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Title: firewall not on
Post by: zeb on December 08, 2006, 04:47:43 PM
HI, new here. I have a question.
I have the 4.7 home edition.
I am getting a windows security alert saying  my firewall is turned off.
when i go to where I need to be to turn it on,
it wont let me click the on button.
Is this the way its supposed to be?
and if not, what do i do? TIA!
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: DavidR on December 08, 2006, 04:51:24 PM
Well avast isn't a firewall and doesn't have any interaction with your firewall or windows security center to be able to trun your firewall off.

What is your firewall ?
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: zeb on December 08, 2006, 05:00:30 PM
please forgive me, i'm not really computer smart!
I believe its a windows firewall,
or where do i go to find out
what my firewall is?
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: zeb on December 08, 2006, 05:07:19 PM
when i click on enable now to turn on windows firewall it says-
"were sorry, security center could not turn on windows firewall,
to try to turn it on yourself go to control panel,click general tab
select on and click ok"
but when i try and do that the "on" button is unclickable.
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: zeb on December 08, 2006, 05:17:39 PM
I also saw this-
"windows firewall is turned off,your network
administrator is using group policy to control these setting"

okay, what is group policy and who is my network administrator???

Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: zeb on December 08, 2006, 05:24:33 PM
also found under the advance tab, it says to restore all firewall settings to a default state, click restore defaults.
Should i try that?
sorry about all these posts but this worries me.
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: DavidR on December 08, 2006, 05:43:10 PM
Open the Control Panel and look for the Windows Firewall and double click the icon and check the On (Recommended) radio button and click OK.

To open Control Panel, click Windows Start and then click Control Panel.
If your computer is set up in Classic view using the more familiar Start menu, click Start, point to Settings, and then click Control Panel.

Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: zeb on December 08, 2006, 05:51:39 PM
I have been trying that,
but all the buttons (on, off, or allow exceptions)
are all not clickable, wont let me click them.

At the top it says "for your security, some settings are controlled by group policy"

apparently this is one of them!
what or who is group policy?
thank you
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: Lisandro on December 08, 2006, 05:53:31 PM
what is group policy and who is my network administrator???
Group policy is a way that Windows controls the type of computer users. For instance, there are System, Administrator, Common Users.
Are you the ONLY one user of this computer or, when you logon, there are other users?
Are you the Administrator of the computer or a common user (technically speaking)?
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: zeb on December 08, 2006, 06:01:42 PM
I believe i am the only user,
there are no other user that come up.
in fact, that whole screen doesnt even come up anymore where i would have to click on my name to log on.
i just turn my puter on, connect to the internet and thats it.

I'm thinking i am the administrator, not sure.
like i said that whole user name thing to log on, doesnt even come up anymore.
is there a way to find out?
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: zeb on December 08, 2006, 06:03:24 PM
just checked user accounts-YES i am the administrator.
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: Lisandro on December 08, 2006, 06:20:47 PM
is there a way to find out?
Windows Start Buttom > click Control Panel > User accounts.
Then you can see your name and if you're the Administrator or not.

I suggest you download, install and use WinSnap. A screenshot application that allows you to post pictures...
http://www.ntwind.com/

I picture will talk better than 1000 words.
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: zeb on December 08, 2006, 06:31:53 PM
Yes, I am the administrator!
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: Lisandro on December 08, 2006, 06:52:36 PM
Yes, I am the administrator!
Start Menu > Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Services
Check the state of the Firewall service. Or export the services list ( and post here): Action > Export list.
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: zeb on December 08, 2006, 07:14:23 PM
Name   Description   Status     Startup Type   Log On As
Alerter   Notifies selected users and computers of administrative alerts. If the service is stopped, programs that use administrative alerts will not receive them. If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail to start.      Disabled   Local Service
Application Layer Gateway Service   Provides support for 3rd party protocol plug-ins for Internet Connection Sharing and the Windows Firewall.      Manual   Local Service
Application Management   Provides software installation services such as Assign, Publish, and Remove.      Manual   Local System
Automatic Updates   Enables the download and installation of Windows updates. If this service is disabled, this computer will not be able to use the Automatic Updates feature or the Windows Update Web site.   Started   Automatic   Local System
avast! Antivirus   Manages and implements avast! antivirus services for this computer. This includes the resident protection, the virus chest and the scheduler.   Started   Automatic   Local System
avast! iAVS4 Control Service   Provides automatic updating for the avast! antivirus.   Started   Automatic   Local System
avast! Mail Scanner   Implements mail scanning for avast! antivirus.   Started   Manual   Local System
avast! Web Scanner   Implements web (HTTP) scanning for avast! antivirus.   Started   Manual   Local System
Background Intelligent Transfer Service   Transfers data between clients and servers in the background. If BITS is disabled, features such as Windows Update will not work correctly.   Started   Automatic   Local System
ClipBook   Enables ClipBook Viewer to store information and share it with remote computers. If the service is stopped, ClipBook Viewer will not be able to share information with remote computers. If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail to start.      Disabled   Local System
COM+ Event System   Supports System Event Notification Service (SENS), which provides automatic distribution of events to subscribing Component Object Model (COM) components. If the service is stopped, SENS will close and will not be able to provide logon and logoff notifications. If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail to start.   Started   Manual   Local System
COM+ System Application   Manages the configuration and tracking of Component Object Model (COM)+-based components. If the service is stopped, most COM+-based components will not function properly. If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail to start.      Manual   Local System
Computer Browser   Maintains an updated list of computers on the network and supplies this list to computers designated as browsers. If this service is stopped, this list will not be updated or maintained. If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail to start.   Started   Automatic   Local System
Cryptographic Services   Provides three management services: Catalog Database Service, which confirms the signatures of Windows files; Protected Root Service, which adds and removes Trusted Root Certification Authority certificates from this computer; and Key Service, which helps enroll this computer for certificates. If this service is stopped, these management services will not function properly. If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail to start.   Started   Automatic   Local System
DCOM Server Process Launcher   Provides launch functionality for DCOM services.   Started   Automatic   Local System
DHCP Client   Manages network configuration by registering and updating IP addresses and DNS names.   Started   Automatic   Local System
Distributed Link Tracking Client   Maintains links between NTFS files within a computer or across computers in a network domain.   Started   Automatic   Local System
Distributed Transaction Coordinator   Coordinates transactions that span multiple resource managers, such as databases, message queues, and file systems. If this service is stopped, these transactions will not occur. If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail to start.       Manual   Network Service
DNS Client   Resolves and caches Domain Name System (DNS) names for this computer. If this service is stopped, this computer will not be able to resolve DNS names and locate Active Directory domain controllers. If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail to start.   Started   Automatic   Network Service
Error Reporting Service   Allows error reporting for services and applictions running in non-standard environments.   Started   Automatic   Local System
Event Log   Enables event log messages issued by Windows-based programs and components to be viewed in Event Viewer. This service cannot be stopped.   Started   Automatic   Local System
Fast User Switching Compatibility   Provides management for applications that require assistance in a multiple user environment.   Started   Manual   Local System
Help and Support   Enables Help and Support Center to run on this computer. If this service is stopped, Help and Support Center will be unavailable. If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail to start.   Started   Automatic   Local System
HTTP SSL   This service implements the secure hypertext transfer protocol (HTTPS) for the HTTP service,  using the Secure Socket Layer (SSL).  If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail to start.      Manual   Local System
Human Interface Device Access   Enables generic input access to Human Interface Devices (HID), which activates and maintains the use of predefined hot buttons on keyboards, remote controls, and other multimedia devices. If this service is stopped, hot buttons controlled by this service will no longer function. If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail to start.      Disabled   Local


Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: zeb on December 08, 2006, 07:14:57 PM
System
IMAPI CD-Burning COM Service   Manages CD recording using Image Mastering Applications Programming Interface (IMAPI). If this service is stopped, this computer will be unable to record CDs. If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail to start.      Manual   Local System
Indexing Service   Indexes contents and properties of files on local and remote computers; provides rapid access to files through flexible querying language.      Manual   Local System
IPSEC Services   Manages IP security policy and starts the ISAKMP/Oakley (IKE) and the IP security driver.   Started   Automatic   Local System
LexBce Server      Started   Automatic   Local System
Logical Disk Manager   Detects and monitors new hard disk drives and sends disk volume information to Logical Disk Manager Administrative Service for configuration. If this service is stopped, dynamic disk status and configuration information may become out of date. If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail to start.      Manual   Local System
Logical Disk Manager Administrative Service   Configures hard disk drives and volumes. The service only runs for configuration processes and then stops.      Manual   Local System
Messenger   Transmits net send and Alerter service messages between clients and servers. This service is not related to Windows Messenger. If this service is stopped, Alerter messages will not be transmitted. If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail to start.      Disabled   Local System
MS Software Shadow Copy Provider   Manages software-based volume shadow copies taken by the Volume Shadow Copy service. If this service is stopped, software-based volume shadow copies cannot be managed. If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail to start.      Manual   Local System
Net Logon   Supports pass-through authentication of account logon events for computers in a domain.      Manual   Local System
NetMeeting Remote Desktop Sharing   Enables an authorized user to access this computer remotely by using NetMeeting over a corporate intranet. If this service is stopped, remote desktop sharing will be unavailable. If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail to start.      Manual   Local System
Netropa NHK Server      Started   Automatic   Local System
Network Connections   Manages objects in the Network and Dial-Up Connections folder, in which you can view both local area network and remote connections.   Started   Manual   Local System
Network DDE   Provides network transport and security for Dynamic Data Exchange (DDE) for programs running on the same computer or on different computers. If this service is stopped, DDE transport and security will be unavailable. If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail to start.      Disabled   Local System
Network DDE DSDM   Manages Dynamic Data Exchange (DDE) network shares. If this service is stopped, DDE network shares will be unavailable. If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail to start.       Disabled   Local System
Network Location Awareness (NLA)   Collects and stores network configuration and location information, and notifies applications when this information changes.   Started   Manual   Local System
Network Provisioning Service   Manages XML configuration files on a domain basis for automatic network provisioning.      Manual   Local System
NT LM Security Support Provider   Provides security to remote procedure call (RPC) programs that use transports other than named pipes.      Manual   Local System
Performance Logs and Alerts   Collects performance data from local or remote computers based on preconfigured schedule parameters, then writes the data to a log or triggers an alert. If this service is stopped, performance information will not be collected. If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail to start.      Manual   Network Service
Plug and Play   Enables a computer to recognize and adapt to hardware changes with little or no user input. Stopping or disabling this service will result in system instability.   Started   Automatic   Local System
Portable Media Serial Number Service   Retrieves the serial number of any portable media player connected to this computer. If this service is stopped, protected content might not be down loaded to the device.      Manual   Local System
Print Spooler   Loads files to memory for later printing.   Started   Automatic   Local System
Protected Storage   Provides protected storage for sensitive data, such as private keys, to prevent access by unauthorized services, processes, or users.   Started   Automatic   Local System
QoS RSVP   Provides network signaling and local traffic control setup functionality for QoS-aware programs and control applets.      Manual   Local System
Remote Access Auto Connection Manager   Creates a connection to a remote network whenever a program references a remote DNS or NetBIOS name or address.      Manual   Local System
Remote Access Connection Manager   Creates a network connection.   Started   Manual   Local System
Remote Desktop Help Session Manager   Manages and controls Remote Assistance. If this service is stopped, Remote Assistance will be unavailable. Before stopping this service, see the Dependencies tab of the Properties dialog box.      Manual   Local System
Remote Procedure Call (RPC)   Provides the endpoint mapper and other miscellaneous RPC services.   Started   Automatic   Network Service
Remote Procedure Call (RPC) Locator   Manages the RPC name service database.      Manual   Network Service
Removable Storage         Manual   Local System
Routing and Remote Access   Offers routing services to businesses in local area and wide area network environments.      Disabled   Local System
Secondary Logon   Enables starting processes under alternate credentials. If this service is stopped, this type of logon access will be unavailable. If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail to start.   Started   Automatic   Local System
Security Accounts Manager   Stores security information for local user accounts.   Started   Automatic   Local System
Security Center   Monitors system security settings and configurations.   Started   Automatic   Local System
Server   Supports file, print, and named-pipe sharing over the network for this computer. If this service is stopped, these functions will be unavailable. If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail to start.   Started   Automatic   Local System
Shell Hardware Detection   Provides notifications for AutoPlay hardware events.   Started   Automatic   Local System
Smart Card   Manages access to smart cards read by this computer. If this service is stopped, this computer will be unable to read smart cards. If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail to start.      Manual   Local Service
SSDP Discovery Service   Enables discovery of UPnP devices on your home network.   Started   Manual   Local Service
System Event Notification   Tracks system events such as Windows logon, network, and power events.  Notifies COM+ Event System subscribers of these events.   Started   Automatic   Local System
System Restore Service   Performs system restore functions. To stop service, turn off System Restore from the System Restore tab in My Computer->Properties   Started   Automatic   Local System
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: zeb on December 08, 2006, 07:16:39 PM
sorry, i had to do that in 2 posts.
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: MrRAlan on December 08, 2006, 08:17:40 PM
Are you using Windows XP SP2?  If you are still on SP1 I would suggest upgrading to SP2.
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: Lisandro on December 08, 2006, 08:46:08 PM
sorry, i had to do that in 2 posts.
Sorry, I can't read the posts... all the columns are messed... I'll try to look...
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: zeb on December 08, 2006, 08:47:40 PM
Is sp2 the one that came out about 2 1/2 yrs ago or so?
if yes, than i do have sp2
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: Lisandro on December 08, 2006, 08:54:41 PM
Are you using Windows XP SP2?  If you are still on SP1 I would suggest upgrading to SP2.
Oopss... Without SP2 you're without a firewall...  :o
Update your Windows www.windowsupdate.com  :)
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: zeb on December 08, 2006, 11:00:27 PM
When i went to that link, it tells me-
Your computer has already been upgraded to Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2).
I am wondering if i should just click on that restore default button, i mentioned earlier.
sorry to be a pain in the butt!
and I do appreciate all your help!
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: Lisandro on December 08, 2006, 11:31:03 PM
I suggest you download, install and use WinSnap. A screenshot application that allows you to post pictures...
http://www.ntwind.com/
I picture will talk better than 1000 words.
Try this please...
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: zeb on December 08, 2006, 11:53:51 PM
Hi, just downloaded that.
I have to leave for a few hours.
I will check back later, Thank you!
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: zeb on December 09, 2006, 12:17:59 PM
How do you show a screen shot here?
do you have to upload it to a pic hosting site?
I see there are some free firewalls out there,
think i should go ahead and download one and just
forget about trying to get my windows firewall to work?
can anybody recommend one? Thanks
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: MrRAlan on December 09, 2006, 11:36:56 PM
Look in your services.  You are looking for Windows Firewall/Internet Connection Sharing (ICS).  Make sure this is set for automatic.  If not, set it to automatic and then Start the service or reboot the PC.  Then try your firewall.
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: DavidR on December 10, 2006, 12:37:09 AM
How do you show a screen shot here?
do you have to upload it to a pic hosting site?
I see there are some free firewalls out there,
think i should go ahead and download one and just
forget about trying to get my windows firewall to work?
can anybody recommend one? Thanks

When you post at the bottom of the input text box you will see Additional Options. Click the browse button and find the saved screenshot and attach it. Not there are only limited image types and please crop any images to the relevant part and dont post a complete screenshot which could be massive in both size, area and file size (KB).

- Zone Alarm free http://www.zonelabs.com works fine with avast and has a reasonably friendly user interface. There are others, Comodo, Sunbelt Kerio, Jetico, etc.
See some firewall tests for comparison, some are freeware but many are paid for versions http://www.firewallleaktester.com/tests.php. Also see http://www.thefreecountry.com/security/firewalls.shtml
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: zeb on December 10, 2006, 05:24:16 AM
Where do i go to find my services?
thanks
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: Lisandro on December 10, 2006, 02:12:22 PM
How do you show a screen shot here?
do you have to upload it to a pic hosting site?
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=8982.0
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: Lisandro on December 10, 2006, 02:13:17 PM
Where do i go to find my services?
Start Menu > Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Services
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: zeb on December 10, 2006, 02:27:46 PM
says it was started and automatic.
i clicked on restart but nothing changed.
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: Lisandro on December 10, 2006, 02:33:55 PM
says it was started and automatic.
i clicked on restart but nothing changed.
Please, go Start Menu > Control Panel > Firewall
and post a screenshot here. Thanks.
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: zeb on December 10, 2006, 02:39:29 PM
hope this works right!

Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: zeb on December 10, 2006, 02:41:09 PM
and when i go to click on the on button or any buttons there...they are not clickable (if you know what i mean)
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: Lisandro on December 10, 2006, 02:51:31 PM
and when i go to click on the on button or any buttons there...they are not clickable (if you know what i mean)
Well, here we go:

1. For the greyed out buttoms, are you sure you're logged as an administrator? Please, go Start Menu > Control Panel > User accounts and post a screenshot here. Thanks.

2. Can you post a screenshot of your Windows Security Center with all Firewall settings opened options (click on the down arrow to show the firewall info)? Start Menu > Control Panel > Security Center.
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: zeb on December 10, 2006, 03:04:32 PM
security shot
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: zeb on December 10, 2006, 03:06:34 PM
user account-
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: Lisandro on December 10, 2006, 03:28:50 PM
Zeb, if you log as Tracy you're the administrator.
So, there is a problem because WSC is not detecting 'all' the firewalls on your computer.
Did you install any in the past? Like Norton Internet Suite or McAfee Suites... or any other firewall, like ZoneAlarm?
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: zeb on December 10, 2006, 03:32:35 PM
the computer came with Norton antivirus, it expired once and i renewed,
dont remember if it was "internet suite" that i had.
but after that one expired,
I just went with the Avast
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: zeb on December 10, 2006, 03:36:24 PM
i just checked my installed programs,
there is no norton or any other firewalls or anti virus programs, except Avast
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: Lisandro on December 10, 2006, 03:45:11 PM
Zeb, please, follow this again:
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=23457.msg193534#msg193534
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: zeb on December 10, 2006, 03:55:56 PM
I cant or dont know where to find  c:\windows\system32\wbem\repository
when i searched in the start menu it said -
not an valid file
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: DavidR on December 10, 2006, 04:07:30 PM
Use windows explorer and navigate to that folder.
C:\ drive
Windows folder
System32 sub folder
Wbem sub folder
Repository.
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: zeb on December 10, 2006, 04:17:11 PM
okay thanks, i am the point where i need to reboot,
but before i do...i wanted to tell you I just remembered at one time i had symantec-it is not showing up in mt installed programs, but when i did a search for symantec in files, 15 things came up should i delete all these or not worry about them for now?
thanks so much for your help!!!
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: zeb on December 10, 2006, 04:19:51 PM
never mind that, when i click on them all,
my only option is to undo delete,
guess they sre already deleted.
i will reboot now.
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: zeb on December 10, 2006, 04:35:43 PM
darn!
rebooted twice and nothing has changed :(

Do i need to go back to services and restart the things i stopped?
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: zeb on December 10, 2006, 04:40:58 PM
i see they restarted all by themselves
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: Lisandro on December 10, 2006, 07:31:28 PM
but when i did a search for symantec in files, 15 things came up should i delete all these or not worry about them for now?

1) Remove NAV through Add/Remove programs from Control Panel. Boot. (if you have any Symantec product yet: LiveRegistration, LiveUpdate, etc.).
2) Use Symantec removal tool following the three steps defined in the SymNRT (http://download.betanews.com/download/1125124391/Norton_Removal_tool.exe) tool info or here (http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039?Open&src=&docid=2001092114452606&nsf=nav.nsf&view=docid&dtype=&prod=&ver=&osv=&osv_lvl=).
3) Boot.
4) Install avast! Boot.
5) See what you get.

Full SymNRT info:
1. Download and save these three files to the Windows desktop:
   a) ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/english_us_canada/linked_files/tsgen/MSIFIX.bat
   b) ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/english_us_canada/linked_files/tsgen/SymNRT.exe
   c) ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/english_us_canada/linked_files/tsgen/SYMMSICLEANUP.reg

2. Run the three files that you just downloaded
   a) On the Windows desktop, double-click the MSIFIX icon.
      Click Run.
      A black window may appear very briefly.
   b) On the Windows desktop, double-click the SymNRT icon.
      Click Run.
      Click Next.
      Click I accept the License Agreement, and click Next.
      Type the letters and numbers that you see in the white box, and then click Next.
      Click Yes or OK at each prompt.
      You may need to click more than once. Your computer may be restarted for you more than once.
      You may be asked to repeat some steps after the computer restarts.
   c) On the Windows desktop, double-click the SYMMSICLEANUP icon.
      Click Run, and then click Yes.
      Click OK.

3. Boot.
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: zeb on December 10, 2006, 11:21:40 PM

1) Remove NAV through Add/Remove programs from Control Panel. Boot. (if you have any Symantec product yet: LiveRegistration, LiveUpdate, etc.).
2) Use Symantec removal tool following the three steps defined in the SymNRT (http://download.betanews.com/download/1125124391/Norton_Removal_tool.exe) tool info or here (http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039?Open&src=&docid=2001092114452606&nsf=nav.nsf&view=docid&dtype=&prod=&ver=&osv=&osv_lvl=).
3) Boot.
4) Install avast! Boot.
5) See what you get.


where you wrote "install Avast" was i supposed to remove it first and then download it again?
if yes, is this before or after i run those 3 files?
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: Lisandro on December 11, 2006, 01:29:44 AM
where you wrote "install Avast" was i supposed to remove it first and then download it again?
if yes, is this before or after i run those 3 files?
Well, you don't have to uninstall avast...
Remove Norton will work with or without avast. So you can run the three files now or whenever you want.
You can download a new avast setup file and install it, or just update your installation through the Internet (update program).
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: zeb on December 11, 2006, 02:47:02 AM
Well, i have done all the above and nothing has changed.
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: Lisandro on December 11, 2006, 02:52:02 AM
Let's try the last resort...

1. Uninstall avast from Control Panel first
2. Boot
3. Use Avast Uninstall (http://www.avast.com/eng/avast-uninstall-utility.html) for complete uninstallation
4. Boot
5. Install again by this command on the folder you've donwload and save the install file: setupeng.exe /forceinstall
    Where setupeng.exe is the name of the executable
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: MrRAlan on December 11, 2006, 10:11:44 PM
Sorry if I missed this in previous posts...

Are you running XP home or professional?

Did you get this computer new or from a friend?  I'm wondering if group policy was previously applied to the PC before you recieved it.
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: zeb on December 11, 2006, 11:24:55 PM
I tried the last resort and still nothing has changed.
I am running XP home.
I bought it new from Dell.
I seemed to notice the security balloon start popping up
when I first downloaded Avast,
I just assumed it was because of that and not  worry about it.
but then i came here to check.

So now I am wondering if i should just download a firewall.
Is that complicated?
because I am not really computer smart.
THANK YOU all for your help!
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: zeb on December 12, 2006, 08:34:41 PM
Just bumping this up,
for any advice before i download a firewall. Thanks
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: DavidR on December 12, 2006, 09:47:45 PM
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I seemed to notice the security balloon start popping up
when I first downloaded Avast,
Sorry I haven't reread the whole thread but what security balloon, do you mean the avast Alert with accompanying ear splitting audio alarm ?

Installing a firewall is no different to installing a program, download the setup file and execute it.

- Zone Alarm free http://www.zonelabs.com works fine with avast and has a reasonably friendly user interface. If you chose Zone Alarm free you will be asked a compatibility question, answer NO.

There are others, Sunbelt Kerio, Jetico, etc.
See some firewall tests for comparison, some are freeware but many are paid for versions http://www.firewallleaktester.com/tests.php. Also see http://www.thefreecountry.com/security/firewalls.shtml
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: zeb on December 12, 2006, 11:08:36 PM
Hi,
no, its the red windows security alert icon, that says I have no firewall on.
Thanks, I'll take a look at the firewalls.
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: Lisandro on December 12, 2006, 11:18:53 PM
no, its the red windows security alert icon, that says I have no firewall on.
But, do you have a firewall?

Zeb, Windows Security Center does not give you ANY protection. It's just a monitor that say what other products are protecting you.
Don't worry that much. A lot of users include disable WSC.
You need a firewall and you need an antivirus. If you have them, cool  :)
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: zeb on December 13, 2006, 12:51:43 AM
Yes but what about my screen shot back on page 2 or so.
it shows my firewall is off.
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: alanrf on December 13, 2006, 09:07:12 AM
Team -

is it not possible that zeb has been the victim of a trojan that has set up a group policy to prevent the turning on of the Windows built in firewall in an effort to keep the system vulnerable?

Any of our contributors familiar with the use of group policy in XP - it seems to be a less than well known area?

Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: zeb on December 13, 2006, 12:33:32 PM
Oh my gosh! sure hope not.
if this is the case,
would downloading a new firewall still protect me?
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: DavidR on December 13, 2006, 01:14:15 PM
Because you have an issue with XP firewall not matter what the cause you shouldn't delay in downloading and installing another firewall. Even if you had no problem with XP's firewall it doesn't provide outbound protection and we would recommend that got a third party firewall.

@ alanrf
The only trojan/malware relating to XP's firewall that I have heard of is by changing registry entries to open a route into the system bypassing the XP firewall. I haven't heard of anything using Group Policy to disable it and by disabling it that would draw attention to the problem, which wouldn't be desirable.
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: zeb on December 14, 2006, 12:24:31 AM
well thank you all for your help!
I did download the zone alarm firewall.
so far it says-
278 intrusions have been blocked,
23 have been high rated.

does that sound like alot? and
what would the intrusions have been?
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: Lisandro on December 14, 2006, 12:51:07 AM
does that sound like alot?
In fact, not.

what would the intrusions have been?
From tentatives of knowing your IP to the ones who try to know who you are, etc.
To personal computers, very little of the hacking is tryed. Hackers want to get control of large networks, companies and famous sites, etc.
Of course, they could 'test' and 'try' on your computer... but very unprobable  :)
Title: Re: firewall not on
Post by: DavidR on December 14, 2006, 01:01:02 AM
It sounds like you should switch off the warnings if they are on. Yes that isn't unusual there are many infected systems out their trying to find other systems to infect ('port scanning' random IP addresses) or turn into zombies to send out spam or infection.

I never even look for attack detection stats in my firewall, they are history and the firewall is doing its job and blocking them. Basically it is the firewall trying to make you feel warm, fuzzy and protected. You could take the shields up check at grc.com. This checks the stealth of your system if it can't be seen it is less vulnerable to attack. Your firewall should have logs and you should be able to check them, I don't know how comprehensive these are in ZA free.

My system is very well stealthed and I don't see that kind of activity, only 8 detections today, all 'port scans' all to port 445 http://www.grc.com/port_445.htm a common attack port, which should be looked after by your firewall.