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Title: Subvirt new kind of rootkit
Post by: polonus on March 16, 2006, 10:43:26 AM
Hi forum members,

A rootkit in the form of a virtual machine for Linux and Windows, researchers developed such malware, look here:
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1936666,00.asp

How are we going to defend ourselves? Is this to proof that the Fritz chip or Palladium is inescapable from 64-bit systems onward? By the way some rfid chips now seem to be vulnerable to viruses as well.


polonus

Title: Re: Subvirt new kind of rootkit
Post by: RejZoR on March 16, 2006, 12:42:15 PM
I don't want some go damn chip limiting ME on my OWN machine.
The first moment i see it limiting me i'll sell the PC and buy console.
I'm sick of these asholes with their brilliant ideas that only keep their pockets full of $$$.
No thanks. As for security i'm like an impenetrable fortress. Why the heck i'd want that crap in my rig then? Worms here, spyware there, rootkits over there but i never had any of these to date. 7 years of massive PC usage is enough long to be sure about this.
Title: Re: Subvirt new kind of rootkit
Post by: szc on March 16, 2006, 01:31:25 PM
I don't want some go damn chip limiting ME on my OWN machine.
The first moment i see it limiting me i'll sell the PC and buy console.
I'm sick of these asholes with their brilliant ideas that only keep their pockets full of $$$.
No thanks. As for security i'm like an impenetrable fortress. Why the heck i'd want that crap in my rig then? Worms here, spyware there, rootkits over there but i never had any of these to date. 7 years of massive PC usage is enough long to be sure about this.

Exactly same thoughts and situation in here. I am 100% with you on this one Boris. If you know how you can even run your own system without a resident antivirus protection running and you'll still be ok. Of course it is not recommended especially if you are new in all this, but still... I know some old forum members in here running their systems completely without AV resident module running and they never ever had any problems with anything. They run online and local av scanns on regular basis, have some other small utilities installed to cover all bases, and that's it... sounds impossible ? Well, it's not...
Title: Re: Subvirt new kind of rootkit
Post by: polonus on March 16, 2006, 08:33:29 PM
Right my two good friends. And if you have some good System Monitoring you could stay free of rootkits even, and that for a long time to come.. That is not the point, it is a powerplay at a grand scale. Some want to do it for you, and these 200 big corps know what is good for you on 'your' comp & what should not be there. This could be a policy for chicken that do not know what they are doing, because they use their computers without a head. Bad enough for us they are uneducated, some don't even bother, and form the majority.

The day that everybody turns their old comp into a Linux firewall machine as a m0n0wall with iptables, etables, etc.  so that absolutely nothing can worm-tunnel itself over this firewall box or through, is still far away or may never come. The future as spelled out for us looks " default is beautiful" & "pay per click" and then things look a bit different, and it will be a heavily moderated future. It is going to be "baked" into your motherboards!

polonus