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Title: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: hectic-mmv on April 07, 2017, 04:17:57 PM
Hi all,
we are introducing new beta version 17.4.2292:
 
What's new:
- updated GUI framework CEF to the latest version

This is a huge change with impact on a whole product. Please watch any UI crashes or not working pages.
- offline installation on Win XP without internet connection crashes, this scenario will not be supported anymore


Download links:
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=179943.0


Enjoy this beta!
We are looking forward to your feedback.

AVAST Team
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: NON on April 07, 2017, 04:25:22 PM
Thanks for the new beta! This seems big change. 8)
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: NON on April 07, 2017, 05:04:58 PM
Updated over 17.3.2291 but it looks like nothing has changed ???
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: Alikhan on April 07, 2017, 06:00:27 PM
Updated over 17.3.2291 but it looks like nothing has changed ???

This should fix most of the toaster notification bugs. For example, when a scan completes successfully, the toaster said it was cancelled. That should be fixed now.
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: NON on April 07, 2017, 06:31:24 PM
Updated over 17.3.2291 but it looks like nothing has changed ???

This should fix most of the toaster notification bugs. For example, when a scan completes successfully, the toaster said it was cancelled. That should be fixed now.
I see, thanks for the info. :)

I thought settings screen is finally changed to CEF, but it seems it's not.
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: bruce_b on April 07, 2017, 06:32:46 PM
We can still do installs on XP PRO SP3 using the Full Off Line Installers ? ? And did they or will they fix the Behavior Shield turning itself OFF now and then under XP PRO SP3 ? ? (so far no issues in Win 10 Home 64 Bit) .. Note this did not happen in the last major full release of the Avast Free (I think it started with 17.3.2291 / build 17.3.3443.0)
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: Chim on April 07, 2017, 06:58:17 PM

This is a huge change with impact on a whole product. Please watch any UI crashes or not working pages.
- offline installation on Win XP without internet connection crashes, this scenario will not be supported anymore

AVAST Team
Okay, I'm not understanding.  What scenario will not be supported anymore?
Using the Offline Installer on Windows XP?
Are you saying that right now an Offline Install on Windows XP crashes and that won't be fixed?
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: DavidR on April 07, 2017, 07:38:51 PM
Hi all,
we are introducing new beta version 17.4.2292:
 
What's new:
- updated GUI framework CEF to the latest version

This is a huge change with impact on a whole product. Please watch any UI crashes or not working pages.
- offline installation on Win XP without internet connection crashes, this scenario will not be supported anymore
<snip>

Can you expand on exactly is meant by this:
"offline installation on Win XP without internet connection crashes" Surely this is the whole point of an off-line installer (not needing an internet connection, so why would/does it crash in XP ?

"this scenario will not be supported anymore" exactly what won't be supported ?

I would hate to see the on-line installation being the only option.
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: bruce_b on April 07, 2017, 08:01:26 PM
I would agree, they must keep the full off line installers fully functional for any OS ... If anything kill the use of these idiotic, problematic stub / on line installers. It is much faster for me to spend say 3 minutes downloading the Whole Installer, which I can then run at my convenience either on line or off line, or if I need to reinstall a program at a later time, when the original version might not be around again.
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: Lord_Ami on April 07, 2017, 08:50:38 PM
Is it possible this update (from 2291) reset all my settings? Seems like it.

Otherwise smooth upgrade.
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: hectic-mmv on April 07, 2017, 09:05:48 PM
I would agree, they must keep the full off line installers fully functional for any OS ... If anything kill the use of these idiotic, problematic stub / on line installers. It is much faster for me to spend say 3 minutes downloading the Whole Installer, which I can then run at my convenience either on line or off line, or if I need to reinstall a program at a later time, when the original version might not be around again.

There is limitation only for this case:
- you are running Win XP
- you want to install Avast with offline installer when computer is offline
- if online, everything will work as you are used to

Reason for this is that we want to increase installers size which would be required in this case cauz of ending support of CEF for WinXP.

For other cases, offline installer will work under all circumstances.
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: bruce_b on April 07, 2017, 09:24:39 PM
Clarify: Can I use the OFF LINE INSTALLER on my XP box to install Avast Free in the future ? ? ?
My XP box is connected to internet, but I intensely dislike using Stub Installers
And from what I was told, Avast would not dropping support for XP anytime soon
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: DavidR on April 07, 2017, 10:18:12 PM
<snip>
Reason for this is that we want to increase installers size which would be required in this case cauz of ending support of CEF for WinXP.

For other cases, offline installer will work under all circumstances.

This beta download is 284MB for the free off-line installer, how much larger are we talking about for future updates.

What CEF are you talking about as there are a shed load of CEF acronyms and several relating to computers ?
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: Alikhan on April 07, 2017, 10:22:29 PM
Is it possible this update (from 2291) reset all my settings? Seems like it.

Otherwise smooth upgrade.

Were you previously running the stable build or on the BETA channel?
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: Lord_Ami on April 07, 2017, 10:23:16 PM
Is it possible this update (from 2291) reset all my settings? Seems like it.

Otherwise smooth upgrade.

Were you previously running the stable build or on the BETA channel?
I believe it was beta since it was auto-updated to 2292. Confirmed the same settings reset on my laptop.
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: DavidR on April 07, 2017, 11:28:09 PM
Not sure if this is meant to be part of the design or something is missing in the UI > Status > Account ?

Also the connection to the account is just spinning its wheels I gave up before it connected.

EDIT: Though the View Account button immediately connects to your account in your default browser.
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: alice0775 on April 08, 2017, 02:40:17 AM
updated from 2291 beta to 2292.

However, nothing is fixed the problem ( https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=199732.0 ).

Webshield makes "Connection was reset" when I open router setting page.
Uninstalling(with avastclear.exe) and reinstalling does not help.
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: Asyn on April 08, 2017, 06:07:23 AM
Clarify: Can I use the OFF LINE INSTALLER on my XP box to install Avast Free in the future ? ? ?
My XP box is connected to internet, but I intensely dislike using Stub Installers
As your XP is connected to the net, yes.
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: RejZoR on April 09, 2017, 02:36:05 AM
So, the mentioned overhaul of GUI is just this? A framework update? No added statistics, no fixed shields page or split on-access and on-demand scans. Ugh :(
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: DavidR on April 09, 2017, 09:32:03 AM
So, the mentioned overhaul of GUI is just this? A framework update? No added statistics, no fixed shields page or split on-access and on-demand scans. Ugh :(

I think it has actually got worse, now every time you open the UI it is (massive) in your face centre screen.

Previously that was/something changed and you were able to reposition it and it stayed there, not any more, every time it is opened it goes back to centre screen. It seems every time something is changed, something gets broken.
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: DavidR on April 09, 2017, 07:42:40 PM
Well I have to report that we still have the issue of clicking the Details button (Notifications) after the Smart Scan far from showing the details it starts the bloody smart scan again. And still no Pause button in the scan.

When is this ever going to be resolved !!!

Just what is it that we are meant to be testing in this beta as nothing outstanding appears to have been addressed. Other than this CEF, whatever the hell that is ?

Quote from: hectic-mmv
What's new:
- updated GUI framework CEF to the latest version
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: Alikhan on April 09, 2017, 07:52:47 PM
Well I have to report that we still have the issue of clicking the Details button (Notifications) after the Smart Scan far from showing the details it starts the bloody smart scan again. And still no Pause button in the scan.

When is this ever going to be resolved !!!

Just what is it that we are meant to be testing in this beta as nothing outstanding appears to have been addressed. Other than this CEF, whatever the hell that is ?

Quote from: hectic-mmv
What's new:
- updated GUI framework CEF to the latest version

Clicking the Details button (Notifications) after the Smart Scan far from showing the details it starts the bloody smart scan again. = It's a known bug and will be fixed.

Regarding the pause button, that isn't certain to come back. They are considering to bring it back but not very likely.

The stats will be rather later than sooner and so will the scan information (+pause button) if they decide to bring it back.

CEF (Chromium Embedded Framework) is the framework that the UI runs on. That includes the toaster and everything related to the UI. It's used for online content on the UI too as far as I am aware. The latest version of CEF will fix the UI and toaster bugs such as when the scan is reported as cancelled by the toaster, whereas, it actually completes successfully.

There is still rather a few fixes that's left to do with CEF within the UI.

Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: DavidR on April 09, 2017, 08:01:46 PM
Here we are in another beta and known issue or not, this has been going on for absolutely ages, I kind of hoped beta were for testing old problems that have been fixed. There seems to be less and less going on in the beta/s, it begs the question, what is the point.

I have never been one for stats the original one that got removed had too little information to be particularly useful.

At last an answer about CEF (given there are many computer related acronyms for it), thanks. Previously I never suffered the 99% or scan cancelled issue on this system.
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: Asyn on April 10, 2017, 06:53:51 AM
This is a huge change with impact on a whole product. Please watch any UI crashes or not working pages.
Well, no crahes here, but no bug fixes either...
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: Asyn on April 10, 2017, 06:54:56 AM
Well I have to report that we still have the issue of clicking the Details button (Notifications) after the Smart Scan far from showing the details it starts the bloody smart scan again. And still no Pause button in the scan.
Confirmed.
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: warlock on April 10, 2017, 05:29:10 PM
So, the mentioned overhaul of GUI is just this? A framework update? No added statistics, no fixed shields page or split on-access and on-demand scans. Ugh :(
+1 and it's still mindbogglingly slooooooooooow to load.
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: DavidR on April 10, 2017, 06:19:34 PM
So, the mentioned overhaul of GUI is just this? A framework update? No added statistics, no fixed shields page or split on-access and on-demand scans. Ugh :(
+1 and it's still mindbogglingly slooooooooooow to load.

There is also a lot of people using 17.3.2291 and XP SP3 having issued with the UI not even loading, more and more topics. I didn't suffer this issue in 17..2291 or this 17.4.2291 beta.

I don't see anything in the initial posts about any fixes:
Are there any and would it include the UI not loading error on XP SP3.
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: cristianojgm on April 11, 2017, 12:12:42 AM
What day will they correct this fault here? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGUQm6XKf-Y&t=623s
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: DavidR on April 11, 2017, 12:34:56 AM
What day will they correct this fault here? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGUQm6XKf-Y&t=623s

This really should have been in its own topic in the viruses and worms forum. This is a program beta topic and viruses/malware are handled outside of the program version itself.

I can't see avast specifying a particular day (they would first have to have a sample/s).

I also haven't any idea what it is you are trying to have them correct, the video in itself aside from the language is long. so I don't watch it through. Presumably you ran some samples in a VM environment, checked by hitman pro and then by avast.

Any samples that weren't detected should be sent directly to avast for analysis and inclusion (if conformed) in the virus definitions update.
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: Lord_Ami on April 16, 2017, 08:43:32 AM
For me, Passwords page does not load... I'll try reinstall later on.
W8.1 x64, Estonian language UI. Same with UK English.
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: Lord_Ami on April 17, 2017, 04:02:42 PM
For me, Passwords page does not load... I'll try reinstall later on.
W8.1 x64, Estonian language UI. Same with UK English.

Seems like clean reinstall helped (uninstall, restart, avastclear, restart - install).
Previously I added it from Components menu (not during install).
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: Para-Noid on April 18, 2017, 11:42:53 PM
1) I have been a loyal avast users for a number of years.
2) avast has saved my butt more than once.
3) Looking forward to some real fixes.

From what I read here there are no real fixes to be found here.
It seems avast released a beta just so they can say they released a new beta.

I'll pass on this beta(?).
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: Eddy on April 18, 2017, 11:58:56 PM
I wonder when avast is ever gonna learn.
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: alice0775 on April 19, 2017, 01:38:53 AM
Nothing is fixed.
The problem still persists. https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=199715.msg1382229#msg1382229
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: bruce_b on April 19, 2017, 01:56:32 PM
The management and coders, will never learn to do what the users want them to do. Like resizing the installer and main option windows. Or to stop releasing BETA versions every couple of weeks. It is better to have major releases done either quarterly or twice yearly. This will give the coders and testers time to get all the bugs out.

I also have a question as they say Avast will stop support for XP in a couple of years. Okay, but will we still be able to get the Definitions update for the last version installed that does work on XP after XP support is dropped ? ? ?
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: Asyn on April 19, 2017, 02:15:24 PM
Okay, but will we still be able to get the Definitions update for the last version installed that does work on XP after XP support is dropped ? ? ?
Sure.
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: seeksurf on April 19, 2017, 11:58:23 PM
 :( This Beta version has not solved the UI issue for me in Windows XP SP3.............same problem, that AV service either failed to load or not responding.

I have uninstalled and reinstalled so many different ways now and yet nothing has worked re this problem which makes the computer impossible to scan.

I have for now migrated to another AV on my XP pc, with huge reluctance after 10 years of Avast use.

SS
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: DavidR on April 20, 2017, 12:39:02 AM
There are a whole lot of issues that haven't even been addressed in this beta.

I certainly think that it is due an update after almost 13 days, to have addressed some of the outstanding issues from earlier versions.
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: Patrick2 on April 20, 2017, 02:57:55 AM
Plus Address Any issues that came up since Creators update release in Windows 10 would be nice

I experienced this other day

turned off shields for 1 hour, then reeanbled them as didn't really help eject usb drive that didn't wanna eject lol,  anyways webshield refused to turn back on, after a reboot it did though

Sure with a new OS release, there is gonna be a few bugs, so i'm living with it, keeping Avast in, as I tried defender a few times, and definitely don't like it, plus it's scans so slow compared to Avast lol,  Sunday planning on whole system major full scan, all externals connected, flash drives, making sure system clean as Comcast Gateway modem somehow ends up on hard reset, or standard reset with utopia.net dns suffix lol, Comcast says to check machines for Malware, though I think its on there end as I checked with wifi inspector, scanned each machine in boot scan, nothing found so far, (but might recheck with all drives connected to this one Sunday)

Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: katyahope on May 30, 2017, 12:07:29 AM
This is Bullshit. I pay good money for not only protection against DNS hijacking, but also, I EXPECT AVAST TO KNOW CURRENT THREATS AND WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE COMPUTER WORLD.

OPEN QUESTION TO AVAST.COM STAFF: WHAT IS THIS UTOPIA.NET, WHERE DOES IT COME FROM, AND HOW DO WE REMOVE IT?

I recommended avast to dozens of people. Maybe I should start recommending another antivirus and internet security company.

NOT Happy,
KH
Title: Re: Avast Beta 17.4.2292
Post by: Eddy on May 30, 2017, 12:22:02 AM
Post in the correct forum and provide the log files > https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=194892.0