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Title: New Beta version 17.8.2318
Post by: petr.kolacek on November 08, 2017, 01:19:49 PM
Hi everyone,

new beta version 17.8.2318 (build 17.8.3705.0) is released.

NEW Features:
* NEW Core Shields page, where you can easily manage your protection including Behavior Shield
* NEW Scans page with our major Smart Scan and other scans, which are presented in user friendly way
* NEW redesign of promo screens for paid features (only in AntiVirus FREE)

Fixed Bugs

Known Issues

Download links:
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=179943.0

Enjoy this beta!
We are looking forward to your feedback.

AVAST Team.
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2318
Post by: bob3160 on November 08, 2017, 02:19:10 PM
Since you can't restore something detected by Behavior Shield,
would it be safer to turn the shield Off till that problem has been solved ???

Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2318
Post by: RejZoR on November 08, 2017, 02:43:45 PM
What baffles me a bit more is how such bugs even come into existence during the development. I mean, such problems shouldn't ever even come to a public BETA version.
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2318
Post by: bob3160 on November 08, 2017, 02:47:22 PM
What baffles me a bit more is how such bugs even come into existence during the development. I mean, such problems shouldn't ever even come to a public BETA version.
I'm currently working with Avast to find out why the Behavior Shield doesn't start when Avast starts.
So unless I turn it on manually, I don't have to worry about it catching anything. :)
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2318
Post by: mabg777 on November 08, 2017, 07:51:37 PM
ERRO: avastui.exe a partir das 12h50, Brasil, horário de verão, 08 de novembro de 2017. Reiniciei o desktop windows 8.1 64 bits e suponho que esse erro decorra de alguma atualização automática do Avast...  :( Tentei remover com Revo Uninstaller. O programa desapareceu da lista do Revo, mas continua no computador. Tentei reinstalar mas a mensagem de erro aparece quando aciono o executável do avast.
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2318
Post by: bob3160 on November 08, 2017, 08:25:52 PM
ERRO: avastui.exe a partir das 12h50, Brasil, horário de verão, 08 de novembro de 2017. Reiniciei o desktop windows 8.1 64 bits e suponho que esse erro decorra de alguma atualização automática do Avast...  :( Tentei remover com Revo Uninstaller. O programa desapareceu da lista do Revo, mas continua no computador. Tentei reinstalar mas a mensagem de erro aparece quando aciono o executável do avast.
English please.

Clean Install of Avast:
https://goo.gl/4Ptzkf
If you need additional help with the Clean Install, watch this:
https://youtu.be/p-h3myRD51A
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2318
Post by: TheLightgg on November 08, 2017, 08:57:54 PM
ERRO: avastui.exe a partir das 12h50, Brasil, horário de verão, 08 de novembro de 2017. Reiniciei o desktop windows 8.1 64 bits e suponho que esse erro decorra de alguma atualização automática do Avast...  :( Tentei remover com Revo Uninstaller. O programa desapareceu da lista do Revo, mas continua no computador. Tentei reinstalar mas a mensagem de erro aparece quando aciono o executável do avast.

Launch the "safe mode" and launch the uninstaller avast:
https://www.avast.com/uninstall-utility

Reinstall Avast ! ;)

And please write your next message in english. Thx google traduction... :)

EDIT: I dont see your message @bob3160,  sorry :)
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2318
Post by: Asyn on November 09, 2017, 05:12:43 AM
Thanks Petr, testing...
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2318
Post by: Asyn on November 09, 2017, 07:34:53 AM
Regarding the chest, same as reported in a prior beta.
-> https://forum.avast.com/index.php?msg=1426092
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2318
Post by: Asyn on November 09, 2017, 07:36:42 AM
Regarding Smart-Scan, same as reported in a prior beta.
-> https://forum.avast.com/index.php?msg=1429560
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2318
Post by: Asyn on November 09, 2017, 08:52:15 AM
Since you can't restore something detected by Behavior Shield,
would it be safer to turn the shield Off till that problem has been solved ???
I'd suggest to set it to "ask" instead.
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2318
Post by: NON on November 09, 2017, 01:35:00 PM
Thanks for the new beta. :)

Known Issues
  • Malware detected by Behavioral Shield cannot be restored
This reminds me old Network shield, its scan could not be excluded for a long time.
I can understand this kind of things may happen when structurally different components are merged, but still, should be fixed as soon as possible.

BTW with previous beta WebCam shield does not work for me, I'll see what happens with this new beta...
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2318
Post by: NON on November 09, 2017, 02:29:04 PM
BTW with previous beta WebCam shield does not work for me, I'll see what happens with this new beta...
Still not working for my webcam. :(
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2318
Post by: Luukjr on November 09, 2017, 07:06:46 PM
I'm not a beta tester, yet after a program update I received program17.8.2318 (build 17.8.3705.0)
Why, when it's still beta?
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2318
Post by: DavidR on November 09, 2017, 07:42:51 PM
I'm not a beta tester, yet after a program update I received program17.8.2318 (build 17.8.3705.0)
Why, when it's still beta?


Have you ever run a beta version ?
If so it remains on the beta channel so when a beta is released it would install it unless you had Program Updates to Manual or Ask when an update is available.

I'm on the beta channel and the current beta is sitting awaiting my pleasure (I have it set to Manual Update). You would get a Notification in the UI Notification area (Bell icon).
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2318
Post by: cruiser25 on November 09, 2017, 07:55:15 PM
I also was promted to do this security update I have never been on beta channel always used a paid product Antivirus pro. This is not acceptable by Avast. I have not paid for an experimental version of the program. I realy want someone from the Avast team to give an answer how this happened ? And what to do about it.
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2318
Post by: DavidR on November 09, 2017, 08:01:04 PM
I also was promted to do this security update I have never been on beta channel always used a paid product Antivirus pro. This is not acceptable by Avast. I have not paid for an experimental version of the program.

It wouldn't surprise me if it has been released without notification in the forums. We have seen this before, beta one day released the next and the same version number as the beta.

This in theory should never happen if you have never used the avast beta, you would/should be on the regular release channel.
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2318
Post by: Alikhan on November 09, 2017, 08:03:14 PM
I also was promted to do this security update I have never been on beta channel always used a paid product Antivirus pro. This is not acceptable by Avast. I have not paid for an experimental version of the program.

It wouldn't surprise me if it has been released without notification in the forums. We have seen this before, beta one day released the next and the same version number as the beta.

This in theory should never happen if you have never used the avast beta, you would/should be on the regular release channel.

It has been released to the stable channel. We're still waiting on a changelog. The changelog should be released when the update is pushed. Unprofessional.
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2318
Post by: DavidR on November 09, 2017, 08:07:23 PM
I also was promted to do this security update I have never been on beta channel always used a paid product Antivirus pro. This is not acceptable by Avast. I have not paid for an experimental version of the program.

It wouldn't surprise me if it has been released without notification in the forums. We have seen this before, beta one day released the next and the same version number as the beta.

This in theory should never happen if you have never used the avast beta, you would/should be on the regular release channel.

It has been released to the stable channel. We're still waiting on a changelog. The changelog should be released when the update is pushed. Unprofessional.

+1

This should never be released until there is some sort of notification, the Forum, Avast Blog or other medium.

Confusion would be greatly reduced if Avast would stop using the same bloody BETA version number for a regular release.
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2318
Post by: cruiser25 on November 09, 2017, 08:09:07 PM
I also was promted to do this security update I have never been on beta channel always used a paid product Antivirus pro. This is not acceptable by Avast. I have not paid for an experimental version of the program.

It wouldn't surprise me if it has been released without notification in the forums. We have seen this before, beta one day released the next and the same version number as the beta.

This in theory should never happen if you have never used the avast beta, you would/should be on the regular release channel.
It never happened to me before and usally it says a new version of the program is available but this time it said it was a security update. And when you open the interface nothing says that this is a beta version. So hopefully it´s not. Don´t want any problems with this update. Was about to switch to Avast on my other pc but I think I wait for a while to see what happens on this update. And yesterday it was announced in this thread that this was a new beta version update. So i´m a bit confused to say the least.
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2318
Post by: bob3160 on November 09, 2017, 08:29:12 PM
David,
I downloaded the new version from the link posted in final release thread.

Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2318
Post by: DavidR on November 09, 2017, 11:19:01 PM
David,
I downloaded the new version from the link posted in final release thread.

That is all well and good, but what it doesn't do is get rid of all of this user confusion, when what has the same version number as the last beta to be released iin the regular update stream with the same bloody version number.

I have been banging on about this for some considerable time and it has been like this for years and the confusion is evident in the forums every time they do that.

It also doesn't help that the notification of a New Program Version doesn't appear in the main 'Avast Free Antivirus / Pro Antivirus / Internet Security/ Premier' section of the forums.

Again we have a beta that was released and the following day it is released as a regular program update - how can anything be tested in a day - a total waste of time bothering to release it as a beta. 

For all that could have been done/tested/feedback in a day, Avast could have released it under a regular program update with this 17.8.2318 version number that hadn't been used as a beta.  This would have alleviated the confusion we see in the forums when they do this.
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2318
Post by: bob3160 on November 09, 2017, 11:31:37 PM
Obviously I'm not happy with this process. I'm the one who insisted that the user who questioned the update must have been wrong.
All of that could have been avoided by simply using a different release naming policy.
Betas should have a beta connotation in the version. If that were the case, there wouldn't have been any confusion.
Avast doesn't agree with that. It's their program. We only use it. :)
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2318
Post by: Alikhan on November 09, 2017, 11:35:34 PM
They could use a different binary so the version number would change between BETA and Stable releases...
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2318
Post by: bob3160 on November 09, 2017, 11:40:04 PM
They could use a different binary so the version number would change between BETA and Stable releases...
Apparently that's not the current practice. This is what I was told.
"we discussed the beta and public many times already. it's the same binary so it has the same number
and yes we usually publish a day before a public release to do a last check for crashes"
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2318
Post by: TheLightgg on November 10, 2017, 12:16:51 PM
A normal user does not go to the forums, he updates his antivirus when the program sends him a notification.

A version number "release" may have the same number as the version "beta" if the version was deemed stable and deliverable.

Do not confuse the terms version number and build number which is quite different. I do not think the current "release" to the same build number as the "beta".

The only thing that is regrattable indeed is the forum which is a little abandoned by Avast and Avast could have effectively warned users of its forum the release of a new version before the addition of this new version in the channel of distribution "release".

But we must trust Avast and if a new version is available on the channel "release" is that it is a "stable" version ...
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2318
Post by: Michaelgarcia808 on November 16, 2017, 06:15:02 AM
the new version of avast has been using too much of my CPU to the point where i cant even play TF2 anymore, and it isn't even scanning. unless its trying to decode nuclear codes i don't see why it has to use 30% of my processor. plz fix.
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2318
Post by: bob3160 on November 16, 2017, 03:01:16 PM
the new version of avast has been using too much of my CPU to the point where i cant even play TF2 anymore, and it isn't even scanning. unless its trying to decode nuclear codes i don't see why it has to use 30% of my processor. plz fix.
Try the following:

Repair Avast:
Control Panel> Program and Features (Add/remove program)>Select Avast> Select Repair. Reboot when completed
https://www.avast.com/faq.php?article=AVKB204 (https://www.avast.com/faq.php?article=AVKB204)

If Repair doesn't fix the problem, try the following:
Clean Install of Avast:
https://goo.gl/4Ptzkf (https://goo.gl/4Ptzkf)
If you need additional help with the Clean Install, watch this:
https://youtu.be/p-h3myRD51A (https://youtu.be/p-h3myRD51A)
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2318
Post by: bob3160 on November 21, 2017, 02:33:39 PM
We seem to have skipped a week in the beta offerings.
Hope that means bug fixes are abundant. :)
Title: Re: New Beta version 17.8.2318
Post by: NON on November 21, 2017, 03:23:43 PM
We seem to have skipped a week in the beta offerings.
Hope that means bug fixes are abundant. :)
Let's wait and see a few more days, they often release betas on Thursday or Friday...  ;)