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Title: And The Best Antivirus Is… (According to www.virus.gr)
Post by: cyfer on September 05, 2006, 05:51:57 PM
Quite interesting. Why is AOL virus shield right next to Kaspersky? This is surprising.


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The test was made on 15-25 August 2006, using Windows XP Professional SP1 on a P4 2800 Mhz, 512MB DDRAM.

All programs tested had the latest versions, upgrades and updates and they were tested using their full scanning capabilities e.g. heuristics, full scan etc. The default settings of each program were not used, in order for each program to achieve its maximum detection rate. Because of this, there is a possibility for the tested programs to detect a few false positives.


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1. Kaspersky version 6.0.0.303 - 99.62%

2. Active Virus Shield by AOL version 6.0.0.299 - 99.62%

3. F-Secure 2006 version 6.12.90 - 96.86%

4. BitDefender Professional version 9 - 96.63%

5. CyberScrub version 1.0 - 95.98%

6. eScan version 8.0.671.1 - 95.82%

7. BitDefender freeware version 8.0.202 - 95.57%

8. BullGuard version 6.1 - 95.57%

9. AntiVir Premium version 7.01.01.02 - 95.45%

10. Nod32 version 2.51.30 - 95.14%

11. AntiVir Classic version 7.01.01.02 - 94.26%

12. ViruScape 2006 version 1.02.0935.0137 - 93.87%

13. McAfee version 10.0.27 - 93.03%

14. McAfee Enterprise version 8.0.0 - 91.76%

15. F-Prot version 6.0.4.3 beta - 87.88%

16. Avast Professional version 4.7.871 - 87.46%

17. Avast freeware version 4.7.871 - 87.46%

18. Dr. Web version 4.33.2 - 86.03%

19. Norman version 5.90.23 - 85.65%

20. F-Prot version 3.16f - 85.14%

21. ArcaVir 2006 - 83.44%

22. Norton Professional 2006 - 83.18%

23. AVG Professional version 7.1.405 - 82.82%

24. AVG freeware version 7.1.405 - 82.82%

25. Panda 2007 version 2.00.01 - 82.23%

26. Virus Chaser version 5.0a - 81.47%

27. PC-Cillin 2006 version 14.10.1051 - 80.90%

28. VBA32 version 3.11.0 - 79.12%

29. ViRobot Expert version 4.0 - 76.22%

30. UNA version 1.83 - 75.44%

31. Rising AV version 18.41.30 - 73.60%

32. Sophos Sweep version 6.0.2 - 69.48%

33. Ikarus version 5.19 - 63.22%

34. Antiy Ghostbusters version 5.1.3 - 61.55%

35. Digital Patrol version 5.00.12 - 54.29%

36. Vexira 2006 version 5.002.45 - 52.66%

37. V3Pro 2004 version 6.1.1.2.640 - 52.38%

38. Ewido Premium version 4.0.0.172 - 51.27%

39. Ewido freeware version 4.0.0.172 - 51.27%

40. ClamWin version 0.88.4 - 51.23%

41. E-Trust version 7.2.0.0 - 50.36%

42. ZoneAlarm with VET Antivirus version 6.5.722.000 - 44.65%

43. A Squared Anti-Malware version 2.0 - 43.28%

44. A Squared Free version 2.0 - 43.28%

45. Zondex Guard version 5.4.2 - 41.73%

46. Comodo version 1.0.0.4 - 41.02%

47. Solo 4.0 version 3.1.0 - 40.83%

48. Protector Plus version 7.2.H03 - 37.04%

49. Quick Heal version 8.00 - 33.66%

50. PC Door Guard version 4.2.0.35- 24.13%

51. AntiTrojan Shield version 2.1.0.14 - 24.11%

52. VirIT version 6.1.9 - 21.39%

53. Trojan Hunter version 4.2.924 - 13.44%

54. Trojan Remover version 6.5.1 - 8.00%

55. Tauscan version 1.70.1414 - 7.70%

56. The Cleaner version 4.2.4319 - 6.03%

57. Hacker Eliminator version 1.2 - 1.70%

58. Abacre version 1.4 - 0.00%


For more infomation about this test visit: http://www.virus.gr/english/fullxml/default.asp?id=82
Title: Re: And The Best Antivirus Is… (According to www.virus.gr)
Post by: bob3160 on September 05, 2006, 05:56:23 PM
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The test was made on 15-25 August 2006, using Windows XP Professional SP1
Now why would they use an outdated operating system ???  Why SP1 and not SP2 ???
Title: Re: And The Best Antivirus Is… (According to www.virus.gr)
Post by: cyfer on September 05, 2006, 06:02:44 PM
I just noticed that Active Virus Shield by AOL is powered by Kaspersky.
Title: Re: And The Best Antivirus Is… (According to www.virus.gr)
Post by: XMAS on September 05, 2006, 06:09:49 PM
What's the sense to test both versions of avast! (Home and Pro), everyone knows that both versions has the same scanning capabilities (same detection rates)  ???
Title: Re: And The Best Antivirus Is… (According to www.virus.gr)
Post by: cyfer on September 05, 2006, 06:13:19 PM
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What's the sense to test both versions of avast! (Home and Pro), everyone knows that both versions has the same scanning capabilities (same detection rates)  Huh

I guess they don't know how avast! company works.
Title: Re: And The Best Antivirus Is… (According to www.virus.gr)
Post by: igor on September 05, 2006, 07:50:04 PM
This "test" is flawed all along, so those few duplicit entries are really insignificant.
Title: Re: And The Best Antivirus Is… (According to www.virus.gr)
Post by: drhayden1 on September 05, 2006, 08:00:19 PM
hi all...would it make any difference on the results using SP2 :o
why SP1 in the first place ::)
Title: Re: And The Best Antivirus Is… (According to www.virus.gr)
Post by: cyfer on September 05, 2006, 10:01:02 PM
We/You could send them an email at general@virus.gr
Title: Re: And The Best Antivirus Is… (According to www.virus.gr)
Post by: cyfer on September 09, 2006, 06:06:48 AM
I know I don't like to see avast! not in the 10 top either. But why is it not, is this test rigged?  :o
Title: Re: And The Best Antivirus Is… (According to www.virus.gr)
Post by: TazUk on September 09, 2006, 12:40:31 PM
Detecting viruses is only part of what an antivirus program does, the other part is dealing with them when they are discovered and this is where I think Avast scores over other programs.
Title: Re: And The Best Antivirus Is… (According to www.virus.gr)
Post by: .: Mac :. on September 09, 2006, 02:20:34 PM
Igor can you tell how this test is flawed?
Title: Re: And The Best Antivirus Is… (According to www.virus.gr)
Post by: igor on September 09, 2006, 02:55:29 PM
Completely :P
If nothing else, the selection of samples is wrong. It isn't an easy thing to do; you can't take a few antivirus programs and call anything detected by at least one of them a virus. This way:
1. The programs used for such selections get an immediate advantage
2. You are ignoring the viruses that the other A/V programs detect and the selected groups doesn't
3. Any false positive (or corrupted sample), detected by one of the selected A/Vs, is immediatelly counted as a loss for the other ones. So, the testbed may actually be a big folder of garbage here.

You can't get meaningful results from flawed samples...
Title: Re: And The Best Antivirus Is… (According to www.virus.gr)
Post by: .: Mac :. on September 09, 2006, 02:59:22 PM
Oh I see. Thanks Igor
Title: Re: And The Best Antivirus Is… (According to www.virus.gr)
Post by: cyfer on September 09, 2006, 04:42:03 PM
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Completely  :P
If nothing else, the selection of samples is wrong. It isn't an easy thing to do; you can't take a few antivirus programs and call anything detected by at least one of them a virus. This way:
1. The programs used for such selections get an immediate advantage
2. You are ignoring the viruses that the other A/V programs detect and the selected groups doesn't
3. Any false positive (or corrupted sample), detected by one of the selected A/Vs, is immediatelly counted as a loss for the other ones. So, the testbed may actually be a big folder of garbage here.

You can't get meaningful results from flawed samples...

That is interesting.  :)
Title: Re: And The Best Antivirus Is… (According to www.virus.gr)
Post by: Lisandro on September 09, 2006, 09:07:00 PM
Completely :P
If nothing else, the selection of samples is wrong. It isn't an easy thing to do; you can't take a few antivirus programs and call anything detected by at least one of them a virus. This way:
1. The programs used for such selections get an immediate advantage
2. You are ignoring the viruses that the other A/V programs detect and the selected groups doesn't
3. Any false positive (or corrupted sample), detected by one of the selected A/Vs, is immediatelly counted as a loss for the other ones. So, the testbed may actually be a big folder of garbage here.

You can't get meaningful results from flawed samples...

Igor, this is ridiculous, I mean... people are laughing at the user, they must be joking with us that can't 'see' the wrong methodology as we're not virus analyst experts.
As we have a rogue page for antispywares, we must have a rogue page for antivirus tests.  ::)
Title: Re: And The Best Antivirus Is… (According to www.virus.gr)
Post by: bob3160 on September 09, 2006, 09:14:09 PM
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we must have a rogue page for antivirus tests.
Unfortunately it would be very hard to find any one to administer such a list.
I'm sure the companies that came out on top in this test would never agree
to call this a bogus test.    ;D                                         
Title: Re: And The Best Antivirus Is… (According to www.virus.gr)
Post by: rdmaloyjr on September 09, 2006, 09:53:47 PM
I noticed BitDefender came in 4th & 7th.  BitDefender online scanner isn't listed, but it should have the same detections.  I occasionally run BitDefender online scanner & it never finds anything as avast! does such a great job protecting my computer, so how can BitDefender be better than avast!?  It would have to find something that avast! missed to be better.  Ewido, Windows Defender, Spyware Terminator (with ClamWin) &  other security programs I use show no weaknesses in avast!.  To say another anti-virus is better you need to show me where avast! has failed in protecting my computer.
Title: Re: And The Best Antivirus Is… (According to www.virus.gr)
Post by: Lisandro on September 09, 2006, 10:01:34 PM
Unfortunately it would be very hard to find any one to administer such a list.
Why don't Alwil open the free Off Topic forum again? We can 'administrate' this list..., can't we?  ;D
Title: Re: And The Best Antivirus Is… (According to www.virus.gr)
Post by: SNOWHITE on September 09, 2006, 10:08:57 PM
Unfortunately it would be very hard to find any one to administer such a list.
Why don't Alwil open the free Off Topic forum again? We can 'administrate' this list..., can't we?  ;D
Why don't Alwil open the free Off Topic forum again?....Yes why not??? I am with you Tech  ;)
Title: Re: And The Best Antivirus Is… (According to www.virus.gr)
Post by: XMAS on September 09, 2006, 10:37:35 PM
Unfortunately it would be very hard to find any one to administer such a list.
Why don't Alwil open the free Off Topic forum again? We can 'administrate' this list..., can't we?  ;D
Sure we can  ;D 8) It's been long time since the Off Topic forum was closed  :'( It's about time to reopen it again ::)
Any word from Alwil ? ::) ;D
Title: Re: And The Best Antivirus Is… (According to www.virus.gr)
Post by: drhayden1 on September 09, 2006, 11:50:17 PM
Why don't Alwil open the free Off Topic forum again?....Yes why not??? I am with you Tech
++from snowhite's quote above++

Same here Tech and Snowhite...even though i wasn't on the forum then it sounds like a good item and all 8)
Title: Re: And The Best Antivirus Is… (According to www.virus.gr)
Post by: bob3160 on September 10, 2006, 02:17:51 AM
I hardly think this will help. It hasn't in the past.
Title: Re: And The Best Antivirus Is… (According to www.virus.gr)
Post by: SNOWHITE on September 10, 2006, 07:40:59 PM
I hardly think this will help. It hasn't in the past.
Not even if we make a poll voting, or kindly ask the admin and the mods ??? The General Topic Forum is starting to look like the Off Topic forum, so maybe its better the Off Topic forum  to be re-opened. Just my opinion ;)
Title: Re: And The Best Antivirus Is… (According to www.virus.gr)
Post by: rdmaloyjr on September 10, 2006, 07:52:02 PM

The General Topic Forum is starting to look like the Off Topic forum, so maybe its better the Off Topic forum  to be re-opened.

Don't say that...it could cause us troubles in the General Topics.

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Not even if we make a poll voting,

This forum isn't a democracy or we would've gotten Off Topic back already.

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or kindly ask the admin and the mods ???

This is the best idea!