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Title: Why did Avast fail Virus Bulletin June 2006
Post by: JEfromCanada on June 29, 2006, 05:20:32 PM
Can someone from Alwil tell me why Virus Bulletin did not give a VB100% award to avast in its June 2006 test of avast for Windows XP.

I have confidence in this product, but my reputation is on the line for recommending it to several of my friends.  Thanks for your response.




Jack
Title: Re: Why did Avast fail Virus Bulletin June 2006
Post by: igor on June 29, 2006, 05:23:53 PM
Can someone from Alwil tell me why Virus Bulletin did not give a VB100% award to avast in its June 2006 test of avast for Windows XP.

Actually, that's not [going to be] correct ;)
Title: Re: Why did Avast fail Virus Bulletin June 2006
Post by: DavidR on June 29, 2006, 05:27:00 PM
I look at real life experiences and not just tests which as far as I'm aware only test the on-demand scan. As a happy avast users for over two years, I have confidence in avast, however no single program is going to provide full protection, so the use of multi-level compatible security programs will beef up your overall protection.

If you haven't already got this software (freeware), download, install, update and run it.
1. Ad-Aware (http://www.lavasoft.de/support/download)
2. Spybot Search and Destroy (http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php?lang=en&page=download)
3. Spywareblaster (http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html) Don't install this until you are clean.
4. Ewido Security Suite (http://www.ewido.net/en/) If using winXP. or a-Squared free (http://www.emsisoft.com/en/software/free/) if using win98/ME.
Title: Re: Why did Avast fail Virus Bulletin June 2006
Post by: Vlk on June 29, 2006, 07:08:26 PM
Avast will get the VB100% mark for the June 06 XP test, together with an apology, in the July 2006 issue (due in a couple of days).

During the test, avast was blamed for having three false positives; however, it turned out that these were in fact not false... ;)
Title: Re: Why did Avast fail Virus Bulletin June 2006
Post by: RejZoR on June 29, 2006, 07:09:23 PM
Rofl ;D
Title: Re: Why did Avast fail Virus Bulletin June 2006
Post by: JEfromCanada on June 29, 2006, 07:31:49 PM
Avast will get the VB100% mark for the June 06 XP test, together with an apology, in the July 2006 issue (due in a couple of days).

During the test, avast was blamed for having three false positives; however, it turned out that these were in fact not false... ;)
Thanks, that makes me feel better.

Does that mean that all other products that did NOT report those "false positives" as actual positives will be downgraded to a failure?   ;)
Title: Re: Why did Avast fail Virus Bulletin June 2006
Post by: JEfromCanada on June 29, 2006, 07:34:40 PM
[snip] however no single program is going to provide full protection, so the use of multi-level compatible security programs will beef up your overall protection [snip]

I agree, and I urge a multi-level approach to security - I just wanted to ensure that my current recommendation for virus protection was still valid.
Title: Re: Why did Avast fail Virus Bulletin June 2006
Post by: Vlk on June 29, 2006, 08:34:27 PM
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Does that mean that all other products that did NOT report those "false positives" as actual positives will be downgraded to a failure?

No, because they're not "ItW" samples (VB100% pass or failure is only given by the ability to detect ItW viruses)
Title: Re: Why did Avast fail Virus Bulletin June 2006
Post by: YLAP on June 29, 2006, 09:36:32 PM
During the test, avast was blamed for having three false positives; however, it turned out that these were in fact not false... ;)

LOL!  :o That's great!  ;D
Title: Re: Why did Avast fail Virus Bulletin June 2006
Post by: JerryM on June 29, 2006, 11:14:25 PM
Vlk,
That is good to know. I admit that I was surprised to see that Avast had not passed.

I wonder why they thought the three were FP? It seems to me that does not speak well for the tests.

Jerry
Title: Re: Why did Avast fail Virus Bulletin June 2006
Post by: igor on June 30, 2006, 10:49:08 AM
Well, let's put it this way: the files were very questionable. They were not really malicious, but it was not clear whether they should be detected or not. Such files should not be in a cleanset for an official test.
Title: Re: Why did Avast fail Virus Bulletin June 2006
Post by: JerryM on June 30, 2006, 10:45:42 PM
Well, let's put it this way: the files were very questionable. They were not really malicious, but it was not clear whether they should be detected or not. Such files should not be in a cleanset for an official test.


I agree, and that again, causes me to wonder as to the expertise of the testers. It is a sad fact that bad news travels fast, and an erroneous report is sometimes remembered while the correct version either not noticed or forgotten.

Best,
Jerry
Title: Re: Why did Avast fail Virus Bulletin June 2006
Post by: Vlk on July 01, 2006, 12:03:48 AM
It has happened a couple of times in the past, too.
Last time, it was Kasperky (if I remember correctly), about a year ago.

Once, it even happened to Avast (I think that was in 2001).


The problem is that the VB cleanset is not maintained too well - and sometimes, some questionable files slip in. This time, the files that avast was detecting were tools for adding the current user to the admin group, with the aid of a security hole in a Windows component. These were not false positives from avast - avast was detecting them intentionally (they were part of our database of samples). Strange that no other AV actually reported them as malicious... :)
Title: Re: Why did Avast fail Virus Bulletin June 2006
Post by: JerryM on July 01, 2006, 12:17:36 AM
Thanks for the additional information. Avast is too good an AV to suffer from such errors. However, I do not think a lot of folks are even aware of the test, and those of us who are can understand the problem, and that it is not an Avast shortcoming.

Best,
Jerry
Title: Re: Why did Avast fail Virus Bulletin June 2006
Post by: chocholo on July 03, 2006, 04:42:03 PM
http://www.avast.com/eng/100-virus-bulletin-award.html
http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archive/2006/06 (free registration required)
http://www.virusbtn.com/news/vb_news/2006/07_01b.xml
Title: Re: Why did Avast fail Virus Bulletin June 2006
Post by: sc0rre on July 03, 2006, 06:50:11 PM
http://www.avast.com/eng/100-virus-bulletin-award.html
http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archive/2006/06 (free registration required)

That is indeed good news.
Also see:
http://www.virusbtn.com/news/vb_news/2006/07_01b.xml (free registration required)