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Other => Non-Avast security products => Topic started by: Spawn on July 02, 2017, 12:27:58 PM

Title: Integrated services like Google Safe Browsing and Microsoft Smartscreen?
Post by: Spawn on July 02, 2017, 12:27:58 PM
What do users of Avast think of them?
Title: Re: Integrated services like Google Safe Browsing and Microsoft Smartscreen?
Post by: Sparke on July 02, 2017, 06:34:02 PM
Well, as the title says, those kinds of protection is a very basic protection system, where if you browse the web to any secure site like for example the "Padlock" logo showing secure word and green color means your are safe from virus attack. As for google if you use google chrome there is as I said before in built basic security protection. But when you visit unknown sites, you can't always know what you are doing suddenly you visit a unknown site and you get a virus from it like as the form of cookies or you download something from there like Torrent websites which can be very dangerous. So a Anti-Virus security suite is needed to protect you from one of the very protection that the suite offers you.
Title: Re: Integrated services like Google Safe Browsing and Microsoft Smartscreen?
Post by: Evanna456 on July 03, 2017, 01:17:59 PM
for me, they lower the chances of getting infected. How much more if u use an antivirus software.
Title: Re: Integrated services like Google Safe Browsing and Microsoft Smartscreen?
Post by: Sparke on July 04, 2017, 02:59:42 PM
for me, they lower the chances of getting infected. How much more if u use an antivirus software.

They really don't help very much only helps you against basic anti-virus, so a antivirus software is must needed.
Title: Re: Integrated services like Google Safe Browsing and Microsoft Smartscreen?
Post by: polonus on July 04, 2017, 06:28:10 PM
Completely wrong info here in this thread.
Where you got that nonsense from (as a TINSEC student? My aunt on roller skates!)

Google Safebrowsing is not only about secure connections, as is the https everywhere and is https anywhere campaign.

Apparently you do not even understand the technical background behind Google Safebrowsing, particularly on https:

At Google we'll typically choose to index the HTTPS URL if:

- It doesn’t contain insecure dependencies.
- It isn’t blocked from crawling by robots.txt.
- It doesn’t redirect users to or through an insecure HTTP page.
- It doesn’t have a rel="canonical" link to the HTTP page.
- It doesn’t contain a noindex robots meta tag.
- It doesn’t have on-host outlinks to HTTP URLs.
- The sitemaps lists the HTTPS URL, or doesn’t list the HTTP version of the URL
- The server has a valid TLS certificate.

bron: https://webmasters.googleblog.com/2015/12/indexing-https-pages-by-default.html

I would warn particularly against his advice, as it blocks a good part of malicious websites, suspicious websites and phishing websites as well. To check a link is: https://www.google.com/transparencyreport/safebrowsing/diagnostic/

When Google Safebrowsing alerts, there is almost always an issue: https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/110596/all-subdomains-blocked-by-google-safebrowsing

polonus (volunteer website security analyst and website error-hunter)
Title: Re: Integrated services like Google Safe Browsing and Microsoft Smartscreen?
Post by: Eddy on July 04, 2017, 07:02:04 PM
Let me get a couple of things straight.
As I have in my signature, security starts with what a user knows/does.

I still see that almost 100% of the user are using a user account with admin rights for daily things when it is not needed at all.
I see that almost 100% of the users (including so called pro's) have (almost) no clue about how malware can work and how to prevent systems from getting infected.
I see people who complain that their system got infected although they have a "av" installed.

I've worked in a hospital and a organization that was operating in the same building came with a pc to me because it wouldn't worked anymore.
I booted the system and guess what... There was a warning the system was infected.
Ok, so what did they do?
They clicked the message away because the system was "working" after doing so.
They where really lucky that it was a true virus and not something else or they would have lost at least 75% of their confidential documents with information about their clients.

Simply said:
Everyone who has the money for it can buy a computer, but almost no-one knows how to handle it properly.