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Title: Solution to Avast with Thunderbird & Spampal & Hotmail Popper
Post by: Dressler on January 21, 2004, 01:20:44 PM
Here is what you need to get Avast, ThunderBird, Spampal, & Hotmail Popper to work together.
I was up all night getting this to work, so someone should reap the benefits.
 :P

Avast: (avast4.ini)
ShowTrayIcon=1
UseDefaultSmtp=1
AutoSetProtection=0
DefaultPopServer=127.0.0.1:1110
DefaultSmtpServer=127.0.0.1:25001 (You could use your own ISP's SMTP)

Hotmail Popper: (config)
Address: 127.0.0.1
POP Port: 11110
SMTP Port: 25001

Spampal: (config)
POP3 (any servername) Port: 1110

Thunderbird: (or any email program you love)
(config)
Server Settings
Server Name: 127.0.0.1 Port 110
YourName@hotmail.com@127.0.0.1:11110

Outgoing Server (SMTP)
Server Name: 127.0.0.1 Port: 25
Use Name and Password (checked)
User Name: YourName@hotmail.com


This make sense???
 ???

This took me several hours to get... so expect this to take a while to wrap your brain around.
I'm sure you could tunnel this all through SSL and then your brain would explode.

-Rob Droesler Avast User



Title: Re:Solution to Avast with Thunderbird & Spampal & Hotmail Popper
Post by: Culpeper on January 21, 2004, 05:17:46 PM
I have a similar set up with Thunderbird and Spampal.  The trick is that incoming port number for each program and including the local IP in the user id as well, something like "yourname#pop3.yourisp.com@localhost"
Title: Re:Solution to Avast with Thunderbird & Spampal & Hotmail Popper
Post by: Dressler on January 21, 2004, 11:14:07 PM
That trick works if you don't have Hotmail Popper or YahooPops!, these
programs have problems interpretting the # for some reason.

Title: Re:Solution to Avast with Thunderbird & Spampal & Hotmail Popper
Post by: Culpeper on January 21, 2004, 11:24:21 PM
What is hotmail popper?
Title: Re:Solution to Avast with Thunderbird & Spampal & Hotmail Popper
Post by: Dressler on January 21, 2004, 11:40:17 PM
Hotmail Popper is a littler program that will sit in your system tray, and allows
you to check your hotmail through POP3, via address 127.0.0.1, with any port you want.

Its pretty annoying getting it to work with both avast, spampal, and thunderbird.

If you have a yahoo account you can use YahooPops!  8)

Those programs are freeware! If you want to use Thunderbird to check excite or netscape mail
you have to get web2pop or something like that, but those programs cost money.
 >:(

Its complicated... but at the very LEAST you can get this all to work together... which is more than I actually expected.
 :)

Cheers.


-Droessler

PS: I'm a whore to the smiley faces.
Title: Re:Solution to Avast with Thunderbird & Spampal & Hotmail Popper
Post by: Culpeper on January 22, 2004, 04:21:02 AM
Good work!  The people at the SpamPal forum would be glad to see your solution.
Title: Re:Solution to Avast with Thunderbird & Spampal & Hotmail Popper
Post by: debugger_pl on January 23, 2004, 09:42:32 PM
Welcome Everyone !!!

I've got one question:

I've set up Mozilla Thunderbird:
POP3: 127.0.0.1
SMTP: 127.0.0.1

and Username without # sign and everything works fine.

Question:  Do you really have to set up USERNAME like
username#pop3.server.com or just  only username without #pop3.server.com

Best Regards
Piotr

Title: Re:Solution to Avast with Thunderbird & Spampal & Hotmail Popper
Post by: Culpeper on January 24, 2004, 05:30:27 AM
Are you getting a note at the bottom of received email that it was checked by Avast?
Title: Re:Solution to Avast with Thunderbird & Spampal & Hotmail Popper
Post by: Datagg on January 25, 2004, 12:51:46 AM
Culpeper suggested i write in here also. Im not able to get the program i hate spam form sunbelt to work with avast. Its a self integrated spam program that becomes part of outlook express, so there is no other program to run Pre of getting emails. Yet Culpeper and I have been trying many things, and spam gaurd doent like any settings altered in any way. We did a few things in DATA Avast.ini, still dint work, some of the things we did set a new string in the outlook setup which made i hate spam do an error. Then the program says settigns are wrong then auto corrects....
Here is a pic of the working adjustments that i hate spam adjusts, this would be the same for all 4 of my emails accounts, except the user name would differ for each one.  

Well, thats all i have for now, hope we can figure this one out. Im going to go out and grab a bite to eat, hope I can enjoy, my mind is so on this situation. i bought 2 spam licenses, for 2 computers , so im hopeing there is a solution.  For more details there is more in my original thread. Again thanks Culpepper for all of your help. This is a nice place and im happy to be a part of....
Title: Re:Solution to Avast with Thunderbird & Spampal & Hotmail Popper
Post by: Culpeper on January 25, 2004, 04:19:21 AM
Datagg:

By emulating Dressler's settings above you might experiment with the avat4.ini and OE settings.  Like I mentioned before your spam program wants to be first and hog port 110 so you need to get the chain of events in order so that Avast can scan email after it goes through the spam program and before it goes to your inbox in OE.

One example would be:

Avast4.ini
DefaultPopServer=127.0.0.1:1110

Outlook Experss
incoming port 110
OE Account Name datagg3:pop.west.cox.net@127.0.0.1:11110

Experimenting along these lines should get you the desired results.

Above all you need both a spam program and an email scanner but not one without the other.  


Title: Re:Solution to Avast with Thunderbird & Spampal & Hotmail Popper
Post by: Culpeper on January 25, 2004, 04:31:38 AM
I've modified my post above again.
Title: Re:Solution to Avast with Thunderbird & Spampal & Hotmail Popper
Post by: Datagg on January 25, 2004, 04:33:02 AM
Culpeper i have allready tried those .ini settings, tried all of them in various methods.....The one constant thing that i see that happens is that any program that tries to alter port settings or anything tha thas to do with servers etc is rejected by the spam program. All new settigns are changing the results in the picture i showed you, resulting in errors....

Title: Re:Solution to Avast with Thunderbird & Spampal & Hotmail Popper
Post by: Culpeper on January 25, 2004, 04:36:22 AM
That's a drag.  Have you checked on setting up with AV programs through the iHatespam online help section.  I don't have the URL to do that myself.
Title: Re:Solution to Avast with Thunderbird & Spampal & Hotmail Popper
Post by: Datagg on January 25, 2004, 05:06:17 AM
Ive tried alot of other AV programs out there, I really like avast. Tried avg,panda,nav.....some let viruses thru, so i went on a hunt to search for AV programs....Now i finally found one i really like and this happens..

Thru my outpost firewall, and the protection that gives ill fairly confident for now im safe without an email; scanner, though I dont wish that for long, ill try hopefully with help from others we can figure this one out. Not just for me, but others who may be having this same problem. i hate Spam is getting great reviews and im sure is only going to get better, my spam is i would say 99% gone now, but as far as what im saying, for there to be a fix for this, either thru avast or Sunbelt. Alot of people shy away from great programs such as these for stuiped conflict problems, its a shame, and in the best interest for the manufactuers to fix. Ill still research this and try other options, culpeper thanjs a million for our help, ill try your new edited version when im done with this writing.

All of you thanks,

Any other ideas or suggestions for me and many others im sure would be appreciated...
Title: Re:Solution to Avast with Thunderbird & Spampal & Hotmail Popper
Post by: Culpeper on January 25, 2004, 05:13:11 AM
Very well, you do have a 30 day guarantee on the IHateSpam program and then switch to SpamPal which is a better program anyway and doesn't cost money and has a support forum similar to this one.  I use it with Avast.  It catches 99% of my spam.  Spampal places a **SPAM** text in the header of the email it flags as spam.  I'm so confidient in it now that I use the OE filter rules to just delete anything with **SPAM** in the header from the server and therefore doesn't end up in any mail folder in OE.  You can also set up a separate spam folder and use the OE mail rules to send messages flagged as spam to that folder, and so forth.

 I'm sorry you are having so much compatibility problems with your current spam program but we welcome you to the Avast program and these forums any time.
Title: Re:Solution to Avast with Thunderbird & Spampal & Hotmail Popper
Post by: Datagg on January 25, 2004, 05:21:32 AM
YEs ive used that one before, matter of fact its exe is on my drive...man I hate to get rid the other though, it works so well.....i am well within my return policy, so i will wait a couple of days and see if anyone can come up with any ideas.......
Title: Re:Solution to Avast with Thunderbird & Spampal & Hotmail Popper
Post by: Culpeper on January 25, 2004, 05:26:25 AM
keep us posted.
Title: Re:Solution to Avast with Thunderbird & Spampal & Hotmail Popper
Post by: Datagg on January 25, 2004, 05:57:38 AM
Ok bro, in the meantime i exported all info spam program learnein case i reinstall.  Ok, got rid of that program, instaled spam pal, set it up, had emails workign  and being filtered, let avast do its setup.......all went to hell, emails did not work, avast warnings. Took out the ini stuff we did, reset back to normal,redid changes made in OE, setup again, same thing.....man i just dont get it, i must be jinxed...here si the avast popup warnng it gave right after it said succesful instal.... there are a few pics, ill upload in each reply.....
Title: Re:Solution to Avast with Thunderbird & Spampal & Hotmail Popper
Post by: Datagg on January 25, 2004, 05:57:55 AM
next
Title: Re:Solution to Avast with Thunderbird & Spampal & Hotmail Popper
Post by: Datagg on January 25, 2004, 05:58:07 AM
what it did in OE....reset after this and did again....same thing.......

Im really losing my mind here
Title: Re:Solution to Avast with Thunderbird & Spampal & Hotmail Popper
Post by: Datagg on January 25, 2004, 07:34:11 AM
well i jumped the gun on those last posts, read up on it in the whitelist....did all what it said to the letter, shut down errors....did it again, shut down errors...ok this time I did all that list said as before with all the new ports 9025 and 9110 in there liek th previous times, but this time i ran the avast email wizard,  now it all works. When it was all put in manually it did not work, when avast did it it worked...now seems to be fine, it certainly appears to be canning now, avast turns with email checks,and the process of mail is slower, so im assuming its working now.......

Now i need to do a test of sorts, eicar virus or something in email to see if it finds it upon entry...

brb, now i just may get a return on that one program, to bad it wouldnt work right......

Any ideas on how to test the scans for email????
Title: Re:Solution to Avast with Thunderbird & Spampal & Hotmail Popper
Post by: Dressler on January 25, 2004, 11:47:25 AM
Its called... i hate spam made by sunbelt?
Is this shareware or freeware?
If so I can try and figure it out.
Is it any good?

I found spam pal to be great cuz you can use it as a medium for ALL
of your email accounts to be used with Avast.

Also do you use hotmail popper or yahoo pops! in addition to this ihatespam program?
(That complicates things something feirce)


By the way... my solutions works, but for some reason if you write mail to yourself from a hotmail account, the e-mail does't seem come through....
(that might be my ISP's SMTP's problem though, but I doubt it)


Back to learning about Kosovo.

 :P

-Droessler
Title: Re:Solution to Avast with Thunderbird & Spampal & Hotmail Popper
Post by: Datagg on January 25, 2004, 01:42:39 PM
Dressler thanks anyways bro, you can try to figure it out if ya want, but I have uninstaled it and put spampal in, all works great now. I wrote sunbelt for a refund, Ive been messing with this thing for about 2 weeks now, so ive just decided to get my $20.00 bucks back and put in spampal that i have used in the past. And yes i hate spam was a good program, but by reading the forums for sunbelt, and based on responses form hem to others there was no way to change the internal ports to it, it integrates itself into outlook and becomes part of it, 2 programs united as 1. And thru that made it impossible to adjust wit hany ease. They say on there forums it is not compatible with hotmail, and other programs, for the ports cant be changed, when i saw tht i decided to just do spampal. I love this virus program so much that ididnt want to part from it, so i hate spam had to go.  i did try alot of your settings you had for otehr programs, yet that program would not let other ports go, when i made a change to a port, the progra mwould say there was an error, and then auto corrected it back to its defaults...

so with that i uninstaled.....write them for refund etc, told them the problems etc....Now waiting for reply back to confirm refund. had it for roughly 15 days, it has a 30 day refund.

Well thanks for looking into this for me, im sure thee will be others down the pike with this same prob, so maybe its worth findng a way to hack into there defualts for solutions down the rode.

Oh and thru my dealings with them i found out that Sunbelt is there distributor or contractor, thay arent the creators( this came when i asked they on there forums, for i saw 2 different versions on 2 different sites. Sunbelt and ihatespam.org site) i asked are these different programs, the reply was no, they are our distributers, so yes they are 1 of the same.

and i do also have a yahoo account for email, yet i do all of it server side...

And the program cost is $19.99

Take care,
Title: Re:Solution to Avast with Thunderbird & Spampal & Hotmail Popper
Post by: Culpeper on January 25, 2004, 05:20:46 PM
Man, I'm glad your all set up now!
Title: Re:Solution to Avast with Thunderbird & Spampal & Hotmail Popper
Post by: Culpeper on January 25, 2004, 05:37:42 PM
Open up the Internet Mail Provider by double clicking the blue icon ball.  Select customize and under the advanced tab select "show detail information"  This will show a screen of each email message being scanned in real time.
Title: Thunderbird Configuration
Post by: debugger_pl on January 26, 2004, 05:02:36 PM
Welcome Everyone !!!

I've set up Mozilla Thunderbird:
POP3: 127.0.0.1
SMTP: 127.0.0.1

and Username without # sign and everything works fine.

I get a note at the bottom of the message that it was checked by Avast.

Question:  Do you really have to set up USERNAME like
username#pop3.server.com or just  only username without #pop3.server.com ?



Best Regards
Piotr
Title: Re:Solution to Avast with Thunderbird & Spampal & Hotmail Popper
Post by: Culpeper on January 27, 2004, 05:10:44 AM
debugger:

I'm unable to duplicate your settings to work with Avast usng Thunderbird v .03
Title: Re:Solution to Avast with Thunderbird & Spampal & Hotmail Popper
Post by: debugger_pl on January 27, 2004, 09:01:47 AM
Welcome Everyone !!!

I'm using Mozilla Thunderbird 0.4.
When I write pop3.server.com I mean that you have to enter  address of your POP3 server and so on.
For example: pop3.wp.pl, smtp.wp.pl etc.

In place for username I use only username without #address_of_your_server.

Best Regards.
Piotr
Title: Re:Solution to Avast with Thunderbird & Spampal & Hotmail Popper
Post by: thestub on January 31, 2004, 01:04:26 PM
Ok, I am being a bit lazy here - but before I spend the hours playing I thought I would ask the question:

I am using Mozilla 1.6 to check multiple e-mail acounts (including two through YahooPops and one the HotPop plus several different POP servers).  I can't seem to get Avast to work.  Now before I pile in and try and make this work, is it possible to have multiple mail accounts with Avast?

Thanks in anticipation  ;)

Stub
Title: Re:Solution to Avast with Thunderbird & Spampal & Hotmail Popper
Post by: Smudge on January 31, 2004, 02:06:10 PM
Yes.  

I've got 2 hotmail (through hotmail popper) 1 yahoo (through yahoopops) and 2 on inbox.net (through web2pop), and I'm trying out MrPostman as an alternative, as well as normal pop3 accounts.  These all also chain onto K9 for spam filtering.  I've got Avast working on all of them.

Read the help file.  I didn't find that to start with as there's a lack of a help button on the individual avast tools, but if you select help from the tray icon all the info you need is there.

I'm just going out for the afternoon now.  I'll try and give a simple step by step guide tonight.
Title: Re:Solution to Avast with Thunderbird & Spampal & Hotmail Popper
Post by: thestub on January 31, 2004, 02:55:56 PM
Thanks.

Now, before I spend the rest of the afternoon attempting to get this thing working, do you use the same SMTP server for all of them?

Thanks,

Stub
Title: Re:Solution to Avast with Thunderbird & Spampal & Hotmail Popper
Post by: Smudge on January 31, 2004, 07:15:16 PM
Thanks.

Now, before I spend the rest of the afternoon attempting to get this thing working, do you use the same SMTP server for all of them?

Thanks,

Stub

No, but then I'm using OE.  I've not tried Mozilla 1.6 but I did try Thunderbird.  Isn't that the way it works?  I'll download Mozilla and have a look, it's about time I tried it.
Title: Re:Solution to Avast with Thunderbird & Spampal & Hotmail Popper
Post by: thestub on January 31, 2004, 09:52:08 PM
I seemed to have cracked it (it sends e-mails anyway, and YahooPops doesn't complain).  

If you are using multiple SMTp servers do the same thing with the usernames, just change the port to the localhost SMTP port...bobs your mothers live in lover ;)

So I would set my username to thestub#localhost:25000

Does that makes sence?

BTW this thread should be pinned - the info is worth keeping near the top!