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Title: New Version of Windows - 1903
Post by: Humph.B on June 13, 2019, 08:06:39 PM
I am currently on Winver 1809. The midweek Update, after I had searched to see if there are any I missed, offered the 1903. But I did not install it.

I have read reports on the MSM that this coming 1903 version is especially intrusive and bloating.

Is that true?
Title: Re: New Version of Windows - 1903
Post by: bob3160 on June 13, 2019, 08:11:11 PM
No problems here and I have it installed on 4 computers.
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=156141.msg1506768#msg1506768 (https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=156141.msg1506768#msg1506768)
Title: Re: New Version of Windows - 1903
Post by: Humph.B on June 14, 2019, 10:08:18 AM
Hello bob,
I have just tried your "disable avast self-protection" trick that you mentioned on your link. Thanks for that. I knew it would take time so I went for a walk. Now, one hour later Function updates are stuck at 99%.
Does this mean I should wait until later this month to update 1809 to 1903?
Title: Re: New Version of Windows - 1903
Post by: bob3160 on June 14, 2019, 02:32:56 PM
Hello bob,
I have just tried your "disable avast self-protection" trick that you mentioned on your link. Thanks for that. I knew it would take time so I went for a walk. Now, one hour later Function updates are stuck at 99%.
Does this mean I should wait until later this month to update 1809 to 1903?
No it means your making progress. Have patience. Rome wasn't built in a day neither was the Windows 1903 upgrade. :)
Title: Re: New Version of Windows - 1903
Post by: Humph.B on June 14, 2019, 10:50:07 PM
Rome wasn't built in a day neither was the Windows 1903 upgrade :)
It worked 2nd time lucky, using your "disable avast self-protection" trick, & re-enabled as soon as the update was installed.
It took 10GB of storage space, however, so I may look into how much bloatware is there that I can uninstall.
Avast has not switched off Win Defender in this 1903 version, which gives us a second layer of protection.
Title: Re: New Version of Windows - 1903
Post by: bob3160 on June 14, 2019, 11:01:42 PM
Rome wasn't built in a day neither was the Windows 1903 upgrade :)
It worked 2nd time lucky, using your "disable avast self-protection" trick, & re-enabled as soon as the update was installed.
It took 10GB of storage space, however, so I may look into how much bloatware is there that I can uninstall.
Avast has not switched off Win Defender in this 1903 version, which gives us a second layer of protection.
You're welcome.
This is what you should see:
(https://screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1560546066693-2613.png)
It simply means that Avast is your main protection. Defender is just there as a backup but isn't resident.
Title: Re: New Version of Windows - 1903
Post by: Humph.B on June 15, 2019, 12:07:30 AM
bob,
I forgot to ask : why, according to CCleaner, has this update not installed a system restore point as do most large updates?
The update is running well, but surely that makes it all the more desirable to create a system restore point, doesn't it?
Title: Re: New Version of Windows - 1903
Post by: bob3160 on June 15, 2019, 12:56:12 AM
bob,
I forgot to ask : why, according to CCleaner, has this update not installed a system restore point as do most large updates?
The update is running well, but surely that makes it all the more desirable to create a system restore point, doesn't it?
You can roll back to the old version for up to 30 days after the update.
(https://screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1560552811237-8544.png)

System Restore isn't really all that reliable. I always suggest an image backup prior to a major upgrade just in case.
(I create an image every week.)
Once your're happy with this version. I suggest you clean things up an gain some HD space by getting rid of all the old version files.
(https://screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1560552932300-96318.png)

Title: Re: New Version of Windows - 1903
Post by: Humph.B on June 15, 2019, 09:03:14 AM
Thanks bob,

The main reason I followed the MS prompt  to update the version was for the “increased security” that  it claimed. But I suppose MS had to say that;)

“Once you’re happy with this version. I suggest you clean things up and gain some HD space by getting rid of all the old version files.”
Good suggestion.
The only Disc Drive clean-up I have used ever is -> Win Explorer-> Right-click on Drive C->Properties-> Clean. I guess that is what you mean.
 Then, as Administrator you get the option to ”clean  System files” which are normally big, but in this case HUGE : it says that 33.6 GB can be saved of which 30.3 GB is from Previous Versions. If the system says these System files are the ones from the old version, then I guess that is what I will do!
I will have to trust it.
At the moment I have 172 GB left out of total 237 GB (as new presumably), so wiping the Previous Versions’ 30.3 GB would be great.
Title: Re: New Version of Windows - 1903
Post by: bob3160 on June 15, 2019, 02:20:47 PM
Correct provided you also select "cleanup system files"
(https://screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1560600710185-72105.png)
You could also use Storage Sense to clean up prior previous installs of Windows.



Title: Re: New Version of Windows - 1903
Post by: Humph.B on June 15, 2019, 03:10:55 PM
Yes  select "cleanup system files", that is what I meant with 'as Administrator you get the option to ”clean  System files” ' which like your illustration specifies the previous version files but with 30.3 GB's worth to remove on my PC.
Thanks for confirming.
Title: Re: New Version of Windows - 1903
Post by: bob3160 on June 15, 2019, 03:16:32 PM
I had over 40 gig that I was able to recover.
Once you make that move, you are stuck with the current version. No going back. :)
Title: Re: New Version of Windows - 1903
Post by: Humph.B on June 15, 2019, 07:43:01 PM
Well, as I was satisfied with the new update compared to the earlier two versions present since early November when I bought the device from the retail chain with Windows 10 pre-installed, I went ahead. Couldn't see the point of keeping them.
Explorer says I saved 21 GB on Drive C which isn't bad (193 GB free now), although Properties distinctly indicated that 30.3 GB would be saved, which is odd. MS arithmetic is different to mine, then.