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Title: Refund?
Post by: REDACTED on February 01, 2017, 06:22:58 PM
Alright, I don't know if this is the right place for it, but here's the situation.
My computer, on which I've now recieved, today, a renewed license, has been out of use for at least half a year now.
I had simply forgotten to cancel the renewal in time, but now I would definitely like my money back, because my computer is busted and there is absolutely no reason I need to have an internet security that I can't use.

I'd hate to have 49,99€ go up in smoke for nothing. I haven't really been using it anyway. I haven't even activated it, since the computer it's supposed to be licensed for hasn't been on for at least 6 months.

So is it possible for me to get a refund still?
I hope it is.

I'm truly sorry if this is completely the wrong place for this but I didn't know what else to do and having forgotten to cancel the renewal just pisses me off so damn much, right now.
Title: Re: Refund?
Post by: bob3160 on February 01, 2017, 06:29:45 PM
https://support.avast.com/support/tickets/new?form=2
It can take up to 5 business days for a reply so be patient.
Title: Re: Refund?
Post by: Eddy on February 01, 2017, 06:32:33 PM
Avast has a 30 day refund policy.
It is clear you did not asked for a refund within this period.

You can use the license for the remaining time on a new system if you want.
Title: Re: Refund?
Post by: bob3160 on February 01, 2017, 06:34:03 PM
Avast has a 30 day refund policy.
It is clear you did not asked for a refund within this period.

You can use the license for the remaining time on a new system if you want.
Eddy, the renewal occurred today.
Title: Re: Refund?
Post by: Eddy on February 01, 2017, 06:36:19 PM
No, the computer returned today.
Looks you missed the part where the op says "has been out of use for at least half a year now."
Title: Re: Refund?
Post by: REDACTED on February 01, 2017, 06:49:22 PM
Oh no, I mean it's still out of use.
I didn't use the new license, I just went to my Avast account on my work laptop and cancelled the renewal for next time, but the renewal happened today. As in I got the email saying "The renewal of your subscription was successful" or whatever the english equivalent is.

So can I still get a refund from it, through that link you gave me?

If so, I should have 30 days anyway so no problem. Unless I misunderstood.
Title: Re: Refund?
Post by: Eddy on February 01, 2017, 06:50:53 PM
Yes, you still are entitled for a refund.
Submit the ticket and have patience.
avast will handle it.
Title: Re: Refund?
Post by: REDACTED on February 01, 2017, 07:05:10 PM
Alright, thank you!

I feel dumb for having to ask, but do I put my home address to the "billing address" section when asking for the refund, or do I put something else, like my email address?
Title: Re: Refund?
Post by: DavidR on February 01, 2017, 07:30:10 PM
Alright, thank you!

I feel dumb for having to ask, but do I put my home address to the "billing address" section when asking for the refund, or do I put something else, like my email address?

I would put the email address anyway (in the more information box), so they could contact you if they need to.

I believe the billing address may be used to confirm/find the order to process it.
Title: Re: Refund?
Post by: Eddy on February 01, 2017, 07:42:54 PM
If the email address hasn't changed, avast will know it by looking at the order details/ID.
Title: Re: Refund?
Post by: DavidR on February 01, 2017, 09:02:00 PM
If the email address hasn't changed, avast will know it by looking at the order details/ID.

We don't know that and it doesn't hurt to give it.
Title: Re: Refund?
Post by: moroni on February 02, 2017, 07:32:09 AM
If the email address hasn't changed we can find the license using it (it is our preferred method to identify a customer), but we still ask for the billing address as oftentimes we get refund requests from customers that don't remember which email address they used when purchasing the license, so we need to match the customer's name and billing address :)
Title: Re: Refund?
Post by: REDACTED on February 14, 2017, 12:57:34 AM
I'm having problems getting a refund too. I forgot to cancel the auto-renewal and avast debited my account for $89.99 on Friday Feb 10th for the renewal which begins on Feb 20th. I called to cancel and get a refund and was told it would cost me $120.00 for the technician to cancel and refund my money!!! WTF?  My bank account is already overdrafted because of the renewal and they want more money??? How can I get  my $89.99 back?
Title: Re: Refund?
Post by: DavidR on February 14, 2017, 01:36:57 AM
I'm having problems getting a refund too. I forgot to cancel the auto-renewal and avast debited my account for $89.99 on Friday Feb 10th for the renewal which begins on Feb 20th. I called to cancel and get a refund and was told it would cost me $120.00 for the technician to cancel and refund my money!!! WTF?  My bank account is already overdrafted because of the renewal and they want more money??? How can I get  my $89.99 back?

Calling just gets you 3rd party support and they really can't deal with payments/refunds as they haven't got access to the information.

It should cost you nothing - Use the support ticket system and create a ticket. The link to do that is in Reply #1 above.
Title: Re: Refund?
Post by: REDACTED on February 14, 2017, 09:30:23 AM
I dont believe my initial sign up had an automatic renewal, and its kind of embarrassing when they take the money out of someone elses account when they decide to auto renew on a computer that no longer exists.
Title: Re: Refund?
Post by: Asyn on February 14, 2017, 09:42:37 AM
I dont believe my initial sign up had an automatic renewal, and its kind of embarrassing when they take the money out of someone elses account when they decide to auto renew on a computer that no longer exists.
-> https://www.avast.com/faq.php?article=AVKB24#artTitle (Orders and Renewals)
Title: Re: Refund?
Post by: Eddy on February 14, 2017, 09:53:57 AM
It doesn't matter if the computer still exists or not, nor does it matter avast is still used or not.
It is a subscription and as long is someone doesn't stop it, it will go on if auto-renewal is enabled.

See it as a magazine subscription.
It doesn't matter if you read the magazine or not.
It doesn't matter if you burn it in the stove right after you have received it or use it for the cat toilet.
Title: Re: Refund?
Post by: chris.. on February 14, 2017, 01:03:14 PM

See it as a magazine subscription.
It doesn't matter if you read the magazine or not.
It doesn't matter if you burn it in the stove right after you have received it or use it for the cat toilet.
Except that for the magazine, the subscription (for a period) has been clearly established in advance, and the buyer knows it very well.
The renewal is very different and must be implicitly indicated by the seller.
In some countries such as France, this is not enough, the seller must notify in writing at least 1 month before the renewal
Title: Re: Refund?
Post by: Eddy on February 14, 2017, 01:12:55 PM
It is clearly shown before a person finalizes the the payment.
People do get notifications before the renewal takes place giving them enough time to disable the auto-renewal if they wish to do so.
Title: Re: Refund?
Post by: chris.. on February 15, 2017, 01:10:46 PM
It is clearly shown before a person finalizes the the payment.
Sorry to say you it's not shown for a lot of us.

Personally, I looked closely at my contract last October.
Carefully because I have followed the messages of many users right here.
I wanted to get a clearer idea, and nothing was said about renewal.(no more little "*")
However, by logging in to my account later, auto-renew was enabled, so I turned it off.
Without this early precaution, I was good at seeing my account debited in 1 year, as many users were.
And I repeat, even validated at the time of purchase by the customer, it is illegal in France if the seller does not notify 1 month before payment.
Of course, the case never goes to court, all the returns of the users concerned say they have been repaid.

Now, you can say that I'm a liar and that my eyes were not open enough on the finalization of my payment, but it will not change anything.

Edit:sorry , it's not my topic but good luck to neosimultanic and selini50 , I'm sure they would have preferred that we (simple users) give them items to go chat with avast and get refunds instead of telling them they can not read carefully (even if it's true)
We are not employed so avoid saying things that is not able to prove.
Title: Re: Refund?
Post by: Eddy on February 15, 2017, 01:31:06 PM
It is shown for everyone.
I've checked in several languages on the avast web-shop and it was always shown.

It depends on the country if auto-renewal is by default enabled or not.
Title: Re: Refund?
Post by: bob3160 on February 15, 2017, 01:59:44 PM
(http://screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1487163453815-76830.png)
Clicking on the "More Information" option also gives you a chance to prevent auto renewal at the time of installation.
Title: Re: Refund?
Post by: DavidR on February 15, 2017, 02:21:15 PM
I certainly think that the wording could be much clearer.

Reading that many would go great "Continuous Protection activated." I don't believe they associate it with auto subscription/payment renewal. Having the (More Info) link is a bit of a get out of jail card. I just wonder about the stats that would surely be taken, what number/percentage of people even click on the link.

I don't see why the auto renewal radio button (Yes & No) couldn't be on the page without needing to open a link.

Something else that I have seen very recently, auto renewal seems to be at the full price, no renewal discount and in some cases more expensive than when they first purchased.
Title: Re: Refund?
Post by: bob3160 on February 15, 2017, 02:42:21 PM
I personally had to look twice to realize that Continuous Protection meant
an auto charge for renewal at the end of the current term.
That terminology probably works well for e-commerce. :)

Title: Re: Refund?
Post by: bob3160 on February 15, 2017, 03:37:15 PM
(http://screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1487168926183-5410.png) (https://youtu.be/FGjYUrz2aZU)
https://youtu.be/FGjYUrz2aZU (https://youtu.be/FGjYUrz2aZU)
Very often the best price is available by choosing the Upgrade within  Avast Free.
This also shows you how to de-activate the auto renewal function in the paid version.
Title: Re: Refund?
Post by: DavidR on February 15, 2017, 04:49:30 PM
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Very often the best price is available by choosing the Upgrade within  Avast Free.
This also shows you how to de-activate the auto renewal function in the paid version.

There's that wording (so loved of marketing as you say), "Continuous Protection activated" again.

The only problem I see with this "Continuous Protection" users are unlikely to get renewal/offers from their "Continuous Protection" as they may from the UI. If they take up an offer from the UI or elsewhere there is a likelihood they could have "Continuous Protection activated" twice.

I think that avast really need to take a look at this whole area of "Continuous Protection activated" as it is constantly a source of topics in the forums seeking refunds.