2016, 12:59:42 PM
Hi Asyn,

See how the Mega Big are protecting their monopolistic strangle-hold on the market.

Slowly working towards a Commercial Fourth Reich platform.

No room for innovation, more of the same money-grabbing data-slurping, ad-launching
... not very good and not extremely bad mediocracy.

Great times for conformists.

Not good for end-user protection, but.... it never has been a better time for the stakeholders.

Give you the sad feeling there will never be better times ahead for the individual and the creative.

No nice digital  vibrations hanging in the air alas.

Rather working like one big jamming device...

polonus

Title: Re: Eugene Kaspersky : That’s It. I’ve Had Enough!
Post by: CraigB on November 11, 2016, 01:07:23 PM
Windows 10 is a brilliant system imo, I guess Kaspersky is feeling the pinch in the drop of their market share due to Windows providing adequate base protection :)

Wasn't it Kaspersky that was scrambling years ago telling everyone that free AV's were not good enough to protect you  ::)
Title: Re: Eugene Kaspersky : That’s It. I’ve Had Enough!
Post by: Eddy on November 11, 2016, 01:38:00 PM
W10 a brilliant system?

It could have been if it wasn't for the fact that it has a huge amount of bugs/problems.
Title: Re: Eugene Kaspersky : That’s It. I’ve Had Enough!
Post by: CraigB on November 11, 2016, 01:53:56 PM
W10 a brilliant system?

It could have been if it wasn't for the fact that it has a huge amount of bugs/problems.
I've got Win10 on 5 systems here and a bunch of others for family and friends and I can say there isn't a bug or problem on any of them :)
Title: Re: Eugene Kaspersky : That’s It. I’ve Had Enough!
Post by: Eddy on November 11, 2016, 02:02:32 PM
The bugs are there, you just haven't experienced one (yet).
Title: Re: Eugene Kaspersky : That’s It. I’ve Had Enough!
Post by: CraigB on November 11, 2016, 02:14:50 PM
The bugs are there, you just haven't experienced one (yet).
Nope, haven't experienced any in at least the last year or more though I'm rather proficient in making sure the systems are running the latest drivers for all hardware and I don't use outdated software.
Title: Re: Eugene Kaspersky : That’s It. I’ve Had Enough!
Post by: Asyn on November 12, 2016, 07:22:57 AM
See how the Mega Big are protecting their monopolistic strangle-hold on the market.
Slowly working towards a Commercial Fourth Reich platform.
No room for innovation, more of the same money-grabbing data-slurping, ad-launching
... not very good and not extremely bad mediocracy.
Great times for conformists.
Not good for end-user protection, but.... it never has been a better time for the stakeholders.
Give you the sad feeling there will never be better times ahead for the individual and the creative.
Well said Damian.
Title: Re: Eugene Kaspersky : That’s It. I’ve Had Enough!
Post by: abruptum on November 12, 2016, 12:51:03 PM
Russia Starts Microsoft Antivirus Investigation After Kaspersky Complaint

  http://news.softpedia.com/news/russia-starts-microsoft-antivirus-investigation-after-kaspersky-complaint-510163.shtml
Title: Re: Eugene Kaspersky : That’s It. I’ve Had Enough!
Post by: polonus on November 12, 2016, 01:07:37 PM
Hi abruptum,

Their 'omnipotence' just seems a bridge too far now.
You cannot rule the world forever and a day,
as many institutions have  found out earlier in history.

But actually I am longing back to the days that Microsoft still was a great program,
and it had it's  full Dos-support
and you could open up the command prompt and tweak it to your likings.

Bad thing youngsters have no reminiscence of that,
so they won't know what they are missing.  :'(

It has become so much harder now for ordinairy people.
So much more came hard-coded into the OS.

Yes complete other times then when I was Microsoft trained on NT4 and the kernel.

polonus
Title: Re: Eugene Kaspersky : That’s It. I’ve Had Enough!
Post by: bob3160 on November 12, 2016, 11:43:28 PM
Sorry Damien, but as far as I'm concerned Windows is still a great OS.
It's also still used by more people than any other.
Right now there is a problem with the last insider preview builds and any one using a third party AV.
I'm sure that will get resolved. Hopefully soon.
Title: Re: Eugene Kaspersky : That’s It. I’ve Had Enough!
Post by: abruptum on November 16, 2016, 05:18:28 PM
Antivirus Firms Unite Against Microsoft Push for Windows Defender in Windows 10

  http://news.softpedia.com/news/antivirus-firms-unite-against-microsoft-push-for-windows-defender-in-windows-10-510259.shtml
Title: Re: Eugene Kaspersky : That’s It. I’ve Had Enough!
Post by: Asyn on November 17, 2016, 06:23:42 AM
Antivirus Firms Unite Against Microsoft Push for Windows Defender in Windows 10
http://news.softpedia.com/news/antivirus-firms-unite-against-microsoft-push-for-windows-defender-in-windows-10-510259.shtml
More here: http://www.securityweek.com/security-firms-allege-microsoft-anti-competitive

PS: Would be interesting to get a statement from Avast..!!
Title: Re: Eugene Kaspersky : That’s It. I’ve Had Enough!
Post by: bob3160 on November 17, 2016, 01:47:41 PM
Antivirus Firms Unite Against Microsoft Push for Windows Defender in Windows 10
http://news.softpedia.com/news/antivirus-firms-unite-against-microsoft-push-for-windows-defender-in-windows-10-510259.shtml (http://news.softpedia.com/news/antivirus-firms-unite-against-microsoft-push-for-windows-defender-in-windows-10-510259.shtml)
More here: http://www.securityweek.com/security-firms-allege-microsoft-anti-competitive (http://www.securityweek.com/security-firms-allege-microsoft-anti-competitive)

PS: Would be interesting to get a statement from Avast..!!
It would be since they are as affected as the rest of the AV's
Right now the only way to use the current Preview Release Builds is to totally remove Avast.
Title: Re: Eugene Kaspersky : That’s It. I’ve Had Enough!
Post by: Vlk on November 17, 2016, 05:37:23 PM
FYI, Avast has been quite involved in this case also, although we don't have any public statements to be made right now and we don't necessarily agree with the tone of Eugene's original blog post.

But we do think that the proposed changes in the next version of Windows 10 are against customer's interests, and pose a danger of decreasing the overall security situation of the Windows ecosystem as a whole.

Thanks
vlk
Title: Re: Eugene Kaspersky : That’s It. I’ve Had Enough!
Post by: bob3160 on November 17, 2016, 10:12:30 PM
FYI, Avast has been quite involved in this case also, although we don't have any public statements to be made right now and we don't necessarily agree with the tone of Eugene's original blog post.

But we do think that the proposed changes in the next version of Windows 10 are against customer's interests, and pose a danger of decreasing the overall security situation of the Windows ecosystem as a whole.

Thanks
vlk
Thanks for the feedback Ondrej,
Can you go into more detail regarding the planned changes and how they effect the overall security ???