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Title: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: varick.addison on January 31, 2020, 01:51:04 PM
So,

After knowing the data spying scandal, what do you use as Avast replacement?
Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: XdxD on January 31, 2020, 03:55:36 PM
I went for Windows Defender with HardConfigurator. But this (https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=231823.msg1534183#msg1534183 (https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=231823.msg1534183#msg1534183)) seems true as well.
Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: bob3160 on January 31, 2020, 04:01:37 PM
So,

After knowing the data spying scandal, what do you use as Avast replacement?
Why do you need a replacement? Avast is still one of the best AV programs available.
Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: Pondus on January 31, 2020, 05:49:40 PM
Quote
What do you use as Avast replacement?
My ISP give me free F-Secure safe


Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: kenny556 on January 31, 2020, 06:29:38 PM
Kaspersky security cloud free is one of the best free antiviruses. No proof has been shown that they are working with the Russian goverment. Also Eugene has invited the public and researchers to review it's databases to prove they are not.... i trust kaspersky before i trust avast!!! Also kaspersky has no aggressive scare-ware tactics after performing a full system scans that prompts you to download extra garbage you don't need.   bob3160 is sponsored by avast! so i take what he has to say about avast! being the best with a gain of salt... Considering he has a profile picture of him with an Avast! T shirt on. L0L... Kaspersky is also moving it's headquarters out of russia.

 Being sponsored means that a company believes in you and what you're doing and wants to help. ... You have a fairly good-sized following, so they approach you and offer to sponsor you in exchange for promotion a video, a link in an article or even a social media status. - bob is sponsored by avast which means he will never say anything bad about the product no matter what they do as a company to continue his sponsorship
Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: schmidthouse on January 31, 2020, 06:53:23 PM
Kaspersky security cloud free is one of the best free antiviruses. No proof has been shown that they are working with the Russian goverment. Also Eugene has invited the public and researchers to review it's databases to prove they are not i trust kaspersky before i trust avast!!!

I on the other hand DO NOT. :-X
Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: Michael (alan1998) on January 31, 2020, 07:01:36 PM
Kaspersky security cloud free is one of the best free antiviruses. No proof has been shown that they are working with the Russian goverment. Also Eugene has invited the public and researchers to review it's databases to prove they are not.... i trust kaspersky before i trust avast!!! Also kaspersky has no aggressive scare-ware tactics after performing a full system scans that prompts you to download extra garbage you don't need.   bob3160 is sponsored by avast! so i take what he has to say about avast! being the best with a gain of salt... Considering he has a profile picture of him with an Avast! T shirt on. L0L... Kaspersky is also moving it's headquarters out of russia.

 Being sponsored means that a company believes in you and what you're doing and wants to help. ... You have a fairly good-sized following, so they approach you and offer to sponsor you in exchange for promotion %u2013 a video, a link in an article or even a social media status. - bob is sponsored by avast which means he will never say anything bad about the product no matter what they do as a company to continue his sponsorship

Bob's profile picture is of him in a plaid shirt.
Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: kenny556 on January 31, 2020, 07:04:06 PM
Well that's great you're entitled to you're opinion as i am to mine...  But i'd hope you dont believe every Russian propaganda you see out on the internet. Sure russia has had some shady ties but i do not believe they are with kaspersky..... I could say the same thing for Norton when they white-listed a backdoor for the FBI. when the media questioned them they had "no comment"
Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: kenny556 on January 31, 2020, 07:05:23 PM
Kaspersky security cloud free is one of the best free antiviruses. No proof has been shown that they are working with the Russian goverment. Also Eugene has invited the public and researchers to review it's databases to prove they are not.... i trust kaspersky before i trust avast!!! Also kaspersky has no aggressive scare-ware tactics after performing a full system scans that prompts you to download extra garbage you don't need.   bob3160 is sponsored by avast! so i take what he has to say about avast! being the best with a gain of salt... Considering he has a profile picture of him with an Avast! T shirt on. L0L... Kaspersky is also moving it's headquarters out of russia.

 Being sponsored means that a company believes in you and what you're doing and wants to help. ... You have a fairly good-sized following, so they approach you and offer to sponsor you in exchange for promotion %u2013 a video, a link in an article or even a social media status. - bob is sponsored by avast which means he will never say anything bad about the product no matter what they do as a company to continue his sponsorship

Bob's profile picture is of him in a plaid shirt.

Look harder http://bob3160.mystrikingly.com/
Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: DavidR on January 31, 2020, 08:16:33 PM
Kaspersky security cloud free is one of the best free antiviruses. No proof has been shown that they are working with the Russian goverment. Also Eugene has invited the public and researchers to review it's databases to prove they are not.... i trust kaspersky before i trust avast!!! Also kaspersky has no aggressive scare-ware tactics after performing a full system scans that prompts you to download extra garbage you don't need.   bob3160 is sponsored by avast! so i take what he has to say about avast! being the best with a gain of salt... Considering he has a profile picture of him with an Avast! T shirt on. L0L... Kaspersky is also moving it's headquarters out of russia.

 Being sponsored means that a company believes in you and what you're doing and wants to help. ... You have a fairly good-sized following, so they approach you and offer to sponsor you in exchange for promotion %u2013 a video, a link in an article or even a social media status. - bob is sponsored by avast which means he will never say anything bad about the product no matter what they do as a company to continue his sponsorship

Bob's profile picture is of him in a plaid shirt.

Look harder http://bob3160.mystrikingly.com/

Not the same shirt as in his profile image, no Avast logo.

And expanding the image, does that look like a plaid (big checked) shirt ? :)
Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: bob3160 on January 31, 2020, 11:08:39 PM
Kaspersky security cloud free is one of the best free antiviruses. No proof has been shown that they are working with the Russian goverment. Also Eugene has invited the public and researchers to review it's databases to prove they are not.... i trust kaspersky before i trust avast!!! Also kaspersky has no aggressive scare-ware tactics after performing a full system scans that prompts you to download extra garbage you don't need.   bob3160 is sponsored by avast! so i take what he has to say about avast! being the best with a gain of salt... Considering he has a profile picture of him with an Avast! T shirt on. L0L... Kaspersky is also moving it's headquarters out of russia.

 Being sponsored means that a company believes in you and what you're doing and wants to help. ... You have a fairly good-sized following, so they approach you and offer to sponsor you in exchange for promotion a video, a link in an article or even a social media status. - bob is sponsored by avast which means he will never say anything bad about the product no matter what they do as a company to continue his sponsorship
Total bullshit.  :(
Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: Claudiu7 on January 31, 2020, 11:54:22 PM
Quote from: bob3160

Total bullshit.  :(
[/quote]

May be , but show us a post or replay where you criticize or disagree at least, with Avast!
Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: bob3160 on February 01, 2020, 12:03:23 AM
Total bullshit.  :(

Maybe , but show us a post or replay where you criticize or disagree at least, with Avast!
Wow, so now I'm guilty till I prove myself innocent? 
I'd repeat my last comment but that's not necessary.
https://bob3160.blogspot.com/2020/01/avast-and-your-privacy.html (https://bob3160.blogspot.com/2020/01/avast-and-your-privacy.html)


Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: abruptum on February 01, 2020, 12:25:52 AM
IMO some people are too critical of Bob.
He just thinks battle for privacy on internet is lost.
Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: bob3160 on February 01, 2020, 12:31:09 AM
IMO some people are too critical of Bob.
He just thinks battle for privacy on internet is lost.
Maybe those that think they still have some privacy left should do a simple search
on their name and/or user name. The results might surprise you. :)
Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: Claudiu7 on February 01, 2020, 12:59:06 AM
Hello Bob,

You are a member on this forum from 2004 and have 42,400 posts so far.

That is on average 8 posts per day , each and every day , work day, weekend, day or night.

If you cannot find ONE POST in 42,000 in which you disagree with Avast! in all this 16 years, maybe there is some truth in the sponsorship idea....
Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: d1681 on February 01, 2020, 01:07:05 AM
Hello Bob,

You are a member on this forum from 2004 and have 42,400 posts so far.

That is on average 8 posts per day , each and every day , work day, weekend, day or night.

If you cannot find ONE POST in 42,000 in which you disagree with Avast! in all this 16 years, maybe there is some truth in the sponsorship idea....

It's funny, Bob's outright worship of avast! is something I remember seeing years and years ago. I don't recall the specific thread but there was an issue with one of the browser plugins when it first launched which was objectively a plugin issue and Bob was basically flinging himself on the grenades over and over trying to put the blame on the end user. He and his fellow cultists are one of the main reasons I never saw any value in these forums and up until last year I had been a free or paid customer since the Alwil days.
Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: Mike ALA on February 01, 2020, 01:46:15 AM
I'm gonna go with ESET.
Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: bob3160 on February 01, 2020, 02:56:36 PM
Hello Bob,

You are a member on this forum from 2004 and have 42,400 posts so far.

That is on average 8 posts per day , each and every day , work day, weekend, day or night.

If you cannot find ONE POST in 42,000 in which you disagree with Avast! in all this 16 years, maybe there is some truth in the sponsorship idea....
In this country, you are innocent till proven guilty. It's time people remember that fact.



Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: jraju on February 01, 2020, 03:28:18 PM
Hi, mike , does eset provide a free av
does it scan the router/network
please
Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: Kermit80 on February 01, 2020, 04:53:31 PM
does eset provide a free av

no

Quote
does it scan the router/network

yes --> https://help.eset.com/eis/13/en-US/?idh_page_homenetwork_protection.html (https://help.eset.com/eis/13/en-US/?idh_page_homenetwork_protection.html)

Just for your information :)

Edit: need to specify that the vulnerability scanning is just towards the router and not the entire network
Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: kenny556 on February 02, 2020, 07:03:57 AM
Bitdefender free is also a great program scores as high as kaspersky.
Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: digmor crusher on February 02, 2020, 07:08:36 AM
Hello Bob,

You are a member on this forum from 2004 and have 42,400 posts so far.

That is on average 8 posts per day , each and every day , work day, weekend, day or night.

If you cannot find ONE POST in 42,000 in which you disagree with Avast! in all this 16 years, maybe there is some truth in the sponsorship idea....
In this country, you are innocent till proven guilty. It's time people remember that fact.

Ha Ha, not anymore. Trump changed all of that.
Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: XdxD on February 02, 2020, 07:49:19 AM
Ha Ha, not anymore. Trump changed all of that.
Hello there fellow MT member!
Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: bob3160 on February 02, 2020, 12:03:49 PM
Hello Bob,

You are a member on this forum from 2004 and have 42,400 posts so far.

That is on average 8 posts per day , each and every day , work day, weekend, day or night.

If you cannot find ONE POST in 42,000 in which you disagree with Avast! in all this 16 years, maybe there is some truth in the sponsorship idea....
In this country, you are innocent till proven guilty. It's time people remember that fact.

Ha Ha, not anymore. Trump changed all of that.
I think you've got your facts backwards.
Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: loungehake on February 02, 2020, 01:11:35 PM
I have tried quite a few alternatives to Avast, e.g. AVG, Avira, Panda Dome, Bit-Defender, but have always returned to Avast. It isn't perfect and some things are as irritating as hell but I like the way it works and it hardly ever causes problems.  I love the Wi-Fi Inspector but mostly it is the antimalware effectiveness which keeps me in the fold.  It is also very economical with memory.
Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: Claudiu7 on February 02, 2020, 03:33:04 PM
...but mostly it is the antimalware effectiveness which keeps me in the fold.  It is also very economical with memory.

Windows Defender scored identical with Avast! in latest AV-TEST.
In AVComparatives , Avast has 0.7% compromised while Defender 0% compromised.

In other words, from 1000 malwares , 7 will affect your PC , if protected by Avast!

So, what "effectiveness" are you talking about????
Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: Kermit80 on February 02, 2020, 06:21:29 PM
Windows Defender scored identical with Avast! in latest AV-TEST.
In AVComparatives , Avast has 0.7% compromised while Defender 0% compromised.

In other words, from 1000 malwares , 7 will affect your PC , if protected by Avast!

I work in the industry (although I have a marginal role). I know that antimalware tests must be evaluated with a grain of salt. It is not science we are talking about.
Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: RejZoR on February 02, 2020, 07:15:50 PM
There's also thing called false positives which are rather ridiculous given it's Microsoft. And I have terrible experience with performance which was always horrible with WD on systems ranging from low end to top end. Microsoft improved protection, but I have doubts about their actual real world protection despite these tests. Especially given how I've never in my life seen (anywhere) its active cloud detection or active behavior detection. You can see plenty of these from basically all antiviruses. Except WD. And WD's anti-ransomware mechanism is a freaking joke. It's been a part of a program for 2 years if not more and it's still literally entirely useless. Its whitelist is basically non existent. Which is again funny given this is Microsoft and they should have the best whitelists.
Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: Claudiu7 on February 02, 2020, 09:49:17 PM
There's also thing called false positives which are rather ridiculous given it's Microsoft.

Yes, there are FPs in Defender but I would rather want to deal with 20FPs than a ransomware missed.

On the end of the day Defender is doing a great job, and this for several years now. Moreover, the risk of incompatibility is zero, being delivered by Microsoft.
I used ESET for a many years: anti-ransomware shield,  machine learning, HIPS, etc; never ever had a detection initiated by any of these shields, always signature based.Same with BD.

Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: bob3160 on February 02, 2020, 10:43:03 PM
There's also thing called false positives which are rather ridiculous given it's Microsoft.

Yes, there are FPs in Defender but I would rather want to deal with 20FPs than a ransomware missed.

On the end of the day Defender is doing a great job, and this for several years now. Moreover, the risk of incompatibility is zero, being delivered by Microsoft.
I used ESET for a many years: anti-ransomware shield,  machine learning, HIPS, etc; never ever had a detection initiated by any of these shields, always signature based.Same with BD.
Maybe you need to take a look at the following 2 videos,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXtTgP8JkSk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXtTgP8JkSk)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km4aKjA2T_c
Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: RedFan on February 02, 2020, 11:51:57 PM
Where in this test is avast ? done by Se Labs

(https://malwaretips.com/attachments/1580572198204-png.233138/)

There will always be a different result .....
Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: Patrick2 on February 03, 2020, 12:23:09 AM
Chosen Windows Defender here,  One No Peformance issues experienced in my own usage that i can tell,   2  it's built into Windows,  backed up by Malwarebytes Free, and Emisoft emergency kit monthly scans on each system, and nothing found at all


So far no false positive issues either

Fine tuned with Configuredefenderx64 little app on each system

Overall happy do think


For many many years used Avast free,  but after this data sharing scandal, and lost trust  i figured it was time to configure entire network to 1 Antivirus, Defender is my choice so far working well.   

Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: jraju on February 03, 2020, 03:35:34 AM
Hi, patrick, i am win 7
and read that windows defender only protects spyware for windows 7. is that true
what about full threats for all the versions of windows , from win 7 to win 10
Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: Patrick2 on February 03, 2020, 04:17:09 AM
Yes on Windows 7 it only protects spyware,  they made Microsoft Security Essentials previously for Windows XP, Vista and 7,   

 They used the Windows Defender name for Windows 8, 8.1 and 10, only different is it now provides full protection in 8, 8.1 and 10 with Defender for malware/viruses, ransomware,  It's not the same as Windows 7 Version,   scores good on Comparatives tests
Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: RedFan on February 03, 2020, 08:10:26 AM
Hi, patrick, i am win 7
and read that windows defender only protects spyware for windows 7. is that true
what about full threats for all the versions of windows , from win 7 to win 10
Hi, for Win 7 i would say try with Bitdefender antivirus free edition.

Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: chris.. on February 03, 2020, 12:41:49 PM
Where in this test is avast ? done by Se Labs

(https://malwaretips.com/attachments/1580572198204-png.233138/)

There will always be a different result .....
Yes, but there are ways to see how serious the results are.
In yours, for example, how do you explain the difference between avast and AVG?
Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: jraju on February 05, 2020, 03:52:37 AM
Hi, I have given a useful link and some may find it useful
https://newsletter.askleo.com/794-what-security-software-do-you-recommend/
Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: bob3160 on February 05, 2020, 05:59:25 AM
Hi, I have given a useful link and some may find it useful
https://newsletter.askleo.com/794-what-security-software-do-you-recommend/ (https://newsletter.askleo.com/794-what-security-software-do-you-recommend/)
I certainly find this odd,
(https://screencast-o-matic.com/screenshots/u/Lh/1580878441637-57615.png)
He states he's using AVG which is owned by Avast but has apparently removed his endorsement of Avast.

Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: Patrick2 on February 05, 2020, 05:24:11 PM
Those are the 2 Other Alternative Antiviruses he recommends for folks,  Otherwise it's Defender recommendation what i understand from that article

Title: Re: What do you use as Avast replacement?
Post by: bob3160 on February 05, 2020, 07:32:22 PM
Those are the 2 Other Alternative Antiviruses he recommends for folks,  Otherwise it's Defender recommendation what i understand from that article
Makes no sense if he is ok with AVG why isn't he ok with Avast?