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Title: Avast + add'lr anti programs installed, now avast can't scan properly
Post by: RichmondRed on April 08, 2006, 08:17:46 PM
Hi from Richmond VA where the problems are abound this morning  :(  Right out the gate, I have to say, I LOVE Avast! and believe there is ABSOLUTELY not one thing on the market that's better!!! I've even swung die hard clients :-\ from AVG (of which I was one as well) to avast and all are thrilled with the protection it offers. ;D

I'm at a lost and hoping you guys have the answers.  Here is a rundown of what I know my system contains.  I'm sorry I don't know about the motherboard, etc.

My OS is Win2000/Pro, AMD processor, not sure of the speed as this was just recently put together for me from "bare bones."  What I do know as told to me, "Red, its definitely a bit above a Petinum III processor."  No modem at all, only ethernet card as I have DSL.  2 separate and not partitioned hard drives as I'm a writer and 1 is designated for that purpose only while, of course, c: drive is used for everything else.  It was to have been an external harddrive but from some reason was made internal.  A CD-R not RW as I thought it would be but who's complaining, I'm thrilled to have a working computer again AND it was FREE!! :o 8)  I'm using a standard 3 button mouse with no installed info on the computer. 256 MB RAM-sure wanted more but again its free--6.0 GB on hard drive which on c: I have 4.67 free and d: drive (the book drive) still has 6.0 GB appear

Having said all that, here comes the problem I'm now experiencing since yesterday:

1.  First thing installed was my Avast Home Edition 4.6--ran scan. no sweat - worked like a dream.
 
2.  Ran all updates for my Win2000/Pro Edition-again, no problems encountered.

3.  Downloaded and installed Spyware Doctor 3.8.0.1557--**NOTE:  This is the initial start of the problem I believe.  It would freeze way more than it should and wouldn't launch from the system tray icon, I performed a "fix" as instructed and its been working great ever since**
 


**NOTE:  This just happened, a message appeared that advised:  "You are running low on virtual memory.  Some applications may not....something, something, didn't get it all and it wouldn't let me copy and paste but thought I'd better put that in here now for you.  I want you to have as clear a pix as possible as to what is going on.**

4.  Next downloaded and installed "Windows Defender Beta 2" version.  Had a horrible time getting it to install.  Found a "fix" to an error msg. regarding system requiring GDI+.  This was resolved, I thought it installed perfectly but found in the system tray, its icon.  The icon was "grayed out."  I'm now getting ready to remove this software.  It seems to be more trouble than its worth for what its suppose to do.  If you disagree, please advise.

5.  Next, ran my Avast! found -zero- infections, etc. - ran perfectly - no sweat! ;)

6.  Last night, after researching a lot, I thought for additional protection, I would download and install, Lavasoft's Ad Aware SE Personal, version 1.06. ran the scan, it found 16 "low threats" and they were quarantined but not removed.
:(

7.  The last 2 things and giving all to you in order was my MSN and Yahoo Messenger, all working perfectly.

7.  NOW, here it comes.  I ran my avast last night around 2300 hours and all went fine.  I had set "Defender" to scan @ 0100, so no conflict.  Here is what I found in the log viewer under the heading:  >:( ERROR

Date & Time - System - Application: 496 - AAVM initialization error:  Unhandled exception in Aavmp... can't get the rest to show in order to complete the error message for you.

ALSO, and I'm hoping you can tell me where I can find this.  My niece who now lives with me left a note this morning that read:  "Left up results of virus scan.  Ad ware files conflict with avast."  Sure enough I was seeing a boatload of results basically all reading the same with wording of WINNT/Lavasoft. 

I accidentally click the x and closed it and cannot remember the terminology used.  I ran another scan hoping it would again appear.  However, my scan ran for over 1 hour 32 mins when just last night it took only 39 mins as I timed it.  All the programs as I've described that are now installed were on the system EXCEPT for the Ad Ware from Lavasoft.


Are you aware of any conflict between my home version of Avast! and Lavasoft's Ad Aware SE Program or any reported conflicts with any programs you see I've downloaded and installed? 

Could the order the software was downloaded and installed have anything to do with this?  The only program that didn't properly download and installed, even after the "fix" was Windows Defender Beta2.  Remember the grayed out icon in the system tray?  I've always been under the impression an installation is not correct or a portion of it didn't make it in the install should the icon be grayed out?

Does any of this sound familiar with your experience?  Has anything been reported to y'all that could apply to my situation?  Could you advise (FREE) software such as yours that would be a good combination for computer security?  I'd be forever grateful. 

I'm so at a loss as to what I can do.  I thought I knew about computers--I don't know squat and definitely need your help.  I'm a newbie writer but I wouldn't even consider getting started with my new book as long as I'm not sure my computer is protected and safe.

I look forward to hearing and learning from you soon.  Thank you so very much.

RED
Have a good one!
Title: Re: Avast + add'lr anti programs installed, now avast can't scan properly
Post by: mauserme on April 08, 2006, 11:38:23 PM
Hi Red,

Avast! and Ad Aware should run fine together.

The problem may be the low memory which would be made that much worse with Windows Defender (its pretty memory intensive).  Have you followed through with your idea about uninstalling it and, if so, has that helped?

Also, although I haven't used Spyware Doctor I wonder if its "free to scan/pay to remove" approach to spyware is worthwhile.

The "standard approach", if there is such a thing, to adware/spyware prevention and removal is Ad Aware, Spybot Search and Destroy, and Spyware Blaster.  All are free, well respected, and have a proven track record for compatibility with avast!.

http://www.lavasoft.de/software/adaware/
http://www.safer-networking.org/
http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html

Title: Re: Avast + add'lr anti programs installed, now avast can't scan properly
Post by: RichmondRed on April 10, 2006, 07:38:35 PM
Mauserme,
Thank you so much for replying so quickly. ;D  and Yep, I did remove the Defender from the control panel and did not reinstall it. To tell you the truth, after performing the "fix" regarding Spyware Doctor not launching from the icon AND removing Defender, I thought my troubles were over...not so fast Red!

I then went to PCPitstop and ran a scan.  Defrag was a major issue and of course I forgot about that being a "new" computer, at least to me :D  Performed the defrag, did again install the Spyware Doctor because like a dummy I purchased the software.  I swear Mauserme, after doing so much research concerning it, I truly thought this was the best route to go.  I guess that's how we learn, huh? :'(  I'm thinking seriously about chucking the software purchase and going with Spyware Blaster.

At this point, I'm not thinking about the money spent on Spyware Doctor although I should.  What my primary concern is the fact I really need to get rolling on my book.  Truth be told, I'm terrified I could lose everything like I did before when the older system just went belly up.

Mauserme, is there anyway to find out, perhaps previous testing, not sure, concerning the compatibility of Spyware Doctor with Avast?  Can a request be made to have it tested?  How do those things work?  To be quite honest, it seems to be working great with Avast since the Defender wasn't reinstall. 


Now, check this out:  Last night, the following appeared and please forgive the verbage as I don't remember the exact wording but sure you're familiar with it:

"Windows has detected low virtual memory.  Use of some applications will be denied."

Could this possibly have anything to do with my avast reinstallation or do you think (which frankly, I do) Windows Defender program caused this?  Can it be fixed?


In this system, I now have a CD Burner, which I'll be learning, never EVER used one before which has the Nero program.  I also have a completely separate drive (D:) for the book's research information, pix, manuscripts, etc.  Having said that, here's another question for you:


My Avast covers EVERYTHING on my computer-- C,D, drives etc right? I'm asking this because of the fact that they are not shared drives and to the best of my knowledge are not partitioned either.  Both my c and d drives only have 6GB each not much granted but I'm hoping that I can do more than 1 book utilizing d: drive only. What are your thoughts on this?

I can't thank you enough for sharing your knowledge and helping me.  I'm looking forward to  learning more from you.

Have a good one!
RED



Title: Re: Avast + add'lr anti programs installed, now avast can't scan properly
Post by: Spiritsongs on April 10, 2006, 08:05:45 PM
 :)  Hi Red :

     You seem inclined installing "beta" and/or brand new
     "version(s)", like the week-old Spyware Doctor. From my
      experience, Ad-Aware combined with SpywareBlaster from
     www.javacoolsoftware.com do what Spyware Doctor does,
     so I feel you do not need Spyware Doctor.
     Have seen no mention of a firewall, free or otherwise !?
     
     As to your Ad-Aware scans, if those 16 "low-threat"
     are only ( tracking ) cookies and/or Alexa, they can be
     deleted without the need of "quarantine".

     And to "complement" antivirus & antispyware protection,
     should have "Ewido" from www.ewido.net/en ; this
     program "specializes" in trojan, worm, etc detection &
     removal that the other 2 "categories" are not as strong.
     There is a tutorial at www.greyknight17.com/spy/Tutorials/ewidoQuickGuide.pdf .
Title: Re: Avast + add'lr anti programs installed, now avast can't scan properly
Post by: mauserme on April 11, 2006, 05:21:16 AM
like a dummy I purchased the software. I swear Mauserme, after doing so much research concerning it, I truly thought this was the best route to go.
Hi Red,

I'm not saying Spyware Doctor is a bad program - just not the route I've taken.  I did a quick forum search on Spyware Doctor and found that there are quite a few users but nothing about any serious compatibility problems (just a few update issues, etc).  Since you've already made the purchase and it seems to be running well now, it makes sense to stick with it for awhile.  If you find over time you like it, keep it.  If not you can always unistall it later.

Truth be told, I'm terrified I could lose everything like I did before when the older system just went belly up.

You need to run regular back ups.  There is no program or comination of programs that can give you a 100% safety guarantee, so protect your work by backing up with that cd burner.

Now, check this out: Last night, the following appeared and please forgive the verbage as I don't remember the exact wording but sure you're familiar with it:

"Windows has detected low virtual memory. Use of some applications will be denied."

I'm not sure if you mean you still get this error after removing Windows Defender.  If you do, you might need to install more ram depending on the other programs you are running.

My Avast covers EVERYTHING on my computer-- C,D, drives etc right?

Avast! will look at files you open from any drive.  You can also set the on-demand scan for any or all drives.

Both my c and d drives only have 6GB each not much granted but I'm hoping that I can do more than 1 book utilizing d: drive only. What are your thoughts on this?

That's going to depend on the length of the book, amount of graphics, etc.  Pure text will take a lot less space than a book that's illustrated.  If you find storage getting tight you could try an external hard drive assuming you have a free usb port, or you could install a larger d: drive (its not hard at all).


By the way, what Spiritsongs said about Ewido and a firewall is good advice.  Zone Alarm Free is one of the easiest firewalls to set up, though they all take a little patience.

And you know, once you're published I'll need to get a signed edition.
Title: Re: Avast + add'lr anti programs installed, now avast can't scan properly
Post by: Wulf on April 11, 2006, 10:44:41 AM
Hi Red,
Regarding your memory issues, I had a AMD Duron with processor speed of 1100 and 250 MB Ram, Windows 98SE and ran Avast, Ad Aware, Spyware Doctor, and Spybot Search and Destroy, along with a Sygate 5.5 Firewall. I can recall during scanning with Avast mainly, that I would run out of memory and the program would crawl and then freeze. These weren't the only programs on the system, There were others that would run at startup, and sit in the memory waiting to be started.
I found this little gem http://www.amsn.ro/index.php?action=8 and loaded it in.
What a difference! And there is a Free version. You can tweak things up with it , but the help file is minimal and you will have to feel you way with it.
To begin with leave the Memory Manager on it's Default setting and see how things run. 
In the main Interface, under General click Fast Options, then More Options, and where it says System Tray Support, click  Digits, Save on your way out and you will see a Icon in your system tray displaying the amount of current ram. As you use your programs you will be able to see how much is available from your 250MB. When it gets below 5% this little beauty will force a clean up and make more available to the program. See if this is of any help. You could try Win Patrol also, uses minimal system resources and don't need to scan.  Get it here http://www.winpatrol.com/
Title: Re: Avast + add'lr anti programs installed, now avast can't scan properly
Post by: RichmondRed on April 11, 2006, 07:21:55 PM
Hey gang,
Wow Wulf, love that idea!  Thank you so much.  As soon as I'm done here, I'm going to be heading to that site right away! ;) Mauserme and Spiritsongs, thank you so very much for the time you've invested in helping me. :)

I know I'm a new writer coming out the gate, but I swear to y'all, sometimes there just aren't enough words or the proper ones to convey how much something means--case in point is right here! I've put off doing anything, except long hand that is, regarding the book until I was absolutely sure, in my mind and with y'all's expertise, my new baby was up to snuff so to speak. 

I've had 2 very old computers to go belly up on me and STILL containing partial manuscripts. :o  Ironically, the entire time I thought I was completely protected.  How wrong I was! :'(  Thanks to you guys, I've got my confidence back and as soon as these babies are downloaded and installed, I'm going to wait just a bit longer and make sure all are working properly.  Then its time for Red to rock 'n roll and get back to work!! Woohoo!! I can hardly wait--no lie!  One last thing:   Its a safe bet that if these new installations don't act right, I'm coming back to the "Varsity Squad!"  ;) :) 

Again, thank you all so very much for your time, effort, and caring.  ;D !!YOU ROCK!! ;D

Hugs,
RED

P.S. Hey "M", considered that signed book a done deal! ;)  As soon as this baby is finished and being printed, we're gonna hook up!  I hope you like a little comedy, a little romance,  and a WHOLE LOT of crazy from a "Southern born and bred Redhead!"

Title: Re: Avast + add'lr anti programs installed, now avast can't scan properly
Post by: RichmondRed on April 11, 2006, 10:07:56 PM
Hey gang,
I never thought I'd be back this quick but.....I've just heard something and I've found nothing on it.  Are any of you familiar with either the Home Avast! having a firewall or is this something in the works?

Wulf, I've downloaded the FAST Defrag and love it!  Thanks for the heads up on that one bud!  It rocks!

Spiritsong, I forgot to address about the firewall issue in my earlier post and you're right.  I don't have one but am looking for one right now as we speak...Zone Alarm to be exact.   I've looked at the ewido, liked what I saw and am now getting ready to install it.  Thanks as well for those two references.

Any other advice anyone can add to what I've been given, I'd be forever grateful.  Again, thank you to all who have helped me with my issues.

Take Care.

Have a good one!
RED
Title: Re: Avast + add'lr anti programs installed, now avast can't scan properly
Post by: CharleyO on April 11, 2006, 11:37:01 PM
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Neither Avast Home nor Avast Pro have a firewall. It has Web Shield but that is not a firewall.

ZA Free is considered to be the easiest to learn and can be downloaded here ......

http://www.zonelabs.com:80/store/content/company/products/znalm/freeDownload2.jsp?dc=12bms&ctry=&lang=en


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Title: Re: Avast + add'lr anti programs installed, now avast can't scan properly
Post by: DavidR on April 11, 2006, 11:40:41 PM
avast doesn't have a firewall, but the Network Shield provides limited protection on known exploits for viruses such as sasser, blaster, etc. Zone Alarm free is fine and works well with avast, it isn't the best, but it does have a friendly user interface and requires little manual set-up and as such is a good choice for a first firewall.

This has been previously discussed about avast making a firewall product, whilst there was nothing planned in the near future, it wasn't ruled out.

However what many on the forums don't want to see is avast turn into a bloated software suite.
Title: Re: Avast + add'lr anti programs installed, now avast can't scan properly
Post by: Wulf on April 12, 2006, 10:05:55 AM
 ;DHi Red,
Glad to of been able to help. :)
Re Firewall: Avast as DavidR has kindly pointed out, doesn't have one. Many people mistakenly think of the Network shield as one because it can intercept virus, worms, and DCOM EXPLOIT attacks from the Internet. It however can not control what applications can enter or leave your computer. That is what a firewall like  CharleyO's Zone Alarm will do. It's a good Firewall but a known resource hog and if you find it's using too much memory on your computer, you could try this one. http://www.download.com/Filseclab-Personal-Firewall-Professional-Edition/3640-10435_4-10421598.html. It uses minimal resources and has good USER reviews. It's also free with regular updates. Good Luck. ;D
Title: Re: Avast + add'lr anti programs installed, now avast can't scan properly
Post by: RichmondRed on April 16, 2006, 07:14:47 PM
First, I want to thank everyone who has made additional posts to help me with my issues.  I haven't been able to post for a few days as a nasty virus basically knocked me on my  *&^*...you get my meaning, right?  In short, I lost 10 lbs in 24 hours! Not so bad when you think, its a start on getting ready for that 2-piece bathing suit I've been looking at! ;) ;D

Being as I'm better, my first question to you would be:
Remember my keyword in a previous post "Varsity Team" Well guess what, here we go again?  What the  ??? is going on now?   :'( :o :'(

When I first downloaded my Avast  and activated it to scan, she ran like a dream.  It updates fine, no problem--even now. After reading 22,674 files, its freezing.  Having read a previous post, found by a search, I wish I had copied down the location of where my system was "freezing"--unfortunately, I didn't.  It has required a "hard boot" big time!  The  task manager, mouse cursor, nothing would move. 

I did download the "Ewido" and "Fast Defrag" Programs--and love them.  However, when my baby froze again, (just like it did on my 2 earlier systems), I removed everything that was a "new" installation.  I again ran my Avast! and she froze again.  I assure you I'm a tad bit smarter than I appear here, just getting my sealegs again, and didn't copy the location of the freeze. ::) :-[ :'(  pretty dumb, I know!  Would you like for me to perform another one and get the location for you?  If so, no sweat! ;)

From the same searched post, I found a "Trend Micro - Free online scan" suggested and ran it.  Thank goodness it came up with nothing, all's fine with my baby--she came back clean as a whistle!

What's going on gang and what do you suggest?
Have I done something wrong that needs to be fixed?

Because I really liked both Ewido and Free Defrag am I going to be able to reinstall them?  Nothing has come up again as in "loss of virtual memory" etc--at least not so far :-\

To be perfectly blunt, there isn't anything on this system that would take up a lot of space that I'm aware of.  I've installed no pix, graphics, nada especially nada on the book and thank goodness I haven't yet.

I do have one question that has my curiosity going not to mention causing quite a few chest pains lately and shortness of breath, OK just kidding,  ;D Here's my concern:

As long as my blue avast icon in the system tray is "turning" and reads "7 providers total, 6 running" is my system protected?  I know what you're thinking, why not all 7 running perhaps?  If you are, I have not a clue on this planet to know how to be able to give you the answer.  You know me--would definitely need step.by.step instruction on that one gang

Also, I've noticed when I'm on THIS site, the avast icon "DOES NOT" turn, is that significant?  Is that something I should be concerned about?  Is my system still protected?

As always, thanks Team for the help.  I'll be standing right here on the 50-yard line waiting for the Coach to send in the next play.

RED
Title: Re: Avast + add'lr anti programs installed, now avast can't scan properly
Post by: Spiritsongs on April 17, 2006, 01:34:15 AM
 :)  Hi Red :

      Did you download, then install the "new" Windows
      Update(s) that came out a few days ago ? I ask because
      1 or 2 of them appear to be "flawed" and there are reports
      on various forums of problem(s) with them, which MAY be
      causing your problem(s) .
     
      What was the name of that nasty "virus" you say you
      had ?

      P.S. The "turning/not turning" of the Avast icon is the
             same as I experience, as well as the Provider #s .
Title: Re: Avast + add'lr anti programs installed, now avast can't scan properly
Post by: RichmondRed on April 17, 2006, 03:14:08 AM
Spiritsong,
Thanks for responding my friend.  Interesting point and something I'm going to be checking on right now.  I'll be coming back here and let y'all know what I found.

As far as the "virus" Spirit, I was lucky the "Trend-Micro" scan that was suggested on a previous post here on Avast's forum didn't produce anything..my baby came back clean as a whistle.

By the way, do you know if the turning/not turning of the Avast blue system tray icon is a probem when we're on Avast's site?  How about when we're not?

As always, thanks to y'all in advance,
RED
Title: Re: Avast + add'lr anti programs installed, now avast can't scan properly
Post by: TedNelly on April 17, 2006, 03:23:03 AM
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By the way, do you know if the turning/not turning of the Avast blue system tray icon is a probem when we're on Avast's site?  How about when we're not?

Yo Red the Sys tray Avast Icon (ball) should spin as you go from website to website
Webshiled doing It's thing no problems from here
Title: Re: Avast + add'lr anti programs installed, now avast can't scan properly
Post by: CharleyO on April 17, 2006, 03:45:20 AM
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Yes, Red, it should spin from time to time even on this forum ... provided, of course, as TedNelly suggests, that Web Shield is activated.


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Title: Re: Avast + add'lr anti programs installed, now avast can't scan properly
Post by: Wulf on April 17, 2006, 08:30:22 AM
Hi Red,
The program freezing now could be due to the latest updates as suggested by Spiritsongs, providing of course, that you have downloaded them. Otherwise, as you have a new system it may not be configured properly. As you are running 2000 Pro and you seem to be having memory problems ( the Operating system) checking out your page file settings may be worth your while. They are not automatically optimized in Windows 2000. This link will help you. http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cook/Pagefile.htm
As for the 7 providers in Avast, 6 running is normal. The 7th on my computer is the Outlook/Exchange  provider which only runs if you use these programs, otherwise it displays the message, The provider is waiting for a subsystem to start.
This can be verified by double clicking the the blue Avast ball and a provider interface will appear on your screen. By clicking on the different provider icons you will get info on their status and also be able to customize their settings. You will also see the last file scanned by that provider.
 :)
Title: Re: Avast + add'lr anti programs installed, now avast can't scan properly
Post by: mauserme on April 18, 2006, 06:28:39 AM
Hey Red,

The blue avast! icon spins when your computer is active - opeing a file, changing web pages, etc.  If your computer is idle it will be too (but keep in mind there are background processes that cause activity you might not be aware of).

Regarding the freezes, if you right click My Computer, click Manage, and expand the Event Viewer do you see any memory related errors or warnings about the time you freeze?
Title: Re: Avast + add'lr anti programs installed, now avast can't scan properly
Post by: RichmondRed on April 18, 2006, 08:32:15 PM
WTG VARSITY SQUAD!! ;D  I'm impressed! :o Y'all know some serious stuff about computers!  Here's hoping I'm learning as we go and think I am--scary, ain't it :o

The WebShield is rockin' it just scanned the link you sent me Wulf on "optimizing my 2000"  ;) Thank you for that, GREAT INFO Bud! ;D  And you're right, from what I just read and went to take a look see, this is what I found:

Its set at 192 MB under performance options.

So that needs to be fixed for sure!

Hey M, went into control panel and in my 2000, I found the "event Viewer" with a BOATLOAD of information!!! There is so much stuff there I wouldn't even begin to know where to start.  I found when I right clicked on topics,and then selected properties, it gave me an explanation but all of it is in computer jargon--any suggestions on how to decipher any of it?

Spiritsong,  nope, didn't download nada on the updates.  First, it showed me "0MB, 0 Min's remaining to install."  The 2nd go round, it came up with what looked to be this:

%.@$, etc.  :-\and got out of it quick, so thought I better leave well enough alone till I talked to you guys.

Charley and TedNelly, yep, everything is  8) on the Avast system icon now.  Although it only turns here on the site--at times--when I leave the site, she's rollin' ;D ;)  Whew, that took a lot off my mind  in worrying if my baby was protected.  Also checked all settings and every one of them is on "High"  I don't use Outlook Express at all as I'm using Mozilla's Thunderbird and love it! ;)

Well Team, with all I've given you with what I've found, where do you think this leaves us now?

I definitely need to go to "Performance Options" and do an expansion.  I now know the blue Avast icon is  8)  But, pertaining to the "system freezing" location under Event Viewer, I'm at a loss, BIG TIME!  Is there anyway of sending you guys anything so you can look at it?  Is that ok to do?  Never asked the question before, so didn't know if it is done or not?

DavidR, I also wanted to thank you and CharleyO, and I don't think I did previously, about my concerns regarding a firewall.  With Avast! recently scanning and freezing, I was leery about installing ZoneAlarm as yet, what are your thoughts?


Also, I'm curious about something.  What does it mean concerning Avast being "a bloated software suite."  Just curious :)

As always Varsity, thanks for everything.  Looking forward to hearing from you again.

P.S.  Didn't see this when I initially came on line but my Niece left me a note this morning--she said the antivirus worked fine, it took 21:34 to scan the files and came up with ZERO infections!! woohoo!! Think we're home free now and I can get rolling on my firewall and start the book or do you think tweaking is in order first?  Perhaps a little extra time thrown in for good measure making sure all is running smoothly? 
Title: Re: Avast + add'lr anti programs installed, now avast can't scan properly
Post by: CharleyO on April 18, 2006, 11:14:58 PM
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Hi Red,

If it were me, I would now install the free version of Zone Alarm right away. For a couple of days, ZA will give pop-ups on every program that tries to leave your computer for the interenet. With a little "teaching" over a few days, ZA will stop giving those as it will have learned what to let out and what to keep in. You can "teach" ZA by using the little check box on each pop-up you get. By the checkbox, it says something like "Remember this decision." Be sure to read on the pop-up what program it is that wants access to the internet. Use you best judgement on what to let out and in a few days ZA will hardly ever bother you again. Of course, any Avast service/program is safe and most will have to be let out in order for avast to work correctly. Other programs would include but not be limited to ... Windows Update (or others such as Defender, Error Reporting, etc), Ad-Aware & other security programs, IE or browser of choice (though I make these ask each time by not using the check box), and ZA itself.

Bloatware is a program that has too many features or so many features that none of them do a good job. Generally speaking, standing alone programs are more efficient and easier to control. Also, with stand alone programs, you get to use what suits you best instead of having to use programs/applications included in bloatware that may not be as you want them.


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Title: Re: Avast + add'lr anti programs installed, now avast can't scan properly
Post by: mauserme on April 19, 2006, 04:50:34 AM
Its set at 192 MB under performance options.

So that needs to be fixed for sure!
RED,

Have you made that adjustment yet?  If you're willing to give up a little extra disk space try setting it for RAM x 1.5 = 384.

I found the "event Viewer" with a BOATLOAD of information!!!

Just information entries, or alerts (yellow triangle) and warnings (x in a red circle)?
Title: Free firewall
Post by: Spiritsongs on April 19, 2006, 06:57:27 AM
 :)  Hi Red :

      Concerning firewall(s) : at times Zone Alarm & Avast have
      "problems" together, whereas the FREE Sygate Personal
       firewall has no conflicts as far as I know. It can be
       downloaded from :
       www.filehippo.com/download_sygate_personal_firewall/ .
       There is a "Guide" at :
       www/kotiposti.net/string/SPF_eng/SPFGuide.html .
Title: Re: Avast + add'lr anti programs installed, now avast can't scan properly
Post by: Wulf on April 19, 2006, 11:56:07 AM
Way To Go ;D
Take M's advice and make the adjustment. Hit the change on virtual memory and select DRIVE C. On paging file size for selected drive, input 384 in initial size. In maximum size input 768. Hit set and reboot.
ReinstallFast Defrag and you're away.
I'm with Spiritsongs on the Sygate Firewall, a most under rated piece of software.
As far as I'm aware it's the only one that recognizes that  Windows by default allocates server/client rights to all of its processes. Nothing I repeat nothing on your computer needs server rights for normal internet use.  Some P2P programs will need those rights to enable file sharing but that's it.
The Sygate will let you take away their server rights, deny ICMP traffic and block everything in screensaver mode.Futhermore NO WINDOWS PROCESS need access the Internet. The firewall will automatically resolve your  Internet connection requirements and will let nothing out or in without your permission. The only windows service that needs to leave your computer is Generic Host Process when you do a Windows Update, and it can do so as a client only. Everything else can stay locked up, so to speak. Read the guide thoroughly , set permissions to ask so you can familiarize yourself with the Sygate and you will have a computer locked up like Fort Knox!
This should set your mind at ease. ;D
Title: Re: Avast + add'lr anti programs installed, now avast can't scan properly
Post by: mauserme on April 19, 2006, 01:32:27 PM
at times Zone Alarm & Avast have "problems" together
I'm not posting against Sygate, but I think the Zone Alarm problems only occur with the paid version.
Title: Re: Avast + add'lr anti programs installed, now avast can't scan properly
Post by: CharleyO on April 19, 2006, 05:50:09 PM
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I agree with mauserme. There is no conflict between Avast and Zone Alarm Free ... which is what I suggested.
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If it were me, I would now install the free version of Zone Alarm right away.

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...on the Sygate Firewall, a most under rated piece of software. As far as I'm aware it's the only one that recognizes that  Windows by default allocates server/client rights to all of its processes.
This is incorrect. Zone Alarm Free also does not automatically allow server/client rights.

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Nothing I repeat nothing on your computer needs server rights for normal internet use.  Some P2P programs will need those rights to enable file sharing but that's it.
Is this not contradictory?    ???

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The Sygate will let you take away their server rights,
Zone Alarm Free also does this by not allowing server rights in the first place. You have to choose to give server rights to any program.

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Read the guide thoroughly , set permissions to ask so you can familiarize yourself with the Sygate ...
By default, Zone Alarm Free asks with out you having to set anything.


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Title: Re: Avast + add'lr anti programs installed, now avast can't scan properly
Post by: Wulf on April 20, 2006, 10:22:00 AM
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...on the Sygate Firewall, a most under rated piece of software. As far as I'm aware it's the only one that recognizes that  Windows by default allocates server/client rights to all of its processes.
This is incorrect. Zone Alarm Free also does not automatically allow server/client rights.
 
OK maybe I need to expand this. When Sygate is first installed you will be able to access a list of Windows Processes in Applications that Sygate has detected have server/client rights by default
You are then able to take away or allow those rights to stay.
Correct me  if I am wrong, but there is no such ability in any version of Zone Alarm that I have been able to find.
Zone Alarm only allows you to make this decision once the process tries to access the Internet, in Program Control in the Programs tab. In this area I find only the programs that have applied for access, nothing else. If there is somewhere else in Zone Alarm where a list of Windows Processes exist like the Sygate list I haven't found it. Sygate has the option to hide these Windows processes. Is there an Option in Zone Alarm Free that will reveal them?
 
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Nothing I repeat nothing on your computer needs server rights for normal internet use.  Some P2P programs will need those rights to enable file sharing but that's it.
Is this not contradictory?    ???

Not really. Normal internet use for the majority is email and surfing activities that do not require server rights.

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The Sygate will let you take away their server rights,
Zone Alarm Free also does this by not allowing server rights in the first place. You have to choose to give server rights to any program.

I stand corrected.

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Read the guide thoroughly , set permissions to ask so you can familiarize yourself with the Sygate ...
By default, Zone Alarm Free asks with out you having to set anything.

Same as Sygate, but instead of allowing the process or program to be trusted right off the bat I'm suggesting to keep making it ask for a while until you recognize what it's doing and become comfortable with it. :)


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Title: Re: Avast + add'lr anti programs installed, now avast can't scan properly
Post by: mauserme on April 20, 2006, 07:37:37 PM
Zone Alarm only allows you to make this decision once the process tries to access the Internet, in Program Control in the Programs tab. In this area I find only the programs that have applied for access, nothing else. If there is somewhere else in Zone Alarm where a list of Windows Processes exist like the Sygate list I haven't found it.
Hi Wulf,

If you open the Program Control and click the ADD button at the lower right corner, Zone Alarm will allow you to manually add programs before they seek internet access.

In regard to server rights, I agree its better for any firewall to assume it should not grant this unless it's specifically allowed..  Zone Alarm does not make this assumption - it asks whether to allow or not (not the same as automatilcally allowing).  I might not feel this way if I had single user computers but with multiple users there is always the risk that someone will just click anything to make a warning box go away.  Nonetheless, I do keep coming back to Zone Alarm after testing others because it's so easy to use. 

Sorry if we've strayed too far from Red's original thread.  Maybe we should start a new one in General Topics if we need further discussion.
Title: Re: Avast + add'lr anti programs installed, now avast can't scan properly
Post by: Wulf on April 21, 2006, 06:52:21 AM
Thank you for the explanation M
I'll check it out more thoroughly. I agree that we have strayed from Red's original thread.
Title: Re: Avast + add'lr anti programs installed, now avast can't scan properly
Post by: RichmondRed on April 21, 2006, 05:34:04 PM
You guys aren't just the VARSITY SQUAD--YOU'RE MY HEROES!!!! :-* ;  ;D

And just for the heck of it, I'm gonna throw my 2 cents in here, which as we all know, ain't worth a plug nickel, but I'm LEARNING SO MUCH from what you guys are talking about!! :o  I don't think its straying from the topic at all. 

Isn't it better to have all of this under a single topic where everything is connected by "a common thread" as opposed to being somewhere else?  Again, just my opinion but I REALLY like the ability to look back over previous comments and put your input with it.  Its sorta like a big puzzle only you guys are giving me the "cheat sheet" :o ;D ;) with the answers! 

Also, anyone who has these or similar concerns, a newbie at this sort of thing, or pros like you guys, are going to experience a well of information and its all under 1 topic and its right here!  Its a lot like "1-Stop Shopping" only better!!

What you wanna bet somewhere my English Composition teacher is turning over in her grave right about now? :o ;D ;)

Gang, listen--y'all have completed a very daunting task--you've built up my confidence that was below a "sub basement level" to no longer afraid--and that's some feat believe you me!! :o ;) :-*

Now, I have more to post regarding what y'all said today and some things I ran across this morning.  However, first I need to do this.  You guys wanted to know if I had made the change concerning "performance?" Although my confidence is much higher, "she ain't no dummy!!" which means, I need to make absolutely sure I'm doing this the way you guys instructed so I don't FOUL IT UP! ;)

PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong:

Select My Computer, Control Panel, Click on System,  Advanced Tab, Performance option, Change, and then make all the changes y'all gave me there, correct? Next, Reboot.


Then I can install as Wulf suggested my "Disk Defrag" which frankly I really liked that little jewel ;) 

I do have more to talk to you guys about and a few ?'s as well :o  Thanks for taking care of me on this one.  I'm hoping that by making these changes first, I can report back to you guys how my baby is running then post the new things I ran across this morning.

As always, Thanks Gang

RED
Title: Defragging & "unnecessary Services" !?
Post by: Spiritsongs on April 21, 2006, 06:56:26 PM
 :)  Hi Red :

     Just want to touch on a couple of topics .
     Normally speaking, Defragging should NOT be done
     frequently; have heard it causes unnecessary wear &
     tear on a computer. Assuming you have a "built-in"
     Windows "Disk Defragmenter", it has an "Analyze" function
     that should be run to see if defraging is needed.
     Regarding defraging program(s), I noticed Wulf's
     recommendation is 730 KB, whereas the one anti-malware
    "expert" RejZor has developed, called "Power Defragmenter
     GUI 2.0.110" & available at :
     www.excessive-software.eu.tt is 530 KB, 200 less KB.
     Several of the "regular" helpers on the Avast forum use
     this, including me . There is also other programs at the
     excessive-software site that MAY interest you !?
 
     Since you are "fine-tuning" your OS, you MAY be interested
     in seeing if you have any unnecessary "services" running;
     if yes, see the info at :
     www.tweakhound.com/xp/xptweaks/supertweaks6.htm .
     Since this "Guide" is geared towards Win XP & you have
     Win 2000, I do not know if this is appropiate !?
Title: Re: Avast + add'lr anti programs installed, now avast can't scan properly
Post by: mauserme on April 21, 2006, 08:38:02 PM
Hi RED
The following is from http://www.sanpcguide.com/windows/virtual_memory.html

"To Change the Size of the Virtual Memory Paging File
You must be an administrator or a member of the Administrators group in order to complete this procedure. If your computer is connected to a network, network policy settings may also prevent you from completing this procedure.


1.  Right-click My Computer, click Properties from pop-up menu.

2.  Click Advanced tab, click Performance Options button.

3.  Click Change button from the Performance Options dialog box (make sure Applications option is checked).

4.  Under Drive [Volume Label], select the drive that contains the page file you want to change. (The default size should already be set by Windows 2000)"


Line #1 above differs a little from the method you posted but it all ends up at the same place.
Title: Re: Avast + add'lr anti programs installed, now avast can't scan properly
Post by: RichmondRed on April 22, 2006, 08:30:52 PM
Hi Gang ;D

The change is now made.  I'm at 384 and 768 and followed the instruction to the letter.  ;)  I did notice after the reboot, my baby flew!!! Is this what making the change is to accomplish?  If so, WOW! I'm lovin' life this afternoon ;D

As you know "d: drive" is my "book" drive--will the changes I've made here be carried over to d: drive as well or do I need to make these same changes regarding that drive?

Here comes the part that's got me questioning my abilities BIG TIME!  I've printed out our posts and read them over several times.  I know for sure I'm going with either Zone Alarm or Sygate.  Now, here are my concerns:

1.  I have to "teach" Zone Alarm, right?  Is there any rule of thumb for me to follow in knowing that the "checked boxes" are going to be correct? 

2.  Is there anyway something can slip through its defenses if I unwittingly don't check something? 

3.  Can anything be affected, i.e. my AVAST if my "teaching" is incorrect?

4.  Will my AVAST, for use of a better way of saying it, take up the slack in defending my system, should I either not check something correctly or fail to check the correct box?


5.  As you know D: drive is my "book" drive.  You've told me that AVAST protects my whole system--will the firewall do the same?

**PLEASE NOTE THIS CHANGE** The following questions are just now being added (11:18 pm, Sat. night) because I talked to the publisher this evening. ;D :) ;D

6.  Do you guys know how long it takes for the firewall to be "taught" if I decide to go with Zone Alarm? Just a ballpark idea would be great.

7.  Could you give me a rough estimate on how much time it will take for the firewall to be functioning safely, etc in order for me to begin writing the first draft of the book?

8. Is there anything in particular I should watch out for concerning conflicts or "trouble brewing" between the firewall, Avast, or any other software programs?  If correct, I believe you guys said both suggestions of Zone Alarm and Sygate work great with Avast--this is just for my own piece of mind.  When I start talking about "first draft" I start to get nervous.  Its only after I'm into it BIG TIME, I zone out and all's right with the world! ;) :)

9.  MOST IMPORTANT--I'm going to be installing tonight, my Microsoft Office 2003, Premium, I believe its called.  Are there any issues concerning my Avast or firewall that should be addressed regarding this particular software and its functioning with my computers "protectors?"

If you're thinking I'm a little on the skiddish side of installing a firewall, you're SO right--Ok, granted, its more like a LOT skiddish :-\ :-[ ???.  Let me put it another way--Firewalls hate me but its ok, I just hate them right back!  ;D ;) 8)

However, I've learned from you guys NOTHING can stand alone in defending my baby puter.  We all know its safe to say   you guys are going with either "Zone Alarm" or "Sygate" as my firewall. 

Now, check this out: I've been reading up on each of them HOWEVER something that made my stomach churn I just read this a few minutes ago when looking for something on their site when I ran across the following:

A press release on Sygate's site dated 16 Aug 2005 that Symantec is to acquire Sygate!!!! :o :(

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Symantec, NORTON?????  I can't even begin to tell you how I loathe Norton!!!! Lost a system b/c of them.  The only good thing I can say about them is its how I learned of Avast!  ;D 8)

Does anyone know how this is going to affect Sygate?  Or will it? Are you familiar with it even happening?  Am I putting the cart before the horse so to speak?   I don't want to create my own monsters here y'all, but to be quite honest, if Norton has ANYTHING to do with Sygate, I just made my decision--it'll be Zone Alarm. 

I had planned to do more research on both but like any good writer, when your main character has painted herself into a corner, you've got to listen to those voices so she can find her way out!! ;) ;D 

And yep, but its  8) all writer's will tell you that their character's have voices and conversations do run through their head!  Its ok, no men in little huggy bear suits pulling up to the front curb in their long white van with the big red cross on its side!  Not yet anyway!  ;D ;) ;)

As always Gang, thanks from my heart for all you do and looking forward to hearing what y'all think. I couldn't do any of this without you guys! :-*
Title: Sygate Personal Firewall
Post by: Spiritsongs on April 22, 2006, 08:47:06 PM
 :)  Hi Red :

     That "news" that Symantec/Norton bought out Sygate is
     correct; however, they have now "abandoned" the firewall
     they bought, so all the info I have given you is from
     "sources" NOT connected with Symantec/Norton. There
     are "unoffical" Sygate forums staffed by the Experts who
     used to provide help on the former "official" Sygate forums.
Title: Re: Avast + add'lr anti programs installed, now avast can't scan properly
Post by: RichmondRed on April 23, 2006, 04:59:37 AM
Thank you so much Spirit, that took a lot off my mind..whew! I really was worried there for a bit--  :-\ not any more! ;D  :-*

I wanted to clarify a statement I made earlier regarding "firewall research."  What I was trying to say is whenever I take on something new, be it the book, software, whatever, I'll read a lot on it--no different than with the firewalls.  My scope of research, as I like to call it, only deals with the suggestions you guys make.  My goal is to hopefully understand more by reading and therefore not ask stupid questions when I need y'all's help.

Something else I've found is when I read other "user reviews," there have been times when what I read is something I've experienced personally.  Frankly, I feel more at ease knowing there is someone else out in the cyber world who's just as bad as me when it comes to computers! ;) ;D :P
 
I know I just can't seem to say it enough but thanks SOLELYto you guys, and as I've stated before, my confidence is no longer keeping company with the dust bunnies in the basement! :o ;) ;D :-*

I'm going to be downloading the "defrag" software right after this post.  Having said that reminded me to say thanks for the headsup on the "analyze" function Spirit! :) I had not a clue about that and will be using it tonight! ;)

What I'd like to do is get this firewall in and running but I'd also feel better waiting for your feedback about the earlier post I made today.  I'm still not ready to leave the creek for the ocean--not quite yet anyway! ;) ;D
Title: Re: Avast + add'lr anti programs installed, now avast can't scan properly
Post by: mauserme on April 23, 2006, 06:53:18 AM
I'm at 384 and 768 and followed the instruction to the letter. ;) I did notice after the reboot, my baby flew!!! Is this what making the change is to accomplish
Yep.  And hopefully will solve the lock ups too.

1. I have to "teach" Zone Alarm, right? Is there any rule of thumb for me to follow in knowing that the "checked boxes" are going to be correct?
As Wulf said earlier, you probably will not want to grant internet server rights to any programs (unless you use p2p, etc).  So open the Program Control on ZA and make sure to change all the ?'s in the internet server column to X's.  Do this periodically as new programs get added to the list (actually best to do it immediately after a program gets added).

Also, you'll see several windows processes seeking internet access and its sometimes hard to know whether to allow or not.  See what Wulf said re:  generic host process and windows updates (allow this). There's different thinking about other Windows programs like Windows Explorer.  I usually live by the axiom, when in doubt deny.

Additionally, some programs (avast! included) will seek internet access in several different ways.  Don't be alarmed when, for example, avast! wants access for updates, to monitor internet activity, email, etc.


2. Is there anyway something can slip through its defenses if I unwittingly don't check something?

No program is perfect, so something could theoretically slip through even if you do everything right.  This is why most of us on the forum, including you now, have adopted a layered approach to computer security.  Not relying on a single product closes holes.

3. Can anything be affected, i.e. my AVAST if my "teaching" is incorrect?

Yes.  The most common effect would be programs you want to have internet access (like avast! updates) will not have access.  If you see this happen its an easy matter to open the Program Control and change the rule to allow access.

4. Will my AVAST, for use of a better way of saying it, take up the slack in defending my system, should I either not check something correctly or fail to check the correct box?[/b][/i]

Yes, but there could be a threat from trojans, worms, crackers, that avast! might not detect.  Someone in this thread (Spritsongs?) suggested Ewido to you.  This is a particularly good program for dealing with trojans and worms.  You might also want to consider a hardware firewall if you have a high speed internet connection.

5. As you know D: drive is my "book" drive. You've told me that AVAST protects my whole system--will the firewall do the same?

Yep.

6. Do you guys know how long it takes for the firewall to be "taught" if I decide to go with Zone Alarm? Just a ballpark idea would be great.

Its an ongoing process that really has no defined end point.  When you first install a firewall each time a program tries to access the internet, the trusted zone, etc the firewall will stop this access and ask you if you want to allow the activity.  Normally you will check a box to "Remember the Setting" and then either allow or deny the activity.  The firewall has now "learned" the identity of the program and your preference regarding access for that program.  You will not be asked again about that individual program unless the program changes (like with the recent avast! program update).  If it detects a changed program it will treat it as an unknown and ask you again.  Similarly with new programs you might install.

The initial activity usually tapers off after 2 or 3 days, depending on how many programs you run.

7. Could you give me a rough estimate on how much time it will take for the firewall to be functioning safely, etc in order for me to begin writing the first draft of the book?

From the moment you reboot after installing it.

8. Is there anything in particular I should watch out for concerning conflicts or "trouble brewing" between the firewall, Avast, or any other software programs? If correct, I believe you guys said both suggestions of Zone Alarm and Sygate work great with Avast--this is just for my own piece of mind. When I start talking about "first draft" I start to get nervous. Its only after I'm into it BIG TIME, I zone out and all's right with the world! ;) :)

I'm not aware of any conflicts with the free version of Zone Alarm or any version of Sygate, but others might have more info on this.

9. MOST IMPORTANT--I'm going to be installing tonight, my Microsoft Office 2003, Premium, I believe its called. Are there any issues concerning my Avast or firewall that should be addressed regarding this particular software and its functioning with my computers "protectors?"

Same answer as #8.

A press release on Sygate's site dated 16 Aug 2005 that Symantec is to acquire Sygate!!!!
  That "news" that Symantec/Norton bought out Sygate is
 correct; however, they have now "abandoned" the firewall
 they bought

If I understand the situation correctly (and I think what Spiritsongs is saying), after Symantec purchased Sygate it gave it the axe because they were developing their own firewall.  So, although still a well regarded firewall, I don't think there is any official support any more.
Title: Re: Avast + add'lr anti programs installed, now avast can't scan properly
Post by: RichmondRed on April 23, 2006, 06:27:11 PM
WOW "M"! Lots of GREAT information.  Thank you so much  Good thing I caught a nap b/c that's all it was--4 hours.  I've re-read documents again and I'm heading over there now to download and install Ewido. 

Spirit, I want to thank you so much for all the information you contributed about antispyware.  I also wanted to tell you why I chose Ewido. 

I read everything and frankly, the reason I went with them is because I use to be an avid AVG user.  There was a press release on their site advising they were joining forces with Grisoft.  Frankly, that's what put it over the top for me.  Again thank you from the heart! 

The next software program I'll be installing today is my Microsoft Office Premium 2003, finally!  We're getting to the end guys-won't be much longer!   However, its still a tossup on the firewall but I'm really leaning toward Zone Alarm.

Because this just happened regarding Ewido, I thought it best to post the question here on the "modified" version of my earlier post.   

[b]**PLEASE NOTE **I ran the scan and it picked up SEVEN  infections NOT found by an "updated" Spyware Doctor     and Spyware Doctor was used first!![/b]  Life is good this Sunday afternoon!

Because of Active X needing to be enabled on Ewido's site, I used my IE (ugh!) browser and downloaded the file to my desktop.  Its my understanding "Firefox" doesn't use Active X controls--don't quote me on that but its my understanding from what I've read. 

I ALWAYS scan all downloaded files there before opening.  Now, please tell me if your Avast! does this or is something wrong.

EACH AND EVERY time I go to scan a downloaded, UNOPENED file of any nature and click "Scan with Avast!", the only thing I see is the Avast Quick screen.  It pops up and is gone in the bat of an eye--Literally!!!

It never says if the file is ok, nothing, nada.  Shouldn't it be giving me some kind of information regarding it being safe to open?  Do all Avast's "Quick Scan" work the same way?  Something like "no news is good news" syndrome--if I don't find a message that the file is corrupt, etc., its safe to open and setup?   

With all we been discussing, this is one that fell through the cracks.  I'm so glad it happened this afternoon as it acted like a reminder to come back to the "Varsity Squad" for your feedback and advice!! 

There is one aspect of Sygate I want to check out first.  Does this software have to be taught as well? I think this was answered earlier, but for the life of me I can't find it on the post anywhere.  There is probably a good reason for that too--My eyes were propped open by toothpicks and the IV of Folger's ringers had yet to be opened!! :D ;D,

By the way, here is a belated question.  I tried to post using the "quote" function under the "modify" icon but no luck. 

I saw last night my "p2p" function set on "custom" where everything else is set on "high."   If my Avast is set to utilize the P2P function on "high" instead of "custom," would that "overall" take care of "teaching" my zone alarm firewall?

With any installation concerning my Avast! and since I do NOT unless absolutely necessary use IE. does IE come into play regarding any of my Avast settings?
The reason for my concern is Active X enabling!!   I have it set where it must ask first if it is to be enabled.

Does the "p2p function" cover a broader scope than just granting interent access?

Because I installed my Avast "as is," I never chose "custom" for my p2p function.  Should that be changed to "high" like everything else?  Is this an issue to be concerned about?As always thanks for everything! 
Title: Re: Avast + add'lr anti programs installed, now avast can't scan properly
Post by: Wulf on April 24, 2006, 12:15:18 AM
HI red :)
As you know "d: drive" is my "book" drive--will the changes I've made here be carried over to d: drive as well or do I need to make these same changes regarding that drive?

No. As you say it's your "book" drive I'm assuming you have no Operating System loaded onto this drive, and that is is solely for storage.

It never says if the file is OK, nothing, nada.  Shouldn't it be giving me some kind of information regarding it being safe to open?  Do all Avast's "Quick Scan" work the same way?  Something like "no news is good news" syndrome--if I don't find a message that the file is corrupt, etc., its safe to open and setup?

If you want the On Access Scanner to let you know the results: Right click the Avast icon, select program settings, In Common settings tick these two,  Show results of Explorer Extension, Show Explorer Extension Icon.

In regards to the Sygate Firewall, it is by default set to ask you for permission. You can the allow or block it for that session. If your are comfortable with allowing, you tell it not to ask again and it will not bother you anymore unless the program changes ( loads new components or d'lls) then the Firewall will re ask you for permission as it recognizes that the program is no longer the one you gave permission for.

I saw last night my "p2p" function set on "custom" where everything else is set on "high."   If my Avast is set to utilize the P2P function on "high" instead of "custom," would that "overall" take care of "teaching" my zone alarm firewall?


The reason for your P2P settings  being on custom is one or more of the programs inside the Provider list is unticked. If you go into customize and then tick all the programs in the programs list it should return to normal. That setting is fine.

With any installation concerning my Avast! and since I do NOT unless absolutely necessary use IE. does IE come into play regarding any of my Avast settings? The reason for my concern is Active X enabling!!   I have it set where it must ask first if it is to be enabled.

Active X is a  well recognized danger for malware and as such should be steered clear off. If you must use it the setting you have chosen is your best defense. Make sure the certificate is signed by Microsoft. If it's not, under no circumstances allow it.
Title: Re: Avast + add'lr anti programs installed, now avast can't scan properly
Post by: mauserme on April 24, 2006, 12:35:05 AM
I ALWAYS scan all downloaded files there before opening.  Now, please tell me if your Avast! does this or is something wrong.

Hey Again, RED,

You can certainly manually scan each file if you wish, and if you do as Wulf said you'll be able to see the results.  But its not entirely necessary.

Avast! monitors your internet activity almost in real time.  It will stop anything it detects before it even hits your hard drive.  This is a much better technique than writing the file to disk and then scanning on open which is how most av programs work.

If something did happen to slip through (eg a password protected file that can't be scanned until opened) the Standard Shield would catch it at that point.
Title: Re: Avast + add'lr anti programs installed, now avast can't scan properly
Post by: Wulf on April 24, 2006, 11:21:39 AM
Hi Red, :)
This may be of some interest to you, although it is not something we have not covered so far.
Screensavers
Avast has the ability to scan your computer while your screensaver is running. Here you can tell it to scan whole files and to scan them by content rather than extension. This is more thorough. One more arrow in the quiver (so to speak) of your defense systems. If it finds anything, it will come out of screensaver mode and alert you, at the same time suspending everything pending your intervention.
At this link http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=16978.0 you will find a couple of great Avast screensavers made by SZ Craftec, Avast Skin Designer.
The spinning Ball looks great up and running!
Avast! You are Protected.
Title: "SpywareBlaster"
Post by: Spiritsongs on April 24, 2006, 05:48:59 PM
 :)  Hi Red :

     On Apr 10, I mentioned "SpywareBlaster" from
     javacoolsoftware, but have seen no mention of it from you .
     This program is one of the premier "prevent"-type ( & FREE)
     antiSPYWARE programs, that also covers "firefox". It has a
     tutorial at : www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/index.php?
     showtutorial=49 . There are many "tutorials" on the
     bleepingcomputer website that may interest you !?