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Other => General Topics => Topic started by: bob3160 on August 23, 2006, 08:28:11 PM
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Ashampoo Firewall
Full version now totally FREE
http://www.ashampoo.com/frontend/products/php/product.php?idstring=0050&session_langid=2
Opinions Please
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After reading up on this program I believe it will be a user friendly effective firewall. Probably will want to try it out in the near future. :)
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Hello guys !!!
Yes, this sounds like a promising firewall. I will be checking it next few days. If I'm satisfied with results, I am sure I will leave it protecting my system.
It would be really nice if we can find some good (objective) reviews about this firewall... and when I say reviews, I mean reviews done by some valuable firewall experts, not some 25-years-working-for-New-York-Times-journalist. Experiences like that are much appreciated, but not in this field. We need some good people who understand firewalls and antivirus software in and out.
Regards!
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A tough dilema between Comodo Personal Firewall and this one ;D
Actually it's nto that hard to evaluate firewall. At least it should pass GRC ShieldsUp! tst anytime you test it, everything else is down to user preference (number of settings, GUI design and stuff like that).
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Rejzor i'm sure Jetio 2.0 final made it even harder :)
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Not really. Jetico is still way to advanced for regular Joe...
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Hopefully the one from Ashampoo is easier even though it's rule based.....
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A tough dilema between Comodo Personal Firewall and this one ;D
RejZor... I'll wait your opinion about it... I'm with Comodo right now, it's working ok...
But I can't wait that long to test another freeware ;D ;D
Let us know what do you feel with this new firewall.
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I found Jetico unbelievable annoying firewall (just MHO)... with all those pop-ups that wouldn't stop for anything in the World. Even though you confirm everything tens of times, it would still keep asking same questions. Many people reported same issue.
I am testing Ashampoo and I really like what I see. It passed all those tests, so it looks like it does what it should do... to protect. I know I have my hardware router as well, but still this is nice addition.
Bob, take a look at this screenshot:
(http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/6566/untitled1ym3.jpg)
Something for everyone :)
Cheers !
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Another few interesting windows and features:
Additional features:
(http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/460/additionalrt2.jpg)
Configuration window plus Configuration Assistant for beginners:
(http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/9385/configxx4.jpg)
Logs Window:
(http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/2728/logsbw7.jpg)
Initial Rules window (there is few more sections when you need to edit or setup your rules):
(http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/9663/rulesge4.jpg)
Stats window:
(http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/3467/statszj0.jpg)
And this is how memory usage looks like right now. I've noticed sometimes it goes up to 8, 10, 14 which is still much better than Kerio, ZA and many others out there.
(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7768/memusagesq0.jpg)
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Thank you Sasha for taking the plunge and pointing out the easy feature.
Even the rules don't look that hard to set up.
It'll go on my main system as soon as I get it back from the shop.... :'(
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Even the rules don't look that hard to set up.
Can we set specific ports like in Comodo?
I mean, network control rules?
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I tried it, it failed all the GRC tests, so I got rid of it.
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Thank You Sasha for taking the time to share your results with this new free product. Appreciate it. :)
Edit: I know that I didn't see anything from this company that stated their Firewall would work with a Win 98, ME machine etc. I e-mail them, asked that question and they responded with it only works with Win 2000 and XP systems.
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I tried it, it failed all the GRC tests, so I got rid of it.
If this is true, it's very bad... Haven't tested it but ANY personal firewall should pass this test out of the box. Otherwise it's not worth using as firewall...
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I tried it, it failed all the GRC tests, so I got rid of it.
If this is true, it's very bad... Haven't tested it but ANY personal firewall should pass this test out of the box. Otherwise it's not worth using as firewall...
Hey RejZoR, It passed the tests until I turned off Windows firewall and that's when shields up showed that my ports were closed ( not stealthed) and that the ping request went through. I'm back to COMODO now.
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I tried it, it failed all the GRC tests, so I got rid of it.
If this is true, it's very bad... Haven't tested it but ANY personal firewall should pass this test out of the box. Otherwise it's not worth using as firewall...
Couldn't agree more as the grc.com leak test is very basic and only one, there are many more devious ones out there as shown on the http://www.firewallleaktester.com/index.html site.
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Hello!
Just a question, i use Tiny Personal Firewall and i set it on "Ask me..."
for every incoming and outgoing conections, and i made the ShieldsUP tests and the result was that all the ports are stealth, exept two ports, port=0 , and port=1 wich were closed....I did not made any changes to the firewall, so is this bad thing, that this two ports are closed and not invisible?? ::) Or I will have to make some changes...I dont like when i feel not protected :-\
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How is the self protection of this Firewall?
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I tried it, it failed all the GRC tests, so I got rid of it.
If this is true, it's very bad... Haven't tested it but ANY personal firewall should pass this test out of the box. Otherwise it's not worth using as firewall...
Couldn't agree more as the grc.com leak test is very basic and only one, there are many more devious ones out there as shown on the http://www.firewallleaktester.com/index.html site.
Actually i meant the port probing test and not leak test...
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Right, so it will be interesting to see if it fails the leak test also.
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Right, so it will be interesting to see if it fails the leak test also.
Hey David, Actually it passed GRC's leak test. (for me anyway)
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Can we set specific ports like in Comodo? I mean, network control rules?
Nobody answered :'(
Comodo passes GRC Port Scanning:
Results from scan of ports: 0, 21-23, 25, 79, 80, 110, 113,
119, 135, 139, 143, 389, 443, 445,
1002, 1024-1030, 1720, 5000
0 Ports Open
0 Ports Closed
26 Ports Stealth
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26 Ports Tested
ALL PORTS tested were found to be: STEALTH.
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Even the rules don't look that hard to set up.
Can we set specific ports like in Comodo?
I mean, network control rules?
Yes you can Tech. See here:
(http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/9475/untitled1aa5.jpg)
marc57 wrote:
I tried it, it failed all the GRC tests, so I got rid of it.
That's not true... it passed every single test I tried and it passed tooleaky as well
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I tried it, it failed all the GRC tests, so I got rid of it.
If this is true, it's very bad... Haven't tested it but ANY personal firewall should pass this test out of the box. Otherwise it's not worth using as firewall...
It passed every single test at GRC or any other serious testing site. As I mentioned it also passed tooleaky.exe
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Can we set specific ports like in Comodo? I mean, network control rules?
Nobody answered :'(
Comodo passes GRC Port Scanning:
Results from scan of ports: 0, 21-23, 25, 79, 80, 110, 113,
119, 135, 139, 143, 389, 443, 445,
1002, 1024-1030, 1720, 5000
0 Ports Open
0 Ports Closed
26 Ports Stealth
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26 Ports Tested
ALL PORTS tested were found to be: STEALTH.
Tech I answered up there. Take a look at results of the scan I just did for third time:
(http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/2220/untitled1uv7.jpg)
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I just tested it with Gibson's Leak test. Firewall won't allow anything to pass by unless you are stupid enough to press ALLOW on each and every request ;D ;D ;D
Results are here:
(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2278/1bn8.jpg)
(http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/9927/2um1.jpg)
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I tried it, it failed all the GRC tests, so I got rid of it.
If this is true, it's very bad... Haven't tested it but ANY personal firewall should pass this test out of the box. Otherwise it's not worth using as firewall...
It passed every single test at GRC or any other serious testing site. As I mentioned it also passed tooleaky.exe
Hi S.Z.Craftec, when first installed it passed all the GRC tests until I noticed that windows firewall was still on. After I turned WF off it then failed the GRC tests. I tried to un-install and re-install but it didn't help, but it did pass the GRC leak test. Maybe it was something with my system that didn't let it install right. (COMODO works fine though)
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It passed all the GRC and PC Flank tests for me, including both leak tests. This was with the Windows Firewall off and connecting straight into the modem without benefit of the router.
I'm not very happy with the most recent version of Zone Alarm (6.5.731) and I think I've found the replacement.
Unlike Sasha, though, its using over 17,000 of ram which I believe is more than ZA used on my computer.
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Yes you're right. As I already mentioned, ram usage fluctuates, but in overall I've noticed that this firewall is really "quiet" and also very important thing... I've noticed that system starts quite faster than before, epsecially back then when I used Kerio.
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Hello!
Just a question, i use Tiny Personal Firewall and i set it on "Ask me..."
for every incoming and outgoing conections, and i made the ShieldsUP tests and the result was that all the ports are stealth, exept two ports, port=0 , and port=1 wich were closed....I did not made any changes to the firewall, so is this bad thing, that this two ports are closed and not invisible?? ::) Or I will have to make some changes...I dont like when i feel not protected :-\
Hi,pls see this http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=695699&postcount=4 Hope this helps, tim
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Hi Tim,
This is not helping me much as it is for Tiny Firewall 2005 ( it costs a lot too), my firewall is old version Tiny Personal Firewall 2.0.15A (freeware version). I like it couse its not slowing the computer and it's fast too, also if you make the configuration properly it gives an exellent protection as i read somewhere its one of the first firewall that passed the Leack test I did some google search but i still cant find anything on this making all the ports stealth for this version of TPFW.
Anyway thanks for the reply :)
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SNOWHITE
Maybe it's time to change your Firewall ? :)
Thanks again Sasha for the testing.
If I only had my computer back, I'd be able to install it to. :'(
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Right, so it will be interesting to see if it fails the leak test also.
Hey David, Actually it passed GRC's leak test. (for me anyway)
Time for a vist to the firewallleaktester.com link I gave and see what that throws up.
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SNOWHITE
Maybe it's time to change your Firewall ? :)
Thanks again Sasha for the testing.
If I only had my computer back, I'd be able to install it to. :'(
Hi bob ;)....e he heh ;D i am not going to uninstall TPFW just like that, i need this FW, its lighter than all other FW that i have tryed and heard about it.Just becouse is old version doesnt mean that he cant protect my computer :P exept if someone give me a good explenation why to uninstall it....
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Time for a vist to the firewallleaktester.com link I gave and see what that throws up.
I tested it with Gibson's test and few others and it passed:
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=372ccff8e6982bdd2cf60d6d9947912a&topic=23060.msg190600#msg190600
However, I don't believe there is any other firewall out there that will pass every single one of those tests listed on that page.
I also tried to test FireHole.exe and avast! reported some trojan or something:
(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/4773/untitled1nm6.jpg)
Don't know is it a false positive or what...
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Hi bob ;)....e he heh ;D i am not going to uninstall TPFW just like that, i need this FW, its lighter than all other FW that i have tryed and heard about it.Just becouse is old version doesnt mean that he cant protect my computer :P exept if someone give me a good explenation why to uninstall it....
Good reason is the fact that firewall is outdated and probably there are no security updates for it any more... people out there are searching for new ways how to breach your security and accordingly to that, your firewall protection must be up to date in order to fully protect you.
The lightest firewall I had installed was Look'n'Stop, wonderful simple looking firewall, rule based with wonderful options and features. It was so light on system resources it's unbelievable...
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Saha that warning probably came up because the program you used is considered by CA and others as a
Probe Tool : A tool that explores another system, looking for vulnerabilities. While these can be used by security managers, wishing to shore up their security, the tools are as likely used by attackers to evaluate where to start an attack. An example is an NT Security Scanner.
Which can be used for both good an evil depending on the person using the tool.
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Ashampoo is very basic. Read about what they found out in wilders:
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=140427&page=2
No need to get enthusiast to some newcomer fw. It never pays to do so.
The only one that have raised some real interest is Comodo. It is a bit resource heavy etc. for my liking. I have not tested it nor intend cause I am happy with my current setup.
But filseclab, netveda, they are gonners I think
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Ashampoo is very basic. Read about what they found out in wilders:
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=140427&page=2
No need to get enthusiast to some newcomer fw. It never pays to do so.
That's not what all the tests that Sasha has hone reveal.
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This is the best one:
AJohn wrote:
Looks like the firewall needs a lot of work. Will be interesting to see how it does when considering how advanced Comodo is becoming and how advanced Outpost already is.
Of course they are becoming "advanced" but you can also see that on your mem usage and system resources usage. I don't need some tool that's supposed to be installed just as a neccessity, not a luxury, and take all my system resources. Antiviruses and Firewalls should be something that we don't even know it's installed on our systems. Computers are here for doing businesses and be creative, not to turn them into security fortresses. These programs should be as light as they can be.
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Antiviruses and Firewalls should be something that we don't even know it's installed on our systems. Computers are here for doing businesses and be creative, not to turn them into security fortresses. These programs should be as light as they can be.
Yes Sasha, in an ideal world. Truth is that many are happy with XP SP2 firewall, and it is ok in itself. It passes all the scan site tests like grc just fine.
But truth is also, that a good software firewall needs to have control over inbound and outbound connections, ports, protocols etc. I don't see what I read in wilders and what you posted here it can. Any firewall these days can of course pass grc leaktest, heh.
Many people also run HIPS programs. Like me PG free and SnoopFree. So it is not an ideal world by far. And i am also by far not a most paranoid user.
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But truth is also, that a good software firewall needs to have control over inbound and outbound connections, ports, protocols etc. I don't see what I read in wilders and what you posted here it can. Any firewall these days can of course pass grc leaktest, heh.
It's a question also asked by Tech and it was answered. Maybe it's time to re-read the thread again? :)
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Bob, Tech did a good guestion, and the answer from Sasha was among my post above and what i read in wilders. It does not have that capability, sadly. :(
Sasha unfortunately as a graphic designer (I refused to him get me an avatar one cause I like to surf naked as he said) gets sometimes carried away a bit too much with a good fancy firewall user interface.
Hope you don't mind Sasha my comment and we be ok.
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I also tried to test FireHole.exe and avast! reported some trojan or something:
Many of them make avast! react and some just wouldn't run for me. These are the results I got:
Leak Test - Passed
Tooleaky - Passed
Firehole - Would not run/avast! alerted
Yalta - Classical Test failed
Advanced test was grayed out
Outbound - Would not run
PCAudit - Would not run/avast! alerted
AWFT - Test 1 failed
Test 2 would not run/avast! alerted
Test 3 would not run/avast! alerted
Test 4 Passed/avast! alerted
Test 5 Passed/avast! alerted
Test 6 would not run/avast! alerted
DNS Tester - Failed
Surfer - Results not clear - appers to have failed
Breakout - Test 1 woud not run/avast! alerted
Test 2 failed
Jumper - Failed
CPIL - Failed
Thermite - Would not run/avast! alerted
Copy Cat - Would not run
MB Test - Would not run
Wallbreaker - Tests 1,2,3, and 4 failed
PC Audit - Failed
Ghost - Failed
PC Flank - Passed
Maybe someone can try those tests that would not run for me.
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Nice work mauserme.
What worries me same as you are those avast alerts.
Then again leaktests are not all are to be considered.
I have never dared to run qkweb's ones (hope I spelled the nick right since only from my memory) since I don't want no unnecessary alerts from my antimalware progs like avast.
Eicar is the test virus, it should be the only one it reports as malware if it is really not?
Anything else confuses users!!!
But shows avast is on par with some heuristic scanning, unless those tests are really badware? Avast should not report on leaktests unless they are malware! But heuristic's working is good though.
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It does not have that capability, sadly. :(
If confirmed, it's not for me and not for anyone that uses a router + P2P program, as you can't have high ID to download without full control over the firewall port (network) access.
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This firewall have some problems with the rules, and still needs a lot of work to became usable, so...
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Will just be another stripped down version, they are coming out with an Ashampoo Personal Firewall Pro, which will cost money. Those who paid for the Ashampoo Firewall before it was announced free, will get the Pro version free of charge.
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How is the self protection of this Firewall?
So far I've liked this firewall but ...
The process is terminated quite easily with the task manager and after I ran a Spybot S&D scan this morning I find that the Windows Firewall notification has been disabled (see attachment). This was not the case prior to installing AShampoo so my assumption is that AShampoo disabled the notification. Hopefully they will have better protection in a future version as this seems to be a rather large potential security gap.
@Sasha
Can you see if this is the situation for you as well?
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Hopefully they will have better protection in a future version as this seems to be a rather large potential security gap.
Hi mauserme,
Actually it's not.
If you read the explanation, it specifically said:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/bob3160/Firewall.png)
I know that ZoneAlarm and probably many other Firewall programs disable the Windows Firewall if they are active.
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They might well disable the windows firewall but they shouldn't disable the firewall notification that would indicate your firewall has been disabled.
However looking at the image it the notification would appear to have been disabled. FirewallDisableNotify!=dword: 0 the 0 usually means off so if the so the notification has been disabled/switched off not just the windows firewall. Change the value to 1 (on) should resolve that and Spybot S&D shouldn't object.
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Your right Bob3160 about Windows Firewall being shut down by another Firewall. Ex: I use Kerio, here's what they say>". Note: Kerio will automatically disable the Windows Firewall that is included in Windows XP. " It doesn't say it will disable the notification however. Not sure if the Ashampoo is disabling the notification or not.
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I'm just going by what the notification in S&D said which is the program that mauserme used
and who's results he questioned. Those aren't my words, they come directly from the S&D program.
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How is the self protection of this Firewall?
So far I've liked this firewall but ...
The process is terminated quite easily with the task manager and after I ran a Spybot S&D scan this morning I find that the Windows Firewall notification has been disabled (see attachment). This was not the case prior to installing AShampoo so my assumption is that AShampoo disabled the notification. Hopefully they will have better protection in a future version as this seems to be a rather large potential security gap.
@Sasha
Can you see if this is the situation for you as well?
I just checked it and my settings are unchanged. Everything is exactly same as it was prior installing this Firewall. See attachment:
(http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/4064/untitled1hs3.jpg)
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hey s.z.craftec...you are hard to get ahold of-go to interesting topic- i made you something in return for my GREAT GARFIELD AVATAR ::)
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These are two simple skins for Ashampoo firewall. Options are very basic, so there is not much that can be done to drastically change this firewalls appearance. Also, I am not going to make skins for this firewall because it already looks quite clean... maybe even more than it should look, lol. I really started to like simple GUIs like BitDefender has. Security applications really must be free of any additional memory hogs such as heavy graphic is... even GHOST firewall looks great and it doesn't use any graphics that's heavy on CPU and memory usage.
It's just I had 5 minutes on my hands, and I came up with these two. In case, orange is too much for you, here you can find dark gray version of it, and the blue one (like the top header part at Ashampoo's web site).
Dark gray version:
(http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/3618/blackey9.jpg)
Blue version:
(http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/1936/bluebg3.jpg)
You can download ZIP files here:
Black version download link:
http://www.rapidupload.com/d.php?file=dl&filepath=17777 (Click on DOWNLOAD FILE at the top of the page)
Blue version download link:
http://www11.rapidupload.com/d.php?file=dl&filepath=27213 (Click on DOWNLOAD FILE at the top of the page)
Unzip them, and place those two folders under SKIN subfolder (your default Ashampoo installation folder). Choose the one you like from Ashampoo's menu SETTINGS / SKIN and restart the application to see changes (completely shut down the firewall, and restart it).
Cheers !
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How is the self protection of this Firewall?
So far I've liked this firewall but ...
The process is terminated quite easily with the task manager and after I ran a Spybot S&D scan this morning I find that the Windows Firewall notification has been disabled (see attachment). This was not the case prior to installing AShampoo so my assumption is that AShampoo disabled the notification. Hopefully they will have better protection in a future version as this seems to be a rather large potential security gap.
Thanks for let me know... ;)
This firewall also have problems with rules...
About the Windows Firewall notification, I don't use the Security Center...
It's useless for me... :P
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They might well disable the windows firewall but they shouldn't disable the firewall notification that would indicate your firewall has been disabled.
Exactly.
I expect a third party firewall to disable the windows firewall but I still want notifications enabled. Or, if its necessary to turn off the notifications for some reason (like the Security Center won't recognize the program) at least let the user know up front.
btw, I have confirmed that the notifications were disabled. Turning off the firewall produces no alert from Windows at all.
Still, I like this program and just mention the above to let others know there is something to watch - not trying to discourage anyone from trying it.
And Sasha, you're right about faster boot times. Its surprising how much faster my computer boots with this.
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even though i don't use this firewall-happy with the one i have-i saw this review :o
http://www.softpedia.com/reviews/windows/Ashampoo-Firewall-Review-33853.shtml
have a good one avast! world 8)
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Or, if its necessary to turn off the notifications for some reason
As your scanner explained, leaving the notifications on will give you double notifications.
If that's ok with you, just turn the notifications back on in the windows FW. ;D
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Just hoping for something I can't have right now, I guess. :)
btw, do you know if there's a way to view the system rules? I know they can't be edited but I would like to take a look at them (no response to my AShampoo email yet).
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i knew i put the wrong firewall on ;D
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must have been one of those rogue firewall apps ;D
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Has anyone had any problems installing this on computers with multiple user accounts? I'm running into some difficulties with this.
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You don't state what the problems are ?
If you install it with the Administrator account, it should be available to all users. Some programs, avast included can have problems on multi user systems when not installed using the Administrator account or there are multiple users with admin rights.
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Here's the text of my email to AShampoo support:
Jens,
I've tried the AShampoo Firewall on 1 single-account computer and 2
multiple-account computers. Although it works quite well on the single
account machine the slow boot problem exists on both multi-account boxes.
Specifically, the time between the first appearance of the desktop
background and the first appearance of any icons is greater than 5
minutes.
I've noticed the following about this:
During installation on both of the problem computers it appeared that 2
instances of the set up program ran even though I only executed it once.
That is, the configuration windows appeared twice and there were two
icons in the system tray.
Sometimes logging into a non-administrator account first avoids this
delay, but not always.
Removing the firewall from the start ups followed by a reboot does not
alleviate the problem - it must be uninstalled to avoid the delay.
On the second of the problem computers some programs (Bazooka
AntiSpyware, an HP Program Update utility, and Spybot S&D) were able to
obtain internet connections without the firewall intervening. There were
no rules established for these programs - they simply connected to their
update servers. I did not test this on the first of the problem
computers.
I recommended AShampoo to another user who experienced a similar boot
problem but I have no specific details on that.
At this point I've gone back to Zone Alarm on the 2 multi-account
computers and there are no longer any delays. I hope this helps track
down the problem.
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Maybe I'll need to try it too. I had a lot of work in other city, and I'm just back. I see a lot of interesting new things here ;D
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I was very excited about this firewall but it all came crashing down. IE kept freezing for no reason after installing this firewall. After I was able to get it to Shields Up, it failed the tests. I was truly disappointed. I guess it was to good to be true.
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After I was able to get it to Shields Up, it failed the tests. I was truly disappointed. I guess it was to good to be true.
That's not what some of the others reported... ???
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I was very excited about this firewall but it all came crashing down. IE kept freezing for no reason after installing this firewall. After I was able to get it to Shields Up, it failed the tests. I was truly disappointed. I guess it was to good to be true.
Take it easy... it's on development...
Meanwhile, test Comodo Firewall (the beta version or some days from now, the last stable) 8)
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Actually the latest 2.3 version comes out on the 1st September, 2006 around 17:00GMT ;)
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I was very excited about this firewall but it all came crashing down. IE kept freezing for no reason after installing this firewall. After I was able to get it to Shields Up, it failed the tests. I was truly disappointed. I guess it was to good to be true.
It seems as if the installation goes bad sometimes. I have two good installs and two that didn't work at all. On the bad ones programs are able to connect out without any firewall rules so I'm guessing there is no real protection under these circumstances. If correct this could explain the failed leak tests for some users.
I've been in touch with AShampoo support again and asked that they either provide some information or, better, post some comments in this thread.
btw, I did find out that AShampoo recommends leaving the Windows Firewall active while using the AShampoo Firewall.
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btw, I did find out that AShampoo recommends leaving the Windows Firewall active while using the AShampoo Firewall.
I was shocked to read about leaving windows firewall on with ashampoo firewall! I feels that can't be a good program...right? Rose
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I remain optimistic about this program, but time and experience will be the best judge.
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Actually the latest 2.3 version comes out on the 1st September, 2006 around 17:00GMT ;)
I just tried this one and unfortunately it left me without internet access. :'( :'(
The only way I got it back was to uninstall it.
Oh well, it sounded good. Just my own experience. (or maybe inexperience)
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I tried V1.01 on one of my "problem" computers and still have the same long boot times. It appears there is now a V1.02 but I haven't tried that.
Still no word from AShampoo support ???
edit: No luck with V1.02 either. Of 5 computers I've tried it on ASHampoo runs great on 3/not well at all on 2.