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Title: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: petr.kolacek on October 13, 2017, 12:40:04 PM
Hi everyone,

new beta version 17.8.2315 (build 17.8.3671.0) is released.

What's new:
We did not finished any new feature in adequate BETA quality.

Known issues:

Download links:
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=179943.0

Enjoy this beta!
We are looking forward to your feedback.

AVAST Team.
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: Alikhan on October 13, 2017, 12:43:57 PM
So if nothing was introduced... You could tell us what is fixed.. sigh.
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: petr.kolacek on October 13, 2017, 02:30:55 PM
So if nothing was introduced... You could tell us what is fixed.. sigh.

Hi Alikhan, thank you for your feedback. Let me ask you - what would you appreciate to know about fixed bugs? Are you interested in a full list of bugs fixed? Or are you insterested just in those reported by BETA community? Would the "subject/title" of a bug be enough?
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: Eddy on October 13, 2017, 02:34:25 PM
Update/install over the existing version went without a problem, but after reboot I got to see "VPS is not up-to-date".
Invoking a manual update for the VPS and it said I already have the latest installed.
This also happened with the previous beta version.
Something isn't going correct there.

Seems to me it is one of the many bugs that people want to have fixed and told about.
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: Alikhan on October 13, 2017, 03:01:51 PM
So if nothing was introduced... You could tell us what is fixed.. sigh.

Hi Alikhan, thank you for your feedback. Let me ask you - what would you appreciate to know about fixed bugs? Are you interested in a full list of bugs fixed? Or are you insterested just in those reported by BETA community? Would the "subject/title" of a bug be enough?

Hi Petr,

We don't expect a full list of bugs fixed because that would be huge, however, we expect a changelog which lists the most important/niggling issues which are fixed. A subject/title is more than enough. Currently, with respect, the changelogs are not very informative to say the least. This applies to both stable and BETA changelogs. What incentive does it give to BETA users to update if they don't know what is fixed? Compared to the other A/V changelogs, Avast is behind and I won't be the only one saying that.
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: Eddy on October 13, 2017, 03:07:08 PM
And how does avast think beta testers can test if things or not if they don't tell us what has been fixed ?
 >:(
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: bob3160 on October 13, 2017, 03:20:31 PM
The whole idea behind beta testing is to see if new things work properly and if fixes for old bugs have actually been fixed.
If we're not given any information on both of these items, why do beta testing ???
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: petr.kolacek on October 13, 2017, 03:49:27 PM
Thank you for your answers. You are absolutely right. There is no doubt you need information if you want to test something. My question was rather related to the format of it. Next BETA (next week) we will provide more rich changelog to you.
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: Be Secure on October 13, 2017, 04:28:32 PM
And how does avast think beta testers can test if things or not if they don't tell us what has been fixed ?
 >:(
+1.Good bye avast beta..... :P
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: J.Bryl on October 13, 2017, 07:23:35 PM
The issue with 17.7 with the passive mode is still not fixed.
Especially if you have an old version of AVG though you removed it completely it will still switch to passive mode when you install the new version whether  the 17.7 or this new beta 17.8. It will say that the conflicting AV is the old version.
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: Eddy on October 13, 2017, 08:02:15 PM
Eh, this is a avast forum not a AVG one.
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: petr.kolacek on October 13, 2017, 08:04:06 PM
The issue with 17.7 with the passive mode is still not fixed.
Especially if you have an old version of AVG though you removed it completely it will still switch to passive mode when you install the new version whether  the 17.7 or this new beta 17.8. It will say that the conflicting AV is the old version.

Hi J.Bryl there are several issues with passive mode and we have a plan to test it further - the scenario you described will be retested too. However, if you were not already asked to do so, could you please enable debug loggin (Settings -> Maintenance -> Enable debug logging), restart the machine and send us all logs from ProgramData\Avast Software\Avast\log\*.log (or ProgramData\AVG\Antivirus\log\*.log if you have AVG) in ZIP archive?

If you have troubles with uploading to ftp://ftp.avast.com/incoming or sending directly to me over email, please drop me a message (email or forum). Thank you for your feedback!
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: Asyn on October 14, 2017, 08:15:59 AM
Next BETA (next week) we will provide more rich changelog to you.
Please do so, that would be an improvement.

PS: Testing...
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: Asyn on October 14, 2017, 06:42:53 PM
The virus chest is still a dumbed down version of the old chest. :(
Where are all the options we had before...??
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: bob3160 on October 14, 2017, 06:51:54 PM
The virus chest is still a dumbed down version of the old chest. :(
Where are all the options we had before...??
Sounds like the Statistics that were supposed to be reworked but have never come back.  :(
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: DavidR on October 14, 2017, 07:12:18 PM
I really think I'm going to do a clean install and leave the beta versions alone (after over 13 years), there seems to be little point, betas that don't appear to have changed.

Quote from: petr.kolacek
What's new:
We did not finished any new feature in adequate BETA quality.

Known issues:
    When a license/subscription is about to expire, empty dialog may be shown.
    Passive mode does not behave correctly in some cases.

Betas released for 1 day and released as a program update the next.

Plus the lack of information on previous bugs squashed or not (Known Issues should include these), how else are we to know what to test (what has been fixed and what hasn't) !
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: Asyn on October 14, 2017, 07:17:42 PM
Plus the lack of information on previous bugs squashed or not (Known Issues should include these), how else are we to know what to test (what has been fixed and what hasn't) !
According to Petr (Reply #7), this will change in the next beta. Let's see...
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: DavidR on October 15, 2017, 12:02:57 AM
Plus the lack of information on previous bugs squashed or not (Known Issues should include these), how else are we to know what to test (what has been fixed and what hasn't) !
According to Petr (Reply #7), this will change in the next beta. Let's see...

It isn't just that, recently betas have sailed through Q&A and Alpha testing with lots of issues. That is bloody frustrating, same things again and again being reported in the forums, yet unresolved and new functions being added.
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: Patrick2 on October 15, 2017, 02:13:19 AM
I'd be More Comfortable testing betas on my most used Desktop if I knew more of what is fixed and what isn't fixed,  if I do any testing lately it's on my less used that I don't care about Much little Windows 7 Desktop, as if it took a hard crash wouldn't really bother me, then again lately I sometimes skip beta testing as have no idea what is fixed

I still use Avast since i feel it offers the right amount of protection, doesn't slow down performance,  i started back in 2006 using Avast after a bad time with Windows Live Care antivirus missed a bad boot sector virus that idiot me at the time opened, (was testing that at the time for Microsoft)  ever since then haven't trusted Defender, and have always stuck to Avast on each PC and operating system

Just want the serious bugs with Avast caught, fixed, and then a nice stable version released, and i know the more testers you have with different system configurations is for the better probably, but also don't got the time or patience to test as much as i used to anymore,  i do test at times off and on still, but with no info what this version is fixing, i sorta feel like passing this time


Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: NON on October 15, 2017, 08:03:17 AM
Thanks for the new beta :)
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: NON on October 15, 2017, 08:38:49 AM
I can't sign-in to Avast Account via AvastUI... it just closes/crashes.

Installed over stable build (17.7.2314). Avast Premier. Win7 SP1 64bit.
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: bob3160 on October 15, 2017, 02:33:28 PM
I can't sign-in to Avast Account via AvastUI... it just closes/crashes.

Installed over stable build (17.7.2314). Avast Premier. Win7 SP1 64bit.
No problems here getting to the my.avast.com account from the Avast UI.
( I'm on the latest beta.)
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: Eddy on October 15, 2017, 02:52:26 PM
Same problem as NON.
Windows 10.
- Open the GUI.
- Click on "sign in"
- Had to be really quick to capture the attached screemshot
- Can't even start to type anything in the boxes before the GUI closes

Something like this should have come up in Alpha testing already.
A very clear sign to me that avast isn't doing anything close to decent Alpha (internal) testing at all.  >:(
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: -Malware- on October 15, 2017, 04:44:53 PM
Quote
What's new:
We did not finished any new feature in adequate BETA quality.
LOL
Funny to hear from Avast ;D ;D ::)
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: FranceBB1 on October 15, 2017, 11:58:05 PM
I've been facing a "nasty" bug.
As beta tester, Avast Premier upgraded automatically from the former beta to the latest one.
Unfortunately, though, it broke something.
It seems that auto-upgrade corrupted Avast and, although I was able to log in my Desktop, I didn't have any internet connection.
LAN was connected, but it was showing no ip, no mask, nothing, just a blank screen.
When I logged in safe mode, internet was working fine 'cause Avast wasn't loaded.
I tried to repair Avast using another installer and it didn't work.
Then, I tried to uninstall Avast from the control panel and it froze, so I had to use AvastClear.
When I installed the latest beta using the offline installer from scratch, I worked flawlessly.
This is a bug that happens randomly.
I've been facing it few months ago with other builds.
It seems that something doesn't quite work as it should during the auto-upgrade process and it sometimes corrupts the installation.
An internet connection error, perhaps? Incomplete download? Does Avast checks the integrity of the downloaded version with something like MD5 Checksum?
I'm just asking, out of curiosity.
It's not a big deal, it's a beta, we are "advanced" users, we know how to handle simple tasks, but it would be better to fix this "bug".

Intel i7 6700HQ 2.60 GHz 4c/8th
16 GB of RAM DDR4 (8x2)
NVIDIA Geforce GTX 950M, 4GB GDDR5
Seagate SSHD 1TB connected through Sata III, AHCI.

Windows XP SP3 Professional x86 32bit
Microsoft Extended Support renewed annually.

Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: petr.kolacek on October 16, 2017, 07:50:21 AM
I can't sign-in to Avast Account via AvastUI... it just closes/crashes.

Installed over stable build (17.7.2314). Avast Premier. Win7 SP1 64bit.

Thank you NON and Eddy for reporting this problem. We did not experience the same issue, however my colleagues will look at it.
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: petr.kolacek on October 16, 2017, 08:00:29 AM
Hi Francesco Bucciantini, thank you for your feedback. We did not experienced any similar issue with networking during or after update from previous versions despite we do such a test. As you resolved the problem by reinstall the program, there will not be any information left (in logs) that would help us debugging it. Could you please next time enable debug logging (in Settings -> Maintenance - Enable debug logging), try to induce the issue again and send the logs (%ProgramData%\Avast Software\Avast\log and %ProgramData%\AVAST Software\Persistent Data\Avast\Logs\) to us (e.g. to ftp.avast.com).

Regarding to your question whether Avast checks the downloaded material for integrity - yes, it does, so if the file is "corrupted" it will not be used.
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: TheLightgg on October 16, 2017, 09:19:03 AM
Big thanks you to all the development team for this new version beta!

I have two questions:
1) The following bugs in this post could be found and corrected in this new version ?
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=209420.0
(Avast 17.7.2314 passive mode and anti rootkit problem)

2) When the "release" of this new version beta will be available ?

Again thanks to all team.  ;)
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: Asyn on October 16, 2017, 09:24:49 AM
1) The following bugs in this post could be found and corrected in this new version ?
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=209420.0 (Avast 17.7.2314 passive mode and anti rootkit problem)
2) When the release of this new version beta will be available ?
1. Should be fixed.
2. Not sure what you mean, the beta is available already.
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: TheLightgg on October 16, 2017, 10:02:05 AM
1) The following bugs in this post could be found and corrected in this new version ?
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=209420.0 (Avast 17.7.2314 passive mode and anti rootkit problem)
2) When the release of this new version beta will be available ?
1. Should be fixed.
2. Not sure what you mean, the beta is available already.

Thx for the reply.

Sorry I was talking about the "release" version.
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: NON on October 16, 2017, 12:15:04 PM
I can't sign-in to Avast Account via AvastUI... it just closes/crashes.

Installed over stable build (17.7.2314). Avast Premier. Win7 SP1 64bit.

Thank you NON and Eddy for reporting this problem. We did not experience the same issue, however my colleagues will look at it.
Hello petr.kolacek, thanks for your reply. I can easily reproduce it here and every time it creates .mdmp file... do you need them?
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: Karel Šťavík on October 16, 2017, 02:27:58 PM
I can't sign-in to Avast Account via AvastUI... it just closes/crashes.

Installed over stable build (17.7.2314). Avast Premier. Win7 SP1 64bit.

Thank you NON and Eddy for reporting this problem. We did not experience the same issue, however my colleagues will look at it.
Hello petr.kolacek, thanks for your reply. I can easily reproduce it here and every time it creates .mdmp file... do you need them?

Yes please  :)

It would be the best if you:

Thanks for help!

Karel
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: NON on October 16, 2017, 02:49:51 PM
(snip)
Hello petr.kolacek, thanks for your reply. I can easily reproduce it here and every time it creates .mdmp file... do you need them?

Yes please  :)

It would be the best if you:
  • enable debug logging (open Settings - General - Maintenance)
  • reproduce the issue
  • upload all logs and dumps in ZIP archive to our ftp
  • how to about ftp - https://www.avast.com/en-us/faq.php?article=AVKB160#idt_02
  • let us know the name of the archive once uploaded

Thanks for help!

Karel
I always have my machine debug logging enabled ;D

File was uploaded. Filename: NON_log_2017_10_16.7z

Please be noted that there are dumps which are not related to this (can't sign-in) issue but to another one (Smart Scan issue; already reported in Slack channel).
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: Karel Šťavík on October 16, 2017, 03:50:37 PM
(snip)
I always have my machine debug logging enabled ;D

File was uploaded. Filename: NON_log_2017_10_16.7z

Please be noted that there are dumps which are not related to this (can't sign-in) issue but to another one (Smart Scan issue; already reported in Slack channel).

Thanks for the dump. It is already reported to developers who are working on a fix. It will be fixed in next beta.
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: Asyn on October 17, 2017, 07:50:36 AM
Sorry I was talking about the "release" version.
When it's ready (as usual). ;)
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: J.Bryl on October 17, 2017, 05:13:03 PM
The issue with 17.7 with the passive mode is still not fixed.
Especially if you have an old version of AVG though you removed it completely it will still switch to passive mode when you install the new version whether  the 17.7 or this new beta 17.8. It will say that the conflicting AV is the old version.

Hi J.Bryl there are several issues with passive mode and we have a plan to test it further - the scenario you described will be retested too. However, if you were not already asked to do so, could you please enable debug loggin (Settings -> Maintenance -> Enable debug logging), restart the machine and send us all logs from ProgramData\Avast Software\Avast\log\*.log (or ProgramData\AVG\Antivirus\log\*.log if you have AVG) in ZIP archive?

If you have troubles with uploading to ftp://ftp.avast.com/incoming or sending directly to me over email, please drop me a message (email or forum). Thank you for your feedback!

I will do that Petr, for both AVG and AVAST as I test it in different platforms.
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: NON on October 22, 2017, 02:39:13 PM
Thanks for the dump. It is already reported to developers who are working on a fix. It will be fixed in next beta.
It's working now, thanks for the fix :)
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: bob3160 on October 24, 2017, 04:02:13 PM
My system just rebooted ???
Only thing I've been able to see was a VPS update just before the re-boot ???

Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: Asyn on October 25, 2017, 07:02:20 AM
My system just rebooted ???
Only thing I've been able to see was a VPS update just before the re-boot ???
Interesting, I didn't get any VPS updates for the beta since the 18th October.
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: bob3160 on October 25, 2017, 02:36:58 PM
My system just rebooted ???
Only thing I've been able to see was a VPS update just before the re-boot ???
Interesting, I didn't get any VPS updates for the beta since the 18th October.
(http://screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1508934975386-83305.png)
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: Asyn on October 25, 2017, 05:08:18 PM
Meanwhile, I also got the VPS update. Cheers
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2315
Post by: DavidR on October 25, 2017, 06:04:49 PM
My system just rebooted ???
Only thing I've been able to see was a VPS update just before the re-boot ???
Interesting, I didn't get any VPS updates for the beta since the 18th October.
(http://screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1508934975386-83305.png)

Snap, however this is in the 17.7.2314 regular (not beta) release, this morning the WSC chimed up about avast being out of date. Image1 Avast update section.

No notification from Avast either about it being out of date, but whilst compiling this it would appear to have updated. Image2 Defs sub-folder.