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Title: Need an overview
Post by: I Mazza I on September 08, 2006, 11:31:32 AM
since the norton internet security is expiring in 12 days ( came with the lapop ) I have a checklist of the firewall and virus protection so far:

Avast or AVG
Comodo free firewall
Jetico
I also have spyware terminator, adware se, spyware blaster, spybot.

Since I have been hearing comodo is so good I was wondering if anyone has opinions before I download it. Thanks.
Title: Re: Need an overview
Post by: shgoh on September 08, 2006, 12:55:45 PM
firewall issues have been discussed numerous...try doing a search...in addition...i reckon you should remove any traces from symantec thoroughly using..

http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039?Open&docid=2005092709200113&nsf=sharedtech.nsf&view=docid
Title: Re: Need an overview
Post by: Lisandro on September 08, 2006, 01:51:54 PM
Avast or AVG
avast for sure  8)

Comodo free firewall or Jetico
Comodo in my opinion. More flexible. Updates frequently. Forum support.

I also have spyware terminator, adware se, spyware blaster, spybot.
Keep all of them  8)
Title: Re: Need an overview
Post by: DavidR on September 08, 2006, 03:38:15 PM
I also have spyware terminator, adware se, spyware blaster, spybot.
Keep all of them  8)

I would support that but add the proviso not to have the ClamAV integration with spyware terminator (as Tech reminded me earlier ;D) as that effectively would be two resident AV installed on the same system which can cause conflicts.
Quote
# Antivirus Integration - Spyware Terminator allows users to integrate an open-source antivirus program, ClamAV, in order to extend the ability to detect malicious programs both during the scan and within the Real-time Shield. Updates of the antivirus database are downloaded automatically with Spyware Terminator updates.
Title: Re: Need an overview
Post by: Lisandro on September 08, 2006, 03:43:38 PM
I would support that but add the proviso not to have the ClamAV integration with spyware terminator (as Tech reminded me earlier ;D) as that effectively would be two resident AV installed on the same system which can cause conflicts.
They won't conflict, avast and ClamWin, and you won't have troubles as the way ClamWin signatures are used to scan.
Of course, you'll have resources being used, but this is another history  ;)
Title: Re: Need an overview
Post by: DavidR on September 08, 2006, 04:16:18 PM
Because ClamWin is an on-demand scanner, however they are trying to do something different with this integration, read the quote again, "allows users to integrate an open-source antivirus program, ClamAV, in order to extend the ability to detect malicious programs both during the scan and within the Real-time Shield."
Title: Re: Need an overview
Post by: I Mazza I on September 09, 2006, 12:50:16 AM
thanks for all the comments.
Title: Re: Need an overview
Post by: Spiritsongs on September 09, 2006, 02:59:25 AM
 :)  Hi Mazza :

      Since you have SpywareBlaster, it would be best to
      uninstall Spybot because : 1) Its Updates MAY "reverse"
      some of SpywareBlaster's "protection" ; 2 ) Its quality
      has fallen off recently . Better to have the good & FREE
     "Ewido" from www.ewido.net/en .
       AND better to replace "Spyware terminator", with its
      Developers "checkered past" with SUPERantispyware
      ( FREE ver ) from www.superantispyware.com, who's
       Developer does NOT have a "checkered past"; there
       is a thread in our "General" forum on the "Terminator".
Title: Re: Need an overview
Post by: I Mazza I on September 09, 2006, 06:34:07 AM
thanks, but I have had no conflicts with spybot and spywareblaster.
Title: Re: Need an overview
Post by: roro on September 09, 2006, 08:17:24 AM
Spiritsongs,
You made this comment:

"Since you have SpywareBlaster, it would be best to
      uninstall Spybot because : 1) Its Updates MAY "reverse"
      some of SpywareBlaster's "protection" ; 2 ) Its quality
      has fallen off recently ."

I have had both applications for quite a while.  How would I know if Spybot was reversing Spywareblaster's protection?  Usually Spybot doesn't find anything anyway, but many seem to say it is a good app to have. ??? ???

I also use Ewido to scan once a week.


Ro Ro 8)
Title: Re: Need an overview
Post by: Jarmo P on September 09, 2006, 11:20:15 AM
I used to use Spybot, it is still installed but mot updated and used.
I got tired of having problems with the update.
Also it uses a lots of CPU when scanning, freezes my over heating CPU.

So I use lavasofts one and sometimes scan with a2 online scanner too. and kaspersky online scan etc.

I never liked teatimer taking so much resources and bad popups.
Title: Re: Need an overview
Post by: Bluesman on September 09, 2006, 01:17:04 PM
Since I have been hearing comodo is so good I was wondering if anyone has opinions before I download it. Thanks.
Comodo Firewall is a GREAT firewall, and it works very well with Avast! No problems here at all.
Title: Spybot & SpywareBlaster
Post by: Spiritsongs on September 09, 2006, 11:34:14 PM
 :)  Hi Ro Ro :

      The best way to know IF Spybot's Updates are
     "disabling" some of SpywareBlaster's "Items" is
      to go to SpywareBlaster's GUI AFTER a Spybot
      Update and see if it says something more than
     "0 items have protection disabled" in either of the
       top 2 lines !?
Title: Re: Spybot & SpywareBlaster
Post by: Lisandro on September 10, 2006, 12:52:43 AM
The best way to know IF Spybot's Updates are "disabling" some of SpywareBlaster's "Items"
Is there any way to prevent this to occur? :-\
Title: Re: Need an overview
Post by: I Mazza I on September 10, 2006, 05:38:49 AM
it doesn't do that on mine.
Title: Spybot Updates & SpywareBlaster
Post by: Spiritsongs on September 10, 2006, 07:12:21 AM
 :)  Hi Tech :

      The answer to your question may be on the Spybot
       Support Forums at : http://forums.spybot.info .
      I vaguely remember the topic being discussed, but do
      NOt remember if it was on Spybot's forum and/or the
      SpywareBlaster forum at Wilders or both !?
Title: Re: Need an overview
Post by: TedNelly on September 10, 2006, 09:37:07 AM
I to have noticed some small glitches between Spybot and Spywareblaster
no biggie really.  If on the very odd occasion  S&D causes a problem, I just re-enable the total protection in SpywareBlaster and re-immunize in S&D works ok for me.
I usually check for updates for them both at the same time.
Title: Re: Need an overview
Post by: DavidR on September 10, 2006, 01:54:31 PM
I have never seen it do that on my system either and I have used both for over three years.
Title: Re: Need an overview
Post by: Jarmo P on September 10, 2006, 03:41:44 PM
I have neither noticed anything. Sure I have seen sometimes that there are unprotected items, but not sure what caused them.
Only, SpyBot's update system, sometimes it hangs and I need to stop the program from Task Manager is really annoying. Plus it takes too much CPU when scanning and that teatimer that is not even running now, was also a resource hog.

Has been at least a month since I used SpyBot last time, might take a look to see if it is behaving. It used to save me by letting stupid Kazaa from startup in something like 3 years ago. Then it was usefull.

And then MS antispyware deleted all my songs I had downloaded, hehe. I had Kazaa uninstalled, but the songs were in that directory, so it quaranteened it or something, but I could not get them back. What can one say of usefullness of that MS antispyware beta, if it quaranteened a folder with no programs there left. Might have gotten better, but not running it either.
Title: Re: Spybot Updates & SpywareBlaster
Post by: Lisandro on September 10, 2006, 03:51:21 PM
I vaguely remember the topic being discussed, but do NOt remember if it was on Spybot's forum and/or the SpywareBlaster forum at Wilders or both !?
I couldn't find anything...

I have neither noticed anything. Sure I have seen sometimes that there are unprotected items, but not sure what caused them.
Look the screenshot.

Only, SpyBot's update system, sometimes it hangs and I need to stop the program from Task Manager is really annoying. Plus it takes too much CPU when scanning and that teatimer that is not even running now, was also a resource hog.
There is a setting to use low CPU, as you may know...
Title: Re: Need an overview
Post by: Lisandro on September 10, 2006, 03:55:34 PM
I found the item missed...
OverTure tracing cookie... But I'm not sure which application is 'disabling' the item  ??? ::)
Title: Re: Need an overview
Post by: Jarmo P on September 10, 2006, 03:57:01 PM
I know that Tech, SpywareBlaster is a nice program. :)
Not so very much needed since I don't run IE oftenl but sometimes I have to for online scans etc. But a valued one anyways.
Protects my Fox from eevil cookies at least a bit.
Title: Re: Need an overview
Post by: DavidR on September 10, 2006, 04:08:21 PM
All you need to do is click the Enable All Protection to rectify this should you find any disabled items.

If you are doing regular SpywareBlaster updates you should notice it and be able to correct it easily.
Title: Re: Need an overview
Post by: FernandoS on September 10, 2006, 04:52:30 PM
In my opinion, Comodo is better than Jetico.  Jetico is very difficult to configure and, in my case, blocked my ADSL connection without any question. I uninstalled it but still without connection (maybe some system file was damaged). So I had to format my pc. Now I have Comodo and it works very well.
Title: Re: Need an overview
Post by: Jarmo P on September 10, 2006, 05:13:01 PM
Well, fernando, there are horror stories like that when having installed "security" software. I have not tried Jetico, nor intend, cause I am happy with kerio 2.
It could be good but not easy.

On the other hand I tried Comodo, out of curiosity. Needed to know why all are speaking of it in wilderssecurity forum, here too.
It is only, I have a netphone program that needs to allow all UDP traffic to both incoming and outgoing connections to a certain IP range for all ports.
So Comodo was not working out of box. And there was no way I found to allow those ports only to that application.

I sure checked comodo forum and all I could before I decided to uninstall it. It did not also have a configuration file like kerio 2 that is a simple packet filter with no bloat.
Comodo used windows registry to store all the rules.

Kerio 2, even 4 when it is trusted maybe, allow to make rules for any app with no difficulties. Sygate does that too, but it has a problem with avast's local proxies in loosing outbound control, other than that it is a nice no worrysome firewall.
Title: Re: Need an overview
Post by: Lisandro on September 10, 2006, 05:44:02 PM
All you need to do is click the Enable All Protection to rectify this should you find any disabled items.
Then, after booting or closing SpywareBlaster, and the protection is disabled again.
Something is disabling it...  :P

If you are doing regular SpywareBlaster updates you should notice it and be able to correct it easily.
Not a permanent correction as you can see...
Title: Re: Need an overview
Post by: FernandoS on September 10, 2006, 06:00:21 PM
Kerio 2, even 4 when it is trusted maybe, allow to make rules for any app with no difficulties. Sygate does that too, but it has a problem with avast's local proxies in loosing outbound control, other than that it is a nice no worrysome firewall.

As I use to say, enjoying a firewall or not is a very personal question  :)  I've already heard about Kerio. It seems to be good firewall, but because comodo has been working so well (until now) and because the "trauma" caused by Jetico  ;D, I do not intend to change it  .
Title: Re: Need an overview
Post by: Jarmo P on September 10, 2006, 06:14:55 PM
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and because the "trauma" caused by Jetico  Grin, I do not intend to change it  .

I can understand that and what i saw Comodo seemed to be a decent firewall if you don't have many needs for programs to respond as "server".
My post was to calm down this hype and tell, other fw's, they don't have problems running software unlimited.
You could be happy with that one.

Edit
I would not recommend kerio 4 as a replacement. It is a firewall of problems that never have been fixed, or will be I guess :(
Title: Re: Need an overview
Post by: I Mazza I on September 11, 2006, 05:10:19 AM
cool, I have about 8 days before everything runs out, so I'll give Comodo a try.