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Title: AVAST FREE ANTIVIRUS & MALWAREBYTES PREMIUM
Post by: REDACTED on May 12, 2017, 11:51:13 PM

I have Avast Free Antivirus and Malwarebytes Premium 3.0.6.

I understand that both have some similar functions, however both have different methods.

Please:

1) What exactly are these similar and different functions that each software has?

2) Is out there any other software providing a security/protection function that both software don't?

3) Windows firewall is enough? Or a third-party is needed?

Thank you!
Title: Re: AVAST FREE ANTIVIRUS & MALWAREBYTES PREMIUM
Post by: Eddy on May 12, 2017, 11:56:34 PM
1) read the avast and malwarebytes website.

2) There is McShield (amongst several others)

3) A good hardware firewall is the best. If you want to use a software firewall, make sure it also has outbound scanning.
Title: Re: AVAST FREE ANTIVIRUS & MALWAREBYTES PREMIUM
Post by: REDACTED on May 13, 2017, 12:19:54 AM
1) read the avast and malwarebytes website.

2) There is McShield (amongst several others)

3) A good hardware firewall is the best. If you want to use a software firewall, make sure it also has outbound scanning.


1) I already read, didn't understand clearly... that's the reason I'm here asking.

2) Please, could you detail the McShield function, that Avast Free Antivirus and Malwarebytes as a combo doesn't have?
And, what are the "several others"? What functions the several others have, that Avast & MWB as a combo doesn't have?

Thanks a lot!
Title: Re: AVAST FREE ANTIVIRUS & MALWAREBYTES PREMIUM
Post by: Pondus on May 13, 2017, 02:10:13 AM
MCShield USB Protection  >>  http://www.mcshield.net/

Reviews (click and read)  >>  http://www.mcshield.net/reviews.html

16 pages with FAQ  >>  https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=104046

and more  >>  https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=196168


Title: Re: AVAST FREE ANTIVIRUS & MALWAREBYTES PREMIUM
Post by: REDACTED on May 13, 2017, 02:31:45 AM
MCShield USB Protection  >>  http://www.mcshield.net/

Reviews (click and read)  >>  http://www.mcshield.net/reviews.html

16 pages with FAQ  >>  https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=104046

and more  >>  https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=196168


Thank you Pondus!

Please, could you just point, what function McShield has, that Avast & MWB doen't have as a combo?

And I repeat my 3 original simple questions:

1) What exactly are the similar and different functions/options that Avast Free Antivirus VS Malwarebytes Premium have?

2) Is out there any other software providing a security/protection function that both software don't? With which different function/option?

3) Windows firewall is enough? Or a third-party is needed?

Thank you!
Title: Re: AVAST FREE ANTIVIRUS & MALWAREBYTES PREMIUM
Post by: Eddy on May 13, 2017, 02:50:12 AM
Stop asking and start reading/learning.
Title: Re: AVAST FREE ANTIVIRUS & MALWAREBYTES PREMIUM
Post by: REDACTED on May 13, 2017, 02:07:11 PM
Stop asking and start reading/learning.

I understand that most of the people ask before read/learn. But, is not my case.
I already read and tried to learn before asking.
Sadly, I am not a genius and have to ask.
I posted same questions in other tech forums and received lot of help, excellent answers, positive feedback etc. I can see my questions are useful.

By the way, sometimes simple questions have simple answers, without need to read/learn an encyclopedia. For example, when talking about MCShield, just mentioning that is an "USB or external drive protection"... would be more than enough! (instead sending tons of pages for reading/learning).
Some replies without simple answers, just commanding people to read/learn... usually indicates lack of knowledge of the own replier.

I appreciate your help, but don't lose your time with me, because I will continue to ask whatever need to ask.
Title: Re: AVAST FREE ANTIVIRUS & MALWAREBYTES PREMIUM
Post by: Eddy on May 13, 2017, 02:10:04 PM
See replies #1, #3 and #5
Title: Re: AVAST FREE ANTIVIRUS & MALWAREBYTES PREMIUM
Post by: REDACTED on May 13, 2017, 02:51:21 PM
I have Malwarebytes Premium 3.0.6 and Avast Free Antivirus.

I understand that both have some similar functions, however both have different methods.

Please:

1) What exactly are these similar and different functions that each software has?

2) Is out there any other software providing a security/protection function that both software don't?

3) Windows firewall is enough? Or a third-party is needed?

Thank you!
Title: Re: AVAST FREE ANTIVIRUS & MALWAREBYTES PREMIUM
Post by: CraigB on May 13, 2017, 03:01:55 PM
I believe you've been given a few links that will provide much information for you, on top of that Malwarebytes can detect things that Avast might miss and visa versa.

Malwarebytes is also on stable 3.1 build as of a few days ago and more information about Malwarebytes can be found on their forum.

imo Windows firewall is adequate and simplest but as everyone needs are different opinions will vary.
Title: Re: AVAST FREE ANTIVIRUS & MALWAREBYTES PREMIUM
Post by: REDACTED on May 13, 2017, 03:23:56 PM
I believe you've been given a few links that will provide much information for you, on top of that Malwarebytes can detect things that Avast might miss and visa versa.

Malwarebytes is also on stable 3.1 build as of a few days ago and more information about Malwarebytes can be found on their forum.

imo Windows firewall is adequate and simplest but as everyone needs are different opinions will vary.

Thank you CraigB for your answer.
I appreciated the links I received. However:
1) Those links are totally partial, and don't answer most part of my questions.
2) Before asking, I already read most of those links. I am looking for a comparison answer, and those links compare nothing!
3) Respectfully, I believe that "the last word" about "be answered or not"... is only mine. I didn't expect such much bulling in this forum. I am copying some answers here and posting in other forums... let's show future Avast users that they can't use Avast forum.

Now, regarding your answer:
I don't have questions about security/detection methods.
My only questions are about functions/options/features, similar or different, of Avast Free Antivirus & MWB.

Thanks again
Title: Re: AVAST FREE ANTIVIRUS & MALWAREBYTES PREMIUM
Post by: CraigB on May 13, 2017, 03:30:48 PM
As mentioned, questions about other security products should be directed to their relevant forums as they know more about their own products obviously and can answer your questions better, we are not a comparison website hence the name "Avast Forum"
Title: Re: AVAST FREE ANTIVIRUS & MALWAREBYTES PREMIUM
Post by: REDACTED on May 13, 2017, 03:34:20 PM
As mentioned, questions about other security products should be directed to their relevant forums as they know more about their own products obviously and can answer your questions better, we are not a comparison website hence the name "Avast Forum"

Hummmm... very strange answer, considering that I found lot of product comparison in this Avast forum.
But thank you anyway.
Title: Re: AVAST FREE ANTIVIRUS & MALWAREBYTES PREMIUM
Post by: CraigB on May 13, 2017, 03:37:22 PM
I think you would be better to ask somewhere such as Wilders Security Forums.
Title: Re: AVAST FREE ANTIVIRUS & MALWAREBYTES PREMIUM
Post by: REDACTED on May 13, 2017, 03:43:11 PM
I think you would be better to ask somewhere such as Wilders Security Forums.

CraigB, thanks a lot for the tip.
As I mentioned in other comments above (yesterday), I posted my questions in other tech forums (including MWB forum)... and I received excellent answers.
Here at Avast Forum, I am negative surprised, with some arrogant and dictatorship bulling attitudes.
But again, thank you for your time and help.
Title: Re: AVAST FREE ANTIVIRUS & MALWAREBYTES PREMIUM
Post by: CraigB on May 13, 2017, 04:02:08 PM
I'm not bullying you, answers were given to your questions and it's now up to you to search and read that information, there are areas where Avast and Malwarebytes differ and some where they overlap but both use different techniques.

I don't have any further information which is why I advised to ask on the Wilders forum as they are a security discussion forum and likely you'll find your answers already mentioned somewhere there.
Title: Re: AVAST FREE ANTIVIRUS & MALWAREBYTES PREMIUM
Post by: REDACTED on May 13, 2017, 04:31:50 PM
I'm not bullying you, answers were given to your questions and it's now up to you to search and read that information, there are areas where Avast and Malwarebytes differ and some where they overlap but both use different techniques.

I don't have any further information which is why I advised to ask on the Wilders forum as they are a security discussion forum and likely you'll find your answers already mentioned somewhere there.

I repeat:
1) My comment about "bullying" does not refer to your person.
2) The final word about if I was answered or not... is only mine. Is my prerogative!
3) Yes, I received links and few replies, however, nothing answered my questions. In the best case, these replies answered my questions in a very partial way.
3) Most of the replies I received, were just wrong, out of the focus, or were links & info I already knew.
4) I didn't asked about security/protection techniques or methods. I asked just about features/functions/options comparison.
5) I still appreciate all the links/replies I received, even were wrong or out of the focus.

Sadly, my questions here were not answered.
Who knows, I still wait someone with the right answers.
I love Avast Free Antivirus, I found in this forum excellent answers... so, I still keep my questions open, waiting for someone with knowledge to answer me:

1) What exactly are the similar or different functions/options/features that Avast Free Antivirus and MWB have?

2) Is out there any other security/protection function/option/feature that both software don't have?
Title: Re: AVAST FREE ANTIVIRUS & MALWAREBYTES PREMIUM
Post by: Eddy on May 13, 2017, 04:55:30 PM
Question 2 was already answered in reply #1

For question 1 you need to go and read the websites of the developers.
What functions/options/features each one has is explained on them.
Title: Re: AVAST FREE ANTIVIRUS & MALWAREBYTES PREMIUM
Post by: REDACTED on May 13, 2017, 05:36:46 PM
Malwarebytes 3 Premium is advertised as an Antivirus, as it includes other Malwarebytes products like Anti-Exploit and Ransomware protection, that were previously standalone and run alongside Malwarebytes Anti-Malware v2.

The latest version is 3.1.x
https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topic/200634-malwarebytes-31-now-available/

In my personal opinion, you shouldn't need Malwarebytes 3 Premium if you are using Avast Free Antivirus on Windows 10 Creators Update. What OS do you use?


3. Windows Firewall on Windows 7 SP1 or later is sufficient, but better if behind a hardware firewall, which can be found on your Router and enabled by default.

You can fine-tune Windows Firewall for each program, but requires  manual labour and know-how. I believe Wilders Security Forums have a guide for this (since Vista released).

I may be wrong here, but...
For Outbound Protection, a lightweight third party app can help, but for advanced protection a Firewall with Proactive features (ie. HIPS, IPS etc) can be found in Comodo Firewall and similar.

And a bit Off-Topic:
Theoretically, you should be running Windows 10 Creators Update for the best that Microsoft can offer in terms of Security, Performance and Stability.
Title: Re: AVAST FREE ANTIVIRUS & MALWAREBYTES PREMIUM
Post by: CraigB on May 13, 2017, 05:49:07 PM
Malwarebytes 3 Premium is advertised as an Antivirus
Actually Malwarebytes is advertised as Anti-Malware, it can detect viruses on a certain level but definitely not as efficient as a typical AV, when Malwarebytes is run in conjunction with an AV it is supposed to give first detection preference to the AV but it's still recommended on the Malwarebytes forum that exclusions must be put in place as Malwarebytes now covers more areas with it's anti exploit and ransomware detection so the chances of conflicts are much more likely if exclusions aren't placed between the two products.
Title: Re: AVAST FREE ANTIVIRUS & MALWAREBYTES PREMIUM
Post by: REDACTED on May 13, 2017, 06:05:49 PM
Malwarebytes 3 Premium is advertised as an Antivirus, as it includes other Malwarebytes products like Anti-Exploit and Ransomware protection, that were previously standalone and run alongside Malwarebytes Anti-Malware v2.

The latest version is 3.1.x
https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topic/200634-malwarebytes-31-now-available/

In my personal opinion, you shouldn't need Malwarebytes 3 Premium if you are using Avast Free Antivirus on Windows 10 Creators Update. What OS do you use?


3. Windows Firewall on Windows 7 SP1 or later is sufficient, but better if behind a hardware firewall, which can be found on your Router and enabled by default.

You can fine-tune Windows Firewall for each program, but requires  manual labour and know-how. I believe Wilders Security Forums have a guide for this (since Vista released).

I may be wrong here, but...
For Outbound Protection, a lightweight third party app can help, but for advanced protection a Firewall with Proactive features (ie. HIPS, IPS etc) can be found in Comodo Firewall and similar.

And a bit Off-Topic:
Theoretically, you should be running Windows 10 Creators Update for the best that Microsoft can offer in terms of Security, Performance and Stability.

Good answer Spawn! Thanks.

My OS is Windows 10 Creator (last update).
Due to my work, I am very exposed to virus/malwares etc.
Avast Free Antivirus was my choice after comparing with the major antivirus out here. For me, was the perfect balance between reasonable security and very low system impact.
I kept my Malwarebytes, first because the zero impact in my system, and second because the 180° different method/strategy/focus compared with classical antivirus.

Both, Avast & MWB seem to work perfectly in my system.
I excluded both software in each configuration, in order to avoid conflicts.

However, despite I read a lot, I still can't distinguish in detail, if there are functions/options/features overlapping in these two software.
Also, I don't know if I still need another security feature out from these two software.

Regarding the firewall, I also thought about Comodo. I had great experience with it, specially blocking lots of "phone home" etc that Windows Firewall doesn't block.
However, don't know exactly why, Comodo firewall is heavy on my system. That's the reason I asked about firewalls.

I posted my questions in other tech forums, and I am receiving very interesting answers. A nerd guy at MWB forum offered me to write a comparison between Avast & MWB. I will wait for it. I also will keep open my questions here in the Avast Forum, until receive complete answers.

Thank you Spawn
Title: Re: AVAST FREE ANTIVIRUS & MALWAREBYTES PREMIUM
Post by: mchain on May 13, 2017, 08:41:18 PM
Yes, and I think you've got the right idea:  Go to multiple forums to get what you need.   ;D

What we all focus upon here is avast pretty much and only avast.  It is our area of specialty.  Ask any question you wish about avast and we will try to help.   :)
Title: Re: AVAST FREE ANTIVIRUS & MALWAREBYTES PREMIUM
Post by: REDACTED on May 13, 2017, 09:40:12 PM
Yes, and I think you've got the right idea:  Go to multiple forums to get what you need.   ;D

What we all focus upon here is avast pretty much and only avast.  It is our area of specialty.  Ask any question you wish about avast and we will try to help.   :)

Hi Mchain,

Before posting my questions, I took a general look over the Avast Forum, and found people with different knowledge level, lots of post talking about other products or product comparisons etc. So, honestly, I believe some guys here exaggerated a little today with the bullying. Not to mention the ridiculous belief of some bad repliers, thinking that only them can determine if a question was answered or not, or worst, menacing me on banning me (only because I kept my questions as unanswered). I felt in North Korea (lol)

Anyway, accepting your kind suggestion, and talking "just only about Avast Free Antivirus": Could you please list the security features that Avast Free Antivirus lacks? I know what Avast FA has, and I also know the Avast product comparison. However, I don't know the security features comparison between Avast FA and the market (specially what Avast FA lacks).

Thanks in advance for offering me your help!
Title: Re: AVAST FREE ANTIVIRUS & MALWAREBYTES PREMIUM
Post by: Eddy on May 13, 2017, 09:51:30 PM
Quote
thinking that only them can determine if a question was answered or not, or worst, menacing me on banning me
Well, question 3 was answered in reply #1.
If you don't understand it, it doesn't mean it wasn't answered.
For the other two we pointed you to the places where you can find the answer.

There is a reason why this forum is called "Avast Free Antivirus / Pro Antivirus / Internet Security/ Premier" and not " we will do your homework".
It is real easy.
Get two pieces of paper and a pen.
Write at the top of one "avast" and on the other one "malwarebytes"
Visit and read the developers websites.
Write down on each piece of paper what the respective software can/does etc.
Hold them next to each other and see what the differences are/what they do have in common.
Title: Re: AVAST FREE ANTIVIRUS & MALWAREBYTES PREMIUM
Post by: DavidR on May 13, 2017, 10:50:20 PM
<snip guote>

Before posting my questions, I took a general look over the Avast Forum, and found people with different knowledge level, lots of post talking about other products or product comparisons etc.

So, honestly, I believe some guys here exaggerated a little today with the bullying. Not to mention the ridiculous belief of some bad repliers, thinking that only them can determine if a question was answered or not, or worst, menacing me on banning me (only because I kept my questions as unanswered). I felt in North Korea (lol)
<snip>

1.  Looking at historical topics, isn't the same, previously there was no specific section of the forum to talk about other non avast security software. Now there is and its point is to contain it in the one place, this not only makes it easier to find, but doesn't detract from the true purpose of the Avast Free Antivirus / Pro Antivirus / Internet Security/ Premier forum, discussing issues, etc. about the Avast for windows antivirus product range.

2.  If you were in North Korea this probably wouldn't be a problem as internet censoring would probably have blocked access the the avast forum location :)
Title: Re: AVAST FREE ANTIVIRUS & MALWAREBYTES PREMIUM
Post by: Asyn on May 13, 2017, 10:57:40 PM
If you were in North Korea this probably wouldn't be a problem as internet censoring would probably have blocked access the the avast forum location :)
+1 ;D 8)