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Title: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: LaFemmeMichele on November 05, 2006, 04:46:44 AM
I've just come from the Comodo forum & thought Avast folks should know the newly released CFW 2.3.6.81 has issues with Avast.

See: Desktop Security Products/Comodo Firewall/Help/Re: Anyone know what this is?

The thread is 6 pages long so far--the last page is most informative.
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: mauserme on November 05, 2006, 06:05:01 AM
Very interesting thread.

Here's a link

http://forums.comodo.com/index.php/topic,3113.0.html

and a quote from page 6

"Yes to prevent COMODO PF from mucking up Avast! WebShield process you need COMODO PF to ‘Skip loopback(*) TCP connections’…

It looks like Lukor is already working with the Comodo developers.
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: alanrf on November 05, 2006, 06:57:09 AM
Good to have the warning and great to know that the avast team are on it already.

This would hardly represent the first time that a firewall and avast have had a lttle disagreement. 

The fireworks are usually over quite soon and rarely result in a "my antivirus or my firewalll" decision.
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: alanrf on November 05, 2006, 07:21:09 AM
Now that I have gone through the Comodo forum thread I recall that this is an issue that has been outstanding for some time with Comodo personal firewall and is NOT a new issue between avast and Comodo.

The new information that has come forward is that the "Skip loopback TCP connections" option in the Comodo firewall apparently overcomes the problems that have affected the users of the avast Webshield as reported in these forums.  I cannot speak to what, if any, exposure selecting that option means to a Comodo firewall user.

I suspect that we will need to leave it to the technical folks of Alwil and Comodo working together to provide a final resolution.       
 
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: LaFemmeMichele on November 05, 2006, 07:45:30 AM
I was just reading a thread on here... See: WebSheild bugs(?) 
It looks like Alexo's problem was prior to the release of new CFW. There was some mention on the Comodo thread of the firewall developers being out of the country!  :P
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: stevejrc on November 05, 2006, 05:01:51 PM
Mines running fine with ‘Skip loopback(*) TCP connections’ disabled (as default).
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: buttoni on November 06, 2006, 05:10:01 PM
Just read the Comodo Forum thread.  My Avast 4.7.892 Home and CPF are running just fine together.  Webshield is set to normal.  Both programs are configured with CPF Automatic Install/Avast default settings and have changed nothing regarding Skip Loopback TCP Connections.  Comodo Application Behavior Analysis enabled (default).  I have never seen the odd screen in question nor the gibberish pages they are discussing on the CFW thread.  Other security realtime is Sunbelt Counterspy and NOTHING else.  I use Firefox as of late, but didn't experience the said anomalies with IE6 either.  FYI, I'm on ATT DSL with 2Wire Modem/router.
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: lukor on November 08, 2006, 06:58:29 PM
Hello Guys,

I just had a conversation with a developer from Comodo team. They put some efforts into this issue with avast! WebShield and as it seems to me now that the future update of Comodo PF (which should be out soon, probably ver. 2.4) will contain a fix!  ;D

All of you who have spotted problems, please update as soon as the new version is available.
Thanks.

Lukas.
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: Bluesman on November 08, 2006, 07:12:06 PM
Hello Guys,

I just had a conversation with a developer from Comodo team. They put some efforts into this issue with avast! WebShield and as it seems to me now that the future update of Comodo PF (which should be out soon, probably ver. 2.4) will contain a fix!  ;D

All of you who have spotted problems, please update as soon as the new version is available.
Thanks.

Lukas.

An beta-version of Comodo Firewall Release 2.4.0.x BETA will be released 16 november. It was first planned for a release yesterday, but it is now delayed to 16 november

http://forums.comodo.com/index.php/topic,3527.msg26413.html#msg26413
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: LaFemmeMichele on November 16, 2006, 01:31:11 PM
Lucas,
   It's the 16th. Any word from Comodo?
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: Bluesman on November 17, 2006, 07:20:05 PM
Here is the beta:

http://forums.comodo.com/index.php/topic,3934.0.html
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: LaFemmeMichele on November 17, 2006, 07:41:56 PM
Bluesman,
   The 2.4.0.89 version of Comodo Firewall realease is in Traditional Chinese!
Bluesman, right about now I feel like sugar on the floor (-Etta James)!
-M   
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: Lisandro on November 17, 2006, 08:47:38 PM
I can't find a new version for 2.3.6.81  :'(
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: Bluesman on November 17, 2006, 08:59:48 PM
Bluesman,
   The 2.4.0.89 version of Comodo Firewall realease is in Traditional Chinese!
Bluesman, right about now I feel like sugar on the floor (-Etta James)!
-M   
Opps, sorry, I didn't read carefully before, I thought it was english and chinese, my bad. Sorry!
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: LaFemmeMichele on November 17, 2006, 09:09:32 PM
Tech the Comodo website now says 2.3.6(?). Yesterday it still showed as 2.3.4. I'm under the distinct impression there isn't a fix for Avast users.

 
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: Lisandro on November 17, 2006, 09:31:14 PM
Tech the Comodo website now says 2.3.6(?). Yesterday it still showed as 2.3.4. I'm under the distinct impression there isn't a fix for Avast users.
No it isn't... I mean, it's not only for avast users...  :'(
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: Cactusjack on November 17, 2006, 10:34:45 PM
Tech the Comodo website now says 2.3.6(?). Yesterday it still showed as 2.3.4. I'm under the distinct impression there isn't a fix for Avast users.
No it isn't... I mean, it's not only for avast users...  :'(
Yesterday evening 16 nov, i read on the Comodo Forum that there is coming
a Update from 2.3.4. to 2.3.6. And its for all. The update follow whitin a few weeks.
Thats what i read on the Comodo Forum.
The Avast suggestion that there is maybe a Bug ,is under searhing and if
Comodo something found,then coming the solution in version 2.3.6.
I personallity do count on it,that they tell the thrut.
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: calcu007 on November 17, 2006, 10:47:41 PM
Tech the Comodo website now says 2.3.6(?). Yesterday it still showed as 2.3.4. I'm under the distinct impression there isn't a fix for Avast users.

 

The version 2.3.6 had been out for few weeks, it was released in September 28 . They took to long to update their websiite. Check here

http://forums.comodo.com/index.php/topic,2822.0.html
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: Cactusjack on November 17, 2006, 11:26:24 PM
Tech the Comodo website now says 2.3.6(?). Yesterday it still showed as 2.3.4. I'm under the distinct impression there isn't a fix for Avast users.

 

The version 2.3.6 had been out for few weeks, it was released in September 28 . They took to long to update their websiite. Check here
What is this? Have i read for nothing? 18 Sept release!
But i have just de reactings read,on the Forum. And i am not very happy!
There are much people whit problems whit the new version.
I read that there is a difficult whit coming on internet. Becourse the Firewall
do not recconaise the brouwsers (IE And FF),But you know that Englisch is
difficult for me.So I read tomorro the reacthings.
http://forums.comodo.com/index.php/topic,2822.0.html
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: LaFemmeMichele on November 18, 2006, 03:54:28 AM
Cactus Jack,
   My friend you may be in luck! They are working on multilingual releases over there! -M
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: Lisandro on November 18, 2006, 11:37:33 AM
But i have just de reactings read,on the Forum. And i am not very happy!
There are much people whit problems whit the new version.
I read that there is a difficult whit coming on internet. Becourse the Firewall do not recconaise the brouwsers (IE And FF)
Strange... Comodo is working perfectly with avast, IE, Firefox and so on  ::) ???
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: Cactusjack on November 18, 2006, 04:09:12 PM
Cactus Jack,
   My friend you may be in luck! They are working on multilingual releases over there! -M
I AM LUCKY!!! I Have a GirlFriend.   When is the Wedding?
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: Cactusjack on November 18, 2006, 04:43:25 PM
But i have just de reactings read,on the Forum. And i am not very happy!
There are much people whit problems whit the new version.
I read that there is a difficult whit coming on internet. Becourse the Firewall do not recconaise the brouwsers (IE And FF)
Strange... Comodo is working perfectly with avast, IE, Firefox and so on  ::) ???
Well i am glad to hear that, and i must say that you better read englisch than
i do. But most of the time I do understand what they write.
And i saw 2 pages whit costumers who have problems on the same item.
Well if you say that i am wrong,O.K No hard feelings.
I come here for learn from other people,and its a good feeling that here are
people,who understand that i have a problemm whit the englisch languess.
In fact we are one BIG AVAST Family,and there is no hate.
I am olso on other Forums write,in me own languess,and O Boy whit the knife
on the table,and thats not so easy!!!!
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: justin1278 on November 18, 2006, 04:48:04 PM
Hello,

I switched back to avast! until Comodo Antivirus goes gold (avast! is still a great antivirus :)) but Comodo will integrate HIPS in an antivirus product which avast! has not done.

Anyway I am running avast! along with Comodo 2.3.6.81 fine, and so are my other family members. I have had no issues.

If you are having issues you can grab information and download the latest Comodo Firewall beta version HERE (http://forums.comodo.com/index.php/topic,3934.msg29883.html#msg29883) the new beta (Comodo Firewall 2.4.0.89) adds Buffer Overflow attack protection, and many other nice features. I personally cannot comment on the new beta because I have not yet tried it. It also is available in different languages, and more languages are being added.
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: LaFemmeMichele on November 18, 2006, 04:49:39 PM
Quote
Strange... Comodo is working perfectly with avast, IE, Firefox and so on  ::) ???

Tech take a look at the 1st post in this thread! There's a link to what became a 9 page thread on Comodo re Avast/Comodo conflict issue. You are one of the lucky ones. As yet there's no resolution. I'm curious what the asymptomatic percentage of Avast?Comodo persons is?

PS & Off topic because you are un "PM" able: Did you ever read my post in which I revealed I'd given your Windows fix to Microsoft? I've always wondered. -M
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: LaFemmeMichele on November 18, 2006, 04:59:53 PM


Quote
If you are having issues you can grab information and download the latest Comodo Firewall beta version HERE (http://forums.comodo.com/index.php/topic,3934.msg29883.html#msg29883) the new beta (Comodo Firewall 2.4.0.89) adds Buffer Overflow attack protection, and many other nice features. I personally cannot comment on the new beta because I have not yet tried it. It also is available in different languages, and more languages are being added.

Justin,
   Thanks for posting. Do you have a clue as to the availability of a stable final release, rather than beta?
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: Bluesman on November 18, 2006, 05:13:30 PM
Strange... Comodo is working perfectly with avast, IE, Firefox and so on  ::) ???

Same here, no problem at all!

But I hope Comodo will fix the problems that some Avast-users have.

Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: LaFemmeMichele on November 18, 2006, 05:14:28 PM
Re: the availability of a stable final release, rather than beta?

I've just had a look! I find this beta version with multiple known issues to be an odd solution!

Isn't the point of a resolution in this case a matter of becoming "issue-free"?
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: DavidR on November 18, 2006, 05:55:47 PM
I switched back to avast! until Comodo Antivirus goes gold (avast! is still a great antivirus :)) but Comodo will integrate HIPS in an antivirus product which avast! has not done.

Anyway I am running avast! along with Comodo 2.3.6.81 fine, and so are my other family members. I have had no issues.

Before you jump ship again ;D sorry couldn't resist it, I suggest you wait and see what avast version 5 brings as I believe there is some behavioural functionality which could fall into the general categorisation of HIPS. I can't recall the details, but I suggest do a forum search for avast version 5.
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: Cactusjack on November 18, 2006, 07:55:09 PM
Cactus Jack,
   My friend you may be in luck! They are working on multilingual releases over there! -M
I AM LUCKY!!! I Have a GirlFriend.   When is the Wedding?
This is a joke LaFemmeMichelle,and you know it,sorry.
But we can talk in me own languess,and then?
People of small Countrys must talk Englisch. Otherwhise you have a problemm.
And people of me country are easy whit this item.But you must ask this on people
from France,Italy.Spain,No they do not so easy passing on.
I Know this from travelling etc. So being glad that this guy try englisch write!
And do not mention it.
CACTUS.J
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: LaFemmeMichele on November 18, 2006, 08:12:22 PM
Cactus My Friend,
   
   The only language I'm fluent in is English. I can only begin to imagine the added challenges of typing & deciphering techno speak that you have conquered--well I might add! I rely on mime when attempting to communicate in another language--I'd be in big trouble online.  :)
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: justin1278 on November 18, 2006, 09:40:19 PM
Re: the availability of a stable final release, rather than beta?

I've just had a look! I find this beta version with multiple known issues to be an odd solution!

Isn't the point of a resolution in this case a matter of becoming "issue-free"?

Hello,

The program I suggested IS a beta, beta means un-finished and can have bugs in it, however I suggested this beta as I thought you would like to see if it would solve your current issue, I guess this is not the case.

Before you jump ship again ;D sorry couldn't resist it, I suggest you wait and see what avast version 5 brings as I believe there is some behavioural functionality which could fall into the general categorisation of HIPS. I can't recall the details, but I suggest do a forum search for avast version 5.

No problem DavidR :D, I will promise you this, I will stay with avast! until Comodo is proven to be a better solution, however I 100% believe that Comodo Antivirus will surpass avast! just like their firewall surpassed all of the others :), but until that time comes I will stick with avast! because it is a proven solution ;).
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: LaFemmeMichele on November 18, 2006, 10:03:06 PM
Justin,

   I didn't install Comodo after reading the problems Avast users were having on your  forum. So even you must agree your offer of a beta release as a solution isn't viable. 
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: Lisandro on November 18, 2006, 11:11:02 PM
I didn't install Comodo after reading the problems Avast users were having on your forum.
For God sake... which problems? I have none... we can address the most of them so...

Comodo is not a beta  :P
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: Tarq57 on November 19, 2006, 01:17:25 AM
For what it's worth, I installed Comodo 2.3.6.81 weeks ago, shortly after it was released, and have had no problems with it's interaction with any other program, Avast home included.
I'm one of the lucky ones, too, then. (Maybe we're in a majority?)
The only shields not running (disabled) are instant messaging and outlook.
XP home SP2.
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: justin1278 on November 19, 2006, 01:22:12 AM
Justin,

   I didn't install Comodo after reading the problems Avast users were having on your  forum. So even you must agree your offer of a beta release as a solution isn't viable. 

LaFemmeMichele,

I am having no problems with avast! and the current Comodo Firewall, but since others are I suggested you try the new beta version to see if it resolves the issue (because I assumed you were having these issues) however since you don't even have Comodo installed and are not willing to test the beta to try and help resolve some conflict some users are getting, I cannot help you any further.
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: LaFemmeMichele on November 19, 2006, 01:26:55 AM
Tarq,
   Thanks! So what do you think? Maybe the odds would be in my favor! Might as well give it a try. Wonder how well does CPF uninstalls? :)


Justin,
    Justin, Justin! I think it best that the Avast members experiencing the problems decide on an individual basis whether or not they'd like to try a beta version as a possible solution, don't you agree?
    I believe it wiser to start with the stable release, in light of the fact not all Avast/Comodo users are the having problems.
   

     
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: Lisandro on November 19, 2006, 01:30:04 AM
I'm one of the lucky ones, too, then. (Maybe we're in a majority?)
For sure... no problems here too  8)

How well does CPF uninstall?
No trouble.
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: Tarq57 on November 19, 2006, 01:48:12 AM
Sorry La Femme Michele, never had reason to uninstall it.. I notice the thread at the comodo forum hasn't been addressed in a week, can't imagine it's resolved itself or fizzled out, though.
I'm using 2.3.6.81. If you choose to install the Beta (not recommending that BTW) can you let us know how it goes, please. In fact, let us know whatever version you use.
"tis a curious problem reported, but I gathered it's about 7 people reporting it. (Hard to keep track) plus a couple more able to reproduce it. So maybe 9 out of how many hundreds? Or maybe thousands?
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: _NA_ on November 19, 2006, 04:19:07 PM
I observed that a lot of people rather ditch the products then report and troubleshoot…

Then I can imagine many of those who are willing to report are discouraged when they see that the forums are members-only… And those who searches around for solutions probably have seen the couple of mentioned workarounds posted, and used instead of wasting anymore of their time…

And as for e-mails sent, you can’t say really what goes on there, but I can come up with couple of reasons why someone would be reluctant to report through e-mail even…

 ;)
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: _NA_ on November 19, 2006, 04:24:05 PM
This is just a personal opinion but I feel it to be pathetic to see bug-fixes to be released in betas for security products, if a bug-fix is out there the developer should make it available shortly afterwards instead of waiting months for a new beta release…
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: Lisandro on November 19, 2006, 06:11:17 PM
This is just a personal opinion but I feel it to be pathetic to see bug-fixes to be released in betas for security products, if a bug-fix is out there the developer should make it available shortly afterwards instead of waiting months for a new beta release…
Fully agree... if the developer knows how to fix it  ;)
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: LaFemmeMichele on November 22, 2006, 07:51:38 PM
Report back: I downloaded & installed Comodo (the stable release 2.3.6). I can see out IE 7 & FF. I'm one of the lucky ones it appears.

It seemed evident that there was no fix on its way & the Avast nonproblemic feedback I received here convinced me it was worth a try. Thank you Avast community.

I think the Avast members with the Comodo difficulties had to do one of two things:
   Change their AV
   Change their FW

I suspect the ratio of those with difficulties is significantly higher than what we see reported on the boards. Phantom's points are valid. People don't have time to screw around. They need Security & Internet access!

I hope Comodo at some point in time actually implements a fix for its bugs, so that all users have the option to use Avast & Comodo.
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: Bluesman on November 22, 2006, 10:43:39 PM
This is just a personal opinion but I feel it to be pathetic to see bug-fixes to be released in betas for security products, if a bug-fix is out there the developer should make it available shortly afterwards instead of waiting months for a new beta release…
I agree, but in my humble opinion...if there isn't a BIG bug, it sure can wait to the beta-release. But big bugs should be fixed asap...if the developer knows how to fix it...as Tech said. Sometimes fixing a bug can be a long process, and not just "hit the red button, and the bug is gone" ;)
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: Bluesman on November 22, 2006, 10:48:15 PM
I hope Comodo at some point in time actually implements a fix for its bugs,
I agree...and I am sure the Comodo Team want a bugfree product...so I'm sure they work as hard as they can to fix every bug they see :)
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: LaFemmeMichele on November 24, 2006, 11:47:06 AM
Hey I really like this firewall!   :D

If you are considering trialling it, go for it!

In no way do I wish to diminish those of you who've been put through BIG changes.
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: Alexo on January 20, 2007, 03:02:56 PM
Comodo 2.4 is out
http://forums.comodo.com/index.php/topic,5464.0.html
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: Lisandro on January 20, 2007, 05:18:52 PM
Since earlier beta versions after 2.3.6 these problems were already solved.
No troubles with the last, stable, Comodo Firewall Pro 2.4.16.174  :)
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: cvsa on January 20, 2007, 10:27:03 PM
exept... that i can't install it  >:( :P : the wizard freezes while "configurating comodo", after copyiing files.... so the installation never ends.... and no way to remove comodo... exept restoring the system... :( too bad
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: LaFemmeMichele on January 21, 2007, 11:29:02 AM
Cvsa,

  Today might not have been an ideal time to attempt an install. Comodo just released a new version that came to me through an automatic update. Their servers must have been busy-- I ok'd the update, watched for a bit, bathed, blew dry all my hair, went to dinner...  hours elapsed before completion!

  Their forum is very helpful. Give it another try.
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: cvsa on January 22, 2007, 10:00:23 AM
OK fixed it : i had to uninstall jetico before  :-[ (and not only close it).... shame on me !
Title: Re: Comodo Not Playing Nicely
Post by: Lisandro on January 22, 2007, 01:18:59 PM
OK fixed it : i had to uninstall jetico before
Another case for the theory: disable is not enough  :)