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Title: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: Vlk on January 03, 2017, 08:18:38 AM
Hi guys,

I'd like to open a new thread regarding the "skin" of the new Avast.

I have seen various discussions about it scattered around the forum, but it's a bit difficult to get a grasp of it. In general, I understand the feedback tends to be negative, but I'd like to understand whether it's related to the size of the UI, the layout of the navigation, the color scheme, the font, the speed, ... BTW One thing that we focused on improving were the flows, i.e. making the various tasks much more bullet-proof and user-friendly. I think we delivered on that one, but I haven't seen it discussed anywhere.

So, can you please be a bit more specific in your feedback? Besides RejZoR's suggestion on how to reorganize the menu bar, I haven't seen much except for adjectives like "awful", "unprofessional" etc which don't really give much insight at all.

We still have some time to shuffle some things around, although obviously what you see is pretty close to what the final will look like.

Thanks
Vlk
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: Asyn on January 03, 2017, 08:49:56 AM
Hi Ondrej, thanks for asking. Personally, I don't care too much about the design (as long as it works), so I'll leave it to others to comment on it. But, as you also mentioned the speed - it's really really really slow (on XP) compared to build 2280. Some room for improvement...

Cheers,
Asyn
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: RejZoR on January 03, 2017, 09:48:12 AM
Ok, lets start again with updated info based on latest BETA:

As far as sidebar goes, I still stand by my idea:
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=192684.0

Now, to the comments regarding latest BETA (17.1.2282):
THE GOOD
- I absolutely love the new trey icon. Even so much that I've re-enabled the animation. Morphing of the amoeba into sphere and back is just so beautiful and since animation is rather slow, it's not annoying or distracting at all like the whole fast spinning sphere before. I suggest you make animation enabled by default again!
- Progress bar, even though I prefer straight progress bar and the thin one used during installation process looks beautiful, the new circular one looks nice as well.
- Interface design is fluid and feels consistent which is nice, apart from few details I'll talk about below...

THE NOT SO GOOD
The white interface layers however totally clash with beautiful purple top of the interface.
- Custom install panel with all the components is all white and looks totally out of place against nice purple installer
- The ads banner in the main interface is white and it looks horrid on the main interface.
- Same goes for dropdown menus which are white and they stand out from the nice interface like a sore thumb.
- Same for three scans under Protection tab, huge white buttons really don't fit well into interface. And same goes for entire settings menu which is entirely a white menu. I know your schedule is tight with AVG and integration of Software Analyzer, but "Settings" panel really needs a redesign.

- As per my interface re-design on link above, having 3 shields separate from the rest, I'd keep statistics page (Pi button) expanded there at all times and add Software Analyzer in there as well (see Shields_design.png image).

We really need real-time detection history like we have for On-Demand scans. Just having option in trey icon to see last detection is just not enough. Sometimes you want to see entire history when, what and where was something detected. It'll help users as well as avast! team.

- Also, because you separate shields from the on-demand scans, you can redesign the scans a bit as well and get rid of the ugly white layer from the buttons (see Scan_design.png image).

And because in my interface design, Virus Chest is accessible from any menu, you don't need a separate "Virus Chest" button under scans or Shields page.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: Vlk on January 03, 2017, 10:46:36 AM
Thanks RejZoR, good feedback. Just for avoidance of any confusion, by dropdown menus, you mean the main navigation menu / the fact that the whole panel with the items is white?
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: REDACTED on January 03, 2017, 12:11:45 PM
The component settings (customize) should be available through each section or component of the sidebar and integrated in the main interface, not using additional windows.

Right now you have a new windows for the settings, and another one to customize the component plus the av windows, 3 windows. It's not user friendly and it looks like avast is broken in pieces.

And I totally agree with RejZoR post.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: RejZoR on January 03, 2017, 12:16:47 PM
I've decided to innovate a bit and recorded a video with my commentary and direct live display of how things should be, why I like and what I don't like. I think it will be more understandable than the forum post above... :)

The avast! 17 BETA Interface Review & Commentary
https://youtu.be/-zNxU4nuq0E (https://youtu.be/-zNxU4nuq0E)
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: NON on January 03, 2017, 01:01:19 PM
While I mostly agree with RejZoR's comment, I would add a comment about the size of the window.
It should be a bit smaller, especially each shield's setting. It does not fit even with 768 height (see attached image). ::)
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: RejZoR on January 03, 2017, 01:11:08 PM
Yes, forgot to comment on the size. 768 should be the absolute max height of the dialogs and windows. Most laptops still run 1366x768 and that becomes a problem. Or netbooks with 1024x600 even though those are rather rare now. But 768 isn't...
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: Alikhan on January 03, 2017, 01:54:28 PM
While I mostly agree with RejZoR's comment, I would add a comment about the size of the window.
It should be a bit smaller, especially each shield's setting. It does not fit even with 768 height (see attached image). ::)

I also agree that the size of the UI is too big. It should definitely be less than 768 height.

I find statistics very important in an anti-virus (that includes history statistics) and it would be best if each shield had their own statistics.

I'd agree with Rejzor as to the how the GUI should be laid out with Scans and Shields in different tabs. I also like to see the Virus Chest there since in previous versions... it's navigation to find it is difficult.

On top of that, the settings UI font doesn't make it very easy to read. The current settings in the stable version are fine imo in terms of font, width and sizes.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: DavidR on January 03, 2017, 03:33:11 PM
I too believe that size matters, personally if the window was resizeable. Not just smaller then it would be better for those with small screen (netbook) systems and also good for those who may be visually impaired.


At the same time talking about the UI, should we also not talk about the installation window, in old avast versions this was bigger than the UI window and exceeded the screen size on a netbook (800X600), this meant some buttons were off screen. This required a screen resolution hack to trick the system you had a larger resolution.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: bruce_b on January 03, 2017, 05:18:30 PM
What is this new "Software Analyzer" ? .. Not sure what it does.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: REDACTED on January 03, 2017, 05:22:53 PM
VLK - While I don't like it, I don't have the strong disdain for the new GUI some others do.  Here's my thoughts, in order of importance to me:

*  Sizing seems off.  Too large, too much wasted, empty space IMO.  I much prefer small, compact GUIs.  Part of my issue can be due to the fact that I only install the file, or file & web shields.  Maybe if I did the default install, the GUI wouldn't appear so open.

* Something about the colors seem a bit drab.  Maybe the gray is too much in conjunction with the purple/orange?  Just seems a bit ugly to me.  I like colorful GUIs, but cheerful.  I think this color combination is a bit dark.

*  The menus of the current version of Avast seem to make more sense than how the beta is laid out.  I have not looked at them in a while, but I think some of Rejzors suggestions made sense.  It could be a matter of familiarity rather than the beta being "bad".  For instance it seems most GUIs have the 'settings" icon in the upper right.  In the beta settings are moved to the bottom left.

The new GUI is not a deal breaker for me.  As long as the new programs functions as well or better than the current one, I would still use it.  But hopefully the new gui can be tweaked a bit to make it more appealing.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: DavidR on January 03, 2017, 06:57:24 PM
<snip>
*  The menus of the current version of Avast seem to make more sense than how the beta is laid out.  I have not looked at them in a while, but I think some of Rejzors suggestions made sense.  It could be a matter of familiarity rather than the beta being "bad".  For instance it seems most GUIs have the 'settings" icon in the upper right.  In the beta settings are moved to the bottom left.

The new GUI is not a deal breaker for me.  As long as the new programs functions as well or better than the current one, I would still use it.  But hopefully the new gui can be tweaked a bit to make it more appealing.

With this beta UI layout it makes sense to me that the settings option is on the left, the same orientation as the other program options. In the current avast version the program options are across the top of the UI with the settings at the end of the other options.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: bruce_b on January 03, 2017, 07:01:19 PM
 Based on what I have seen, yes, the menus are taking up way too much screen space. Yes, the Virus Chest should be more easily findable. Yes, the colors are bland, but this seems to be the trend now (which is going the wrong way - we need some color)
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: DavidR on January 03, 2017, 07:15:38 PM
Based on what I have seen, yes, the menus are taking up way too much screen space. Yes, the Virus Chest should be more easily findable. Yes, the colors are bland, but this seems to be the trend now (which is going the wrong way - we need some color)

Isn't the virus chest option still available from the avast tray icon (right click) menu, that is quicker to get to the chest not having to go through the UI to get there.

On the subject of the context menu from the avast tray icon; we have been promised numerous times that is to be revamped to provide quick access to common functions. But still very little in this direction.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: Para-Noid on January 03, 2017, 08:45:26 PM
RejZoR hit it right on the button. I like his GUI layout. His design is what I have been wanting for years.
Looks nice and very user friendly. I also agree with the others, size is disproportional to its needs.
A smaller GUI with the ability to re-size according to the users preference would be a step in the right direction.

@ Vlk  My main concern with you starting a thread like this is, "does this mean you are finally going to listen to avast! users?"
           I ask because in the past we have made suggestions only to find deaf ears.
           I might sound a tad harsh but people don't like to spend money on something they don't like.
           Please ask yourself one question..."Which would you buy a great looking car that runs fantastic or one less attractive that just gets the job done"

          "You only get one chance to make a first impression."
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: bob3160 on January 03, 2017, 10:57:25 PM
Avast had a nice UI unfortunately it was some years in the past. (Avast 2015)
Instead of expanding on it, it was simply dropped.
So were the plans to expand the right click menu.


Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: Asyn on January 04, 2017, 07:17:40 AM
Based on what I have seen, yes, the menus are taking up way too much screen space. Yes, the Virus Chest should be more easily findable. Yes, the colors are bland, but this seems to be the trend now (which is going the wrong way - we need some color)

Isn't the virus chest option still available from the avast tray icon (right click) menu, that is quicker to get to the chest not having to go through the UI to get there.
Hi Dave, yes, it's still there.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: noelrojasc on January 04, 2017, 09:22:41 AM
First of all, I would like to say thanks to Vlk for opening this space to share our thoughts about the new Avast skin. As I said before, I think we all agree that the real important thing is what Avast is on the inside, but it is also important how it looks on the outside, because we want our security software to be effective and visually attractive.

Also, I want to thank RejZor for his great job, giving us excellent ideas on how the new version of Avast must look like. I totally subscribe his suggestions for the new Avast skin.

Finally, I would like to submit some additional ideas. I'm sorry I'm not such a good Photoshop artist as RejZor ! Even so, I hope you can grasp what I mean.

Best regards to you all!!!
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: RejZoR on January 04, 2017, 11:59:27 AM
The thing with the 3rd example is that the given panel is meant to accommodate more icons, that's why it's so big. Personally, I'd get rid of the white and extend it all the way to the right. So it would slide out through entire main interface and not just over part of it. It would look a lot nicer, consistent and also allow more icons.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: REDACTED on January 04, 2017, 03:34:08 PM
I really like the proposition of RejZoR. It makes the UI really better.
I would suggest the 'boxes' for the choices on the left are smaller.
So in the Options section, the same style is replicated to keep the same consistency.
What do you think?
PS: For the second screenshot, I have kept the same icon/logo but it should be different according to the selected Option.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: noelrojasc on January 04, 2017, 09:49:28 PM
What do you think about some elements in orange? This has been the distinctive color of Avast for years, and I miss it in the new GUI.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: Lisandro on January 04, 2017, 10:18:41 PM
1. I love the new icon. No more swirling, now it is amoebing :) I suggest you make animation enabled by default again.
2. The interface is too big for me. It's almost maximized in height and we can't reduce it. It should definitely be less than 768 pixels height.
3. There are "lost space" in the menu column at left. Depending on which components you  have installed, some menus are flooded (like Protection) and some empty (Privacy). Maybe something like RejZor suggested here: https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=192684.msg1346794#msg1346794
4. Open a white space when clicking the menu items are very very ugly in my opinion. What if it covers "all" the interface and is colored too? Look the behavior of "Notifications". It's perfect. RejZor has already suggested this here: https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=192684.msg1346811#msg1346811. Also, the modules arrangement is weird, without margins, not "centered" because the words (in different languages) uses different space. I will really really took out the white and return to purple. Remove all the white (see picture).
5. Animated icons of the tools will be good (Antivirus, Wi-Fi Inspector, etc.).
6. Why do the definitions open a new window? Why isn't it integrated in the interface. Note that it blocks clicks on the interface and we need to close the window. Maybe integrating and, when necessary, ask for "save changes".
7. Into "Licensing" the "progress bar" was removed (the one which indicates how long the license will be valid). Why?
8. In "About" tab, the grey letters are not well defined over the background.
9. Please, enable "maximation" of the Help popups. There are text to read and I see no reason for blocking the maximization of that particular window.
10. Button "Fix All" should only appear if something is wrong. If only "Silent Mode" is turned on, why is this "Fix All" button there? It's misleading.
11. Remember Bob's suggestion of text here: https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=192684.msg1348843#msg1348843

I would be more innovative in one aspect:
Put an optional space for live content in the bottom of the interface: there could be blog links, security news, etc.
Put some movement in the interface, caught the common user attention, make it feel useful to open the interface.
For the ones who loves "silent", just an option to remove it.
Something like this: http://www.battware.co.uk/desktopticker.htm
Besides Avast news (or blog) (mandatory) it could allow users to add other sources of news or even weather info.

Be brave! Go for it! Make we open the interface from now on just to now what is happening :)
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: DavidR on January 04, 2017, 10:45:38 PM
What do you think about some elements in orange? This has been the distinctive color of Avast for years, and I miss it in the new GUI.

It might have been distinctive for avast in the past. But if you look at some colour wheel charts a better match would be green (but some greens are sickly) or yellow.

Orange is quite a bit away from the best contrast match for purple (Red Violet)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_wheel#/media/File:Hsv_color_circle.svg
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: REDACTED on January 04, 2017, 10:46:13 PM
Congratulations on opening this topic, only thing that would change in the new Avast is the color, it would make it all black, it would look lovely, at the most, I'm enjoying it, congratulations for the work. Alias, when does the final version come out?
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: RejZoR on January 05, 2017, 12:16:27 AM
This is a screenshot from a stable version, but still applies to latest avast! 17 BETA. I've come to realize this as I was analyzing what could be changed and improved in avast! GUI.

Read my comment on the image itself. In all honesty, the settings in question are entirely unnecessary and just add unnecessary complexity and confusion to the users. I've literally not seen such ridiculously overcomplicated control over the on-access scanning process in any antivirus. This especially holds true even more when you realize there are still settings that affect "floppy" drives. I haven't had a floppy drive in my system for at least 10 years now if not even more...

When you have this many so complex settings, you really can't change settings panels into a nice form and use pretty animated switches to control basic settings like other antiviruses have. I think this version of avast! is a good time to cut away some unnecessary fat and streamline the settings. Maybe there are few users who for some reason want this, but sorry, no other antivirus I've tested in last decade offers such rigorous control over on-access/real-time scanning. Because there is no need for ANY user to have control over this.

Just leave settings as they come out of the box and simply remove these side panels marked with red entirely from the settings.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: Lisandro on January 05, 2017, 12:49:35 AM
The reason and the history of the purple: https://blog.avast.com/the-new-avast-brand-the-story-behind-the-amoeba-and-more  ;)
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: Lisandro on January 05, 2017, 12:52:30 AM
Read my comment on the image itself. In all honesty, the settings in question are entirely unnecessary and just add unnecessary complexity and confusion to the users. I've literally not seen such ridiculously overcomplicated control over the on-access scanning process in any antivirus. This especially holds true even more when you realize there are still settings that affect "floppy" drives. I haven't had a floppy drive in my system for at least 10 years now if not even more...
+1
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: Charyb-0 on January 05, 2017, 01:19:18 AM

Read my comment on the image itself. In all honesty, the settings in question are entirely unnecessary and just add unnecessary complexity and confusion to the users. I've literally not seen such ridiculously overcomplicated control over the on-access scanning process in any antivirus. This especially holds true even more when you realize there are still settings that affect "floppy" drives. I haven't had a floppy drive in my system for at least 10 years now if not even more...

Great idea. Under the File System Shield the only two areas where I change settings are located under Actions and Sensitivity.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: RejZoR on January 05, 2017, 10:01:53 AM
In order to streamline and simplify avast! interface and settings, I think "Packers" menu should also be removed. Default configuration is already as good as it can get, there is no point in giving users control over this, especially not in such detail. It's just taking valuable interface space and confusing users.

Or, if someone in avast! team believes it absolutely must exist in avast!, trim it down into just "Scan archives". A single checkbox control that would ONLY control all the classic archives like ZIP, ACE, RAR, 7z etc. I see no real or logical reason to give users ability to disable scanning of EXE packers like UPX or PEcompact (which are enabled by default), because you absolutely have to scan those in order to provide adequate protection. Otherwise even malware protected by simple UPX would just walk past avast!. That just wouldn't make sense on any level of logic and reason for any user, be it beginner or uber advanced power user.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: lagin on January 05, 2017, 01:09:44 PM
RejZoR, I just reported two problems you mentioned in your video:

Also, we will change submenus a little, not according to your designs, but I believe you will like it more.

And I have to add one more thing, in your video, menu looks so empty, because you are not installing all components. When you install all of them, you will see that there is not that much space.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: Alikhan on January 05, 2017, 01:33:46 PM
And I have to add one more thing, in your video, menu looks so empty, because you are not installing all components. When you install all of them, you will see that there is not that much space.

Not everyone will install all the components so the space still needs to be utilised better.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: DavidR on January 05, 2017, 02:39:30 PM
And I have to add one more thing, in your video, menu looks so empty, because you are not installing all components. When you install all of them, you will see that there is not that much space.

Not everyone will install all the components so the space still needs to be utilised better.

Which basically underscores the request for a resizeable user interface (smaller as well as larger) to compliment the users choice of installed components.

The avast installation setup file allows the user to choose what type of installation - Recommended, Minimal and Custom. The minimal is just two shields File System and Web Shield, so that would be pretty light on space requirements.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: RejZoR on January 05, 2017, 09:22:41 PM
RejZoR, I just reported two problems you mentioned in your video:
  • OO-2688 - Missing focus for tabindex in Uninstall screen (not visible index in uninstall screen)
  • AV-11990 - ASW_NOTIF_RELOAD_IPM event does not refresh IPM elements (causing not refreshing ACTIVATE button in main window)

Also, we will change submenus a little, not according to your designs, but I believe you will like it more.

And I have to add one more thing, in your video, menu looks so empty, because you are not installing all components. When you install all of them, you will see that there is not that much space.

The thing is, things need to be organized differently. Shields crammed into same panel as on-demand scan is just very bad design decision which frankly looks horrible. This needs to be separated from the rest of tools. And access to Virus Chest also needs attention. People expect easy access to it and they (like me) often forget it's there in tray icon menu. It needs to be on front interface.

I'm not expecting exact design per my comments, but I've raised the issues and I hope you guys will implement or redesign them well.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: Be Secure on January 06, 2017, 12:42:19 PM
Avast need to fix this.Software Updater is blank,Anti-spam not working.Need to removed Upgrade.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: bob3160 on January 06, 2017, 01:51:44 PM
@ Be Secure,
(http://screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1483706982494-48266.png)
Maybe you need to do a repair ???
Unless this is only a problem in your version of Avast. ?? I use the Free version without  this problem.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: Be Secure on January 06, 2017, 02:41:41 PM
Thanks@Bob.
It is not fixed by Repair. :(
Anti-spam not working at all. :(
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: lagin on January 06, 2017, 02:47:19 PM
Be Secure, can you please send us contents of this folder... C:\Program Files\AVAST Software\Avast\resources
And this file... C:\Program Files\AVAST Software\Avast\setup\config.def
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: Be Secure on January 06, 2017, 02:51:30 PM
Be Secure, can you please send us contents of this folder... C:\Program Files\AVAST Software\Avast\resources
And this file... C:\Program Files\AVAST Software\Avast\setup\config.def
How?
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: Be Secure on January 09, 2017, 03:26:21 AM
Smart Scan should Replaced by quick scan in Anti-virus menu and Make statistics more user friendly.
Quick Scan-Full syst.Scan-Other Scans.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: DavidR on January 09, 2017, 11:57:24 AM
Smart Scan should Replaced by quick scan in Anti-virus menu and Make statistics more user friendly.
Quick Scan-Full syst.Scan-Other Scans.

I don't see the point in that, given that the Smart Scan is quicker than the "Quick" scan.  The Smart Scan is even quicker if you have removed some of the components that it would scan.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: abruptum on January 09, 2017, 02:11:27 PM
Smart Scan should Replaced by quick scan in Anti-virus menu and Make statistics more user friendly.
Quick Scan-Full syst.Scan-Other Scans.

I don't see the point in that, given that the Smart Scan is quicker than the "Quick" scan.  The Smart Scan is even quicker if you have removed some of the components that it would scan.
So there is no quick scan anymore ?
BTW I am not a beta tester.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: bob3160 on January 09, 2017, 02:32:17 PM
Smart Scan should Replaced by quick scan in Anti-virus menu and Make statistics more user friendly.
Quick Scan-Full syst.Scan-Other Scans.

I don't see the point in that, given that the Smart Scan is quicker than the "Quick" scan.  The Smart Scan is even quicker if you have removed some of the components that it would scan.
So there is no quick scan anymore ?
BTW I am not a beta tester.
(http://screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1483968705155-5755.png)
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: abruptum on January 09, 2017, 02:41:39 PM
Thanks Bob.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: DavidR on January 09, 2017, 04:06:02 PM
Smart Scan should Replaced by quick scan in Anti-virus menu and Make statistics more user friendly.
Quick Scan-Full syst.Scan-Other Scans.

I don't see the point in that, given that the Smart Scan is quicker than the "Quick" scan.  The Smart Scan is even quicker if you have removed some of the components that it would scan.
So there is no quick scan anymore ?
BTW I am not a beta tester.

No one actually said there is no Quick Scan, in the text I quoted it stated "Smart Scan should Replaced by quick scan in Anti-virus menu." This is a suggestion, one that I'm not in favour of and why I commented on that suggestion.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: RejZoR on January 09, 2017, 04:10:07 PM
Also, not sure about Smart Scan as it only scans startup items and memory with quick rootkit scan. Feels like it should be doing a quick scan scope of scanning...
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: RejZoR on January 09, 2017, 08:47:30 PM
I hope we'll have the chance to comment on almost finalized skin, but still before it becomes final. So we can still get some touchups done if necessary. I mean, current GUI format is rather confusing and FAR from optimal. I wouldn't want it released in such form, especially not for such a massive and important release as this one (because of AVG tech merger and all that). It's important to get GUI right. I already know protection will leap dramatically thanks to new Software Analyzer, but I still have great doubts about the interface itself.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: RejZoR on January 10, 2017, 09:06:41 AM
Btw, just screenshots of the changes would do the trick, so you don't have to actually release a whole program which is very demanding and time consuming task. But surely, you guys can keep us up to date with the changes by showing us screenshots of the interface progress per our recommendations.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: noelrojasc on January 10, 2017, 09:22:37 PM
Btw, just screenshots of the changes would do the trick, so you don't have to actually release a whole program which is very demanding and time consuming task. But surely, you guys can keep us up to date with the changes by showing us screenshots of the interface progress per our recommendations.

+1  :)
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: anarkii on January 13, 2017, 05:22:44 AM
Hello,
Can I just add it would be nice to be able right click a app that's blocked, and simply select 'allow' in the firewall.
(http://i.imgur.com/0ZfhbYE.jpg)

Thats my only gripe. I love the UI as it is and is a huge improvement to me other previous versions. :)
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: RejZoR on January 13, 2017, 09:55:30 PM
@Vlk

Ok, I've made a new design and took full interface functionality into consideration by using Premier as example instead of Free version.

Lets leave the basic interface layout as it was designed by avast! team for this version, add "Virus Chest" to the sidebar (I'll be insisting on this one!). There is enough space even for Premier edition layout to have Virus Chest there. Split "Shields" and "Scan" into two separate icons under "Protection" panel, each with its own separate panel when you click one or another. For the sake of being clear what's what and giving you more space instead of cramming both real-time and on-demand on the same panel and getting rid of those silly "Pi" tiny buttons. I'll be insisting on this one as well, because the one with real-time and on-demand stuff under single panel looks absolutely horrible. I think my design of split real-time and on-demand is way more logical and user friendly, especially when it comes to touch control (good luck finger tapping that tiny "Pi" button on a Windows tablet using finger...).

What do you think Vlk? Minimal effort because I haven't dramatically changed the interface, but it looks and feels so much better than what we have in current live BETA.

And a side note about the firewall...
I never paid any attention to it since I'm using free version which doesn't have it, but for the love of all that's holy, it's horrendous. I know we're all friends here, but I have no polite words to describe it how bad the UX design is for the firewall component. And it's early 2017. I didn't expect such bad application control in firewalls back from 2005 era, let alone now. The layout is bad, Application Settings panel is one giant mess, I'm having problems figuring it out and you expect normies to understand it? Oh my god. But again, like always, new big version and no time to fix this properly in 2 weeks time... But seriously, you have to redesign the firewall interface if you want anyone to actually pay for it. Because I wouldn't want to use it even if someone gave it to me for free. Yeah, it's that bad. Just a well meant advice if you want to sell things to people...
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: Para-Noid on January 13, 2017, 11:07:05 PM
I like the layout and you got the white out of there.
Too much white becomes an eyesore.
Now, if only avast! does something with this.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: Luukjr on January 14, 2017, 01:06:31 PM
Great design Rejzor! I really like it. It's how the Avast UI should look like.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: REDACTED on January 14, 2017, 05:13:37 PM
And a side note about the firewall......
Yeah, firewall is (always was) a lost cause. It needs a complete rework.

The simplest low hanging fruit would be to make the applications rules a flat list using plain old path names instead of file info (as, surprise surprise, developers tend to put crap in there).

Real solution would be to drop system rules and application rules and merge them into one top-bottom style hierarchy packet rules list ala Kerio 2.1.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: A. User on January 14, 2017, 10:23:19 PM
First of all i really like the RejZor's proposals for the interface. Nice work!


Next first thing is that when the Avast interface is opened it uses 35 percent of the CPU and between 95 and 127 MBs RAM.


I like the colors. I never thought that i'd like the purple, but somehow i do! The green of the protected shield looks awesome in that dark mode. Someone has proposed a news section... well, maybe sacrifice the size of the 'Upgrade" button and move it next to the "Avast Free Antivirus" in the top and give it a little border radius like the orange beta now has. Put a news button in the place of the current position of "Upgrade". The news would open on button click on top of the ads (you'll live though it).


About the popup with the components, my view is that you should make its background dark as the other parts of the UI are, make use of the FULL space that you can and place all of the buttons. If a user has the free version or has not installed some of the components, still show all of the buttons. Just separate them into sections inside the pop-up with "available with Pro etc." and "not installed". A user would be able to install and uninstall components right from there and not from a separate settings menu or the Control panel. Also i support the idea of removing the separate settings menu and integrating the settings into the relevant components.


I insist on keeping the popup all the way till the install runs and only closing it with the "X" button if the user chooses. On some old machines it takes 3-4 minutes for installation and some users might turn off their PC (yes such people exist) without realizing Avast is still installing. Not sure if Quick scan needs to coexist with the smart one.


Currently the boot time scan once scheduled cannot be unscheduled. Also there is a scheduling button next to the settings button like the one for other scans. There shouldn't be such a button for this scan.


Also make a default secondary action after "Fix automatically" to be "Ask". And once Software Analyzer a.k.a IDP gets to Avast make it clear if selecting "Automatically quarantine known threats" still asks for unknown threats or simply ignores them.


Trying to update Flash Player using Software Updater was ok but one more empty window which was not needed opened. LINK (http://imgur.com/a/IUbvu).


PS.: Forgot to mention that a default animated tray icon would be good.  ::)
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: REDACTED on January 14, 2017, 11:26:58 PM
I like RejZoR's suggestions. I'm getting used to the new UI, and the purple color, however, please don't drop Avast's iconic orange! It's unique to avast! and I love it!
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: giova on January 15, 2017, 02:20:47 PM
I dont like those colors.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: bob3160 on January 15, 2017, 02:25:21 PM
I dont like those colors.
It's totally impossible to satisfy every one. It should be possible to satisfy a majority of users. :)
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: RejZoR on January 21, 2017, 08:36:43 AM
I'm now wondering what was even the point of this thread... Only change that was made to the GUI was changing this white panel to a purple panel... Yes, it's a step into right direction, but it's 29 steps away from what it should look like to actually look and feel good.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: noelrojasc on January 21, 2017, 06:46:47 PM
You guys did an excellent work for AVG. Why not for AVAST??? :-\
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: DavidR on January 21, 2017, 07:11:33 PM
You guys did an excellent work for AVG. Why not for AVAST??? :-\

That is what makes it so disappointing.
That said I just wonder who actually did it.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: Lord_Ami on January 21, 2017, 07:21:53 PM
Come on people, it's not that bad (speed aside) :)
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: Asyn on January 21, 2017, 07:40:00 PM
Come on people, it's not that bad (speed aside) :)
The speed is one of the main issues, as this is not about design but about usability.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: DavidR on January 21, 2017, 07:44:12 PM
Come on people, it's not that bad (speed aside) :)

I have been using avast for very close to thirteen years and in that time we have had some great UIs. Even the very old skinable ones of the 4.x era, avast 5, 6, 7 and 8 weren't bad at all. Looking at it from outside the beta build and monitoring the beta topics, this one looks to have taken a nose dive.

Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: RejZoR on January 21, 2017, 08:01:59 PM
Come on people, it's not that bad (speed aside) :)

It is bad as a whole.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: REDACTED on January 22, 2017, 09:42:24 PM
It is bad as a whole.

Sorry to hear that.

In my opinion the interface has been on a downward spiral ever since it tried to mimic Windows 8. I used to recommend avast to people, but I'm not comfortable doing that any more.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: bob3160 on January 22, 2017, 09:57:18 PM
It is bad as a whole.

Sorry to hear that.

In my opinion the interface has been on a downward spiral ever since it tried to mimic Windows 8. I used to recommend avast to people, but I'm not comfortable doing that any more.
You use and recommend an AV for it's ability to protect you.  :o
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: DavidR on January 22, 2017, 10:28:37 PM
It is bad as a whole.

Sorry to hear that.

In my opinion the interface has been on a downward spiral ever since it tried to mimic Windows 8. I used to recommend avast to people, but I'm not comfortable doing that any more.

I hated the windows 8.0/8.1 tiled/modern touch screen styled interface and kept away from windows 8.0/8.1. I couldn't stand the way everyone and their dog were mimicking the windows interface. But that didn't stop me continuing to use avast, I probably spend more time in the interface than your average user (grabbing images) to help out in the forums. But even then the time spent in the UI is minimal for most people not to use it or recommend it to others.

There are things I don't like about this beta version, but it won't stop me using avast just because of the interface.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: RejZoR on January 23, 2017, 09:28:13 AM
It is bad as a whole.

Sorry to hear that.

In my opinion the interface has been on a downward spiral ever since it tried to mimic Windows 8. I used to recommend avast to people, but I'm not comfortable doing that any more.
You use and recommend an AV for it's ability to protect you.  :o

People are visual creatures and you know it. If something looks unprofessional, ugly or hard to navigate, they'll avoid it even if it otherwise provides 100% detection. I know this first hand from my real job. We help customers find the desired product, they love everything about it, but then comes the big one "But that color is so ugly." And yes, MANY customers decide not to buy a device which has a sole function of making your life easier just because it comes in a color they don't like. And we aren't talking a mobile phone or a car here. We are talking about devices which are hidden in a closet 99% of the time and when they are used, no one is around to see how ugly colored it is. No, I'm not talking about self pleasuring devices lol XD Imagine steam iron or a vacuum cleaner.

Yes, detection surely is a No.1 on the priority list, but visual presentation comes in on strong second place. The third would be price in my opinion from observations of people. Fourth, the tech support and community. Do you get the feeling how important visual presentation is now?

What saddens me is that avast! team didn't consider any of the small changes we recommended which basically just involved re-arranging what they already have and which could be done with minimal effort and time needed to execute it. They could push the GUI with this from rather poor to a pretty damn decent state. Just by shifting few things around! I just don't get it.

Look at Kaspersky Antivirus 2017 interface and then look at avast! 17 BETA interface. All I can say is I rest my case. I hate it comparing to competition like this, but my words don't seem to be understood by some. Speed, visually appealing design, logical layout, consistency of elements and interface itself. All the things Kaspersky has and this new avast!'s interface doesn't. And I could get past all the silly inconsistencies if they only split up on-access and on-demand task and settings in the main GUI. But they insist on keeping it crammed together. That part annoys me so much. First of all it's crammed, it's badly laid out, because it's so little space with everything crammed in there, they couldn't even add Behavior Shield to the list, that "Pi" button to show statistics, like I've said million times it's microscopic and impossible to tap with a finger on a touch device like Windows tablet. I just don't know and understand why they are heading in this direction.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: Be Secure on January 23, 2017, 11:03:14 AM
Avast should learn from Emsisoft internet security.How to make it(GUI) simple but powerful. :)
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: RejZoR on January 23, 2017, 11:15:14 AM
Yes, Emsisoft also has a pretty nice GUI. Looks nice and is super easy to navigate. I also like how clicking individual groups (like Protection) moves you to settings for it. So you have all the info on front end and when you click it, it takes you to settings of that component.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: DavidR on January 23, 2017, 11:52:39 AM
Avast should learn from Emsisoft internet security.How to make it (GUI) simple but powerful. :)

I don't believe the Emsisoft UI (image) would be widely liked. Aside from being absolutely massive (even bigger than avast), and does look  a bit like an old avast UI in a way. One thing for sure this avast UI still needs work and we can't be far off releasing it.

When all things considered, just compare the AVG UI (after all they are now part of avast) and it is chalk and cheese, couldn't be more different. One looks professionally put together and the other almost an after thought.

Get rid of the ZEN element of AVG's interface change the colours to an avast scheme (Grey and Orange highlights) in the same style.

What I can't get over is the way for years we have been striving to reduce the size of things and now massive is the new Black.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: noelrojasc on January 25, 2017, 02:34:59 PM
I think that in this forum, some valuable advices to re-design the Avast UI have been given. Now we Avast users are waiting with expectation, hoping our ideas will be considered.

And sorry for asking, but ... Is it possible to know when shall we have a new Beta version? Or ... are you Avast Team going back to the drawing table and re-designing it completely? We want to hear news from you!

By the way ... I am one of those who are sticking with Avast, trusting that at the end, you will make a good job - as always - and we will finally enjoy a new powerful in protection, well designed and sharp looking Avast version.  ;)
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: RejZoR on January 25, 2017, 06:53:06 PM
We talked with the avast! team about it yesterday and today. While there was quite some constructive discussions made, we kinda lacked more direct discussion about it with team actually writing things down. Some were and some were confirmed to already be in the pipeline (just not yet in the release available to us). There will be some changes, not many, at least not at the given time. But the idea is for them to stick with the interface for longer than before, hopefully giving it enough time to improve and polish it.

At that point, I hope they'll stick with it for even longer. Users don't like dramatic changes and that's in a way problem why avast! never really gets polished. When it gets to that point, they scrap the interface, make a new one, but keep lots of parts from the old one. For example, if you look at the main settings, they are nearly identical since version 5.x while the rest of the interface changed dramatically over time. And now it just feels like they merged front GUI from latest avast! with Settings page from avast! 5.x.

While I'm super interested in Behavior Shield and few other proactive features where we did agree on some pretty neat new features they didn't consider at first, the interface is still of really high priority for me. And from what I see many other guys. I don't know, we'll see how it goes after final release of version 17 and when they cycle back into monthly releases.

I wonder if they'll be able to evolve the interface slowly from month to month through the year or will they wait for the next big release. Some unknowns for now...
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: DavidR on January 25, 2017, 07:29:53 PM
Thanks for the update (no pun intended), it has always amazed me that for many years the avast 4.x Skinable UI was great as users could have the interface they liked best.

Avast 5 was a step change away from the old interface, but then program updates still weren't annual. But then virtually all AVs seemed to have an annual update and this was mostly reflected in a change of the UI.

If it works, keep it, only making changed if there are program changes, there have been some nice UIs along the way. But this annual program (and UI) update seemed more of keeping up with the other AVs launching a program update.

For some time we had Google-Analytics monitoring the users interaction with the UI. This was supposed to gather data for the next UI update so it was more intuitive/user friendly. It just doesn't seem any data gathered has been used.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: RejZoR on January 25, 2017, 11:36:32 PM
They do have (internal) telemetry now with new interface. As far as I managed to gather info from the presentations.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: DavidR on January 26, 2017, 12:27:28 AM
They do have (internal) telemetry now with new interface. As far as I managed to gather info from the presentations.

Thank you, lets hope they use the data they collect.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: =Snake= on January 26, 2017, 01:00:24 PM
And how about the colors? Maybe it's s.th. for women .....
Just tried to change the color of my sig, but lilac is no color (not supported by this forum sw)!
 ;D ;D ;D
=Snake= aka HDW38
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: DavidR on January 26, 2017, 03:09:00 PM
And how about the colors? Maybe it's s.th. for women .....
Just tried to change the color of my sig, but lilac is no color (not supported by this forum sw)!
 ;D ;D ;D
=Snake= aka HDW38

You just have to get creative ;)

http://www.colorpicker.com/color-chart/ (http://www.colorpicker.com/color-chart/)
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: =Snake= on January 26, 2017, 07:22:28 PM
Thank you, David.
Edit: Sorry, don't know, how to use.
 :)
=Snake=
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: DavidR on January 26, 2017, 09:40:48 PM
Thank you, David.
Edit: Sorry, don't know, how to use.
 :)
=Snake=

If you quote my post, you should be able to see (the code) how I did it, set any colour as you did for the Red in your signature. Now substitute the word Red for the colour code in my post, check out the link I gave for colours.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: =Snake= on January 26, 2017, 10:04:28 PM

I tried this, but didn't succeed. Sorry.
 :(
=Snake=
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: REDACTED on January 26, 2017, 10:07:24 PM
      Like the current  U I  with minor changes  .  Would  like to see more  done  between  AVG & Avast  for the new release .
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: DavidR on January 26, 2017, 11:11:15 PM

I tried this, but didn't succeed. Sorry.
 :(
=Snake=

When you quote a post or text you should be able to see the code tags, this is represented in my example below.
Code: [Select]
[color=#C8A2C8]lilac is no color (not supported by this forum sw[/color]
When you created your signature, you changed some of it to Red, this is enclosed in the color tags. Replacing the Red (text to display the color) with the code #C8A2C8 seen in the code tag above.

When displayed to your browser it is converted into the colored text.
e.g. lilac is no color (not supported by this forum sw

The only real problem that I see is that Lilac as a colour isn't very good against the forum background colour, but it does work.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: Asyn on January 27, 2017, 11:32:22 AM
And how about the colors? Maybe it's s.th. for women .....
Just tried to change the color of my sig, but lilac is no color (not supported by this forum sw)!
No need to change it to purple, the main Avast color is still orange.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: bob3160 on January 27, 2017, 03:45:41 PM
For the foreseeable future, I suggest you learn to like the  current color scheme.
A lot of time effort and money was invested in their creation and isn't likely to be   changed   very quickly  :)
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: =Snake= on January 27, 2017, 03:50:28 PM
And how about the colors? Maybe it's s.th. for women .....
Just tried to change the color of my sig, but lilac is no color (not supported by this forum sw)!
No need to change it to purple, the main Avast color is still orange.

++1
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: DavidR on January 27, 2017, 05:07:04 PM
For the foreseeable future, I suggest you learn to like the  current color scheme.
A lot of time effort and money was invested in their creation and isn't likely to be   changed   very quickly  :)

He isn't trying to change the forum colour scheme, but some of the text in his signature.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: A. User on January 27, 2017, 05:12:34 PM
BBcode is an intermediate markup language to restrict HTML access for forum board customers. Here you are, a reference with the tags: LINK (http://bbcode.org/reference.php)  :)  There is a playground to experiment as much as you wish.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: bob3160 on January 27, 2017, 05:15:40 PM
For the foreseeable future, I suggest you learn to like the  current color scheme.
A lot of time effort and money was invested in their creation and isn't likely to be   changed   very quickly  :)

He isn't trying to change the forum colour scheme, but some of the text in his signature.
It's a shame that the post I created a long time ago on the now missing off topic forum can't be accessed any more.  I certainly will not attempt to put something together on this tablet while connected to wife at 36000 feet.  :)
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: =Snake= on January 27, 2017, 05:22:30 PM
For the foreseeable future, I suggest you learn to like the  current color scheme.
A lot of time effort and money was invested in their creation and isn't likely to be   changed   very quickly  :)

He isn't trying to change the forum colour scheme, but some of the text in his signature.
Right, David, but (so sorry!) it didn't work. I'll NEVER like the current color scheme of new UI!
Quote
A lot of time effort and money was invested in their creation
This was a big mistake! Why isn't it possible for each user to change this horrible scheme?

=Snake=


Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: DavidR on January 27, 2017, 06:50:41 PM
<snip quotes>
This was a big mistake! Why isn't it possible for each user to change this horrible scheme?

=Snake=

The wording of your original question mentioned changing the colour in your 'sig,' (which I took as your signature colour). It is possible to change the colour of your signature text, but it isn't possible to change the colour of a forum theme, which is essentially what you are saying you wanted to do.

You could change the avast forum theme, to another (but that I feel is even worse) theme there is another option. Forum Profile > Look and Feel - at the top of that page you will see this text "Forum or Board Default (change)"  the option in brackets is a link option that allows you to swap.

Use the Core Theme - click the 'Preview theme' option to see the differences. You will probably agree that one is pretty bland and basic. Not to mention you can't change those colours either. no Lilac option :D
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: =Snake= on January 27, 2017, 06:58:23 PM
<snip quotes>
This was a big mistake! Why isn't it possible for each user to change this horrible scheme?

=Snake=

It is possible to change the colour of your signature text, but it isn't possible to change the colour of a forum theme, which is essentially what you are saying you wanted to do.
Dear David!

I'll write it again: I only meant the scheme of the neu Beta-UI!
(Sorry for not writing clearly).
 :(
=Snake=
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: A. User on January 27, 2017, 06:59:35 PM
WOW so much talking for something we cannot change.  ;D
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: YLAP on January 27, 2017, 07:04:32 PM
With all the respect. I think the most important thing is how antivirus protects you, not the color of the interface. Nice to hear the personal preferences, but it would be better to discuss about UI in terms of functionality, not black or pink it looks better etc. :) Trying to keep the discussion as productive as it is possible :)
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: =Snake= on January 27, 2017, 07:05:33 PM
Quote from:  link=topic=194873.msg1362085#msg1362085 date=1485539975
WOW   ;D
Misunderstandings are possible and normal everywhere.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: =Snake= on January 27, 2017, 07:08:23 PM
@YLAP

Do you know s.th. new concerning this Beta?
 ;)
=Snake=
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: REDACTED on January 27, 2017, 10:27:41 PM
With all the respect. I think the most important thing is how antivirus protects you, not the color of the interface. Nice to hear the personal preferences, but it would be better to discuss about UI in terms of functionality, not black or pink it looks better etc. :) Trying to keep the discussion as productive as it is possible :)

I agree.  But it can be argued the beta GUI is too large for lower resolution laptops, etc...  So while the color scheme does not really matter, the GUI size might.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: A. User on January 28, 2017, 11:52:33 AM
With all the respect. I think the most important thing is how antivirus protects you, not the color of the interface. Nice to hear the personal preferences, but it would be better to discuss about UI in terms of functionality, not black or pink it looks better etc. :) Trying to keep the discussion as productive as it is possible :)

I agree.  But it can be argued the beta GUI is too large for lower resolution laptops, etc...  So while the color scheme does not really matter, the GUI size might.
+1 trillion
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: Eddy on February 04, 2017, 02:37:18 AM
Al this talk about liking or not the new colors *sigh*.
It is just a matter of personal taste.

Let's face it...
The amount of protection is much more important.
And how many people are there that open the GUI of their av just to "enjoy" the colors of it ?

What matters is
- are things readable (also for people with eyesight problems)
- are things (settings) in logical places
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: REDACTED on February 04, 2017, 02:04:35 PM
I made a post this morning regarding the text scaling (which seems to have been deleted from this thread for some reason) in the scan results menu (detailed report of a previous scan) where the text is too big to fit in the text boxes and therefore is unreadable. This same thing happens when I "Right click scan" on a folder and if malware is found. I am using Windows 10 with 200% scaling on a HiDPI screen. Also the Avast icon on the "right click context menu" is way to small.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: =Snake= on February 04, 2017, 02:18:52 PM
I am using Windows 10 with 200% scaling on a HiDPI screen. Also the Avast icon on the "right click context menu" is way to small.

Well, I'm not using W 10, but a scaling of 200% will fit no desktop. But therefore you can use the magnifier and reduce your scaling to 100%.
 ;)
=Snake=
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: bob3160 on February 04, 2017, 02:28:03 PM
@ indusolanki85,
Why aren't you complaining to the manufacturer of your monitor
why the screen doesn't grow when you increase the print size ???  :)
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: REDACTED on February 04, 2017, 02:31:06 PM
I am using Windows 10 with 200% scaling on a HiDPI screen. Also the Avast icon on the "right click context menu" is way to small.

Well, I'm not using W 10, but a scaling of 200% will fit no desktop. But therefore you can use the magnifier and reduce your scaling to 100%.
 ;)
=Snake=

The native resolution of my screen is 3840x2160 so a 200% scaling in Windows is basically a MUST otherwise everything is super tiny. The new Avast GUI more or less scales excellently with the 200% scaling, it is only in a few places this issue where text scales to 200% but the GUI does not as can be seen in the pic.

BTW the windows and my monitor work perfectly fine it is only a bug in the avast GUI that needs to be fixed.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: =Snake= on February 04, 2017, 02:37:31 PM

BTW the windows and my monitor work perfectly fine it is only a bug in the avast GUI that needs to be fixed.
Ok, I see.

=Snake=
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: REDACTED on February 04, 2017, 02:57:09 PM
I must say that the new Avast GUI is very well made (mostly) for HiDPI screens, its only a few issues where for example
- The tick boxes are very small compared to the text besides it. Some times the Text actually coincides with the tick box (very awkward looking).
 
But in other places like when viewing Firewall logs, everything is perfectly scaling with the GUI but as soon as viewing detailed scan report for example (like in my previous post pic), scaling issues appear.

They are inconsistent but I am sure that the capable Avast Developer team is more than capable of getting rid of these few but rather awkward inconsistencies before the final version is released to general public.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: =Snake= on February 04, 2017, 03:07:00 PM
They are inconsistent but I am sure that the capable Avast Developer team is more than capable of getting rid of these few but rather awkward inconsistencies before the final version is released to general public.
Remains a lot to do for the devs. So, please, don't push them.
 ;)
=Snake=
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: bob3160 on February 04, 2017, 03:09:30 PM
The Avast developers are the ones who will make the final decision of what's important and needs
to be addressed before the actual release and which items can be corrected subsequent to that release. :)
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: =Snake= on February 04, 2017, 03:19:06 PM

And everybody hopes, that his wishes come true.  :)

=Snake= aka HDW38
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: REDACTED on February 04, 2017, 03:22:25 PM
The Avast developers are the ones who will make the final decision of what's important and needs
to be addressed before the actual release and which items can be corrected subsequent to that release. :)

I am very well aware that the Avast developers will make the final call on what makes it to the final product, but since this is a Beta product forum and the developers are asking for our feedback regarding the "GUI" alone, we (as beta testers) are supposed to actually test the product and find any bugs or glitches in the Beta Product. And this is exactly what I am trying to do, I found a bug/glitch in the GUI (this thread is about the GUI) and am reporting it to the developers. This issue may be very small and limited to users with HiDPI screens but we do have to remember that most of the laptops and tablets these days are HiDPI and this issue basically breaks the experience when using this product.
I mean if you "right click scan" a folder and cant actually understand what the scan results are, that's just simply a broken and bad experience in my opinion.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: bob3160 on February 04, 2017, 03:24:26 PM
You are totally correct. Avast welcomes all input.
The more suggestions they receive, the better the final outcome. :)
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: REDACTED on February 04, 2017, 08:35:22 PM
personally i dont "hate" the new ui. i just think it needs to be polished up a decent amount and then it could be something great. i miss the older versions ui's but this one i do prefer to the previous one. and with each update i can see small changes made. i just wish they would hold back a bit and fix a bunch of stuff then release it as that polished ui i hope it becomes.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: DavidR on February 04, 2017, 09:01:56 PM
I can live with almost any UI because I don't live in it, even though I probably spend more time in it because of helping in the forums.

For me the most critical issue is it is too bloody big, the inability to be able to resize it is my biggest complaint. It doesn't matter how great it is if it won't fit on low resolution systems 1024X600 (netbook) and you can't resize it.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: =Snake= on February 04, 2017, 09:29:50 PM
For me the most critical issue is it is too bloody big, the inability to be able to resize it is my biggest complaint. It doesn't matter how great it is if it won't fit on low resolution systems 1024X600 (netbook) and you can't resize it.
You're right. I have to confirm.

=Snake=
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: yowanvista on February 08, 2017, 07:51:09 PM
This new interface is absolutely terrible. It looks like someone slapped a poorly designed touchscreen interface inside some kind of crappy HTML+JS wrapper or non-win32 native framework which makes the whole UI laggy and unresponsive. Some major annoyances I've noticed:

- The UI is too 'noob friendly', several advanced options are hidden or simply buried deep inside the application. You need more and more clicks to find an item that should otherwise be accessible on the main screen. e.g: update and application history, custom scans, system status etc. This was not an issue 2-3 years back with earlier versions. Unnecessarily long and poorly worded childish descriptions in some places, especially those in in 'Components'.

- Awful colour scheme with disproportionate iconography, not to mention the blurry text inside the settings section and the fact that the 'Component' section randomly scrolls when you've disabled something.

- Waste of space throughout the application due to the touchscreen/mobile oriented design, this is prominent in the 'Status' section where all you see is 'You're Protected' and that's all, no details, nothing else.

- Inconsistency due to the usage of different design patterns, e.g. drop down menus in general settings, toggles with icons in the next section, checkboxes in other places but large fat icons in the main screen. If you're going to use transitions and slide out menus in one place you'd better apply them throughout the whole app and eliminate older design patterns like the countless popup windows (scan history, virus chest) or the act of having to scroll through those endless drop down menus (which is somewhat laggy) in 'Settings', something which itself could be replaced by a simple and intuitive tabbed design.

- The way scans are handled is abhorrent, I couldn't find a sane and straightforward way to configure how the 'Smart Scan' works from the 'Protection' section. From what I've noticed you can't even view the scan results unless you select 'Resolve All' which implies that Avast devs may somehow think that users are too dumb to take their own actions. If you ignore the scan results the app will constantly complain about it (again no visible option to dismiss that) in the Status section. Yep, there are "A couple of things to fix", that's what we're told but we have no ability to view what those are. "Smart Scan has finished - Show Results", once again I can't hide that unless I resolve all, which is ironical because I cannot see a detailed view of what needs to be resolved in the first place. If you think that few green ticks and red crosses are enough you're dead wrong. - That's poor design right there.

- The way notifications are handled is nonsensical, I hope you realise that this is a PC application so quit copying the Android notification panel, or at least the swipe to dismiss notification actions. Also, why the hell should the notification section cover the whole goddamn main app section?

- I couldn't find something like a unified recent activity or security history section (like in Norton) which would list all events (full scan reports, logged network/application activity, alerts, detected threats, quarantined items, recent updates etc) performed or encountered by the Avast.  It's like we're given less and less control over what the app is actively doing in background. e.g if an Avast executable is doing something and using a high amount of disk I/O, I shouldn't need to launch resource monitor/resmon to know that something is being automatically scanned. Avast itself should display feedback or an indication within the main screen/tray icon that X or Y action is being done. Additionally that event and its details would need to be logged in that 'recent activity' section.

As a longtime (8+ years) user who was accustomed to earlier versions of Avast Internet Security with proper decent UIs, this kind of pointless change is infuriating. I understand that most of your userbase may be average joes with limited technical knowledge but at least give us a choice, an option to disable, remove and purge that new interface and provide us with something more professional. I wonder if you even did some usability testing before pushing such intrusive changes.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: bob3160 on February 09, 2017, 12:45:22 AM
The good thing is the that the protection and detection has greatly improved.
To me, that's the important part. I hardly ever use the UI. :)
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: RejZoR on February 09, 2017, 10:46:32 AM
Sure, but when GUI is limiting your control and annoying you when detections do happen and you don't have absolute control over it, that's where importance of GUI shows.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: DavidR on February 09, 2017, 11:09:53 AM
Well this post may well give some relief on the size of the UI in version 17.2.x https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=196445.msg1365732#msg1365732 (https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=196445.msg1365732#msg1365732).
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: Lord_Ami on February 11, 2017, 04:47:18 PM
I believe this is incorrect:
When turning updates to "Ask...", main UI shows "Turn off" instead of "Turn on".
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: Asyn on February 11, 2017, 04:49:25 PM
Looks like a bug, good catch.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: Alikhan on February 11, 2017, 04:54:29 PM
I believe this is incorrect:
When turning updates to "Ask...", main UI shows "Turn off" instead of "Turn on".

This is a bug. I'll report it now.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: DavidR on February 11, 2017, 05:05:11 PM
Not sure if this isn't actually the right thing to do, if you turn off auto update on the VPS, you don't get streaming updates.

I notice my image is slightly different the Status tab changed to Yellow and an exclamation point (!), the tray icon also shows the ! (with yellow triangle) superimposed. The FIX ALL resets it back to Auto.

And yes the Turn OFF needs changing.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: Lord_Ami on February 11, 2017, 05:45:52 PM
Yes, I have it turned on. I was just experimenting ;)

Not sure if this isn't actually the right thing to do, if you turn off auto update on the VPS, you don't get streaming updates.

I notice my image is slightly different the Status tab changed to Yellow and an exclamation point (!), the tray icon also shows the ! (with yellow triangle) superimposed. The FIX ALL resets it back to Auto.

And yes the Turn OFF needs changing.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: =Snake= on February 11, 2017, 08:26:46 PM
@DavidR
Hi!

Your screenshot shows me: you still have the beta!
 ;)
=Snake=
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: DavidR on February 11, 2017, 08:31:55 PM
@DavidR
Hi!

Your screenshot shows me: you still have the beta!
 ;)
=Snake=

Wrong.

Those taking part in the beta testing are on the beta channel, so should another beta session be started, you automatically get notified of the 'update.' You can only remove the beta branding in the UI by installing the non beta channel regular release, or doing a clean install.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: =Snake= on February 11, 2017, 08:38:37 PM
@DavidR
Hi!
Your screenshot shows me: you still have the beta!
=Snake=
Wrong.
You can only remove the beta branding in the UI by installing the non beta channel regular release.
I did so. Thx.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: REDACTED on February 12, 2017, 02:16:36 PM
I can't believe on my eyes... these icons and font ... very bad decision  :o
http://prntscr.com/e7qhgy
If they don't turn back the old Avast I will look for another AV.  :'(
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: bob3160 on February 12, 2017, 02:22:10 PM
I can't believe on my eyes... these icons and font ... very bad decision  :o
http://prntscr.com/e7qhgy (http://prntscr.com/e7qhgy)
If they don't turn back the old Avast I will look for another AV.  :'(
I choose my AV for the protection it offers.
I guess we all have different items of importance. :)
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: REDACTED on February 12, 2017, 08:33:29 PM
Hi,

No reply on my previous posts regarding the GUI scaling on HiDPI screens (4k, 5k etc.). Any comment from the developer that they are at least working on this GUI bug would be appreciated. It is not only about the protection that Avast offers, but it is about the whole package if you ask me. Looking at the pic, you can understand my frustration when I scan something and can't even see the scan results properly.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: REDACTED on February 19, 2017, 09:41:41 PM
Hi guys,

I'd like to open a new thread regarding the "skin" of the new Avast.

I have seen various discussions about it scattered around the forum, but it's a bit difficult to get a grasp of it. In general, I understand the feedback tends to be negative, but I'd like to understand whether it's related to the size of the UI, the layout of the navigation, the color scheme, the font, the speed, ... BTW One thing that we focused on improving were the flows, i.e. making the various tasks much more bullet-proof and user-friendly. I think we delivered on that one, but I haven't seen it discussed anywhere.

So, can you please be a bit more specific in your feedback? Besides RejZoR's suggestion on how to reorganize the menu bar, I haven't seen much except for adjectives like "awful", "unprofessional" etc which don't really give much insight at all.

We still have some time to shuffle some things around, although obviously what you see is pretty close to what the final will look like.

Thanks
Vlk

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Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: Eddy on February 19, 2017, 09:51:52 PM
This is a English forum.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: bruce_b on February 19, 2017, 10:00:43 PM
Mainly the Color (looks horrible) and the Size of the Main Window (can not be resized, but the Settings sub window can be)
And it does take just a bit too long to open on some computers.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: REDACTED on March 16, 2017, 04:59:51 PM
I also liked the old UI more. And what's even worse: I always hated software that gave me the feeling to work with a free or trial version by displaying "Upgrade" buttons on the UI. Now, avast Pro is doing the same although it is already a paid version. This is really annoying! This should be removed, paying users should not be bugged to upgrade to anything, this is ok for free versions, but not paid ones.
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: REDACTED on May 20, 2017, 01:06:01 PM
I open chrome after a new install and days of computer fix-ups, and a robot voice declares I have viruses... even thought i have avast working overtime to protect my computer... and so i open avast and all i can do is look at this stupid interface with no clue as to what to do except be a robot and let them do what THEY think should be done to my computer and probably nothing to do with viruses. I am faced with "RUN SMART SCAN".. Just make the interface useable please. I am sick of it. Would avast like to tell me what time to change my underpants too? How about listening to users for JUST ONCE PLEASE!

And criminals... please go get a life in some garbage dump and leave peoples computers alone....

Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: Para-Noid on May 24, 2017, 08:28:47 PM
I open chrome after a new install and days of computer fix-ups, and a robot voice declares I have viruses... even thought i have avast working overtime to protect my computer... and so i open avast and all i can do is look at this stupid interface with no clue as to what to do except be a robot and let them do what THEY think should be done to my computer and probably nothing to do with viruses. I am faced with "RUN SMART SCAN".. Just make the interface useable please. I am sick of it. Would avast like to tell me what time to change my underpants too? How about listening to users for JUST ONCE PLEASE!

And criminals... please go get a life in some garbage dump and leave peoples computers alone....

Did you click on protection>antivirus>then select a scan?
Title: Re: New Avast UI Discussion
Post by: bob3160 on June 04, 2017, 05:37:24 PM
Here's some more help:
https://youtu.be/KxDIWJ5-QqU