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Title: Avast 19.7.2388
Post by: bob3160 on August 15, 2019, 11:39:25 PM
I receive a notice of a new version but see no announcement?
(https://screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1565904982895-44230.png)
I've updated via the UI.
Title: Re: Avast 19.7.2388
Post by: DavidR on August 16, 2019, 12:16:43 AM
Yes, they have sneaked this one out with no fanfare in the forums :)

I always wonder if program updates should be released so close to the weekend.
Title: Re: Avast 19.7.2388
Post by: bob3160 on August 16, 2019, 12:21:06 AM
Yes, they have sneaked this one out with no fanfare in the forums :)

I always wonder if program updates should be released so close to the weekend.
Many of us have voiced our concern about that practice.
For me it's easy if something really goes badly. :)
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=19387.msg1515597#msg1515597 (https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=19387.msg1515597#msg1515597)
Title: Re: Avast 19.7.2388
Post by: schmidthouse on August 16, 2019, 12:26:38 AM
Yup lots of talk and confusion on this one. :-\
Title: Re: Avast 19.7.2388
Post by: DavidR on August 16, 2019, 12:35:23 AM
Yes, they have sneaked this one out with no fanfare in the forums :)

I always wonder if program updates should be released so close to the weekend.
Many of us have voiced our concern about that practice.
For me it's easy if something really goes badly. :)
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=19387.msg1515597#msg1515597 (https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=19387.msg1515597#msg1515597)

Have been playing with that one today on my win10 system, created a RollBackRX point prior to Firefox and Avast Updates.

Starting to get a little familiar with its notices pre-startup.
Title: Re: Avast 19.7.2388
Post by: bob3160 on August 16, 2019, 12:38:59 AM
When things go totally wrong, just hit the HOME button. :)
Title: Re: Avast 19.7.2388
Post by: DavidGB on August 16, 2019, 12:39:33 AM
Well, it's the same version number as the last one mentioned in the beta sub-forum.

And reading all the changes in the all the beta 19.7 versions' first posts I am disappointed to see that there's nothing related to my one issue I reported some time ago - Avast blocks the use of the Connect function in the Windows 10 Action Centre, which actually uses Miracast to project the laptop screen onto e.g. a Miracast enabled TV or onto a TV via a Roku Express, which does Miracast. And Avast doesn't even pop up a notification to say it stopped it or offer to allow it.
Title: Re: Avast 19.7.2388
Post by: bob3160 on August 16, 2019, 12:58:57 AM
Well, it's the same version number as the last one mentioned in the beta sub-forum.

And reading all the changes in the all the beta 19.7 versions' first posts I am disappointed to see that there's nothing related to my one issue I reported some time ago - Avast blocks the use of the Connect function in the Windows 10 Action Centre, which actually uses Miracast to project the laptop screen onto e.g. a Miracast enabled TV or onto a TV via a Roku Express, which does Miracast. And Avast doesn't even pop up a notification to say it stopped it or offer to allow it.
I'm using the free version and I'm not having any problems as you can see from this picture I just took.
(https://screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1565909902902-84997.png)
Title: Re: Avast 19.7.2388
Post by: DavidGB on August 16, 2019, 01:04:50 AM
I'm using the paid version, and it's the Firewall that blocks the Miracast, which isn't in the free version. And they've removed the configuration options that would allow proper use - the only way currently is to use settings that open far too wide a hole. I told them exactly what the problem was, and how the now hardwired 'friends' list is blocking reserved private address ranges and reserved ports it shouldn't, which Miracast uses.
Title: Re: Avast 19.7.2388
Post by: bob3160 on August 16, 2019, 01:15:33 AM
I'm using the paid version, and it's the Firewall that blocks the Miracast, which isn't in the free version. And they've removed the configuration options that would allow proper use - the only way currently is to use settings that open far too wide a hole. I told them exactly what the problem was, and how the now hardwired 'friends' list is blocking reserved private address ranges and reserved ports it shouldn't, which Miracast uses.
I'm quite happy with the firewall in Windows 10. :)
Title: Re: Avast 19.7.2388
Post by: DavidGB on August 16, 2019, 01:26:45 AM

I'm quite happy with the firewall in Windows 10. :)

I'm not.  :(

But you would think that Avast would fix something that prevents a feature of Windows 10 from working - and not some obscure feature, but one with a honking great on/off button in the Action Centre. Maybe they are just relying  on the fact that because Avast doesn't put up a notification, users won't realise that it's the Avast Firewall stopping the built in Windows 10 screen casting working.
Title: Re: Avast 19.7.2388
Post by: bob3160 on August 16, 2019, 01:31:35 AM
Reported to Avast. Let's see if that helps.
Title: Re: Avast 19.7.2388
Post by: DavidGB on August 16, 2019, 01:38:24 AM
Reported to Avast. Let's see if that helps.

Thanks. Hope it does better than the support ticket I opened with chapter and verse on the details of the problem, the reserved-as-private IP ranges that should be in the 'Friend networks but aren't etc.
Title: Re: Avast 19.7.2388
Post by: GEGEPING on August 16, 2019, 07:18:11 AM
Hi,

Is there a link to download it?

I mean the full version Off line.

GG
Title: Re: Avast 19.7.2388
Post by: Asyn on August 16, 2019, 08:41:35 AM
I'm using the paid version, and it's the Firewall that blocks the Miracast, which isn't in the free version. And they've removed the configuration options that would allow proper use - the only way currently is to use settings that open far too wide a hole. I told them exactly what the problem was, and how the now hardwired 'friends' list is blocking reserved private address ranges and reserved ports it shouldn't, which Miracast uses.
Try the Geek Area settings, mentioned here: https://forum.avast.com/index.php?msg=1505540
Title: Re: Avast 19.7.2388
Post by: Asyn on August 16, 2019, 08:43:09 AM
Hi,

Is there a link to download it?

I mean the full version Off line.

GG
-> https://forum.avast.com/index.php?msg=527512
Title: Re: Avast 19.7.2388
Post by: GEGEPING on August 16, 2019, 09:54:18 AM
Hi :)

Thanks for the link ;)

Now it's not the 19.7.2388 it's 19.7.4674.0 :o

The most important is that it's a full version working well 8)

Will unstall previous and put the new one and post a message after.

GG
Title: Re: Avast 19.7.2388
Post by: Asyn on August 16, 2019, 09:56:50 AM
You're welcome.
Title: Re: Avast 19.7.2388
Post by: Asyn on August 16, 2019, 09:59:03 AM
Now it's not the 19.7.2388 it's 19.7.4674.0 :o
That's the same, first is the version, second is the build#.
Title: Re: Avast 19.7.2388
Post by: bob3160 on August 16, 2019, 01:45:05 PM
Hi,

Is there a link to download it?

I mean the full version Off line.

GG
-> https://forum.avast.com/index.php?msg=527512 (https://forum.avast.com/index.php?msg=527512)
Hi Asyn,
I think all of us are looking for the official announcement from Avast on the main forum. :)
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=228911.msg1515607#new (https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=228911.msg1515607#new)
Title: Re: Avast 19.7.2388
Post by: DavidGB on August 16, 2019, 01:45:38 PM
I'm using the paid version, and it's the Firewall that blocks the Miracast, which isn't in the free version. And they've removed the configuration options that would allow proper use - the only way currently is to use settings that open far too wide a hole. I told them exactly what the problem was, and how the now hardwired 'friends' list is blocking reserved private address ranges and reserved ports it shouldn't, which Miracast uses.
Try the Geek Area settings, mentioned here: https://forum.avast.com/index.php?msg=1505540

I did. And the old settings. I started a thread about it when it first came up for me, and we went through all that. The only setting that allows the Miracast screen projection isn't intended for that and opens up the firewall far more than is necessary, and far more than I am comfortable with.

The point is that not only does the Avast Firewall block a Windows 10 ability that isn't even an obscure one (dirty great button in the Action Centre), but it doesn't put up any message that it's done it, let alone offer the user the choice to allow it - so the user may not figure that the problem is Avast and just think the Windows 10 function is broken (as i did before digging in to investigate - at first I assumed a Windows 10 update had broken the screen projection since I'd last used the function when I was still using Comodo Internet Security). And the settings that should exist to deal with this - the 'Friends' page in the old settings, which shows that chunks of the reserved-for-private iP address ranges as per IANA and IETF standards have not been set as 'Friends when they should be - has been deactivated so the user cannot even add them when needed like for this. It's been hardwired now that only the 127.x.x.x and 192.168.1.x reserved-for-private ranges are 'friends', and the user cannot add the rest of those reserved ranges.

And in any case, the user shouldn't need to dig into the bowels of obscure parts of Avast to permit a front-and-centre Windows 10 function that they're not even told Avast is blocking. If the 'friends' (I hate this childish nomenclature) networks were set to include all the ranges that are reserved for use within a private network, as they should be, the Windows 10 built-in Miracast Connect would just work (like it does with several other Firewalls to my knowledge); and at worst on first use of the Miracast Connect Avast should pop-up a dialogue asking whether to allow it and remember the answer. I find it both amazing and frustrating that Avast, so good in so many respects, is so screwed up on this issue. The IP ranges reserved for use within private networks in the IANA and IETF STDs and RFCs are reserved for a reason and the ranges published for a reason. Avast should be configured to support all of them, and while it's bad enough that it isn't, the fact that the old settings actually allowed it to be corrected by the user but the page where the user can do that is still displayed but has been made non-functional is infuriating.
Title: Re: Avast 19.7.2388
Post by: Asyn on August 16, 2019, 01:48:23 PM
Hi,

Is there a link to download it?

I mean the full version Off line.

GG
-> https://forum.avast.com/index.php?msg=527512 (https://forum.avast.com/index.php?msg=527512)
Hi Asyn,
I think all of us are looking for the official announcement from Avast on the main forum. :)
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=228911.msg1515607#new (https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=228911.msg1515607#new)
Hi Bob, yes, but it wasn't there when I posted my reply. ;)
Title: Re: Avast 19.7.2388
Post by: Asyn on August 16, 2019, 01:50:31 PM
I'm using the paid version, and it's the Firewall that blocks the Miracast, which isn't in the free version. And they've removed the configuration options that would allow proper use - the only way currently is to use settings that open far too wide a hole. I told them exactly what the problem was, and how the now hardwired 'friends' list is blocking reserved private address ranges and reserved ports it shouldn't, which Miracast uses.
Try the Geek Area settings, mentioned here: https://forum.avast.com/index.php?msg=1505540
I did. And the old settings. I started a thread about it when it first came up for me, and we went through all that. The only setting that allows the Miracast screen projection isn't intended for that and opens up the firewall far more than is necessary, and far more than I am comfortable with.

The point is that not only does the Avast Firewall block a Windows 10 ability that isn't even an obscure one (dirty great button in the Action Centre), but it doesn't put up any message that it's done it, let alone offer the user the choice to allow it - so the user may not figure that the problem is Avast and just think the Windows 10 function is broken (as i did before digging in to investigate - at first I assumed a Windows 10 update had broken the screen projection since I'd last used the function when I was still using Comodo Internet Security). And the settings that should exist to deal with this - the 'Friends' page in the old settings, which shows that chunks of the reserved-for-private iP address ranges as per IANA and IETF standards have not been set as 'Friends when they should be - has been deactivated so the user cannot even add them when needed like for this. It's been hardwired now that only the 127.x.x.x and 192.168.1.x reserved-for-private ranges are 'friends', and the user cannot add the rest of those reserved ranges.

And in any case, the user shouldn't need to dig into the bowels of obscure parts of Avast to permit a front-and-centre Windows 10 function that they're not even told Avast is blocking. If the 'friends' (I hate this childish nomenclature) networks were set to include all the ranges that are reserved for use within a private network, as they should be, the Windows 10 built-in Miracast Connect would just work (like it does with several other Firewalls to my knowledge); and at worst on first use of the Miracast Connect Avast should pop-up a dialogue asking whether to allow it and remember the answer. I find it both amazing and frustrating that Avast, so good in so many respects, is so screwed up on this issue. The IP ranges reserved for use within private networks in the IANA and IETF STDs and RFCs are reserved for a reason and the ranges published for a reason. Avast should be configured to support all of them, and while it's bad enough that it isn't, the fact that the old settings actually allowed it to be corrected by the user but the page where the user can do that is still displayed but has been made non-functional is infuriating.
Hi David, best you continue here: https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=228911.0
Title: Re: Avast 19.7.2388
Post by: bob3160 on August 16, 2019, 01:57:53 PM
Hi,

Is there a link to download it?

I mean the full version Off line.

GG
-> https://forum.avast.com/index.php?msg=527512 (https://forum.avast.com/index.php?msg=527512)
Hi Asyn,
I think all of us are looking for the official announcement from Avast on the main forum. :)
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=228911.msg1515607#new (https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=228911.msg1515607#new)
Hi Bob, yes, but it wasn't there when I posted my reply. ;)
That's obviously why I posted the official link. :)
Title: Re: Avast 19.7.2388
Post by: Asyn on August 16, 2019, 02:01:13 PM
Hi,

Is there a link to download it?

I mean the full version Off line.

GG
-> https://forum.avast.com/index.php?msg=527512 (https://forum.avast.com/index.php?msg=527512)
Hi Asyn,
I think all of us are looking for the official announcement from Avast on the main forum. :)
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=228911.msg1515607#new (https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=228911.msg1515607#new)
Hi Bob, yes, but it wasn't there when I posted my reply. ;)
That's obviously why I posted the official link. :)
Good job. :)